Denise, your recent post on this thread, is so far the most dumbest and ignorant as it relates to ancient Black African civilizations. By the way, neither did the ancient Black Egyptians, Nubian’s, Puntite’s, Cushites, Aksumite’s and many other great Black African civilizations originate outside of Africa in the “Sub Human” Neanderthal continent known as Europa (Europe). Your ignorance to think that the African continent has a jungle full of Black people without cultures and great civilizations is beyond stupidity, in that it falls to the level of unsanitary toilet waste...All of Africa’s great civilizations came from the SOUTH and moved forwardly to the North.. The ancient Egyptian “BOOK OF THE DEAD” which was approved by all the Egyptian High Priests details EXACTLY where the ancient Egyptians came from: “WE COME FROM WHERE THE NILE BEGAN, AND WHERE GOD HAPI DWELL. AT THE FOOTHILLS OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE MOON”…...hunefer papyrus There are only two mountains in all of Africa that are referred to as “MOUNTAINS OF THE MOON” and they are the Kilimanjaro in Tanganyika, and the Rwenzori in Uganda, and they are both located in East/Central Africa in the Great Lakes area where the first of three “Nile Rivers” began, and it sure isn’t in the Neanderthal sub human continent of Europa, where their 4% neanderthal sub human descendants still dwell in massive numbers. Yes there are Jungles throughout the world and in Africa...It is noted that Europa has many Forests where “DARK AGE” impoverished 99% illiterate people lived while fighting petty tribal wars, many times while being “buck naked” with stolen swords, sticks, and wooden shields, long after the fall of the Roman empire, and Blackamoors came in and rescued these “uncivilized” barbaric savages which led them into what was called the Renaissance period...
All engineering and remainders of their human advancement is lost. We don't recognize what happened in light of the fact that the Mesopotamians took them over and undoubtedly expelled all remainders http://www.domyessaynow.co.uk. This makes it so that history specialists and archeologists can't discover anything that gives us any data on these civic establishments.
The Thunderbolts Project hypothesizes that the ancients lived in a very real fear of the occasional meteor shower, sand, naptha, and other bad thing falling from the skies, but even moreso of frequent lighting strikes, and that ancient lightning storms were literally earth changing events. The Michael Steinbacher did a lot of work on that subject, too.
a lot of people have the wrong idea about what thunderstones really are ..in my life time I am the only one I have ever known that found any. there are questions about how to find them and where they come from .. my story I hope will clear these questions up or totally confuse everyone ... sorry
my father & mother took my oldest brother ,me and my youngest brother rock hounding for gem stones ... after finding some . the land owner ask my father if he was going to the Indian dig site , my father said what is that . and the land own showed him a site .. it was a plowed field .. he told my father the near by university had dug there before and did not find much . but now and then pottery would show up in the field . so we ate lunch and the land own left and we started to hunt for pottery . I walked about 8 or 10 ft into the field and just stood there ,. my father told me what happen next .. I looked straight up above me and went into some kind of a mediation trans walked about 4 ft and stopped and bend down on my knees and started running my right hand threw the dirt I never took my eyes off the sky above me ...I picked up something and put it in my left hand .. I then walked about 15 ft away from that spot and did the same thing ,I never look down and then walked to the edge of the field and did it again .. all the time my eyes were looking up at the sky even when I was walking ...the last one ,I walked about 60 ft away and dug down a ft or more deep and found the stone and put it in my hand and walked back to where my father was about 15ft away from him I stopped and my head looked straight forward and i froze like a dead person .. my father had been watching all of this the whole time , he tried to see what was in my hand but I was frozen in my tracks and he could not get my hand open .he then yield to mother telling her I was not breathing , he then started to panic yelling at me and shaking me trying get me to wake up ... I came out of the trans and don't remember any of it ...but when I open my hand there was the 4 black stones .. I don't know how or why ...I know this is how they were found .I was there ,they found me ..did they fall from the sky ..NO ..but I can under stand why people would think that ...they defy modern science and logic .. I under stand this but if you can tell me how this is possible ,I will be just as happy as you are to know ... I don't know what this means .. I don't under stand it .. but that is the truth and that's how they were found ...I most likely have just as many questions as you do about this .. I just don't know the answers ...I have so many questions about this I gave up and put them away and that's where they have been most of the last 50 years this fall....I know it sounds crazy but that's the truth and that's what happened ...that 's nether here nor there ...these are not made by human hands ..they are just as they were the day I found them ...I have no idea what they are made of .. I have been told many theories threw the years , , what do I know about them .. they are some kind of black stone not onyx or tourmaline, they have what looks like fine wire gold running threw out them .. one has what looks like a small diamond chip in it .. very small and very shinny ,they are not machine made ..they are heavy for there size like the weight of black gold ,they have very small pen point pick marks all over them ,more on some then others ...I get light headed being around them and my arms lose feeling if I hold them ...some other people could not touch them at all .. it freak them out ...some did not even like being in the room with them ...
