Herodotus was not a liar. There are things that he wrote about that were probably lost in translation so to speak but I don't believe that he intentionally lied about anything.
Herodotus himself explains that even he is sceptical of some things he was told. When told that the origin of the Nile was snowmelt from far away mountains he dismissed this as folly.
He wasn't always right, but I think he tried hard to verify most sources.
The article said "The Sandvika burial ground is unique in Scandinavia, and these people are the only ones found with sitting bodies." Unique means the only one. So my remark stands
I was not questioning the amount of earth but the extra depth required. It is easier to dig a fairly shallow hole than a deep one.
And there is no need to be personally derogatory.
Adolph Hitler was, indeed a great believer in The Knights Templar and the Holy Grail, but in the occult as well. Specialized groups of his military, along with scientists were dispatched to many parts of the world to seek out anything which would aid in the Nazi / Aryan agenda. Some of these expeditions are well documented in the history of the period, but I suspect that there were many more whose records were either destroyed or removed prior to the fall of the Reich. The Nazis may very well have discovered the very things for which Hitler searched. We may mever know the truth, but one thing is certain. Hitler conducted what is probably the most intense, well – funded archaeological research project in history.
i never said it was unusual. where did you get that idea. in fact, i implied that it was probably more usual for some cultures to bury their dead upright. and OF COURSE, simple geometry will tell you that you only need to dig about half the dirt to do this. That is not something i need to prove as it is self evident. That you would question it's simplicity tells me how simple you are.
so why was this so unusual, Walter ? If it was so efficient everyone would have been buried that way. Not sure any less earth removal required for upright burial, as you have to go deeper.
What if the Concept of "EUROPE" is a codeword of the Jewish-Latin Conspiracy to invade the North ? It happend from Roman Emperor building the Hadrian Wall at the Scottish border to the actual Massive Invasion of Islamic Folk to Sweden ! Including Spanish Inquisition & Massive Murders of 4500 Saxons by Charlemagne... Welcome on http://GotlandSeminar.SimpleSite.com (refused by the system !?)
I would add that the article follows an ancient thinking that the Aryans, whoever they were, had entered northern India from Iran. This theory is disproved now. Linguistic evidence is very clear about this. The language of the incoming Aryans to India did NOT come from Iran, but rather from a previous precursor language common to both Iranians and Indian Aryans. From a cultural perspective, Iranian culture did not come into India with the Aryans; Indian Aryans had a completely different culture, folklore, legends and philosophy. None of it can be thought of coming from Iran. Iranian culture did indeed come to India, but that happened MANY years later - thousands of years - with the Muslim rulers which came to India - in large numbers after the 12th century AD. So the claim that Indian Aryans came from Iran is a discredited theory and it should be put to rest now. It is not known where they really came from; certainly they traversed central Asia; may have originated in the southern Caucasian mountain region. But they carried into India, a completely unique culture that is of neither Iranian, nor central Asian origin. There are people in India (a rather large number) who do not think the Aryans came into India from anywhere; they were indigenous, and had fanned outward from India than inward migration. Even that theory has been proven wrong by recent genetic studies; unquestionably, a group of outsiders with a distinctly different gene pool did indeed enter India from the outside around 1,500 BC; they were presumably the Aryan that the ancient Indian literature speaks of.
I just came here after watching the movie the Lost city of Z. What an ultimate sacrifice by Mr. Percy fawcett. What a great explorer. But sadly he didn't return back. I hope he is in the arms of the almighty Lord Jesus.
Have you talked with the archaeologists then? Asked what they think? And if the megaliths in Poland are so unimportant, then how can you explain the whole fuss around the megalithic tombs discovered in Dolice in Western Pomerania?
Why is "(Read the article on one page)" not the default?
Why would anyone want to read the article on multiple pages, when they could just read it on one?
