Oh but there is. The Mid-Atlantic ridge. It stretches from Iceland all the way to North Africa and possibly just beyond. Atlantis capital is at 30 north by 30 west, there are even three structures that are in the same pattern as the pyramids in Egypt with one of them being a series of circles. Randall Carlston pointed out on his podcost a few years back how the archetecture on the Canary Islands to the north are very similar to Plato’s description.
This is not to say there weren’t Atlanteans in the Americas, they were a sea people. in fact, those on the Western side of this continent escaped to the Americas after it sunk. We call them the Atzec. Atzlan is Atlantis.
I always get excited over studies that explore the history of the English language. But my main curiousity is the origen & construction of language via the Alphabet. I know the Egyptians/Phonecians & Romans helped put in place an alphabetical letter system. But I can never find out which organization or who (Oxford? Webster?) authorized the current 26 letter alphabet that we follow today. I envision it as carefully designed cipher...almost alchemical in nature. Im under the impression its alien or has a life of its own. When you pair it with pythagorian numerology it becomes obvious.
The Appalachian mountains don’t surround Florida, they are quite some distance away further north in the eastern USA.
I did once consider the Appalachians/Alleghenies as the mountains of Atlantis when I favoured North America because source says they were once higher than the Himalayas during period of the continental “drift”. But the whole situation just doesn’t match the all of Account’s details.
If the sealevels were lower then the whole continental shelf off east Florida and Georgia/Carolina and Bahamas would have been land. But I couldn’t find any where that that matches all the details either.
I will try to read and consider your articles. But it would also be good if you/others can also read mine. My own Atlantis ebook is in Allempires ebooks (general world history section) ‘Atlantis in the Andes/America’.
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
You brought up some important issues regarding Atlantis and its location. There are also many issues you did not mention. Over all, there are too many questions to answer at once. Instead of trying to answer them at one time, I will post a series of articles here that will eventually answer each and every question. The first few articles are designed to explain how Plato’s story became encoded and how we will go about decoding it. That includes the island of Atlantis with three large canals around it and the hill with the three moats around it. Just to answer one of your questions: Florida is a plain. It is flat and even with no mountains on it. The Mountains Plato was referring are the Appalachian Mountains. They protect the Florida Plain from the cold winter wind that Plato mentioned. In Florida, they get two crops a year. This will help you think outside the box. All of your questions will be answered as we go along. Appalachian Mountains:
I don't agree with Florida being possible.
. No large plain surrounded by "highest" mountains.
. Florida is not an island (except in some early European maps).
Atlantis was not just the plain or just the realm of Atlas and not the other 9 of the 10 kings regions.
Atlantis Account including the large rectangular plain with surrounding ditch and criss-crossing channels,
. big hill dwelling of Clito in the Atlantis Account.
First of all the assumptions that such a discovery would be news worthy are absurd.. the 1st sphinx weathering indicating a much greater age is certainly not "all over the news"... The fact that the pryamids were merely REFURBISHED by khufu are not all over the news either.. or the fact that hebrew lettering were found inside the light shafts of the pyramid(all of which were ao articles) wheres the evidence for all the worldwide pyramid structures being wireless electric generators? Suppressed.. it must be nice to be so optimistic in humanity to believe that what is presented to the public is absolute truth.. but the biggest indicator that there IS a secod sphinx is the fact that these people are so vehement that its a hoax... And is it any wonder? If they found the real emerald tablets.. or another control room like in iraq and romania.. youd hardly hear a word of it.. to paraphrase one of those bankers from the 18th century.." there will come a time when everything presented to the public is a lie.. and noone will believe the truth"
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
Nice piece I enjoyed and some bits you mentioned remind me of what was considered heresy by the Church, that being Dualism.
That is not my main point however, I must point out, and I could be wrong,there are other places where, a similar character is found.
Sowing doubt and discord in Genesis we have the serpent, basically calling God a liar and causing the Fall by tempting Eve to eat the fruit from the tree.
Even closer in resemblance to Mastema is the figure found in the book of Job in which Satan as he is named here is permitted by God to put the faithfulness of Job, a wealthy happy family man to the test, that if all he had were removed he would shun God. So Satan tests him. His family die, he loses his wealth and is striken with illness, if I recall boils. In the end though he maintained his faith in God and was restored with more than he had before
Onto the possible writers of the Book of Jubilees. Could it have been at some point all of the above or maybe a merging of the groups to an extent at a time of trouble...say 70AD the first war with Rome and when The Temple of Jerusalem was destroyed been the Essenes? Would they have worked together, could they have. .I mean would their beliefs\rules allow it?
