What an amazing discovery! It will be really interesting to see how this develops & how it changes our understanding of the whole area and period of history.
Hi Xenophone,
Its normal to correlate a subject with our experiences. But, the two sadhus are purely indian origin. Caucasian sadhus are nearly unseen. But, sadhus are in themselves numerous types. Its a subject in itself. You might consider reading a book about Naga sadhus. Its might interest you.
Regards,
vijay
This is terrible. Why do they want to build in exactly that spot? I’m sure there are other places which would be more suitable to build such a factory and would not aid in destroying historical heritage!!
Great article. The Legend that the witches were punished for ‘proganing’ the Sabbat is strange – is the word ‘Sabbat’ meant to mean one of the eight pagan sabbats celebrated during the time of the Celts, or is it used in its more ‘modern’ appellative meaning Sunday? I don’t think so since the stones were constructed much earlier than Christianity. Witches and/or pagan priests used to conduct rituals at these stones, as they did at Stonehenge and Glastonbury circles. It is therefore strange that they are condemned as having desecrated them. Something to ponder.
I am not a specialist, but I have questions about the hypotheses of (1) the mysterious hole in a filter system or (2) art works. If the hypothesis (1) is case, why ancient people did not dig the bigger holes. For hypothesis (2), I am not sure in the time ancient people lived, the valley might be covered by forests or not. If it was covered by forests, it was a very difficult task for designing the symbols.
In addition, if soil (rock) in the holes contain minerals, whether they dug follow seams to make holes in different sizes. Also, is it possible that ancient people quarried stones in the valley and transported to another place?.
The mysterious markings on the wooden idol are possibly the result of an extreme cosmic occurrence witnessed by the idol’s initiator.
Looking at Tolmachev’s rendering of the Shigir Idol statue (far right rendering with three red circles), it is displaying characteristics of high energy plasma discharges as indicated by the branching “limbs” along the vertical “trunk” line forming chevron patterns. These “branches” when observed in high energy plasma discharges can be rising, lowering or straight across depending on the time track of the discharge.
This pattern is known as a Columnar stack of Plasma Toroids or characterized as a Pipette, and has similarly been observed in rock art found throughout the world.
The additional faces in the idol are also characteristics of high energy plasma discharges which have been documented scientifically from recordings in the laboratory and with computer simulation.
Without scientific data, conclusions remain conjecture.
I remember reading many years ago in High Times that a possible explanation of Saint Vitus' Dance was rye bread infested with the fungus (ergot) that LSD was extracted from centuries later by Albert Hoffman. Seems plausible that if people regularly ate a lot of such bread that they might develop bizarre compulsive behavior. Unwittingly ingesting rye fungus, psychedelic mushrooms, etc. might be the logical explanations for at least some forms of mass hysteria, religious "visions" and delusions throughout history.
This is all very interesting, and I agree on some points with previous commenters.
The question I have about this is the speed with which all these proposed mutations and evolutions took place. According to the biological evolutionary model, a few hundred thousand years or even one or two million years is not nearly enough time for this kind of evolution to happen. Tens of millions of years are accorded all the other epochs. How are humans undergoing drastic, systemic changes in a few hundred thousand?
Another question I have is, why are all those bones there in that particular place in Spain? What happened to cause that?
Thank you Veera for that clarification. The Vedas have nothing to do with the south, 100% accurate. This is the unfortunate mis-understanding in the West!!! South and North India are very unique in their practice and the boundary being the Ganges. My ancestry is from the North... goes further back from all my research when speaking of the Kambhoj people.... The Vedas, taken into a different light, had nothing to do with the worship of Hindu gods, rather the elements like other Indigenous tribes, such as N. America etc... Yes, historically, there is an overlap in those North... specifically Punjab (pre-Pakistan) but to claim it as Hindusim is entirely false.
Ok... I'm tired of the fact that the Vedas are being proclaimed by the fundamentalist Hindus (I say this with respect) as Hinduism... THEY ARE NOT... The Vedas came from NORTH of the Ganges before Hinduism ever emerged... Hinduism is from the SOUTH of the Ganges. The Vedas, if you actually read the scripture, did not worship MANY gods.... they worshipped the elements, much like the Indigenous of North America and other various parts of the world.
In the debate over the existence of elongated skulls, no one seems to address the evolutionary reasons for such a formation.
Elongated skulls give humans the ability to have much larger brains, without changing the physical structure of women for birthing. The large human head gives women tremendous pain in child birth today. In order to adapt to a larger brain, it makes sense for the skull to elongate, rather than spread out or get rounder and larger. If the brain got bigger by the skull getting rounder, birth would get harder and harder and eventually impossible. But by getting longer, humans didn’t have to adapt the entire system of giving birth.
who are these idiot researchers who you gave the space in your questionable article? the ones who stated it could be time travelers? you know if this is a true story (which i have my serious doubts), it could possibly mean that...the tomb wasnt sealed! duh.
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What an amazing discovery! It will be really interesting to see how this develops & how it changes our understanding of the whole area and period of history.
Many thanks for the article.
I think the book and movie by Stephen Kind, ‘Rose Red’ was inspired by the Winchester House.
