Ireland has similar legends. Trying to explain those stories and fit them in current reality kind of spoils the stories. Native americans also have similar legends. Hyperborea, Hi Brasil, Aghartha, Shambala all stories about hidden lands. Thor also said to have come from another dimension that temporarily shared the same space as earthdimension at that time. Humans have very little sacred knowledge about our existence, our planet. And of course those legends may have been abused. But that does not mean they do not have a basis in truth. In Russia it is said that there are a people living under water. And all over the world people see ufos, sometimes rising out of the ocean up north. Spirituality also knows the concept of people ascending into a higher dimension, which could render them invisible for normal people. King Nimrod is said to have owned a cloak that made him invisible.
Labs don't need publicity, its not like we can drive business to them. But if the results are contrary to the accepted paradigm then it becomes negative publicity which no one needs. An example of this is when a lab was given samples and not told what the samples are. When the date came back millions of years off then the lab was embarrassed and refused to date more samples from that submitter.
You can google lab refuses to date samples.
It wasn't much better in some of the other places they went, for all the talk about Viking conquest. Some of the places they 'conquered' beyond Iceland weren't all that great for farmland. Many early emigrants of Scandinavia went through untold suffering, even moreso than the Pilgrims..Their warriors paved the way for them to settle, but there were still often tragic results for their settlers.It is quite admirable that today that Norway sets the example for other nations to follow, and they must have been doing a great deal right to have survived the lives they had then.
It is speculated (based on historical evidence rather than faith) that Jesus left Palestine after the crucifixion (he didn't die) and travelled to India with his mother Mary. Holger Kersten's book "Jesus Live in India" summarizes the tomb currently in Afghanistan.
“The historian Mullah Nadini (1413) also recounts a story of Yuz Asaf who was a contemporary to King Gopadatta, and confirms that he also used the name Issar, ie. Jesus. There is also much historical truth in the towns and villages of Northern India to prove that Jesus and his mother Mary spent time in the area. For instance, at the border of a small town called Mari, there is nearby a mountain called Pindi Point, upon which is an old tomb called Mai Mari da Asthan or "The final resting place of Mary". The tomb is said to be very old and local Muslims venerate it as the grave of Issa's (ie Christ's) Mother. The tomb itself is oriented East-West consistent with the Jewish tradition, despite the fact it is within a Muslim area. Assuming its antiquity, such a tomb could not be Hindu either since the Hindus contemporary to Christ cremated their dead and scattered their ashes as do Hindus today.”
Additionally, DNA has been taken from the tomb in hopes of matching it to the one interred in RosaBal in Kashmir (Jus Asaf) making a strong case for the mother son relationship. Politics, however, stands in the way of matching Mari’s DNA to that in the tomb at Rosa Bal in Srinigar Kashmir.
that the author, evidently does not know, nor research enough to know that mammoths were around until last few were killed (maybe in last few centuries) tell us he has little knowledge of North America fauna and History. Thus anything else said has to be doubted.
Hello
i red something about some kindof 'ancestor civilization' supposedly earlier then Hongshan .
Its jade art craft are made by a so called 'black skin jade' .
I can't find much online or on the text in Western languages, but i realized that a lot of work has been made by Coreans ; less by Chinese .
Does anyone know anything more about it ?
thank you
Q.
Hey sure, you just take whatever amount of time you need to go further. That response I made off of the top of my head, and I numbered your questions and my answers just to make it quicker and easier for me to reply to each point or questions specifically and also just to make all of it easier to follow through. While one of my main interests has always been history, especially of the ancient sort, another has always been spirituality, but in a way that is NOT limited by any one religion or spiritual viewpoint. So I have studied into many religions and the most interesting ones for me are always Eastern. I do this so as to better compare and comprehend the similarities between each, as I find those of the greatest interest while the rest of the world at large seems to spend time on arguing about the differences and which happen to be true. I am perhaps an Omnist, of the view that all religions are true, or at least to one extent or another. In my view none are without value which makes them interesting for me to research and compare. If there is a Godhead, I maintain that IT has no name or religion, both of which are human mental creations having no real value as far as experiencing or defining the Creator.