I have seen many books\articles which seem to suggest Jesus was an Essene...and also one of the Maccabees, in fact the true King. This would if true explain Herod ordering the murder of the infants when he heard about the birth, not wanting a legitimate challenger to ever one day have the chance to knock him from the throne...even if only a newborn.
The possible merging could also have actually given rise to Christianity to a degree. I only wonder this because of how the Catholic Church is so sure he was never married...if an Essene he wouldn't be allowed.
Could that also be the source of the Church itself having rules like priests can't marry and for some a monastic lifestyle, a legacy from their origin?
You edited/changed your post after I posted? It said different before and I did not see the rest of it there before. I aren't/wasn't still searching, as I already found it a few years ago. No offense but I'm afraid I don't agree with Florida being possible. No large plain surrounded by "highest" mountains. No remains of extensive ancient civilisation. Etc. Using codes/corrections seems to me to be changing what the source text says so to make it fit elsewhere. The only code/cryptic in the Account I found for sure is the 9000 years date. Florida is not an island (except in some early European maps). Atlantis was not just the plain or just the realm of Atlas and not the other 9 of the 10 kings regions.
Atlantis city is Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku. The Atlas pillar motif is seen rising from concentric circles (city) in Andean art. The Inca Picture from the Coricancha depicts a number of things matching things in the Atlantis Account including the large rectangular plain with surrounding ditch and criss-crossing channels, etc. There are at least still 1 or 2 concentric circles in the ground in diagrams/maps of Tiahuanaco. The Akapana in the middle of Tiahuanaco matches the small mountain / big hill dwelling of Clito in the Atlantis Account. One of the buildings matches the size of the palace/temple of Atlantis. Tiahuanaco experienced an event described in very similar words to the "flood(s) and quake(s)" of Atlantis' "sinking". Heaps of other details matches which I can't list here.
Hello outsidethebox, your search for Atlantis has ended. I’m taking you to the Lost City of Atlantis. Atlantis was born in North America and its first city was in Tampa Florida. Florida was the plain of Atlantis. The City grew over the plain and spread to Miami. By the time Atlantis was destroyed, Mexico City was the grand city of Atlantis. Read my posts to get the discussion started.
This article was exciting to read I suppose these subjects pertaining to thing's in The Bible tend to garner my interests many times over.
So here is my take on the "Enemy", some Churches not all reference to Lucifer in this manner.
Like God the Father has many name's so to does Lucifer.
It's true when I happily read The Book of Jubilees thanks impart to Google Search, I did read the name Mastema in the context of "The Prince Mastema" now when I read Enoch 2 The Book of the Secret's of Enoch, God of whose presence Enoch stood before called Lucifer/Mastema as Satanil.
Going back too Enoch 1 Book of the Watcher's Enoch arrived in Heaven to consult with The Creator He stood before The Holy Trinity in those Scriptures. Enoch 1 testified too Satans being Denied by other Angel's of entrance too Speak with The Ancient of Days.
I wish not to dwell on the name's of the Enemy so I'll start with God first.
Ashem, Allah, Abba, The Ancient of Day's, The Creator, The Heavenly Father, I AM, Jehovah, The Great Spirit, an Yahweh, I'm certain there are even more name's than even these that I mentioned.
On to the Adversary.
Lucifer
The Adversary
The Enemy
Beelzubub
Old Ancient Serpent of Old- an Renown
Mastema
Satanil
Satan
The Devil
Those are the name's of The Enemy; an like God I am certain there are even more name's for him.
As I don't have all the answers to the Bible an approach The Holy Scriptures as that of a Student so I'm still learning as a Believer what lessons God teaches I do know that Lucifer is referenced as That Old Ancient Serpent of Old an Renown because He was The First one Created.
The indication from the Scripture's is that He was older than all of the other Angel's combine apparently He was a glorious Angel at that from Ezekiel ch. 28 He could walk through Fire Stone's, He was a Cherub which is why he is depicted as having Wing's the Cherub Angels all have wings.
Seraphims mentioned in Isaiah ch.6, Ezekiel ch.1, an Revelation ch.4 has six wing's.
