This 'Cave' is a really a 'pit'. Entrance would have been precarious in it's origin, from only the top. It is very curious for many reasons. Because of the Christian themes and extensive work involved, I think this is the work of possible one artist, though he/she may have repurposed an existing cavern. That purpose is also curious because it shows great creativity with limited literacy and artistic training. If I had opportunity to see this, I would. Like Justbod said, speculation is a lot more interesting than ultimately discovering the truth. Somethings just deserve mystery.
Climate is going to change and this is just one example 2to 3 thousand years ago this peak supported reindeer and humans who hunted them then it got cold polarized and dormant to both man and animal. And 1 to 2 thousand years from now it will once again polarize no doubt man has affected climate however if you look at the greenhouse gases the melting of permafrost at the poles are emitting 1000 times that of humans and discovery of mammal bones in the melting permafrost proves the globe has done this many many times over and will continue.
There’s probably hundreds of theories about how and why these monuments were designed and built. Possibly, many are correct to specific sites. What intrigues me is how they appear in so many diverse places, even including north America. If we could actually read their messages surely we would learn a few things.
It is the business of academics to disprove anything that doesn’t conform to their studies and/or teachings. Read: Thomas Kuhn, ‘The Structure of Scientific Revolutions ‘, the theory which applies to all institutions, organisations, and scientific activitities. “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win." – the paradigm changes.
The extensive finding of artifacts identified with Spain does indicate some sort of settlement, and not a site that was used for a couple of days or a couple of weeks. Additionally, the challenges criticising the route taken have such comments as ‘most likely’ . We wait for the paper fully describing and documentiing the finds – and the location!
Hudson bay.. and the prevalence of granite in the Canadian shield.. seems like a massive glancing impact to me..lucifer telescope at the south pole
everyone likes to diss the one with new info in any field.. social inertia isnt a thing? History reminds us that the truth require sacrifice and even then less than half tne story is told
There is no mystery to natural gases leaking from rock formations all over the planet. There are methane leaks here from ancient coal reserves. This is not new at all. In fact it can and often does escape in water wells. Sometimes the water can be lit on fire. Environmentalists blame oil &gas companies, but all types of gasses have been escaping in places forever. The largest CO2 plant in the US is less than 100miles from me. They just pipe it to a compressor and haul it out on trucks for a myriad of uses. Not the least of wich is carbonated beverages. You can not convince me it hasn't been leaking for eons. Or at least long before modern discovery. So seemingly eternal flames are not just possible, but very probable. The eternal flame at JFK's tomb is no secret, it's just piped natural gas.
Incredibly no mention of the oldest and first, the fire temples of the Zoarastrians. The eternal flame was most likely from a methane patch, which are abundantly found in the north of Iran.
I wanted to mention that here in the US there are plenty of stories coming out about botched executions by injection. Some prisoners have had to endure the process more than once, because after hours of convulsing on the gurney, they still don’t die the first time. Some states are bringing back the older more mechanical methods just because the injections are so horrible to watch.
Oh, sorry Alistair, I didn’t mean to say that the Normans were still n charge now, only they were at the time in question (Anglo-Normans perhaps, but Normans were at the top.) I will one day have my own DNA tested (I’m from England) to see which lineage I come from (I’m sure it’s not royal, but wll be interesting to see if it’s Angle, Saxon, Norman, Roman even, or whatever). Yes, the current royalty is from the German House of Hanover, then there is the Greek/Danish blood from Prince Philip who passed away this year. Unlikely to be much Norman there, but you never know, the Norsemen did tend to travel! Anyway, I will keep an eye out for further reports on the mail vest find to see what the experts find out. Thanks.
Dear Alastair. The article has been updated with the latest development, and your observations have been both included and validated by the National Museum of Ireland. Thank you.
Well in my case I have always believed in Creation it is nice to learn who you are and where someday you may get to Go not only something spectacular but, live there for all eternity.
Genesis in the beginning's fascinates me; then I read the
Book of Jubilees which laugh out loud is considered Lesser Genesis by Men.