All over the walls of ancient Egypt there are paintings depicting the ancient Egyptians and they are black not white, not Arab but black. The bibles says that one of the sons of Ham founded Egypt and well we all know what's said about ham. I'm always wondering why do the ancient Egyptians get played by whites and arabs only. Even with this video game that I just purchased you very rarely see blacks in it. Hollywood is good at casting whites and arabs to play the major roles and blacks to play servants and slaves. Truth be told, it's just straight up racism at play here and it's not cool at all to do this!! People need to know the truth especially the black people so they can know that they do have a history and it's not just slavery. When a person is given something to reach for it gives that person purpose. By know that the history of blacks didn't start with slavery could be all a black child need to get on the path to a better life. When you've been told that your people were slaves and before then lived in mud huts and that's your history, I'm pretty sure that an do some damage to a person's perception of self. All I'm asking is for the truth to be told! The ancient Egyptians were black and it was a lack nation until the Greeks invaded and conquered. And the arabs didn't show up until around 639 ad and have been there pretty much ever since but there are still remnants of those original people, black people in Egypt and it's sounding countries. Let's just be honest for once and give to those what is owed! Thank you! Proof is in the many pictures on the walls and statues that were left behind!
The name Loltun, or Stone Flower, refers to the cave's somewhat unique formation. There are five chambers around a central chamber, forming a what would look like a flower from above, if the top was removed.
Great article, thanks. So datum would be good to establish. There is a Minoan sundial, that a research suggests an eclipse calculator, so circa 1500bce, a precursor to the antikythera mechanism. Imagine the power of being able stop the sun. If you don't do what I say, the sun will go out in tomorrow...
OK, there was a solar eclipse 30 October 1207 BC. The calculations will be correct, I guess. And yes, a stele of pharaoh Merneptah mentions the Israelites in Canaan. But the description in the Bible mentions the sun an de moon in clearly separate positions: "Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the Valley of Aijalon. And the Sun stood still, and the Moon stopped". Maybe the word used for "stop" is the same as the word used for "eclipse", but with the sun and the moon far apart, there is definitively no eclipse possible.
Whatever happened back then, may have been very special, but it was not an eclipse.
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Herodotus was not a liar. There are things that he wrote about that were probably lost in translation so to speak but I don't believe that he intentionally lied about anything.
Herodotus himself explains that even he is sceptical of some things he was told. When told that the origin of the Nile was snowmelt from far away mountains he dismissed this as folly.
He wasn't always right, but I think he tried hard to verify most sources.
4 years! For 4 long years this article has waited for a comment by a reader. What can I say? I am absolutely stunned by its contents. Hence ....
The article said "The Sandvika burial ground is unique in Scandinavia, and these people are the only ones found with sitting bodies." Unique means the only one. So my remark stands
I was not questioning the amount of earth but the extra depth required. It is easier to dig a fairly shallow hole than a deep one.
And there is no need to be personally derogatory.
Adolph Hitler was, indeed a great believer in The Knights Templar and the Holy Grail, but in the occult as well. Specialized groups of his military, along with scientists were dispatched to many parts of the world to seek out anything which would aid in the Nazi / Aryan agenda. Some of these expeditions are well documented in the history of the period, but I suspect that there were many more whose records were either destroyed or removed prior to the fall of the Reich. The Nazis may very well have discovered the very things for which Hitler searched. We may mever know the truth, but one thing is certain. Hitler conducted what is probably the most intense, well – funded archaeological research project in history.
i never said it was unusual. where did you get that idea. in fact, i implied that it was probably more usual for some cultures to bury their dead upright. and OF COURSE, simple geometry will tell you that you only need to dig about half the dirt to do this. That is not something i need to prove as it is self evident. That you would question it's simplicity tells me how simple you are.
I truly enjoyed reading this article and it has given me new thoughts on this pharaoh and his time. Thank you for the information.
so why was this so unusual, Walter ? If it was so efficient everyone would have been buried that way. Not sure any less earth removal required for upright burial, as you have to go deeper.
What if the Concept of "EUROPE" is a codeword of the Jewish-Latin Conspiracy to invade the North ? It happend from Roman Emperor building the Hadrian Wall at the Scottish border to the actual Massive Invasion of Islamic Folk to Sweden ! Including Spanish Inquisition & Massive Murders of 4500 Saxons by Charlemagne... Welcome on http://GotlandSeminar.SimpleSite.com (refused by the system !?)