While the article mentions the division of Lucifer's forces one-half in Hell the other of his forces Evil-Spirits numbered 10 too tempt man with going back to that pivotal moment in Jubilees
one must first examine Why of it all, why was The Prince mastema allowed 10 Evil-Spirits too tempt man with?
Jubilees in its own Special Unique way backs Up The Book's of Enoch beginning with Enoch 1 The Book of The Watcher's discovered in 1753 by some Scottish Missonary Jerome Bettis poking around in Ethiopia, (considering this was the Time when The Mid-Transatlantic Slave Trade was at it's peak it did leave me wondering what was Jerome doing there?).
In Earth's History before The Flood the Nephilims/Rephalims were wide-spread all over the Earth due to the 200 Watcher Angel's who fathered them by the Women of The Earth.
God didn't judge these children born of the Angel's for being conceived He Judged them by their own individual Behavior how they Acted. The way these children of the Angel's that lived their Lives was anything but aligned with God's comnand/ God's Law's.
The children were destructive, they were Killers an insatiable bloodlust for Food an War. God punished both the children an their Angel Father's. The Guilty 200 were captured bound in chains an cast into Tartarus where Epistle Jude testifies that they remain in total darkness till Judgement day where they'll be Executed.
As for the Angel's children God punished them too Demons & Evil-Spirits their very natures of these children is that they can't die because of their Angel Father's but they along with their fathers will be Cast in to The Lake of Fire an Will Be No more.
After, Earth was cleansed partly of the Giant's because according to the scriptures in The Old Testament; the Rephalims existed for a little while longer but, the immediate Nephilims were effectively rendered into Diamons or Demons & Evil-Spirit's.
Enter Mastema chaos was wide spread after the flood so the craziest moment in all the Scriptures Mastema Asks of God to surrender 10 Evil-Spirits too tempt People with an send the rest too Hell.
Mastema was more than aware some of the children by the Angel's couldn't be controlled so he likely picked those that could be controlled by Him.
That's why those entities, fallen Angels an Nephilims went too Hell.
So this is my thoughts on the Subject of mastema does anyone besides myself find it ironic mastema Asked God for permission in this endeavor with those 10 Evil-Spirits?
This article was exciting to read I suppose these subjects pertaining to thing's in The Bible tend to garner my interests many times over.
So here is my take on the "Enemy", some Churches not all reference to Lucifer in this manner.
Like God the Father has many name's so to does Lucifer.
It's true when I happily read The Book of Jubilees thanks impart to Google Search, I did read the name Mastema in the context of "The Prince Mastema" now when I read Enoch 2 The Book of the Secret's of Enoch, God of whose presence Enoch stood before called Lucifer/Mastema as Satanil.
Going back too Enoch 1 Book of the Watcher's Enoch arrived in Heaven to consult with The Creator He stood before The Holy Trinity in those Scriptures. Enoch 1 testified too Satans being Denied by other Angel's of entrance too Speak with The Ancient of Days.
I wish not to dwell on the name's of the Enemy so I'll start with God first.
Ashem, Allah, Abba, The Ancient of Day's, The Creator, The Heavenly Father, I AM, Jehovah, The Great Spirit, an Yahweh, I'm certain there are even more name's than even these that I mentioned.
On to the Adversary.
Lucifer
The Adversary
The Enemy
Beelzubub
Old Ancient Serpent of Old- an Renown
Mastema
Satanil
Satan
The Devil
Those are the name's of The Enemy; an like God I am certain there are even more name's for him.
As I don't have all the answers to the Bible an approach The Holy Scriptures as that of a Student so I'm still learning as a Believer what lessons God teaches I do know that Lucifer is referenced as That Old Ancient Serpent of Old an Renown because He was The First one Created.
The indication from the Scripture's is that He was older than all of the other Angel's combine apparently He was a glorious Angel at that from Ezekiel ch. 28 He could walk through Fire Stone's, He was a Cherub which is why he is depicted as having Wing's the Cherub Angels all have wings.
Seraphims mentioned in Isaiah ch.6, Ezekiel ch.1, an Revelation ch.4 has six wing's.
While the article mentions the division of Lucifer's forces one-half in Hell the other of his forces Evil-Spirits numbered 10 too tempt man with going back to that pivotal moment in Jubilees
one must first examine Why of it all, why was The Prince mastema allowed 10 Evil-Spirits too tempt man with?