I don't agree with that estimation this Biblical Book introduces the Reader to even more descriptive detail's than is even given in Genesis
Genesis is straight forward in The narrative of Creation some Scholars feel it is an Over view; I've never felt that way towards Genesis.
Then, I got to read the Greatest Genesis Story I kid you not Enoch 2 The Book of The Secret's of Enoch.
First Enoch quick review I first discovered Enoch while reading Genesis coincidentally there were 2 Enoch's mentioned in Genesis the first through Cain murdered of Abel his first born Son's name Enoch.
The 2nd Enoch is through Seth's Bloodline and this is The Enoch who wrote 3 Biblical Book's Enoch 2 lays out the Heaven's and the descriptive narrative of The Ancient of Day's sitting on The Throne and that is what the Entire Book of Enoch 2 covers one Iearns from The Head of Day's; How Creation came about an in this Book I AM even describes the Creation of The Angel's.
Neither Genesis or Jubilees covers that topic of The Angel's which makes all 3 Creation testimonies relevant on my mind Oh that remind's me All of The Angel's are an combination of the Atom Bomb and the H-Bomb put together.
Why does Enoch 2 The Book of Secret's of Enoch have such a profound affect on Me?
Enoch's traveling through The 10 Heaven's made me pause and think; but, arriving in God's Country what a beautiful meeting Enoch had standing in the presence of The Almighty Himself.
From there Enoch settles comfortably before the Very One who sat in the Throne and from The Creator's on Mouth comes the narrative of the Tale of Creation where we come from and The descriptive passage God lays out the story of Creation.
That's all I need I believe in Creation and I trust God's Words regarding How Life began.
Enoch 2 The Book of the Secret's of Enoch
Genesis
Jubilees
All of these are the most extraordinary Creation narratives and I believe these Creation stories.
I'm not kidding check out through Google write
Enoch 2 The Book of The Secret's of Enoch choose Search and this Biblical Text should be seen immediately.
An then follow up the search in Google with The Book of Jubilees there shouId be letter head Pseudiographia along with the entire chapter's available to be Read.
I should share with everyone that Jubilees is a combination of Genesis and The Book of Exodus this book is poignant because it answers the question of what Moses was doing those 40 Day's on Mt. Sinai.
There's a point in Exodus after chapter 20 God instructs Moses to appear before Him; so he's in The Presence of God an it is Moses who wrote Jubilees.
This is all I have to say on this Subject; so I'll end the discussion right here until next discussion Everyone Goodbye!
Are any of you Atlantis buffs aware that the ancient land of Atlantis had two separate armies of women on each side of their land that were viciously attacking them. I also discovered the likely family tree of King Atlas. Pop quiz, do you know the names of those female armies?
“There are still countries where the death penalty continues to be applied through various methods such as the lethal injection, hanging, shooting or the electric chair.”
There is a fascinating book about the origin of Noah’s Flood called by that name (Noah’s Flood). It describes the tremendous floods that occurred 7500 years ago around the Black Sea area when the Mediterranean Sea broke through the Bosporus straits and flooded the Black Sea turning it into a salt water sea. This geographical calamity fits extremely well into the narrative mentioned in this article about families having to flee quickly from a major flood that caused the Black Sea to increase dramatically in sea level in a short period of time. Those families left the Anatolia region and spread throughout the world including Europe, Middle East, and North Africa.
Always give the whole quote as it is truly relevant to today's timeline as it was back when written.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
Aliens? Are we as a civilization so pompous to believe no one came before us? No other civilization could have reached or surpassed us?
We are but a pencil mark on the earth's calendar, truly it would take a mere fifty thousand years to erase our footprint, how many others have come reached their heights and have fallen.
Daniken asked the questions but never supplied the answers, is that not for the “expert's” and if those expert's do not want to rock the boat?
Look to the 200 + ton stones in Lebanon that we cannot duplicate today, man or aliens?