Also, I am well aware that many here choose to NOT have any sort of spiritual belief, and I have no problem with those folks either. Be a Christian, and Atheist, a Shaman, or and Agnostic. There is plenty of room for all of those and more, and no good reason for any to NOT get along well with others of different cultures or spiritual or philosophical systems. Again I’d like to thank you for asking clear and frank questions about my views on these natters, and you are by no means prevented from disagreeing with me about any views that anyone may have, nor are you expected to NOT formulate your own interpretations about any holy books meanings, or those of any religious grouping. The way I see it, this is a good way for the both of us to consider newer ideas and to perhaps learn something new about the topic! And feel free to ask more questions too if you care to!
"Lehman made no mention of isotopes just the mineral composition."
Misremembered that part of the article, but his mineral test of the blade did determine that it had a higher manganese content than eastern steels. He took the position that the materials were not sources from the Middle East. There is more academic evidence from him and others against an eastern origin of the blade steel, if you look up Lehman, or Alfred Geibig.
Making the sword from local materials was certainly possible, however more complicated and strenuous.
Wow! My friend, that is a fantastic post. I am going to have to read it several times before I can respond substantively. I'm just posting this to express my appreciation of the time and effort you put towards answering my questions.
Dear Cam,
Good work! As you know, the Cimmerians are mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures as “Gomer” (in the table of Nations). Gomer is also the symbolic name used by Hosea, for the northern 10 tribes of Israel, in the Book of Hosea. The Assyrians used a similar name for the ten tribes back then. The Assyrian King Tiglath Pileser III, who transported Israelites into the city cities of the Medes, referred to them as “Bit Khumri” (The house of “Khumri,” as “Gomer,” being a transliteration of the notable Israelite king “Omri.”).
The Greek historians, such as Herodotus and Xenophon, reported that the Persians Kings were descendants of Perseus and Andromeda through their son Perses. Perses was a king of Joppa, the capital of the tribe of Dan. The Persians themselves were supposed to have been named after him. Thus bolstering the notion cut the Persian Kings were ultimately descended from Jacob. I wonder if the name “Achaemenes” could somehow be a corruption of the name “Jacob” (“Achaem” as “Jacob”)
Anyway, I would refer your readers to a work of mine which has more information along this line of reasoning and can be found at: https://www.academia.edu/4457555/Perseus_a_Danaan_Moses_Part_2_
Keep up the good work and thanks for your article.
I wonder why more people don't connect the elongated skulls of Paracas Peru, Egyptian Pharaohs, and elsewhere to Neanderthal. Other common traits larger eye orbits, red hair, less molar teeth, stockier build wider chest shorter limbs, etc. ... They've always been here before humans and are here to stay. Created humans as slaves, wrote the bible. Hidden rulers of the planet.
If this stuff is in every matter in the universe why are you inhaling it.You should be loaded with it. Let's get some sense into this conversation please.The product appears in certain plants as a natural product and has been used by Amazonian Indians for "medicinal " purposes for aeons. It proves nothing by taking it apart from you hallucinating that your dimension is shifting. Perhaps you were being sarcastic and I missed it. Cheers if you were..
i am an old who thinks a lot, because i don`t have the energy to do much else.
what about placeing a suitable stone on a stone underneath it and one to the side of it
and slide it backwards and forwards a few inches and i think it would eventually fit perfectly,
if this was done from say left to right there would be no need to fit stones into three sided gaps.
sorry if i wasted your time , it was just a thought , tom
Jack, only the pommel and guard had trace minerals distinctive of the region. The sword blade, made from a single or combined ingot is still most likely middle eastern or Asian in origin. What are the isotopes you are referring to? Lehman made no mention of isotopes just the mineral composition. He also stated that the sword may have been assembled in Germany. "Assembled" is not the defining origin of the steel.
And yes, the Indians need to be more assertive with their history. Not "Hindu's"...the word Hindu is a collective term used to describe followers of the vedic books. the term-use and use is just 200-300 years old. Pakistan an Bangladesh are also part of the same history dating ban 10.000 BC...colonialism will do that to a country/people/culture.