Jubilees in its own Special Unique way backs Up The Book's of Enoch beginning with Enoch 1 The Book of The Watcher's discovered in 1753 by some Scottish Missonary Jerome Bettis poking around in Ethiopia, (considering this was the Time when The Mid-Transatlantic Slave Trade was at it's peak it did leave me wondering what was Jerome doing there?).
In Earth's History before The Flood the Nephilims/Rephalims were wide-spread all over the Earth due to the 200 Watcher Angel's who fathered them by the Women of The Earth.
God didn't judge these children born of the Angel's for being conceived He Judged them by their own individual Behavior how they Acted. The way these children of the Angel's that lived their Lives was anything but aligned with God's comnand/ God's Law's.
The children were destructive, they were Killers an insatiable bloodlust for Food an War. God punished both the children an their Angel Father's. The Guilty 200 were captured bound in chains an cast into Tartarus where Epistle Jude testifies that they remain in total darkness till Judgement day where they'll be Executed.
As for the Angel's children God punished them too Demons & Evil-Spirits their very natures of these children is that they can't die because of their Angel Father's but they along with their fathers will be Cast in to The Lake of Fire an Will Be No more.
After, Earth was cleansed partly of the Giant's because according to the scriptures in The Old Testament; the Rephalims existed for a little while longer but, the immediate Nephilims were effectively rendered into Diamons or Demons & Evil-Spirit's.
Enter Mastema chaos was wide spread after the flood so the craziest moment in all the Scriptures Mastema Asks of God to surrender 10 Evil-Spirits too tempt People with an send the rest too Hell.
Mastema was more than aware some of the children by the Angel's couldn't be controlled so he likely picked those that could be controlled by Him.
That's why those entities, fallen Angels an Nephilims went too Hell.
So this is my thoughts on the Subject of mastema does anyone besides myself find it ironic mastema Asked God for permission in this endeavor with those 10 Evil-Spirits?
Here’s hoping we never have to go back to being a hunter-gatherer society. Our brains are no longer up to the task. And interesting additional study would be a comparison of modern homo sapiens’ brains with those of current hunter-gatherer societies...
“The newly discovered “so-called” human ancestor had a short, stocky body which was suited for conserving heat (energy) in colder environments. Males of the species weighed around 140 lb (63.5 kg) and measured approximately 5 ft 9 (175 cm) tall. Females weighed about 30 lbs (13.6 kg) less and averaged about 5 ft 2 (157.5 cm) tall.”
And all this from a fragmented skull!? Yup, sure made me a believer; NOT!
Yes Atlantis is in the Americas, but the capital city is in South America not North America. I went through all the world and narrowed down where Atlantis can and can’t be going by the details in the Atlantis Account of “Plato” such as distance, direction, size, etc, and found it can only be in the Americas and not anywhere else. Originally I long favoured North America over South America. But I couldn’t definitely find the site of the capital city and continued to search and later I searched all around the Americas and found there is only one place that matches the large plain and surrounding mountains, the remains of extensive civilisation/cities, etc, and it is in South America not North America. Jim Allen’s website helped/influenced me a little bit in considering South America, though I don’t favour his site for the plain and city. I then searched all around the country in South America and finally found the capital city site which has strong matches with the city of Atlantis. The site is not too far from Jim Allen’s. Though some doubters/skeptics / deniers/critics refuse to accept it because they claim it is too far (though “Plato” and Siculus said Atlantis was most distant), and is not presently sunken (though it did have an event matching the “quake(s) and flood(s)” in the Atlantis Account), and a few other reasons.
I’m not totally sure whether the large island of Atlantis was just/only South America or was South & North America (& Antarctica?)
Atlantis is not in the Atlantic Ocean seafloor. Atlantis was very large (“larger than Asia & Libya”, large plain. highest mountains, many species of animals including elephants, 10 kings regions, number of cities, mines in number of places, lakes, supplied much of their needs, etc), and there has not been found any sunken/submerged large landmass in the Atlantic Ocean seafloor.
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Oh but there is. The Mid-Atlantic ridge. It stretches from Iceland all the way to North Africa and possibly just beyond. Atlantis capital is at 30 north by 30 west, there are even three structures that are in the same pattern as the pyramids in Egypt with one of them being a series of circles. Randall Carlston pointed out on his podcost a few years back how the archetecture on the Canary Islands to the north are very similar to Plato’s description.