you can not see threw them or even into the them .. they are not perfect they have some scratches and light roughness ...
the wampum bead is made of the same type of stone and is hand made ... the Shaman must have had a source of this type of stone ...or knew where to look for it ...I have a garden with lots of clay and I would have found some of this stone there if it was from clay .. so it most likely is from glacier movement or something like that ... the site was dated to 1685- early 1700's around the time of the lost nation ...and that would be about the time the egg would have been made...coopers falls was founded in 1649 and it had to be 20-40 years after that ... we still don't know if it has anything to do with guiding me to the stones ...? and why me there were 5 people there that day ...?
Interesting article but the illustration at the top makes these walls look as big as the Space Shuttle Vehicle Assembly Building. Sorry, the Egyptians didn't build everything as big as the Pyramids. That compromises the integrity of the article. Please replace with a more realistic image of ancient Memphis.
Hm, someone who "meatball" dug a live tv show including unwrapping the mummy being so concerned about giving remains dignity? Odd sort of thing, that. I guess he likes to revise his own history ad lib.
Purification by immersion in water ritual to prepare.
Ritual communal drink.
Ritual celebration of the death and rebirth of the child of a god.
Mysteries at the core.
Add the virgin birth of Tammuz, fathered by deceased Nimrod in spirit.
stone age dont go back past 20000 yrs let alone rediculous 400,000.
your one of the ones who confuse many out there. I am not confused about the time frame, man doesn't go back that far.. there is NO evidence whatsoever of it !
Hi Thomas…….This article really caught my attention.
I wrote about the Hopi’s link to Egypt in my book, and noted their legends linked to Egypt. Same with the Chumash of the Southwest United States. It links to my theory that they created an anceint map of Earth using the night sky to help navigate.
Disgusting behaviour by Greece. History belongs to us all. But here Greece has once again shown what they're made of, the type of character they have. As John Adams, the second President of the United States described them, "The Greeks of this day, altho’ they are said to have Imagination & Ingenuity, are corrupted in their Morals to such a degree, as to be a faithless perfidious Race, destitute of Courage, as well as of those principles of Honor and Virtue, without which a Nation can have no Confidence in one another, nor be trusted by others."
John Adams, 14 July 1783
I hate to break it to you, but White scientists aren't the ones who are doing irreparable damage to Peruvian and Chilean archeological sites. It's the native Peruvians and Chileans themselves, who loot all of the valuable artifacts from every site they can find, leaving the desecrated remains of the brown, chestnut, red, and blond-haired people of the ancient Peruvian and Chilean cultures, which they regard as worthless, strewn all over the desert sands and mountain highlands:
Good - you made your point about how smart you scientists are and how white people belong...everywhere.
