Watch this and you will wonder why the Clovis theory is still taught because it's as dumb as thinking the world is still flat. http://youtu.be/6oGqPc6poS4
Really, are you serious, that's been known for decades. The Clovis theory is basically like saying If we sail west we will fall off the Earth. A woman lost her career cause she found a site in Mexico and the academic community lost their minds and at first she thought she was just pushing the date back another 10,000 years. It ended up being about 500,000 years and was covered up, literally by having a house built over the site while scientists were trying to get a permit to go back. You can find her story on Forbidden Archeaology on YouTube if you don't believe it. In 1909 a Phoenix newspaper wrote about a find in the Grand Canyon that also was covered up. They found Egyptian style mummies and artifacts in a cave on a cliff that people still aren't allowed to go near. When will people wake up and stop believing things that have already been proven wrong?
LOL I remember traveling with my grandparents one time. They had a bit of an argument over which direction to go in northern Colorado. To make a long story short my grandfather ended all of us up in Wyoming! My grandmother had the directions correct the whole time but he wouldn’t listen to her (she had asked for directions when we stopped to get gas). My grandfather finally stopped and asked someone for directions and the guy kind of laughed and asked him if he knew where he was. My grandfather sheepishly replied he did not. The guy smiled broadly and told him he was in Wyoming. I will never forget the look on my grandfathers face LOL. And you should have seen the look on my grandmothers face. She looked like the cat that just ate the bird!! She looked at my grandfather and simply said “Told you so,” and they didn’t speak all the way back down to Denver.
I cannot believe, they really believed the priest was mass trafficking. They must have known it impossible. More likely they found him guilty to remove him from the public eye, in the hope the rumours of grave digging would stop.
I was just wondering if any of the scientists have done any tests to determine if the couple embracing may have been murdered or even buried alive? It just seems odd they would have died together. In my 46 years of living I've only heard of one couple who'ved died at the same time and even they died one day apart.
So... these people can't be lying either? Weren't they also up until recently "in academia"? The instant I read this guy was a creationist, I was even more skeptical of his claims; the creationists I've seen don't like to rigorously test their theories - they just want to prove their beliefs and they discard anything that contradicts them. Grace Hopper once said, don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out. Does this researcher have an open mind about his own creationist beliefs? Somehow I doubt it.
Science is not "merely a consensus" - consensus depends on reproduceability. You imply it's a bunch of people who get in a room and decide on a single opinion out of thin air. That is not science, that's politics. While politics and science are, unfortunately, not entirely separated, the nice thing about the scientific method is, good science and bad science, both of which exist, can be pretty easily told apart.
How do you know that those Inca stones are showing real life and not mythology? How do you know it depicts a "dinosaur" as opposed to some mythical creature based on local lizards, or a stylized representation, like most ancient American art? We've got some decent sized lizards living here in the Americas, some of which, like the alligator, haven't changed for hundreds of millions of years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lizards_of_South_America).
Art lovers and enthusiasts would be wise to put a stop in Patan in their
Nepalese trip itinerary. It's safer to pay just a little and know what you're getting, than go
the free route and roll the dice. The band writes,
records, mixes, and masters their songs inside a basement studio in Glasgow.
With respect, I wish to make a few points from the perspective of a professional geologist. First and foremost, 14C dating (at best) has been proven to be reasonably accurate to date organics of very recent history – to approximately 50,000 years old or less. 14C has a half life of 5,730 years, but is constantly being produced in the atmosphere when cosmic rays interact with 14N. When 14C is produced, it bonds almost immediately with O2, forming Carbon Dioxide and thus stabilizing the radiocarbon – negating any capability of being used reliably to date biological materials of significant antiquity. Otherwise, 14C emits an electron and an electron antinutrino, and neutron in the 14C nucleus becomes a proton, changing the 14C back into 14N (NR). 14C only exists in recent (geologically) organic remains as a consequence of ingestion of vegetable materials. Second, no mention was made in the article of the geological formation in which the fossil was found. K/Ar dating on this formation would give a good baseline for the age of the sediments. The same method used on the stratum directly above the fossil-bearing layer would provide a ‘book-end’ date – assuming original horizontality without overturned beds, the fossil must be older than the stratum which covers the formation member in which the fossil was found. Lastly, the fossil itself. As fossilized material, the original biologics no longer exist. The horn itself has been replaced by silicates (likely) during the process of permineralization – no Carbon remains after replacement. The shape and structure of the horn has been preserved, but not its original chemistry - while originally made of (assumed) Keratin or a Calcium Phosphate/Carbonate, that material did not survive the process of fossilization. It was replaced by silicates during the fossilization process. It seems to me, as a whole upon reading this article, that the author neglected to include corresponding data to support the stated conclusion, electing instead to focus on only one aspect of the evaluation. I mean no disrespect in way, shape, or fashion. A fundamental aspect of any scientific conclusion must include corresponding data which must be repeatable by multiple parties in review. Perhaps this data was removed from the article during the editing process. If it was not, I hope further analysis will be performed and included in the next installment of this review.