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I would add that the article follows an ancient thinking that the Aryans, whoever they were, had entered northern India from Iran. This theory is disproved now. Linguistic evidence is very clear about this. The language of the incoming Aryans to India did NOT come from Iran, but rather from a previous precursor language common to both Iranians and Indian Aryans. From a cultural perspective, Iranian culture did not come into India with the Aryans; Indian Aryans had a completely different culture, folklore, legends and philosophy. None of it can be thought of coming from Iran. Iranian culture did indeed come to India, but that happened MANY years later - thousands of years - with the Muslim rulers which came to India - in large numbers after the 12th century AD. So the claim that Indian Aryans came from Iran is a discredited theory and it should be put to rest now. It is not known where they really came from; certainly they traversed central Asia; may have originated in the southern Caucasian mountain region. But they carried into India, a completely unique culture that is of neither Iranian, nor central Asian origin. There are people in India (a rather large number) who do not think the Aryans came into India from anywhere; they were indigenous, and had fanned outward from India than inward migration. Even that theory has been proven wrong by recent genetic studies; unquestionably, a group of outsiders with a distinctly different gene pool did indeed enter India from the outside around 1,500 BC; they were presumably the Aryan that the ancient Indian literature speaks of.
I just came here after watching the movie the Lost city of Z. What an ultimate sacrifice by Mr. Percy fawcett. What a great explorer. But sadly he didn't return back. I hope he is in the arms of the almighty Lord Jesus.
Have you talked with the archaeologists then? Asked what they think? And if the megaliths in Poland are so unimportant, then how can you explain the whole fuss around the megalithic tombs discovered in Dolice in Western Pomerania?
Not black, dna does not support it.
Why is "(Read the article on one page)" not the default?
Why would anyone want to read the article on multiple pages, when they could just read it on one?
All over the walls of ancient Egypt there are paintings depicting the ancient Egyptians and they are black not white, not Arab but black. The bibles says that one of the sons of Ham founded Egypt and well we all know what's said about ham. I'm always wondering why do the ancient Egyptians get played by whites and arabs only. Even with this video game that I just purchased you very rarely see blacks in it. Hollywood is good at casting whites and arabs to play the major roles and blacks to play servants and slaves. Truth be told, it's just straight up racism at play here and it's not cool at all to do this!! People need to know the truth especially the black people so they can know that they do have a history and it's not just slavery. When a person is given something to reach for it gives that person purpose. By know that the history of blacks didn't start with slavery could be all a black child need to get on the path to a better life. When you've been told that your people were slaves and before then lived in mud huts and that's your history, I'm pretty sure that an do some damage to a person's perception of self. All I'm asking is for the truth to be told! The ancient Egyptians were black and it was a lack nation until the Greeks invaded and conquered. And the arabs didn't show up until around 639 ad and have been there pretty much ever since but there are still remnants of those original people, black people in Egypt and it's sounding countries. Let's just be honest for once and give to those what is owed! Thank you! Proof is in the many pictures on the walls and statues that were left behind!
Yeah, there was a lot of jumping to conclusions in this article. Jumping from Athena to Naamah in the bible. And then the centaurs, seth,
He would have to improve the article to be more structured and informative besides: " read these books for proof".
The name Loltun, or Stone Flower, refers to the cave's somewhat unique formation. There are five chambers around a central chamber, forming a what would look like a flower from above, if the top was removed.
Great article, thanks. So datum would be good to establish. There is a Minoan sundial, that a research suggests an eclipse calculator, so circa 1500bce, a precursor to the antikythera mechanism. Imagine the power of being able stop the sun. If you don't do what I say, the sun will go out in tomorrow...
OK, there was a solar eclipse 30 October 1207 BC. The calculations will be correct, I guess. And yes, a stele of pharaoh Merneptah mentions the Israelites in Canaan. But the description in the Bible mentions the sun an de moon in clearly separate positions: "Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and Moon, in the Valley of Aijalon. And the Sun stood still, and the Moon stopped". Maybe the word used for "stop" is the same as the word used for "eclipse", but with the sun and the moon far apart, there is definitively no eclipse possible.
Whatever happened back then, may have been very special, but it was not an eclipse.
unknown hoard until found, but FOLK tales have linked?
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