But, what do your links and your intellect expunged have to do with how the grave robbing white coats have destroyed yet more corpses, of the indigenous ancestors of my peoples?
the arrogance of the comment and the article itself is freaking disgusting; in its lack of empathy and overt display of lack of responsible conduct for the dead.
this is a shaman stone or thunder stone its part of a 5 stone set I know I have the other 4 stones of this set .. yes it is a treaty stone then they recorded their shaman's death on the stone .. this is not a joke or a hoax's and they should put it back where it came from ... in northern New York there is a old story bout a lost Indian village . that vanished this stone tells what happened to them .. He was a very powerful and feared Mohawk Shaman ...found the other stones when I was 7 . I am 56 now and most of my family is dead or dyeing,,,... don't touch the stone .. I am the only one that can .. if you knew the whole story you would know why ... ..I am 1/3 Mohawk and I have lived my life as a shaman ,, this spirit makes that stupid movie of the Manitou look like a joke . don't look at it , don't touch it ...put it back where it was ...
and yes I can read the stone ... that odd thing under the corn ,the corn is the sign of fall
the Mohawk wolf tribe is the head under that is a front deer leg the sign of the Adirondacks the bend knee shows the high peak and south east to the turtle tribe where the Shaman was most likely born ...
the face down piece of the moon shows how long has past from new moon till they got to where they were going .., two spears side by side mean hunting party and two poles behind them show the families and hunting part were both together . this means the whole tribe is on the move as one group .. that dose not happen often ...the face has its eyes closed . the Shaman has died ...the teepee is big and full that's where the Shaman was born ,he was going home to die , the big hole goes on the thumb and the index finger on top ...the face and how long it took to get there was added after the treaty part , it is read from bottom over the top and down the other side . there are two lines of meaning .. the spin wheel is the tribes talking it means these two tribes knew each other and the Shaman is why ......this is the magic thunder stone of a very powerful Mohawk Shaman and you should put it back ....Now ! this is a bad bad baby . don't play your modern games with his spirit he can turn your nightmares real ...he can kill anyone that touches or their families and friends .. he likes doing that ... he loves suffering and knows how to do that well ...this should not be in public view and any one that looks at it can be link to his spirit ...
this is not some fake ass BS .. your in real danger .. that Manitou in that movie is a total joke this spirit will kill everyone around you first ...a normal Shaman could stop a war just by being seen ...both tribes would run from this Shaman if he was mad ....he was a living nightmare and the future of his tribe with out him they were as good as dead ., ...lol and so well you be if you touch that stone .....the stone egg is not fake . see you have to know the spirit , he cast the 4 stones knowing his tribe would find them and remember him .. but something went wrong and they never came back . they vanished ..thus is the lost village....I would love to bring the stones back together but if this Shaman spirit gets free he will kill everything in sight ...of that stone ... anyone that touches it ...
I saw this egg last night for the first time ...the tool marks on my 4 stones and the tool and bead I have are most likely made by the same Shaman skill level , easy evidence to prove ...the fact the stone tells us the wolf and turtle tribes is prove already ...
most of the thunder stones you see on the web are fake ... I have 4 that are real ...I have only had them out 3 or 4 times in almost 50 years ...
The earliest known, documented, human settlement in the Americas was at Meadowcroft Rock Shelter, west by southwest of Pittsburgh. Meadowcroft Rockshelter, a pre-Clovis site, has been continually inhabited for 16,000 years.
The Nation of INDIA cannot be termed " black" to suit your blinkered prejudiced view of the Nations of the World
Ancient Egyptian Nation did not arise from the "unknown dark continent" to its south.
Nubians are not descended from an unevolved jungle people.
PUNT was beyond the shores of the 'horn of Africa / AFREEKI '. You need to study it's animal kingdom and plant life to understand this.
Here you can navigate quickly through all comments made in any article sorted by date/time.
