Tom - I thought I would share some research on the subject holy stone. The sides make a 26.4 degree angle which is the centering angle in the Ohio Rock. The Holy stone makes a perfect bob for reading the inner dial of the Ohio Rock as it is tilted on its base to read latitude. The 26.4 degree latitude was the sacred latitude of Egypt. The 26.4 degree angle is the main hall slope in the great pyramid. The 26.4 degree angle is the home angle in the lodestone compass. The decalog stone seems to be self explanatory. The stone cup was used as a water level to maintain latitude by marking a line inside the cup that corresponds to the aperture of the sun during the year. The user would fill the cup with water to the proper mark depending on the time of year, place the cup on a rod and point it toward the mid-day sun. If water ran out the navigator was to far north, If it did not run out the navigator was to far south.
New Orleans and other cities are doing the same thing in the US. Tearing down monuments is an attempt to deny people their history and heritage by destroying the proof of their existence. I suggest a quick read of the book "1984."
Sometimes I wondered how our current world could be so empty, where all those beast, dragons, unicorns and so on went. Well now I, as I learn more and more about those things, wonder how they survived in our mythology and collective memory for so long. It's sad that we could not bring them back, how I would love to saw some of those beasts roam wast lands of Siberia, active volcanoes in my country (well "we" had one roughly 160 000BCE).
It's almost like something carried them away and then age of man came and everything changed.
There is really no difference between ISIL and liberal snowflakes taking down statues. They are just as offended as ISIL in their destruction, just no guns or explosives.
May I ask why I feel so much anger from your comment? It's old, and and long dead, why are you so angered by that?
We should not judge ancient times with modern eyes, age of adulthood changed greatly through human history. Wen don't know their definition of old man, how old they were when they started with this practice... Considering one old could be greatly shifted by large portion of population which even did not made it to adulthood and thus those of 30 could be considered old. And so on.
Anyhow this is so long ago that being emotional about that is in my opinion nonsense.
Have you considered that Jews were perhaps not seen in good light back then and as well Mediterranean sea was still hot area, conflicts with Ottomans were present still. In such situation it would create public outrage to show circumcised man as both those groups do it. perhaps people it would consider as something inappropriate. As well ancients statues have foreskins so perhaps because of it as well. Or he did not even knew how circumcised penis looks.
Hi Tom and thanks for the fast reply. I am sure you have your opinion on Ohio mounds and artifacts and I wish you had some photos of my 40 years of research, including the short time with the late B Fell. The Hopewell were here long before the Ohio Rock or the 3 artifacts found in the Newark area. Newark, Ohio is the most northern point of the 100 mile Hopewell road which Brad Lepper has published a book some time back. The Ohio Rock was found in 1977 by my wife at the south end of the Hopewell Road near the Ohio River. This road which is straight and sides lined with 2 foot high stones as well as pave stones has all been destroyed over the years, however evidence still exist as its function. I call it the killing field because it is where larger spear points are found which were used to kill the short legged bison that once were in Ohio. These bison migrated each year from Kentucky and crossed the Ohio River at the three islands near Manchester Ohio. When the Portuguese led by Michael Corte real in 1511 established camp to place a time stone marker to surface at a later date to show some important ancient old world artifacts (including the 3 at Newark, Ohio) that were placed near the rocks location, they altered the cycle of the migrating bison and the food for the Hopewell. Additional items have been found that support this theory and date, however I am not too interested in having amateurs dig up the land for personal collection or story fabrication. Thanks again for answering my post.
The love of money is the root of all evil, Jesus said. Follow the money trail of the wicked which. Hillary, Obamanation, Bush and the list goes on. The ones behind the curtain who created isis.
I have read a lot of descriptions of these texts but none seem to hint or give any explanation anywhere of what that mysterious hand-held ‘bag’ is that almost all of their statues appear to be carrying. And also now that they have published lots of pics of Gobekli Tepe – there they are again ‘handbags’ – 3 in a row- on top of one of the carved pillars. Does anyone have any idea what they represent – it drives me crazy, it’s the first thing i look for in any ancient statue or relief ! We talk about the ‘book of knowledge’ – I am wondring if this is a ‘bag of knowledge’ to them ?
