No, but can you point me to some of these articles you mention that indicate the species is 6k years old, and a couple that deal with the mutation rate? Thanks.
Agreed. Terence's "stoned ape" theory has merits. I also like Dr. Sheldrake's concept of morphic resonance. Possibly it is some combination of the two which accounts for the quickening of the human race.
Since the time of Bishop D'Arcis, the French church has known what the shroud is and whose image it is. There is no mystery about what it is or whose image it is. The church even chose to announce the results of the carbon dating on the very anniversary of the shroud's creation. The only ones ‘fooled’ are those believing it to be related to the historical figure of Christ, or denouncing it as fake.
The facts.
The linen is dated to between 1260 and 1390.
The shroud first appeared in the family of a senior Templar who had been arrested and tortured.
The shroud was found stored in exactly the right conditions for developing a Volckringer image.
The Templars used just this type of shroud for ceremonial purposes so there would have been a shroud in the Paris Temple.
The three twirl herringbone weave was unknown outside western Europe prior to 1300.
The Paris Inquisition was noted for nailing heretics to the nearest wooden object until they confessed.
The Grand Master of the Templars is recorded as complaining to the pope about just such treatment.
The Volckringer image takes about fifty years to develop and the shroud with its image makes its first recorded appearance just fifty years after the interrogation.
The process of image formation is only possible with a living subject.
The recorded fading of the image is exactly the behaviour predicted for a Volckringer image of that age.
The contemporary Church in France consistently said the image had 'been made by human hand', not cunningly painted as the Latin is often erroneously translated.
The image looks exactly like the last Grand Master of the Templars who had long hair and a beard.
In fourteenth century France only Knights Templar were required to wear their hair and beard long in the fashion of the man of the shroud.
I saw some pictures of robber holes blanketing a large area of desert in Egypt recently and one of the comments referred to the interesting similarity to the group of holes in the above article. (I totally agreed!)
Global level events likely killed off the majority of populations in largely populated areas, left to survive instead of thrive, lots of the information was lost and we fell back into the stone age.
Call me a stickler Tom, but I was responding to your comment about seperate species not being able to interbreed. Also, I don’t agree with your remark about white people. I wonder how long it’ll take before the Hitler effect on society wears off.
Exactly. Humans and other creatures have an instinct to pro-create. But because modern archaeology and anthropology has a very Euro-centric bias, few openly talk about sex as a major force in human history. Sexually repressed European and American scientists dance around the question of sex.
Signs of interbreeding exist all over the world and must have happened long ago and continued throughout history. And as you point out, tigrs and lions make ligers. That comes from the over emphasis on physical appearances, which I think happened for simiar reasons related to Euro-centrism and racism. White people like to think of themselves as inately smarter than others, and that affects their view of nature and history.
Superficial appearances don't tell the story. DNA and other methods someday might.
Though I’m no expert on the subject, there are numerous examples of seperate species under the same genus breeding; for example lions and tigers. Of course, all of these categories are defined by humans, not nature. Nonetheless...
"For the shroud to be a fake, it would have to have been made specifically to fool people into thinking it was something it is not."
Exactly. It was clearly made specifically to fool people into thinking it was something it is not. Therefore 'fake' is a good term, by your definition.
People should remember that few studies of the past use the scientific method. Except for DNA and a few other scientific methods, the study of the past can't apply science, but rather has to engage in educated guesswork.
This results in an enormous amount of BS becoming accepted as fact. To this day, you get all kinds of "scientists" calling Neanderthal a separate species, when DNA shows we bred with them and have their genes in us today. Separate species cannot breed, meaning we belong to the same species.
Tons of people today have Neanderthal features. If you have red hair or white skin, you may have Neanderthal genes. Look at reconstructions of Neanderthal faces and you will see people you could see on the street today.
People should remember that few studies of the past use the scientific method. Except for DNA and a few other scientific methods, the study of the past can't apply science, but rather has to engage in educated guesswork.
This results in an enormous amount of BS becoming accepted as fact. To this day, you get all kinds of "scientists" calling Neanderthal a separate species, when DNA shows we bred with them and have their genes in us today. Separate species cannot breed, meaning we belong to the same species.
Tons of people today have Neanderthal features. If you have red hair or white skin, you may have Neanderthal genes. Look at reconstructions of Neanderthal faces and you will see people you could see on the street today.
Well, yes and no. Saying that he was German would be incorrect, however, saying that he was Germanic would not be incorrect. I apologize if this across as rude, I truly am.
I haven’t read any of his books, but based on his reputation, speeches, and examples of his findings, I’d say Cremo is meticulous in his research and keeps any speculation regarding his findings practically under lock and key. He also gives a wide berth to his personal beliefs when dealing with academia, presenting distilled facts from which others are left to draw their own conclusions.
Yes, sorry bigots, persons who would fall under the classification of transgender have existed for many thousands of years. But there is another possible explanation for this warrior. Could she also not have had Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, which means her phenotype was female but that she had xy chromosomes? Apart from trans people existing, Intersex persons have also always existed. Just a thought.
Have trouble taking anyone seriously when a Google search of their name brings up 'people also searched for David Childress'... Although he looks a little more serious (about himself at least) than the imbiciles on Ancient Aliens, who are obviously now only in it for the money and struggle not to laugh as they present yet another bottom of the barrel theory!
Here you can navigate quickly through all comments made in any article sorted by date/time.
Heya Rizzman :D
I thought about it, but decided it wasn't necessary to make my point.
No, but can you point me to some of these articles you mention that indicate the species is 6k years old, and a couple that deal with the mutation rate? Thanks.
