@Amjad Hussain,
I think you are quite right on this. The Milky Way is mythically mentioned as The Celestial River in the night Sky, and the Milky Way arms represents the celestial 4 rivers of creation, which are connected to the Milky Way center = The central Garden of Eden = The Creation.
From this center, everything in the MIlk yWay is created and pushed out in the galactic surroundings = The biblical Expulsion from the Eden center of Creation.
That is: Our Solar System was once created in the Milky Way center as one huge glowing and spinning sphere which divided out into planets from where the moons again divided out from their mother planets, hence their locked orbital motions. All this can be deduced from the numerous cultural Stories of Creation.

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Is there any way this could be used as some sort of gauge for some type of rod / pipe? Possibly used by the "plumbers", or builders of the many aqueduct systems from that time

1.Yes, all of those verses seem to be saying “actions have consequences”. Is that all that karma is? I thought it was rather more specific than that...i.e., that what you sow in this life will be reaped in the next, in the “eye-for-an-eye” type of low justice.

1. - It is both "all it is," and also specific to the extremity, i.e. both are one and the same thing if you take the overall interpretations from the various spiritual paths that have karma and reincarnation. And make no mistake, both ARE tied inextricably together, there cannot be one that is in any way effective without the other also existing in tandem with the previous. What you sow in this life is NOT necessarily reaped in the next however, it can only be said that it WILL be reaped at some point, and when that might occur is very dependent on that Soul's spiritual progress. This idea is also found in the paths that contain karma/reincarnation in them. The purpose for both is to eventually learn and expand the state of consciousness or being into the Eternal state, that NOT being or becoming a god or God, but rather Soul realizing Its own Godlike natural state, It being an "atom" of that supreme Being if you will. Of course any who refuse to carry that idea as even a possibility will not be forced to accept it, but at the same time not utilizing it can be a wall that can be very hard to experience the other side of without first letting go of the mental and emotional states that exist within each of us. Also the " 'eye for an eye' type of low justice," is a misnomer. The term justice is another one of those mental limits. While it is a form of justice, it is not one that is forced upon any individual, because the fact remains that that original choice the individual made, created the karma in question, and the fact that it even exists at all creates the necessity of it being eventually brought to a balanced state, meaning a state where it no longer exists as an imbalance. Regardless of any beings within any spiritual hierarchy existing and causing it to manifest in the individual's life, there is the fact that they made a free willed choice to create it for themselves, and by doing that also created the need for that particular lesson to be learned so as to bring about that balanced state. It is no "low" justice, it is the literal choice the individual made for themselves. By their own choosing, they required themselves to learn a lesson by the "eye for an eye" low justice, either unknowingly, which clearly demonstrates the need for that type of lesson, or fully knowingly, which in most cases causes that lesson to be ever mar harsh when the time comes for that price to be collected. Within all systems of karma/reincarnation, the negative and painful experiences that any has to go through, they have chosen to go through willingly. It is as simple as that.

2.Either way, you make a good argument. Like I said, I do not dispute that early Christians believed in reincarnation of some kind. I do have my doubts about karma, but that does not mean early Christians didn't believe in it. And I do not think a belief in reincarnation automatically means a belief in karma. The Gnostics seemed to believe we reincarnate here over and over because we're trapped in a crappy wannabe universe made by the Demiurge, a being who falsely claims to be the universal soul or God. The Karmic system implies a hierarchy of spirit, where the definitions of what is good and bad come from the top in some way, for the betterment of all. The Demiurge is not a good guy and doesn't want betterment, he wants us to stay trapped in his clockwork universe. (That’s my rough summary of Gnostic cosmology, anyway, lol)

2. - I outlined the reason for karma/reincarnation being attached to each other, and while you may disagree about that (which is fine) I will not belabor the point ad nauseum having covered it in the previous paragraph. As for the Gnostic's beliefs, we would have need of being more specific than that, as there have been many differing groups that considered themselves to be Gnostics, so we cannot use that term without also specifying which group is meant, because they did not necessarily all agree on the same points between groups in differing countries or geographic areas. The Demiurge is the Negative pole called by many names around the world. To the Jews Satan is the Adversary, to the Christians he is a fallen angel....I view both as very much the same concept. To Muslims he is Iblis. To Zoroastrians he is Ahriman (and it is notable that the Jews got their religion FROM the Zoroastrians while enslaved for many generations in Babylon) and to the Hindus there is no one evil being, and Jainism sees things the same way while Buddhism calls it Māra, sometimes speaking of that as an individual being, but etymologically speaking it has its roots in life, death, and worldly living. The Sikhs name it as Kal Niranjan defining that as being the Universal Mind, which claims to be God but is merely of the mind and therefore not a Divinity.  The way they define it is very similar to the Demiurge to the Jews and Gnostics as a being that has the job of testing Souls and teaching them to aspire to ever higher levels of beingness. It is for this reason that the idea of karma/reincarnation are able to fit so well into the Abrahamic faiths, despite the fact that all of them have in the current age completely denied any connection as ever having existed and making any who believe in it a heretic, which btw is simply another mental distinction or box to separate people into which proves it impossible to be an idea that any Supreme Being would lower Itself into having exist. It is a distinction of the human mind that brought that into being and it has nothing to do with any spiritual systems or religions other than to say that human created it and placed it within those systems.