Denise, your recent post on this thread, is so far the most dumbest and ignorant as it relates to ancient Black African civilizations. By the way, neither did the ancient Black Egyptians, Nubian’s, Puntite’s, Cushites, Aksumite’s and many other great Black African civilizations originate outside of Africa in the “Sub Human” Neanderthal continent known as Europa (Europe). Your ignorance to think that the African continent has a jungle full of Black people without cultures and great civilizations is beyond stupidity, in that it falls to the level of unsanitary toilet waste...All of Africa’s great civilizations came from the SOUTH and moved forwardly to the North.. The ancient Egyptian “BOOK OF THE DEAD” which was approved by all the Egyptian High Priests details EXACTLY where the ancient Egyptians came from: “WE COME FROM WHERE THE NILE BEGAN, AND WHERE GOD HAPI DWELL. AT THE FOOTHILLS OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE MOON”…...hunefer papyrus There are only two mountains in all of Africa that are referred to as “MOUNTAINS OF THE MOON” and they are the Kilimanjaro in Tanganyika, and the Rwenzori in Uganda, and they are both located in East/Central Africa in the Great Lakes area where the first of three “Nile Rivers” began, and it sure isn’t in the Neanderthal sub human continent of Europa, where their 4% neanderthal sub human descendants still dwell in massive numbers. Yes there are Jungles throughout the world and in Africa...It is noted that Europa has many Forests where “DARK AGE” impoverished 99% illiterate people lived while fighting petty tribal wars, many times while being “buck naked” with stolen swords, sticks, and wooden shields, long after the fall of the Roman empire, and Blackamoors came in and rescued these “uncivilized” barbaric savages which led them into what was called the Renaissance period...
All engineering and remainders of their human advancement is lost. We don't recognize what happened in light of the fact that the Mesopotamians took them over and undoubtedly expelled all remainders http://www.domyessaynow.co.uk. This makes it so that history specialists and archeologists can't discover anything that gives us any data on these civic establishments.
The Thunderbolts Project hypothesizes that the ancients lived in a very real fear of the occasional meteor shower, sand, naptha, and other bad thing falling from the skies, but even moreso of frequent lighting strikes, and that ancient lightning storms were literally earth changing events. The Michael Steinbacher did a lot of work on that subject, too.
Are you saying that the Stone Age does not go back 20,000 years or that mankind does not go back that far?
a lot of people have the wrong idea about what thunderstones really are ..in my life time I am the only one I have ever known that found any. there are questions about how to find them and where they come from .. my story I hope will clear these questions up or totally confuse everyone ... sorry
my father & mother took my oldest brother ,me and my youngest brother rock hounding for gem stones ... after finding some . the land owner ask my father if he was going to the Indian dig site , my father said what is that . and the land own showed him a site .. it was a plowed field .. he told my father the near by university had dug there before and did not find much . but now and then pottery would show up in the field . so we ate lunch and the land own left and we started to hunt for pottery . I walked about 8 or 10 ft into the field and just stood there ,. my father told me what happen next .. I looked straight up above me and went into some kind of a mediation trans walked about 4 ft and stopped and bend down on my knees and started running my right hand threw the dirt I never took my eyes off the sky above me ...I picked up something and put it in my left hand .. I then walked about 15 ft away from that spot and did the same thing ,I never look down and then walked to the edge of the field and did it again .. all the time my eyes were looking up at the sky even when I was walking ...the last one ,I walked about 60 ft away and dug down a ft or more deep and found the stone and put it in my hand and walked back to where my father was about 15ft away from him I stopped and my head looked straight forward and i froze like a dead person .. my father had been watching all of this the whole time , he tried to see what was in my hand but I was frozen in my tracks and he could not get my hand open .he then yield to mother telling her I was not breathing , he then started to panic yelling at me and shaking me trying get me to wake up ... I came out of the trans and don't remember any of it ...but when I open my hand there was the 4 black stones .. I don't know how or why ...I know this is how they were found .I was there ,they found me ..did they fall from the sky ..NO ..but I can under stand why people would think that ...they defy modern science and logic .. I under stand this but if you can tell me how this is possible ,I will be just as happy as you are to know ... I don't know what this means .. I don't under stand it .. but that is the truth and that's how they were found ...I most likely have just as many questions as you do about this .. I just don't know the answers ...I have so many questions about this I gave up and put them away and that's where they have been most of the last 50 years this fall....I know it sounds crazy but that's the truth and that's what happened ...that 's nether here nor there ...these are not made by human hands ..they are just as they were the day I found them ...I have no idea what they are made of .. I have been told many theories threw the years , , what do I know about them .. they are some kind of black stone not onyx or tourmaline, they have what looks like fine wire gold running threw out them .. one has what looks like a small diamond chip in it .. very small and very shinny ,they are not machine made ..they are heavy for there size like the weight of black gold ,they have very small pen point pick marks all over them ,more on some then others ...I get light headed being around them and my arms lose feeling if I hold them ...some other people could not touch them at all .. it freak them out ...some did not even like being in the room with them ...