Very interesting. I was aware of this splice of Hinduism, but this is has some nice details.
@Rizzman
Agreed. Terence's "stoned ape" theory has merits. I also like Dr. Sheldrake's concept of morphic resonance. Possibly it is some combination of the two which accounts for the quickening of the human race.
I agree.
Since the time of Bishop D'Arcis, the French church has known what the shroud is and whose image it is. There is no mystery about what it is or whose image it is. The church even chose to announce the results of the carbon dating on the very anniversary of the shroud's creation. The only ones ‘fooled’ are those believing it to be related to the historical figure of Christ, or denouncing it as fake.
The facts.
The linen is dated to between 1260 and 1390.
The shroud first appeared in the family of a senior Templar who had been arrested and tortured.
The shroud was found stored in exactly the right conditions for developing a Volckringer image.
The Templars used just this type of shroud for ceremonial purposes so there would have been a shroud in the Paris Temple.
The three twirl herringbone weave was unknown outside western Europe prior to 1300.
The Paris Inquisition was noted for nailing heretics to the nearest wooden object until they confessed.
The Grand Master of the Templars is recorded as complaining to the pope about just such treatment.
The Volckringer image takes about fifty years to develop and the shroud with its image makes its first recorded appearance just fifty years after the interrogation.
The process of image formation is only possible with a living subject.
The recorded fading of the image is exactly the behaviour predicted for a Volckringer image of that age.
The contemporary Church in France consistently said the image had 'been made by human hand', not cunningly painted as the Latin is often erroneously translated.
The image looks exactly like the last Grand Master of the Templars who had long hair and a beard.
In fourteenth century France only Knights Templar were required to wear their hair and beard long in the fashion of the man of the shroud.
Hey Marc...a cold front came to his village and the sky fell on him. Global warming is a big political hoax.
I saw some pictures of robber holes blanketing a large area of desert in Egypt recently and one of the comments referred to the interesting similarity to the group of holes in the above article. (I totally agreed!)
Global level events likely killed off the majority of populations in largely populated areas, left to survive instead of thrive, lots of the information was lost and we fell back into the stone age.
Call me a stickler Tom, but I was responding to your comment about seperate species not being able to interbreed. Also, I don’t agree with your remark about white people. I wonder how long it’ll take before the Hitler effect on society wears off.
Exactly. Humans and other creatures have an instinct to pro-create. But because modern archaeology and anthropology has a very Euro-centric bias, few openly talk about sex as a major force in human history. Sexually repressed European and American scientists dance around the question of sex.
Signs of interbreeding exist all over the world and must have happened long ago and continued throughout history. And as you point out, tigrs and lions make ligers. That comes from the over emphasis on physical appearances, which I think happened for simiar reasons related to Euro-centrism and racism. White people like to think of themselves as inately smarter than others, and that affects their view of nature and history.
Superficial appearances don't tell the story. DNA and other methods someday might.
Though I’m no expert on the subject, there are numerous examples of seperate species under the same genus breeding; for example lions and tigers. Of course, all of these categories are defined by humans, not nature. Nonetheless...
"For the shroud to be a fake, it would have to have been made specifically to fool people into thinking it was something it is not."
Exactly. It was clearly made specifically to fool people into thinking it was something it is not. Therefore 'fake' is a good term, by your definition.
People should remember that few studies of the past use the scientific method. Except for DNA and a few other scientific methods, the study of the past can't apply science, but rather has to engage in educated guesswork.
This results in an enormous amount of BS becoming accepted as fact. To this day, you get all kinds of "scientists" calling Neanderthal a separate species, when DNA shows we bred with them and have their genes in us today. Separate species cannot breed, meaning we belong to the same species.
Tons of people today have Neanderthal features. If you have red hair or white skin, you may have Neanderthal genes. Look at reconstructions of Neanderthal faces and you will see people you could see on the street today.
People should remember that few studies of the past use the scientific method. Except for DNA and a few other scientific methods, the study of the past can't apply science, but rather has to engage in educated guesswork.
This results in an enormous amount of BS becoming accepted as fact. To this day, you get all kinds of "scientists" calling Neanderthal a separate species, when DNA shows we bred with them and have their genes in us today. Separate species cannot breed, meaning we belong to the same species.
Tons of people today have Neanderthal features. If you have red hair or white skin, you may have Neanderthal genes. Look at reconstructions of Neanderthal faces and you will see people you could see on the street today.
An architectural remnant wonder of ancient America – How fitting that it’s now incorporated into one of America’s favorite past-times – golf.
I guess they keep the grass trimmed to make for easy viewing as the golfers drive by in their carts.
Well, yes and no. Saying that he was German would be incorrect, however, saying that he was Germanic would not be incorrect. I apologize if this across as rude, I truly am.
I haven’t read any of his books, but based on his reputation, speeches, and examples of his findings, I’d say Cremo is meticulous in his research and keeps any speculation regarding his findings practically under lock and key. He also gives a wide berth to his personal beliefs when dealing with academia, presenting distilled facts from which others are left to draw their own conclusions.
Yes, sorry bigots, persons who would fall under the classification of transgender have existed for many thousands of years. But there is another possible explanation for this warrior. Could she also not have had Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, which means her phenotype was female but that she had xy chromosomes? Apart from trans people existing, Intersex persons have also always existed. Just a thought.
Have trouble taking anyone seriously when a Google search of their name brings up 'people also searched for David Childress'... Although he looks a little more serious (about himself at least) than the imbiciles on Ancient Aliens, who are obviously now only in it for the money and struggle not to laugh as they present yet another bottom of the barrel theory!
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