This is not to say there weren’t Atlanteans in the Americas, they were a sea people. in fact, those on the Western side of this continent escaped to the Americas after it sunk. We call them the Atzec. Atzlan is Atlantis.
I always get excited over studies that explore the history of the English language. But my main curiousity is the origen & construction of language via the Alphabet. I know the Egyptians/Phonecians & Romans helped put in place an alphabetical letter system. But I can never find out which organization or who (Oxford? Webster?) authorized the current 26 letter alphabet that we follow today. I envision it as carefully designed cipher...almost alchemical in nature. Im under the impression its alien or has a life of its own. When you pair it with pythagorian numerology it becomes obvious.
Who said we're only going to use 26 letters?
The Appalachian mountains don’t surround Florida, they are quite some distance away further north in the eastern USA.
I did once consider the Appalachians/Alleghenies as the mountains of Atlantis when I favoured North America because source says they were once higher than the Himalayas during period of the continental “drift”. But the whole situation just doesn’t match the all of Account’s details.
If the sealevels were lower then the whole continental shelf off east Florida and Georgia/Carolina and Bahamas would have been land. But I couldn’t find any where that that matches all the details either.
I will try to read and consider your articles. But it would also be good if you/others can also read mine. My own Atlantis ebook is in Allempires ebooks (general world history section) ‘Atlantis in the Andes/America’.
Hello njenner, I’m Dennis.
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
Hello AngusMacGregor, I’m Dennis.
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
Hello Willoward, I’m Dennis.
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
Hello Willoward, I’m Dennis.
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
Hello OutsidetheBox,
You brought up some important issues regarding Atlantis and its location. There are also many issues you did not mention. Over all, there are too many questions to answer at once. Instead of trying to answer them at one time, I will post a series of articles here that will eventually answer each and every question. The first few articles are designed to explain how Plato’s story became encoded and how we will go about decoding it. That includes the island of Atlantis with three large canals around it and the hill with the three moats around it. Just to answer one of your questions: Florida is a plain. It is flat and even with no mountains on it. The Mountains Plato was referring are the Appalachian Mountains. They protect the Florida Plain from the cold winter wind that Plato mentioned. In Florida, they get two crops a year. This will help you think outside the box. All of your questions will be answered as we go along. Appalachian Mountains:
I don't agree with Florida being possible.
. No large plain surrounded by "highest" mountains.
. Florida is not an island (except in some early European maps).
Atlantis was not just the plain or just the realm of Atlas and not the other 9 of the 10 kings regions.
Atlantis Account including the large rectangular plain with surrounding ditch and criss-crossing channels,
. big hill dwelling of Clito in the Atlantis Account.
19th century excuse me.. since the edut fuction doesnt seem to work on mobile chrome
First of all the assumptions that such a discovery would be news worthy are absurd.. the 1st sphinx weathering indicating a much greater age is certainly not "all over the news"... The fact that the pryamids were merely REFURBISHED by khufu are not all over the news either.. or the fact that hebrew lettering were found inside the light shafts of the pyramid(all of which were ao articles) wheres the evidence for all the worldwide pyramid structures being wireless electric generators? Suppressed.. it must be nice to be so optimistic in humanity to believe that what is presented to the public is absolute truth.. but the biggest indicator that there IS a secod sphinx is the fact that these people are so vehement that its a hoax... And is it any wonder? If they found the real emerald tablets.. or another control room like in iraq and romania.. youd hardly hear a word of it.. to paraphrase one of those bankers from the 18th century.." there will come a time when everything presented to the public is a lie.. and noone will believe the truth"
Hello Les, I’m Dennis.
I do research on Atlantis and would like to start a discussion about its location. After researching Atlantis for many years, I can now recognize all of the terrain features Plato wrote about. Thanks to internet-maps we can visit all of the places he described. All the information is in the Americas. I am at the forum under Myths and Legends - Atlantis. Join the discussion!
Nice piece I enjoyed and some bits you mentioned remind me of what was considered heresy by the Church, that being Dualism.
That is not my main point however, I must point out, and I could be wrong,there are other places where, a similar character is found.
Sowing doubt and discord in Genesis we have the serpent, basically calling God a liar and causing the Fall by tempting Eve to eat the fruit from the tree.