I have probably learned more about ancient history in the last two years from this site than
I have my entire life from anywhere else. The articles are diverse enough to cover everything from A to Z. I figure I am already a winner, having found this site.
Thank You Ancient Origins...
Something bothers me, having just read about Hatshepsut being identified by a tooth.
I can put any tooth in a jar with a name on it, and then years later some bright spark will match the tooth with the skeletal remains of somebody, on the basis of DNA.
But the sense of unease in the absentees from the king’s list bothers me, for similar reasons, and then I got to thinking, and it occurred to me that we allegedly identify remains by DNA, and find criminals by DNA, and then convict them of crimes where the DNA is the sole evidence, as with the tooth.
How do we do this? Forensic scientists sample a suspect’s DNA. It can be a number of suspects.
These samples are compared with crime scene evidence and the closest match is it.
However, as here and with the tooth fairy story from the Hatshepsut article, the samples are only taken for comparison from very few people.
There are 6 billion + beings on earth right now. Out of them , if all were sampled in the same way, how many matches would there actually be? How many of us would be found impossibly guilty whilst the real criminal escaped?
Here this list sourced an entire book by Velikovski who rightly pointed out not merely missing kings, but chronological disparities.
Since these people are NOT in the list, the list itself, IF they existed, is invalid. Imagine the British list of reigning monarchs completely omitting Henry the Eigth and Queen Elizabeth the First, and ALL written records of them being completely destroyed. Or every record of Hitler and Nazism vanishing.
Isn’t it high time somebody asked a few pertinent questions, instead of putting it down to time and predjudices (our own)?
The mentioning in water of most of these stories shows how heavily humans have relied on water throughout history, even though they did not always use it for drinking (in ancient cultures such as Mesopotamia and Egypt, beer was the primary source of drinking fluid) but it was used for fishing or for other various uses. These stories that explain why people are around involve water so often because a majority or cities or villages live near some form of water both in ancient times and modern times (Chicago on Lake Michigan, New York on tthe Hudson River etc.). This reliance on water as not only a drink, but as an energy source show how much we really need it, which could be why there has been such an abundant amount of hydropowered dams being built across the world, with China leading the field, especially with the Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River. The fact that these creation stories are formed with water points to the fact that even ancient peoples realized that life on Earth would be nonexistant without water
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I am a Pagan and the Norse Tradition has always fascinated me... ^_^
Watch this and you will wonder why the Clovis theory is still taught because it's as dumb as thinking the world is still flat.
http://youtu.be/6oGqPc6poS4
Really, are you serious, that's been known for decades. The Clovis theory is basically like saying If we sail west we will fall off the Earth. A woman lost her career cause she found a site in Mexico and the academic community lost their minds and at first she thought she was just pushing the date back another 10,000 years. It ended up being about 500,000 years and was covered up, literally by having a house built over the site while scientists were trying to get a permit to go back. You can find her story on Forbidden Archeaology on YouTube if you don't believe it. In 1909 a Phoenix newspaper wrote about a find in the Grand Canyon that also was covered up. They found Egyptian style mummies and artifacts in a cave on a cliff that people still aren't allowed to go near. When will people wake up and stop believing things that have already been proven wrong?
LOL I remember traveling with my grandparents one time. They had a bit of an argument over which direction to go in northern Colorado. To make a long story short my grandfather ended all of us up in Wyoming! My grandmother had the directions correct the whole time but he wouldn’t listen to her (she had asked for directions when we stopped to get gas). My grandfather finally stopped and asked someone for directions and the guy kind of laughed and asked him if he knew where he was. My grandfather sheepishly replied he did not. The guy smiled broadly and told him he was in Wyoming. I will never forget the look on my grandfathers face LOL. And you should have seen the look on my grandmothers face. She looked like the cat that just ate the bird!! She looked at my grandfather and simply said “Told you so,” and they didn’t speak all the way back down to Denver.
here it comes... a crazy Israel vs. Palestine rant in 3,2,1...
I cannot believe, they really believed the priest was mass trafficking. They must have known it impossible. More likely they found him guilty to remove him from the public eye, in the hope the rumours of grave digging would stop.