Hello Mr. Smith. The big myth is that the builders of the mounds and pyramids located all around the planet, did this to know when to plant and harvest. I am positive that the Hopi measure the equinox, the solstices, and the half way point between the two. They do not do this to know when to planet or harvest their crops.
To Whom it may concern - The Ohio Rock is a 500 lb sand stone found in Adams County Ohio at the southern end of the 100 mile Hopewell Road. It is a Portuguese time stone that was buried on my farm to show location to something important. As a retired engineer I assure you the Ohio Rock could not have been constructed without the use of the Holy Stone located in Newark. The 26 degrees made from the sides of the Holy Stone was used as a standard to construct the Ohio Rock. In addition to the Ohio Rock to function as a sun dial identified in 1977 by the late Barry Fell it is also a tool for measuring longitude and latitude by the position of the sun and moon at mid-day. I have studied the works of Shively and Horn who detail explain the functions of the Newark sites and the technology of these early people. I have also followed the works of Brad Lepper and Earth Otto as great contributors to Ohio History.
When your destroy a people's history you destroy their identity and culture and you make it easier to assimilate them into your control.
Same mentality that was used on the native Americans, the African slaves, the Jewish during the Holicost
since the Hebrews are known to have come quite often to Egypt (see oral and written tradition = Abraham fled there during a famine, Joseph was sold by his brothers and became very rich there, many Canaanites ( Hebrews as well) invaded northern Egypt and ruled there until their Expulsion (Hyksos period) and Moses was brought up there until he led the Hebrew exodus. (which might be the same Hyksos-kickout story projected into later periods, but embellished and sanitized).
-therefore it's quite probable that the ruling Pharao not only ordered all male Hebrew newborns to be killed (see Moses' survival story) but also forced their already living children into hard labor in order to reduce their number because of the menace those unruly and patently un-egyptian Semite shephards constituted for the already shaky social atmosphere during the forced transition from Poly- to Monotheism. The fact that Moses rigorously imposed the same monotheism as Akhenaten (using the war-god JAHWE instead of ATEN) is another hint pointing to a connection between the 2 religio-social transformations. Even some verses of Akhenaten's hymn to the glorious ATEN were copied word for word by a Hebrew prophet of this time. So we should not be surprised that not only adult Hebrews worked at Amarna.The Old testament mentions the slave work of "brick laying"
The problem is the penetration rate evident on drill cores found in Egypt. This article discusses splitting rock, which is completely different from shaping or drilling. Yes, a wooden wedge and some water will help you split a granite boulder, but it won't help you shape that boulder into an ashlar with sharp corners and flat faces, and it won't help you carve hieroglyphs half an inch deep into the sides of a granite obelisk, and it won't help you drill a four-inch bore into granite with an apparent penetration rate of two or three millimeters per rotation.
This article also doesn't discuss the cut marks in basalt flagstone slabs on the Giza plateau that are obviously the result of cutting too deeply when cutting something else that was sitting on the flagstones. It is hard to believe that someone cutting manually with rope and sand accidentally cut many inches deep into basalt.
There are plenty of other examples, which this article does not address at all. It is absolutely false to say these questions are all answered adequately by primitive tool techniques.
Hi again Derek, I had a rough idea of the sacrifices involved in your line of duty, that and the peace you bring with your being, the least anyone could do is thank you. From the enlightening story you tell, death seems just as compicated as life, if only death were simpler. Take care mate.
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First european is the Cromagnon, and the black africans are a modern postglacial deserts formed phenotypes.