Even closer in resemblance to Mastema is the figure found in the book of Job in which Satan as he is named here is permitted by God to put the faithfulness of Job, a wealthy happy family man to the test, that if all he had were removed he would shun God. So Satan tests him. His family die, he loses his wealth and is striken with illness, if I recall boils. In the end though he maintained his faith in God and was restored with more than he had before
Onto the possible writers of the Book of Jubilees. Could it have been at some point all of the above or maybe a merging of the groups to an extent at a time of trouble...say 70AD the first war with Rome and when The Temple of Jerusalem was destroyed been the Essenes? Would they have worked together, could they have. .I mean would their beliefs\rules allow it?
I have seen many books\articles which seem to suggest Jesus was an Essene...and also one of the Maccabees, in fact the true King. This would if true explain Herod ordering the murder of the infants when he heard about the birth, not wanting a legitimate challenger to ever one day have the chance to knock him from the throne...even if only a newborn.
The possible merging could also have actually given rise to Christianity to a degree. I only wonder this because of how the Catholic Church is so sure he was never married...if an Essene he wouldn't be allowed.
Could that also be the source of the Church itself having rules like priests can't marry and for some a monastic lifestyle, a legacy from their origin?
You edited/changed your post after I posted? It said different before and I did not see the rest of it there before.
I aren't/wasn't still searching, as I already found it a few years ago.
No offense but I'm afraid I don't agree with Florida being possible. No large plain surrounded by "highest" mountains. No remains of extensive ancient civilisation. Etc.
Using codes/corrections seems to me to be changing what the source text says so to make it fit elsewhere. The only code/cryptic in the Account I found for sure is the 9000 years date.
Florida is not an island (except in some early European maps).
Atlantis was not just the plain or just the realm of Atlas and not the other 9 of the 10 kings regions.
Atlantis city is Tiahuanaco/Tiwanaku.
The Atlas pillar motif is seen rising from concentric circles (city) in Andean art.
The Inca Picture from the Coricancha depicts a number of things matching things in the Atlantis Account including the large rectangular plain with surrounding ditch and criss-crossing channels, etc.
There are at least still 1 or 2 concentric circles in the ground in diagrams/maps of Tiahuanaco.
The Akapana in the middle of Tiahuanaco matches the small mountain / big hill dwelling of Clito in the Atlantis Account.
One of the buildings matches the size of the palace/temple of Atlantis.
Tiahuanaco experienced an event described in very similar words to the "flood(s) and quake(s)" of Atlantis' "sinking".
Heaps of other details matches which I can't list here.
Hello outsidethebox, your search for Atlantis has ended. I’m taking you to the Lost City of Atlantis. Atlantis was born in North America and its first city was in Tampa Florida. Florida was the plain of Atlantis. The City grew over the plain and spread to Miami. By the time Atlantis was destroyed, Mexico City was the grand city of Atlantis. Read my posts to get the discussion started.
Hi All,
This article was exciting to read I suppose these subjects pertaining to thing's in The Bible tend to garner my interests many times over.
So here is my take on the "Enemy", some Churches not all reference to Lucifer in this manner.
Like God the Father has many name's so to does Lucifer.
It's true when I happily read The Book of Jubilees thanks impart to Google Search, I did read the name Mastema in the context of "The Prince Mastema" now when I read Enoch 2 The Book of the Secret's of Enoch, God of whose presence Enoch stood before called Lucifer/Mastema as Satanil.
Going back too Enoch 1 Book of the Watcher's Enoch arrived in Heaven to consult with The Creator He stood before The Holy Trinity in those Scriptures. Enoch 1 testified too Satans being Denied by other Angel's of entrance too Speak with The Ancient of Days.
I wish not to dwell on the name's of the Enemy so I'll start with God first.
Ashem, Allah, Abba, The Ancient of Day's, The Creator, The Heavenly Father, I AM, Jehovah, The Great Spirit, an Yahweh, I'm certain there are even more name's than even these that I mentioned.
On to the Adversary.
Lucifer
The Adversary
The Enemy
Beelzubub
Old Ancient Serpent of Old- an Renown
Mastema
Satanil
Satan
The Devil
Those are the name's of The Enemy; an like God I am certain there are even more name's for him.
As I don't have all the answers to the Bible an approach The Holy Scriptures as that of a Student so I'm still learning as a Believer what lessons God teaches I do know that Lucifer is referenced as That Old Ancient Serpent of Old an Renown because He was The First one Created.
The indication from the Scripture's is that He was older than all of the other Angel's combine apparently He was a glorious Angel at that from Ezekiel ch. 28 He could walk through Fire Stone's, He was a Cherub which is why he is depicted as having Wing's the Cherub Angels all have wings.