3.Also, don't some of the eastern beliefs in reincarnation say you might reincarnate as any kind of life form? And this is also connected to karma in some way...like if I was just generally a sh**ty person in this life, I might be reincarnated as a dung beetle the next couple of times, or something like that.

3. - Eastern religions DO include the possibility that one CAN reincarnate as something other than a human, however, generally speaking they set it out in such a way that it becomes self-evident that the Soul began as a mineral i.e. the lowest and most basic form of being that a Soul can inhabit, that then goes through existences as being microorganisms, germs, plants, fish, birds and animals eventually arriving into a human body it being supposedly the highest form of life, BUT, it is important to mention that while they all see humanity as being the highest form, it is still nothing more than a potential of greatness and spirituality until any individual does the work to actually attain it and be able to live in balance WITH the rest of humanity, which is no small task being that humanity often wars over differing beliefs and spiritual systems. Now, a sh*tty human doing sh*tty things repeatedly WOULD create karma for them, however, it would NOT cause them to be born as a dung beetle because how can a dung beetle be aware of the state of its life and also the better state of the former life that they chose to give up? It can't. Thus human offenses have the necessity of being brought as life circumstances to human beings, because they can become aware of why it is happening to them, and that they literally chose it for themselves, and only then can any degree of learning happen that that individual can then make changes in the way they see things and the ways that they interact with other life forms on earth. Understand? Of course I am saying all of this for the benefit of you understanding what I mean, and am not insisting that you change your spiritual beliefs or anything, as such matters are yours alone to decide what to do with. I have only tried to explain these ideas in a way that is easy to understand, and hopefully I have succeeded...ty for asking and giving me this opportunity to have this discussion!

This is all very interesting.

I very much agree about that!

No ones got close enough to see chisel marks or other fine details that need to get close to see them.
I believe it is man made, yet why there ? I again bet it is a marker for a burial or treasure. What else would its purpose be ? Ancients always did things for reasons, unlike us today who do all kinds of things for the hell of it. Someone could be lowered in with a helicopter to at least get up close once...

Anyone build this pigeon to see if it would fly ? Like to see it :)

History has proven that scaring the sh*t out of people, combined with calls for redemption and stories of liberating miracles is the most profitable business model for religious leaders.
And there will always be stupid people that fall for these swindlers.

lo de arriba es un cactus.

This is the oldest computer found to date. Clearly from the sophistication of the device it's existence must have been predated by many others on the evoluntionary tract to this. This level of complexity does not spring into existence fully developed.

"...obviously some rich swiss traveler who owned that ring traveled to China, lost the ring watch, some bird got it as a shining piece of jewelry and transported it to the nest near or inside the tomb."

Good so far, but the tomb was sealed and below ground so the bird cannot have been the last link in the chain. That leaves the story short a satisfactory ending, so ....

... after building the ringwatch nest in a tree above the ground near the tomb entrace, the bird found a mate, made some baby chicks, fed 'em for a few weeks, then kicked them out on their arses and told them to get a friggin' job already(only she said it in Chinese/Bird, where it is much more insulting). During this period of domestic uproar the ringwatch fell to the ground beneath the tree.
It lay in the dirt near the trunk of the tree, slowly sinking with each rain. Ants diverted around it. Beetles ran into it over and over until eventually they missed it and continued on. Earthworms diverted around it. Small plant roots pushed it back and forth, and always down. During this period it developed the encrusted minerals on large protions of its outer shell.
At some point, it has sunk deep enough that it is at the level of the tomb. But the tomb is lined with stone, tightly joined, with no breaches through whicb the ringwatch could pass through. So it sits there, deep beneath the earth but above the tomb proper.

And it sits there.

Still sits there.

Continues to still sit there.

Then, just before the modern day arrived and invalidated our story, a brief(maybe), temporally dubious highly energetic series of events took place in the area involving a time traveler who was being pursued by aliens The time traveler had lost his return lock thanks to a bit of quantum sabotage by the ETs, and was thus forced to seek out the nearest ETEs(Emergency Temporal Evac station), which, it so happened, was this tomb.
Lots of amusing and interesting but irrelevant things happened very quickly, ending with both time traveler and aliens departing at tachyonic speeds for the far horizons of time, launched from within the tomb. There was a bit of bleed effect, causing the stone ceiling to phase shift slightly for a brief second, during which the ringwatch dropped through, rolled a bit, and stopped, in the spot it would later be found by a confused archaeologist.

Fini

(see, it does take time travelers and aliens to get it in that tomb, even if you start with rich Swiss traveler and bird)