Tom - I thought I would share some research on the subject holy stone. The sides make a 26.4 degree angle which is the centering angle in the Ohio Rock. The Holy stone makes a perfect bob for reading the inner dial of the Ohio Rock as it is tilted on its base to read latitude. The 26.4 degree latitude was the sacred latitude of Egypt. The 26.4 degree angle is the main hall slope in the great pyramid. The 26.4 degree angle is the home angle in the lodestone compass. The decalog stone seems to be self explanatory. The stone cup was used as a water level to maintain latitude by marking a line inside the cup that corresponds to the aperture of the sun during the year. The user would fill the cup with water to the proper mark depending on the time of year, place the cup on a rod and point it toward the mid-day sun. If water ran out the navigator was to far north, If it did not run out the navigator was to far south.
New Orleans and other cities are doing the same thing in the US. Tearing down monuments is an attempt to deny people their history and heritage by destroying the proof of their existence. I suggest a quick read of the book "1984."
Sometimes I wondered how our current world could be so empty, where all those beast, dragons, unicorns and so on went. Well now I, as I learn more and more about those things, wonder how they survived in our mythology and collective memory for so long. It's sad that we could not bring them back, how I would love to saw some of those beasts roam wast lands of Siberia, active volcanoes in my country (well "we" had one roughly 160 000BCE).
It's almost like something carried them away and then age of man came and everything changed.
There is really no difference between ISIL and liberal snowflakes taking down statues. They are just as offended as ISIL in their destruction, just no guns or explosives.
May I ask why I feel so much anger from your comment? It's old, and and long dead, why are you so angered by that?
We should not judge ancient times with modern eyes, age of adulthood changed greatly through human history. Wen don't know their definition of old man, how old they were when they started with this practice... Considering one old could be greatly shifted by large portion of population which even did not made it to adulthood and thus those of 30 could be considered old. And so on.
Anyhow this is so long ago that being emotional about that is in my opinion nonsense.
No, negative.
First punishments for homosexuality we could find in ancient Mesopotamia, it was typically castration. Sometimes execution.
Have you considered that Jews were perhaps not seen in good light back then and as well Mediterranean sea was still hot area, conflicts with Ottomans were present still. In such situation it would create public outrage to show circumcised man as both those groups do it. perhaps people it would consider as something inappropriate. As well ancients statues have foreskins so perhaps because of it as well. Or he did not even knew how circumcised penis looks.
Thank you for sounding like an educator rather than a boastful educated person those types discourage others to learn and or dialogue with others.
Hi Tom and thanks for the fast reply. I am sure you have your opinion on Ohio mounds and artifacts and I wish you had some photos of my 40 years of research, including the short time with the late B Fell. The Hopewell were here long before the Ohio Rock or the 3 artifacts found in the Newark area. Newark, Ohio is the most northern point of the 100 mile Hopewell road which Brad Lepper has published a book some time back. The Ohio Rock was found in 1977 by my wife at the south end of the Hopewell Road near the Ohio River. This road which is straight and sides lined with 2 foot high stones as well as pave stones has all been destroyed over the years, however evidence still exist as its function. I call it the killing field because it is where larger spear points are found which were used to kill the short legged bison that once were in Ohio. These bison migrated each year from Kentucky and crossed the Ohio River at the three islands near Manchester Ohio. When the Portuguese led by Michael Corte real in 1511 established camp to place a time stone marker to surface at a later date to show some important ancient old world artifacts (including the 3 at Newark, Ohio) that were placed near the rocks location, they altered the cycle of the migrating bison and the food for the Hopewell. Additional items have been found that support this theory and date, however I am not too interested in having amateurs dig up the land for personal collection or story fabrication. Thanks again for answering my post.
The love of money is the root of all evil, Jesus said. Follow the money trail of the wicked which. Hillary, Obamanation, Bush and the list goes on. The ones behind the curtain who created isis.