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This 'Cave' is a really a 'pit'. Entrance would have been precarious in it's origin, from only the top. It is very curious for many reasons. Because of the Christian themes and extensive work involved, I think this is the work of possible one artist, though he/she may have repurposed an existing cavern. That purpose is also curious because it shows great creativity with limited literacy and artistic training. If I had opportunity to see this, I would. Like Justbod said, speculation is a lot more interesting than ultimately discovering the truth. Somethings just deserve mystery.
From all these comments, only one explanation resonates,
The Lord God creator of all has a keen sense of humor!
Climate is going to change and this is just one example 2to 3 thousand years ago this peak supported reindeer and humans who hunted them then it got cold polarized and dormant to both man and animal. And 1 to 2 thousand years from now it will once again polarize no doubt man has affected climate however if you look at the greenhouse gases the melting of permafrost at the poles are emitting 1000 times that of humans and discovery of mammal bones in the melting permafrost proves the globe has done this many many times over and will continue.
There’s probably hundreds of theories about how and why these monuments were designed and built. Possibly, many are correct to specific sites. What intrigues me is how they appear in so many diverse places, even including north America. If we could actually read their messages surely we would learn a few things.
It is the business of academics to disprove anything that doesn’t conform to their studies and/or teachings. Read: Thomas Kuhn, ‘The Structure of Scientific Revolutions ‘, the theory which applies to all institutions, organisations, and scientific activitities. “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win." – the paradigm changes.
The extensive finding of artifacts identified with Spain does indicate some sort of settlement, and not a site that was used for a couple of days or a couple of weeks. Additionally, the challenges criticising the route taken have such comments as ‘most likely’ . We wait for the paper fully describing and documentiing the finds – and the location!
I would also mention that the Chinese and Indian ancient astrology also mention this plant.
Hudson bay.. and the prevalence of granite in the Canadian shield.. seems like a massive glancing impact to me..lucifer telescope at the south pole
everyone likes to diss the one with new info in any field.. social inertia isnt a thing? History reminds us that the truth require sacrifice and even then less than half tne story is told
There is no mystery to natural gases leaking from rock formations all over the planet. There are methane leaks here from ancient coal reserves. This is not new at all. In fact it can and often does escape in water wells. Sometimes the water can be lit on fire. Environmentalists blame oil &gas companies, but all types of gasses have been escaping in places forever. The largest CO2 plant in the US is less than 100miles from me. They just pipe it to a compressor and haul it out on trucks for a myriad of uses. Not the least of wich is carbonated beverages. You can not convince me it hasn't been leaking for eons. Or at least long before modern discovery. So seemingly eternal flames are not just possible, but very probable. The eternal flame at JFK's tomb is no secret, it's just piped natural gas.
Incredibly no mention of the oldest and first, the fire temples of the Zoarastrians. The eternal flame was most likely from a methane patch, which are abundantly found in the north of Iran.
Thank you for your interesting answer, N. Randy Gordon!
Sounds like the nephilim were Neandertal and modern human crossbreeds.
I wanted to mention that here in the US there are plenty of stories coming out about botched executions by injection. Some prisoners have had to endure the process more than once, because after hours of convulsing on the gurney, they still don’t die the first time. Some states are bringing back the older more mechanical methods just because the injections are so horrible to watch.
Oh, sorry Alistair, I didn’t mean to say that the Normans were still n charge now, only they were at the time in question (Anglo-Normans perhaps, but Normans were at the top.) I will one day have my own DNA tested (I’m from England) to see which lineage I come from (I’m sure it’s not royal, but wll be interesting to see if it’s Angle, Saxon, Norman, Roman even, or whatever). Yes, the current royalty is from the German House of Hanover, then there is the Greek/Danish blood from Prince Philip who passed away this year. Unlikely to be much Norman there, but you never know, the Norsemen did tend to travel! Anyway, I will keep an eye out for further reports on the mail vest find to see what the experts find out. Thanks.
Dear Alastair. The article has been updated with the latest development, and your observations have been both included and validated by the National Museum of Ireland. Thank you.
Hi All,
Well in my case I have always believed in Creation it is nice to learn who you are and where someday you may get to Go not only something spectacular but, live there for all eternity.