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Its good to see some new theories on old subjects but i would like to see more on australia
Ireland has similar legends. Trying to explain those stories and fit them in current reality kind of spoils the stories. Native americans also have similar legends. Hyperborea, Hi Brasil, Aghartha, Shambala all stories about hidden lands. Thor also said to have come from another dimension that temporarily shared the same space as earthdimension at that time. Humans have very little sacred knowledge about our existence, our planet. And of course those legends may have been abused. But that does not mean they do not have a basis in truth. In Russia it is said that there are a people living under water. And all over the world people see ufos, sometimes rising out of the ocean up north. Spirituality also knows the concept of people ascending into a higher dimension, which could render them invisible for normal people. King Nimrod is said to have owned a cloak that made him invisible.
Labs don't need publicity, its not like we can drive business to them. But if the results are contrary to the accepted paradigm then it becomes negative publicity which no one needs. An example of this is when a lab was given samples and not told what the samples are. When the date came back millions of years off then the lab was embarrassed and refused to date more samples from that submitter.
You can google lab refuses to date samples.
It wasn't much better in some of the other places they went, for all the talk about Viking conquest. Some of the places they 'conquered' beyond Iceland weren't all that great for farmland. Many early emigrants of Scandinavia went through untold suffering, even moreso than the Pilgrims..Their warriors paved the way for them to settle, but there were still often tragic results for their settlers.It is quite admirable that today that Norway sets the example for other nations to follow, and they must have been doing a great deal right to have survived the lives they had then.
It is speculated (based on historical evidence rather than faith) that Jesus left Palestine after the crucifixion (he didn't die) and travelled to India with his mother Mary. Holger Kersten's book "Jesus Live in India" summarizes the tomb currently in Afghanistan.
“The historian Mullah Nadini (1413) also recounts a story of Yuz Asaf who was a contemporary to King Gopadatta, and confirms that he also used the name Issar, ie. Jesus. There is also much historical truth in the towns and villages of Northern India to prove that Jesus and his mother Mary spent time in the area. For instance, at the border of a small town called Mari, there is nearby a mountain called Pindi Point, upon which is an old tomb called Mai Mari da Asthan or "The final resting place of Mary". The tomb is said to be very old and local Muslims venerate it as the grave of Issa's (ie Christ's) Mother. The tomb itself is oriented East-West consistent with the Jewish tradition, despite the fact it is within a Muslim area. Assuming its antiquity, such a tomb could not be Hindu either since the Hindus contemporary to Christ cremated their dead and scattered their ashes as do Hindus today.”
Additionally, DNA has been taken from the tomb in hopes of matching it to the one interred in RosaBal in Kashmir (Jus Asaf) making a strong case for the mother son relationship. Politics, however, stands in the way of matching Mari’s DNA to that in the tomb at Rosa Bal in Srinigar Kashmir.
7. The Sentinel Sarcophagi of the Warriors of the Clouds
Why is there no mention of the remains being Caucasian? That alone is fascinating.
that the author, evidently does not know, nor research enough to know that mammoths were around until last few were killed (maybe in last few centuries) tell us he has little knowledge of North America fauna and History. Thus anything else said has to be doubted.
Unfortunately, it was built nearly 3 millennia early for murdering Christians.
Hello
i red something about some kindof 'ancestor civilization' supposedly earlier then Hongshan .
Its jade art craft are made by a so called 'black skin jade' .
I can't find much online or on the text in Western languages, but i realized that a lot of work has been made by Coreans ; less by Chinese .
Does anyone know anything more about it ?
thank you
Q.
Hey sure, you just take whatever amount of time you need to go further. That response I made off of the top of my head, and I numbered your questions and my answers just to make it quicker and easier for me to reply to each point or questions specifically and also just to make all of it easier to follow through. While one of my main interests has always been history, especially of the ancient sort, another has always been spirituality, but in a way that is NOT limited by any one religion or spiritual viewpoint. So I have studied into many religions and the most interesting ones for me are always Eastern. I do this so as to better compare and comprehend the similarities between each, as I find those of the greatest interest while the rest of the world at large seems to spend time on arguing about the differences and which happen to be true. I am perhaps an Omnist, of the view that all religions are true, or at least to one extent or another. In my view none are without value which makes them interesting for me to research and compare. If there is a Godhead, I maintain that IT has no name or religion, both of which are human mental creations having no real value as far as experiencing or defining the Creator.