I have read a lot of descriptions of these texts but none seem to hint or give any explanation anywhere of what that mysterious hand-held ‘bag’ is that almost all of their statues appear to be carrying. And also now that they have published lots of pics of Gobekli Tepe – there they are again ‘handbags’ – 3 in a row- on top of one of the carved pillars. Does anyone have any idea what they represent – it drives me crazy, it’s the first thing i look for in any ancient statue or relief ! We talk about the ‘book of knowledge’ – I am wondring if this is a ‘bag of knowledge’ to them ?
It's not real it just faked
Hello Mr. Smith. The big myth is that the builders of the mounds and pyramids located all around the planet, did this to know when to plant and harvest. I am positive that the Hopi measure the equinox, the solstices, and the half way point between the two. They do not do this to know when to planet or harvest their crops.
I tried to explain their creation story in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LjsRGZ7BAQ
and perhaps it will help you with your understanding of the Ohio Rock.
Thank you for the comment and the information. all the best. tom
To Whom it may concern - The Ohio Rock is a 500 lb sand stone found in Adams County Ohio at the southern end of the 100 mile Hopewell Road. It is a Portuguese time stone that was buried on my farm to show location to something important. As a retired engineer I assure you the Ohio Rock could not have been constructed without the use of the Holy Stone located in Newark. The 26 degrees made from the sides of the Holy Stone was used as a standard to construct the Ohio Rock. In addition to the Ohio Rock to function as a sun dial identified in 1977 by the late Barry Fell it is also a tool for measuring longitude and latitude by the position of the sun and moon at mid-day. I have studied the works of Shively and Horn who detail explain the functions of the Newark sites and the technology of these early people. I have also followed the works of Brad Lepper and Earth Otto as great contributors to Ohio History.
When your destroy a people's history you destroy their identity and culture and you make it easier to assimilate them into your control.
Same mentality that was used on the native Americans, the African slaves, the Jewish during the Holicost
since the Hebrews are known to have come quite often to Egypt (see oral and written tradition = Abraham fled there during a famine, Joseph was sold by his brothers and became very rich there, many Canaanites ( Hebrews as well) invaded northern Egypt and ruled there until their Expulsion (Hyksos period) and Moses was brought up there until he led the Hebrew exodus. (which might be the same Hyksos-kickout story projected into later periods, but embellished and sanitized).
-therefore it's quite probable that the ruling Pharao not only ordered all male Hebrew newborns to be killed (see Moses' survival story) but also forced their already living children into hard labor in order to reduce their number because of the menace those unruly and patently un-egyptian Semite shephards constituted for the already shaky social atmosphere during the forced transition from Poly- to Monotheism. The fact that Moses rigorously imposed the same monotheism as Akhenaten (using the war-god JAHWE instead of ATEN) is another hint pointing to a connection between the 2 religio-social transformations. Even some verses of Akhenaten's hymn to the glorious ATEN were copied word for word by a Hebrew prophet of this time. So we should not be surprised that not only adult Hebrews worked at Amarna.The Old testament mentions the slave work of "brick laying"
The problem is the penetration rate evident on drill cores found in Egypt. This article discusses splitting rock, which is completely different from shaping or drilling. Yes, a wooden wedge and some water will help you split a granite boulder, but it won't help you shape that boulder into an ashlar with sharp corners and flat faces, and it won't help you carve hieroglyphs half an inch deep into the sides of a granite obelisk, and it won't help you drill a four-inch bore into granite with an apparent penetration rate of two or three millimeters per rotation.
This article also doesn't discuss the cut marks in basalt flagstone slabs on the Giza plateau that are obviously the result of cutting too deeply when cutting something else that was sitting on the flagstones. It is hard to believe that someone cutting manually with rope and sand accidentally cut many inches deep into basalt.
There are plenty of other examples, which this article does not address at all. It is absolutely false to say these questions are all answered adequately by primitive tool techniques.
Sounds familiar except here they redevelop the sites after.
Hi again Derek, I had a rough idea of the sacrifices involved in your line of duty, that and the peace you bring with your being, the least anyone could do is thank you. From the enlightening story you tell, death seems just as compicated as life, if only death were simpler. Take care mate.
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