Genesis in the beginning's fascinates me; then I read the
Book of Jubilees which laugh out loud is considered Lesser Genesis by Men.
I don't agree with that estimation this Biblical Book introduces the Reader to even more descriptive detail's than is even given in Genesis
Genesis is straight forward in The narrative of Creation some Scholars feel it is an Over view; I've never felt that way towards Genesis.
Then, I got to read the Greatest Genesis Story I kid you not Enoch 2 The Book of The Secret's of Enoch.
First Enoch quick review I first discovered Enoch while reading Genesis coincidentally there were 2 Enoch's mentioned in Genesis the first through Cain murdered of Abel his first born Son's name Enoch.
The 2nd Enoch is through Seth's Bloodline and this is The Enoch who wrote 3 Biblical Book's Enoch 2 lays out the Heaven's and the descriptive narrative of The Ancient of Day's sitting on The Throne and that is what the Entire Book of Enoch 2 covers one Iearns from The Head of Day's; How Creation came about an in this Book I AM even describes the Creation of The Angel's.
Neither Genesis or Jubilees covers that topic of The Angel's which makes all 3 Creation testimonies relevant on my mind Oh that remind's me All of The Angel's are an combination of the Atom Bomb and the H-Bomb put together.
Why does Enoch 2 The Book of Secret's of Enoch have such a profound affect on Me?
Enoch's traveling through The 10 Heaven's made me pause and think; but, arriving in God's Country what a beautiful meeting Enoch had standing in the presence of The Almighty Himself.
From there Enoch settles comfortably before the Very One who sat in the Throne and from The Creator's on Mouth comes the narrative of the Tale of Creation where we come from and The descriptive passage God lays out the story of Creation.
That's all I need I believe in Creation and I trust God's Words regarding How Life began.
Enoch 2 The Book of the Secret's of Enoch
Genesis
Jubilees
All of these are the most extraordinary Creation narratives and I believe these Creation stories.
I'm not kidding check out through Google write
Enoch 2 The Book of The Secret's of Enoch choose Search and this Biblical Text should be seen immediately.
An then follow up the search in Google with The Book of Jubilees there shouId be letter head Pseudiographia along with the entire chapter's available to be Read.
I should share with everyone that Jubilees is a combination of Genesis and The Book of Exodus this book is poignant because it answers the question of what Moses was doing those 40 Day's on Mt. Sinai.
There's a point in Exodus after chapter 20 God instructs Moses to appear before Him; so he's in The Presence of God an it is Moses who wrote Jubilees.
This is all I have to say on this Subject; so I'll end the discussion right here until next discussion Everyone Goodbye!
Are any of you Atlantis buffs aware that the ancient land of Atlantis had two separate armies of women on each side of their land that were viciously attacking them. I also discovered the likely family tree of King Atlas. Pop quiz, do you know the names of those female armies?
“There are still countries where the death penalty continues to be applied through various methods such as the lethal injection, hanging, shooting or the electric chair.”
And well there should be (a death penalty)!
There is a fascinating book about the origin of Noah’s Flood called by that name (Noah’s Flood). It describes the tremendous floods that occurred 7500 years ago around the Black Sea area when the Mediterranean Sea broke through the Bosporus straits and flooded the Black Sea turning it into a salt water sea. This geographical calamity fits extremely well into the narrative mentioned in this article about families having to flee quickly from a major flood that caused the Black Sea to increase dramatically in sea level in a short period of time. Those families left the Anatolia region and spread throughout the world including Europe, Middle East, and North Africa.
Always give the whole quote as it is truly relevant to today's timeline as it was back when written.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero
Aliens? Are we as a civilization so pompous to believe no one came before us? No other civilization could have reached or surpassed us?
We are but a pencil mark on the earth's calendar, truly it would take a mere fifty thousand years to erase our footprint, how many others have come reached their heights and have fallen.
Daniken asked the questions but never supplied the answers, is that not for the “expert's” and if those expert's do not want to rock the boat?
Look to the 200 + ton stones in Lebanon that we cannot duplicate today, man or aliens?
I say man.
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