you can not see threw them or even into the them .. they are not perfect they have some scratches and light roughness ...
the wampum bead is made of the same type of stone and is hand made ... the Shaman must have had a source of this type of stone ...or knew where to look for it ...I have a garden with lots of clay and I would have found some of this stone there if it was from clay .. so it most likely is from glacier movement or something like that ... the site was dated to 1685- early 1700's around the time of the lost nation ...and that would be about the time the egg would have been made...coopers falls was founded in 1649 and it had to be 20-40 years after that ... we still don't know if it has anything to do with guiding me to the stones ...? and why me there were 5 people there that day ...?
so lots of questions and lots of more questions
Interesting article but the illustration at the top makes these walls look as big as the Space Shuttle Vehicle Assembly Building. Sorry, the Egyptians didn't build everything as big as the Pyramids. That compromises the integrity of the article. Please replace with a more realistic image of ancient Memphis.
When I first read of modern man mating with neanderthals I thought, “ew”. Then it dawned on me, I’ve mated with modern women and hey, it wasn’t bad!
Hm, someone who "meatball" dug a live tv show including unwrapping the mummy being so concerned about giving remains dignity? Odd sort of thing, that. I guess he likes to revise his own history ad lib.
Purification by immersion in water ritual to prepare.
Ritual communal drink.
Ritual celebration of the death and rebirth of the child of a god.
Mysteries at the core.
Add the virgin birth of Tammuz, fathered by deceased Nimrod in spirit.
stone age dont go back past 20000 yrs let alone rediculous 400,000.
your one of the ones who confuse many out there. I am not confused about the time frame, man doesn't go back that far.. there is NO evidence whatsoever of it !
interesting stuff....
Hi Thomas…….This article really caught my attention.
I wrote about the Hopi’s link to Egypt in my book, and noted their legends linked to Egypt. Same with the Chumash of the Southwest United States. It links to my theory that they created an anceint map of Earth using the night sky to help navigate.
Disgusting behaviour by Greece. History belongs to us all. But here Greece has once again shown what they're made of, the type of character they have. As John Adams, the second President of the United States described them, "The Greeks of this day, altho’ they are said to have Imagination & Ingenuity, are corrupted in their Morals to such a degree, as to be a faithless perfidious Race, destitute of Courage, as well as of those principles of Honor and Virtue, without which a Nation can have no Confidence in one another, nor be trusted by others."
John Adams, 14 July 1783
Cactus Hill, Virginia, about 45 miles south of Richmond has been dated to 18,000 to 20,000 years ago.
I hate to break it to you, but White scientists aren't the ones who are doing irreparable damage to Peruvian and Chilean archeological sites. It's the native Peruvians and Chileans themselves, who loot all of the valuable artifacts from every site they can find, leaving the desecrated remains of the brown, chestnut, red, and blond-haired people of the ancient Peruvian and Chilean cultures, which they regard as worthless, strewn all over the desert sands and mountain highlands:
Looters strip Latin America of archaeological heritage
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/mar/21/looters-latin-america-arch...
Poor Peru Stands By as Its Rich Past Is Plundered
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/08/25/world/poor-peru-stands-by-as-its-rich-...
In Peru, Grave Robbers Vie With Archeologists For Ancient Treasure
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1991-06-23/news/9102250362_1_grave-ro...