Also, I am well aware that many here choose to NOT have any sort of spiritual belief, and I have no problem with those folks either. Be a Christian, and Atheist, a Shaman, or and Agnostic. There is plenty of room for all of those and more, and no good reason for any to NOT get along well with others of different cultures or spiritual or philosophical systems. Again I’d like to thank you for asking clear and frank questions about my views on these natters, and you are by no means prevented from disagreeing with me about any views that anyone may have, nor are you expected to NOT formulate your own interpretations about any holy books meanings, or those of any religious grouping. The way I see it, this is a good way for the both of us to consider newer ideas and to perhaps learn something new about the topic! And feel free to ask more questions too if you care to!
"Lehman made no mention of isotopes just the mineral composition."
Misremembered that part of the article, but his mineral test of the blade did determine that it had a higher manganese content than eastern steels. He took the position that the materials were not sources from the Middle East. There is more academic evidence from him and others against an eastern origin of the blade steel, if you look up Lehman, or Alfred Geibig.
Making the sword from local materials was certainly possible, however more complicated and strenuous.
Wow! My friend, that is a fantastic post. I am going to have to read it several times before I can respond substantively. I'm just posting this to express my appreciation of the time and effort you put towards answering my questions.
The Miracle in Naju, Korea - Heaven Speaks to the World Paperback – 1992
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Dear Cam,
Good work! As you know, the Cimmerians are mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures as “Gomer” (in the table of Nations). Gomer is also the symbolic name used by Hosea, for the northern 10 tribes of Israel, in the Book of Hosea. The Assyrians used a similar name for the ten tribes back then. The Assyrian King Tiglath Pileser III, who transported Israelites into the city cities of the Medes, referred to them as “Bit Khumri” (The house of “Khumri,” as “Gomer,” being a transliteration of the notable Israelite king “Omri.”).
The Greek historians, such as Herodotus and Xenophon, reported that the Persians Kings were descendants of Perseus and Andromeda through their son Perses. Perses was a king of Joppa, the capital of the tribe of Dan. The Persians themselves were supposed to have been named after him. Thus bolstering the notion cut the Persian Kings were ultimately descended from Jacob. I wonder if the name “Achaemenes” could somehow be a corruption of the name “Jacob” (“Achaem” as “Jacob”)
Anyway, I would refer your readers to a work of mine which has more information along this line of reasoning and can be found at:
https://www.academia.edu/4457555/Perseus_a_Danaan_Moses_Part_2_
Keep up the good work and thanks for your article.
I wonder why more people don't connect the elongated skulls of Paracas Peru, Egyptian Pharaohs, and elsewhere to Neanderthal. Other common traits larger eye orbits, red hair, less molar teeth, stockier build wider chest shorter limbs, etc. ... They've always been here before humans and are here to stay. Created humans as slaves, wrote the bible. Hidden rulers of the planet.
If this stuff is in every matter in the universe why are you inhaling it.You should be loaded with it. Let's get some sense into this conversation please.The product appears in certain plants as a natural product and has been used by Amazonian Indians for "medicinal " purposes for aeons. It proves nothing by taking it apart from you hallucinating that your dimension is shifting. Perhaps you were being sarcastic and I missed it. Cheers if you were..
It's upside down needs to be turned 180 deg.
Are you talking about tussing? That makes 3 people that has mentioned that!
i am an old who thinks a lot, because i don`t have the energy to do much else.
what about placeing a suitable stone on a stone underneath it and one to the side of it
and slide it backwards and forwards a few inches and i think it would eventually fit perfectly,
if this was done from say left to right there would be no need to fit stones into three sided gaps.
sorry if i wasted your time , it was just a thought , tom
Jack, only the pommel and guard had trace minerals distinctive of the region. The sword blade, made from a single or combined ingot is still most likely middle eastern or Asian in origin. What are the isotopes you are referring to? Lehman made no mention of isotopes just the mineral composition. He also stated that the sword may have been assembled in Germany. "Assembled" is not the defining origin of the steel.
And yes, the Indians need to be more assertive with their history. Not "Hindu's"...the word Hindu is a collective term used to describe followers of the vedic books. the term-use and use is just 200-300 years old. Pakistan an Bangladesh are also part of the same history dating ban 10.000 BC...colonialism will do that to a country/people/culture.
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