Hi Xenophone,
Its normal to correlate a subject with our experiences. But, the two sadhus are purely indian origin. Caucasian sadhus are nearly unseen. But, sadhus are in themselves numerous types. Its a subject in itself. You might consider reading a book about Naga sadhus. Its might interest you.
Regards,
vijay
This is terrible. Why do they want to build in exactly that spot? I’m sure there are other places which would be more suitable to build such a factory and would not aid in destroying historical heritage!!
Great article. The Legend that the witches were punished for ‘proganing’ the Sabbat is strange – is the word ‘Sabbat’ meant to mean one of the eight pagan sabbats celebrated during the time of the Celts, or is it used in its more ‘modern’ appellative meaning Sunday? I don’t think so since the stones were constructed much earlier than Christianity. Witches and/or pagan priests used to conduct rituals at these stones, as they did at Stonehenge and Glastonbury circles. It is therefore strange that they are condemned as having desecrated them. Something to ponder.
Maybe it is a continuing Ley Line from Stonehenge to Glastonbury?
I am not a specialist, but I have questions about the hypotheses of (1) the mysterious hole in a filter system or (2) art works. If the hypothesis (1) is case, why ancient people did not dig the bigger holes. For hypothesis (2), I am not sure in the time ancient people lived, the valley might be covered by forests or not. If it was covered by forests, it was a very difficult task for designing the symbols.
In addition, if soil (rock) in the holes contain minerals, whether they dug follow seams to make holes in different sizes. Also, is it possible that ancient people quarried stones in the valley and transported to another place?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh2QwvR3aOo
When I first read about Piltdown man years ago my response was the same.
Science works. Truth will prevail.
The mysterious markings on the wooden idol are possibly the result of an extreme cosmic occurrence witnessed by the idol’s initiator.
Looking at Tolmachev’s rendering of the Shigir Idol statue (far right rendering with three red circles), it is displaying characteristics of high energy plasma discharges as indicated by the branching “limbs” along the vertical “trunk” line forming chevron patterns. These “branches” when observed in high energy plasma discharges can be rising, lowering or straight across depending on the time track of the discharge.
This pattern is known as a Columnar stack of Plasma Toroids or characterized as a Pipette, and has similarly been observed in rock art found throughout the world.
The additional faces in the idol are also characteristics of high energy plasma discharges which have been documented scientifically from recordings in the laboratory and with computer simulation.
Without scientific data, conclusions remain conjecture.
I remember reading many years ago in High Times that a possible explanation of Saint Vitus' Dance was rye bread infested with the fungus (ergot) that LSD was extracted from centuries later by Albert Hoffman. Seems plausible that if people regularly ate a lot of such bread that they might develop bizarre compulsive behavior. Unwittingly ingesting rye fungus, psychedelic mushrooms, etc. might be the logical explanations for at least some forms of mass hysteria, religious "visions" and delusions throughout history.
Classic case of white supremacy, The nerve to falsify on the pretense that whites were here first,unbelievable.
This is all very interesting, and I agree on some points with previous commenters.
The question I have about this is the speed with which all these proposed mutations and evolutions took place. According to the biological evolutionary model, a few hundred thousand years or even one or two million years is not nearly enough time for this kind of evolution to happen. Tens of millions of years are accorded all the other epochs. How are humans undergoing drastic, systemic changes in a few hundred thousand?
Another question I have is, why are all those bones there in that particular place in Spain? What happened to cause that?
Thank you Veera for that clarification. The Vedas have nothing to do with the south, 100% accurate. This is the unfortunate mis-understanding in the West!!! South and North India are very unique in their practice and the boundary being the Ganges. My ancestry is from the North... goes further back from all my research when speaking of the Kambhoj people.... The Vedas, taken into a different light, had nothing to do with the worship of Hindu gods, rather the elements like other Indigenous tribes, such as N. America etc... Yes, historically, there is an overlap in those North... specifically Punjab (pre-Pakistan) but to claim it as Hindusim is entirely false.
Ok... I'm tired of the fact that the Vedas are being proclaimed by the fundamentalist Hindus (I say this with respect) as Hinduism... THEY ARE NOT... The Vedas came from NORTH of the Ganges before Hinduism ever emerged... Hinduism is from the SOUTH of the Ganges. The Vedas, if you actually read the scripture, did not worship MANY gods.... they worshipped the elements, much like the Indigenous of North America and other various parts of the world.
In the debate over the existence of elongated skulls, no one seems to address the evolutionary reasons for such a formation.
Elongated skulls give humans the ability to have much larger brains, without changing the physical structure of women for birthing. The large human head gives women tremendous pain in child birth today. In order to adapt to a larger brain, it makes sense for the skull to elongate, rather than spread out or get rounder and larger. If the brain got bigger by the skull getting rounder, birth would get harder and harder and eventually impossible. But by getting longer, humans didn’t have to adapt the entire system of giving birth.
Ever hear of demonic possession?
who are these idiot researchers who you gave the space in your questionable article? the ones who stated it could be time travelers? you know if this is a true story (which i have my serious doubts), it could possibly mean that...the tomb wasnt sealed! duh.
The site is situated on an IDA landbank in Waterford which was offered to WPS
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