Looting
http://huaqueando.blogspot.com/
OK
Good - you made your point about how smart you scientists are and how white people belong...everywhere.
But, what do your links and your intellect expunged have to do with how the grave robbing white coats have destroyed yet more corpses, of the indigenous ancestors of my peoples?
the arrogance of the comment and the article itself is freaking disgusting; in its lack of empathy and overt display of lack of responsible conduct for the dead.
Put them back where you found them and GET OUT!
this is a shaman stone or thunder stone its part of a 5 stone set I know I have the other 4 stones of this set .. yes it is a treaty stone then they recorded their shaman's death on the stone .. this is not a joke or a hoax's and they should put it back where it came from ... in northern New York there is a old story bout a lost Indian village . that vanished this stone tells what happened to them .. He was a very powerful and feared Mohawk Shaman ...found the other stones when I was 7 . I am 56 now and most of my family is dead or dyeing,,,... don't touch the stone .. I am the only one that can .. if you knew the whole story you would know why ... ..I am 1/3 Mohawk and I have lived my life as a shaman ,, this spirit makes that stupid movie of the Manitou look like a joke . don't look at it , don't touch it ...put it back where it was ...
and yes I can read the stone ... that odd thing under the corn ,the corn is the sign of fall
the Mohawk wolf tribe is the head under that is a front deer leg the sign of the Adirondacks the bend knee shows the high peak and south east to the turtle tribe where the Shaman was most likely born ...
the face down piece of the moon shows how long has past from new moon till they got to where they were going .., two spears side by side mean hunting party and two poles behind them show the families and hunting part were both together . this means the whole tribe is on the move as one group .. that dose not happen often ...the face has its eyes closed . the Shaman has died ...the teepee is big and full that's where the Shaman was born ,he was going home to die , the big hole goes on the thumb and the index finger on top ...the face and how long it took to get there was added after the treaty part , it is read from bottom over the top and down the other side . there are two lines of meaning .. the spin wheel is the tribes talking it means these two tribes knew each other and the Shaman is why ......this is the magic thunder stone of a very powerful Mohawk Shaman and you should put it back ....Now ! this is a bad bad baby . don't play your modern games with his spirit he can turn your nightmares real ...he can kill anyone that touches or their families and friends .. he likes doing that ... he loves suffering and knows how to do that well ...this should not be in public view and any one that looks at it can be link to his spirit ...
this is not some fake ass BS .. your in real danger .. that Manitou in that movie is a total joke this spirit will kill everyone around you first ...a normal Shaman could stop a war just by being seen ...both tribes would run from this Shaman if he was mad ....he was a living nightmare and the future of his tribe with out him they were as good as dead ., ...lol and so well you be if you touch that stone .....the stone egg is not fake . see you have to know the spirit , he cast the 4 stones knowing his tribe would find them and remember him .. but something went wrong and they never came back . they vanished ..thus is the lost village....I would love to bring the stones back together but if this Shaman spirit gets free he will kill everything in sight ...of that stone ... anyone that touches it ...
I saw this egg last night for the first time ...the tool marks on my 4 stones and the tool and bead I have are most likely made by the same Shaman skill level , easy evidence to prove ...the fact the stone tells us the wolf and turtle tribes is prove already ...
most of the thunder stones you see on the web are fake ... I have 4 that are real ...I have only had them out 3 or 4 times in almost 50 years ...
The earliest known, documented, human settlement in the Americas was at Meadowcroft Rock Shelter, west by southwest of Pittsburgh. Meadowcroft Rockshelter, a pre-Clovis site, has been continually inhabited for 16,000 years.
The Nation of INDIA cannot be termed " black" to suit your blinkered prejudiced view of the Nations of the World
Ancient Egyptian Nation did not arise from the "unknown dark continent" to its south.
Nubians are not descended from an unevolved jungle people.
PUNT was beyond the shores of the 'horn of Africa / AFREEKI '. You need to study it's animal kingdom and plant life to understand this.
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