Seraphims mentioned in Isaiah ch.6, Ezekiel ch.1, an Revelation ch.4 has six wing's.
While the article mentions the division of Lucifer's forces one-half in Hell the other of his forces Evil-Spirits numbered 10 too tempt man with going back to that pivotal moment in Jubilees
one must first examine Why of it all, why was The Prince mastema allowed 10 Evil-Spirits too tempt man with?
Jubilees in its own Special Unique way backs Up The Book's of Enoch beginning with Enoch 1 The Book of The Watcher's discovered in 1753 by some Scottish Missonary Jerome Bettis poking around in Ethiopia, (considering this was the Time when The Mid-Transatlantic Slave Trade was at it's peak it did leave me wondering what was Jerome doing there?).
In Earth's History before The Flood the Nephilims/Rephalims were wide-spread all over the Earth due to the 200 Watcher Angel's who fathered them by the Women of The Earth.
God didn't judge these children born of the Angel's for being conceived He Judged them by their own individual Behavior how they Acted. The way these children of the Angel's that lived their Lives was anything but aligned with God's comnand/ God's Law's.
The children were destructive, they were Killers an insatiable bloodlust for Food an War. God punished both the children an their Angel Father's. The Guilty 200 were captured bound in chains an cast into Tartarus where Epistle Jude testifies that they remain in total darkness till Judgement day where they'll be Executed.
As for the Angel's children God punished them too Demons & Evil-Spirits their very natures of these children is that they can't die because of their Angel Father's but they along with their fathers will be Cast in to The Lake of Fire an Will Be No more.
After, Earth was cleansed partly of the Giant's because according to the scriptures in The Old Testament; the Rephalims existed for a little while longer but, the immediate Nephilims were effectively rendered into Diamons or Demons & Evil-Spirit's.
Enter Mastema chaos was wide spread after the flood so the craziest moment in all the Scriptures Mastema Asks of God to surrender 10 Evil-Spirits too tempt People with an send the rest too Hell.
Mastema was more than aware some of the children by the Angel's couldn't be controlled so he likely picked those that could be controlled by Him.
That's why those entities, fallen Angels an Nephilims went too Hell.
So this is my thoughts on the Subject of mastema does anyone besides myself find it ironic mastema Asked God for permission in this endeavor with those 10 Evil-Spirits?
Until next discussion everyone, Goodbye!
Hi All,
This article was exciting to read I suppose these subjects pertaining to thing's in The Bible tend to garner my interests many times over.
So here is my take on the "Enemy", some Churches not all reference to Lucifer in this manner.
Like God the Father has many name's so to does Lucifer.
It's true when I happily read The Book of Jubilees thanks impart to Google Search, I did read the name Mastema in the context of "The Prince Mastema" now when I read Enoch 2 The Book of the Secret's of Enoch, God of whose presence Enoch stood before called Lucifer/Mastema as Satanil.
Going back too Enoch 1 Book of the Watcher's Enoch arrived in Heaven to consult with The Creator He stood before The Holy Trinity in those Scriptures. Enoch 1 testified too Satans being Denied by other Angel's of entrance too Speak with The Ancient of Days.
I wish not to dwell on the name's of the Enemy so I'll start with God first.
Ashem, Allah, Abba, The Ancient of Day's, The Creator, The Heavenly Father, I AM, Jehovah, The Great Spirit, an Yahweh, I'm certain there are even more name's than even these that I mentioned.
On to the Adversary.
Lucifer
The Adversary
The Enemy
Beelzubub
Old Ancient Serpent of Old- an Renown
Mastema
Satanil
Satan
The Devil
Those are the name's of The Enemy; an like God I am certain there are even more name's for him.
As I don't have all the answers to the Bible an approach The Holy Scriptures as that of a Student so I'm still learning as a Believer what lessons God teaches I do know that Lucifer is referenced as That Old Ancient Serpent of Old an Renown because He was The First one Created.
The indication from the Scripture's is that He was older than all of the other Angel's combine apparently He was a glorious Angel at that from Ezekiel ch. 28 He could walk through Fire Stone's, He was a Cherub which is why he is depicted as having Wing's the Cherub Angels all have wings.
Seraphims mentioned in Isaiah ch.6, Ezekiel ch.1, an Revelation ch.4 has six wing's.
While the article mentions the division of Lucifer's forces one-half in Hell the other of his forces Evil-Spirits numbered 10 too tempt man with going back to that pivotal moment in Jubilees
one must first examine Why of it all, why was The Prince mastema allowed 10 Evil-Spirits too tempt man with?
Jubilees in its own Special Unique way backs Up The Book's of Enoch beginning with Enoch 1 The Book of The Watcher's discovered in 1753 by some Scottish Missonary Jerome Bettis poking around in Ethiopia, (considering this was the Time when The Mid-Transatlantic Slave Trade was at it's peak it did leave me wondering what was Jerome doing there?).
In Earth's History before The Flood the Nephilims/Rephalims were wide-spread all over the Earth due to the 200 Watcher Angel's who fathered them by the Women of The Earth.
God didn't judge these children born of the Angel's for being conceived He Judged them by their own individual Behavior how they Acted. The way these children of the Angel's that lived their Lives was anything but aligned with God's comnand/ God's Law's.
The children were destructive, they were Killers an insatiable bloodlust for Food an War. God punished both the children an their Angel Father's. The Guilty 200 were captured bound in chains an cast into Tartarus where Epistle Jude testifies that they remain in total darkness till Judgement day where they'll be Executed.
As for the Angel's children God punished them too Demons & Evil-Spirits their very natures of these children is that they can't die because of their Angel Father's but they along with their fathers will be Cast in to The Lake of Fire an Will Be No more.
After, Earth was cleansed partly of the Giant's because according to the scriptures in The Old Testament; the Rephalims existed for a little while longer but, the immediate Nephilims were effectively rendered into Diamons or Demons & Evil-Spirit's.
Enter Mastema chaos was wide spread after the flood so the craziest moment in all the Scriptures Mastema Asks of God to surrender 10 Evil-Spirits too tempt People with an send the rest too Hell.
Mastema was more than aware some of the children by the Angel's couldn't be controlled so he likely picked those that could be controlled by Him.
That's why those entities, fallen Angels an Nephilims went too Hell.
So this is my thoughts on the Subject of mastema does anyone besides myself find it ironic mastema Asked God for permission in this endeavor with those 10 Evil-Spirits?
Until next discussion everyone, Goodbye!
Here’s hoping we never have to go back to being a hunter-gatherer society. Our brains are no longer up to the task. And interesting additional study would be a comparison of modern homo sapiens’ brains with those of current hunter-gatherer societies...
No reason they couldn’t be an offshoot of Viking culture. The Vikings were known to explore extensively.
“The newly discovered “so-called” human ancestor had a short, stocky body which was suited for conserving heat (energy) in colder environments. Males of the species weighed around 140 lb (63.5 kg) and measured approximately 5 ft 9 (175 cm) tall. Females weighed about 30 lbs (13.6 kg) less and averaged about 5 ft 2 (157.5 cm) tall.”
And all this from a fragmented skull!? Yup, sure made me a believer; NOT!
bwa
Yes Atlantis is in the Americas, but the capital city is in South America not North America. I went through all the world and narrowed down where Atlantis can and can’t be going by the details in the Atlantis Account of “Plato” such as distance, direction, size, etc, and found it can only be in the Americas and not anywhere else. Originally I long favoured North America over South America. But I couldn’t definitely find the site of the capital city and continued to search and later I searched all around the Americas and found there is only one place that matches the large plain and surrounding mountains, the remains of extensive civilisation/cities, etc, and it is in South America not North America. Jim Allen’s website helped/influenced me a little bit in considering South America, though I don’t favour his site for the plain and city. I then searched all around the country in South America and finally found the capital city site which has strong matches with the city of Atlantis. The site is not too far from Jim Allen’s. Though some doubters/skeptics / deniers/critics refuse to accept it because they claim it is too far (though “Plato” and Siculus said Atlantis was most distant), and is not presently sunken (though it did have an event matching the “quake(s) and flood(s)” in the Atlantis Account), and a few other reasons.
I’m not totally sure whether the large island of Atlantis was just/only South America or was South & North America (& Antarctica?)
Atlantis is not in the Atlantic Ocean seafloor. Atlantis was very large (“larger than Asia & Libya”, large plain. highest mountains, many species of animals including elephants, 10 kings regions, number of cities, mines in number of places, lakes, supplied much of their needs, etc), and there has not been found any sunken/submerged large landmass in the Atlantic Ocean seafloor.
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