I think they laid down the boogie and played that funky music till they died.....
Shamsheer means sword in farsi
I was just wondering if any of the scientists have done any tests to determine if the couple embracing may have been murdered or even buried alive? It just seems odd they would have died together. In my 46 years of living I've only heard of one couple who'ved died at the same time and even they died one day apart.
So... these people can't be lying either? Weren't they also up until recently "in academia"? The instant I read this guy was a creationist, I was even more skeptical of his claims; the creationists I've seen don't like to rigorously test their theories - they just want to prove their beliefs and they discard anything that contradicts them. Grace Hopper once said, don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out. Does this researcher have an open mind about his own creationist beliefs? Somehow I doubt it.
Science is not "merely a consensus" - consensus depends on reproduceability. You imply it's a bunch of people who get in a room and decide on a single opinion out of thin air. That is not science, that's politics. While politics and science are, unfortunately, not entirely separated, the nice thing about the scientific method is, good science and bad science, both of which exist, can be pretty easily told apart.
How do you know that those Inca stones are showing real life and not mythology? How do you know it depicts a "dinosaur" as opposed to some mythical creature based on local lizards, or a stylized representation, like most ancient American art? We've got some decent sized lizards living here in the Americas, some of which, like the alligator, haven't changed for hundreds of millions of years (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lizards_of_South_America).
Art lovers and enthusiasts would be wise to put a stop in Patan in their
Nepalese trip itinerary. It's safer to pay just a little and know what you're getting, than go
the free route and roll the dice. The band writes,
records, mixes, and masters their songs inside a basement studio in Glasgow.
Hi Angie, from the number of entries linked to your username it looks like that was counted.
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With respect, I wish to make a few points from the perspective of a professional geologist. First and foremost, 14C dating (at best) has been proven to be reasonably accurate to date organics of very recent history – to approximately 50,000 years old or less. 14C has a half life of 5,730 years, but is constantly being produced in the atmosphere when cosmic rays interact with 14N. When 14C is produced, it bonds almost immediately with O2, forming Carbon Dioxide and thus stabilizing the radiocarbon – negating any capability of being used reliably to date biological materials of significant antiquity. Otherwise, 14C emits an electron and an electron antinutrino, and neutron in the 14C nucleus becomes a proton, changing the 14C back into 14N (NR). 14C only exists in recent (geologically) organic remains as a consequence of ingestion of vegetable materials. Second, no mention was made in the article of the geological formation in which the fossil was found. K/Ar dating on this formation would give a good baseline for the age of the sediments. The same method used on the stratum directly above the fossil-bearing layer would provide a ‘book-end’ date – assuming original horizontality without overturned beds, the fossil must be older than the stratum which covers the formation member in which the fossil was found. Lastly, the fossil itself. As fossilized material, the original biologics no longer exist. The horn itself has been replaced by silicates (likely) during the process of permineralization – no Carbon remains after replacement. The shape and structure of the horn has been preserved, but not its original chemistry - while originally made of (assumed) Keratin or a Calcium Phosphate/Carbonate, that material did not survive the process of fossilization. It was replaced by silicates during the fossilization process. It seems to me, as a whole upon reading this article, that the author neglected to include corresponding data to support the stated conclusion, electing instead to focus on only one aspect of the evaluation. I mean no disrespect in way, shape, or fashion. A fundamental aspect of any scientific conclusion must include corresponding data which must be repeatable by multiple parties in review. Perhaps this data was removed from the article during the editing process. If it was not, I hope further analysis will be performed and included in the next installment of this review.
I have probably learned more about ancient history in the last two years from this site than
I have my entire life from anywhere else. The articles are diverse enough to cover everything from A to Z. I figure I am already a winner, having found this site.
Thank You Ancient Origins...
http://www.answers.com/Q/How_accurate_is_DNA_evidence
Something bothers me, having just read about Hatshepsut being identified by a tooth.
I can put any tooth in a jar with a name on it, and then years later some bright spark will match the tooth with the skeletal remains of somebody, on the basis of DNA.
But the sense of unease in the absentees from the king’s list bothers me, for similar reasons, and then I got to thinking, and it occurred to me that we allegedly identify remains by DNA, and find criminals by DNA, and then convict them of crimes where the DNA is the sole evidence, as with the tooth.
How do we do this? Forensic scientists sample a suspect’s DNA. It can be a number of suspects.
These samples are compared with crime scene evidence and the closest match is it.
However, as here and with the tooth fairy story from the Hatshepsut article, the samples are only taken for comparison from very few people.
There are 6 billion + beings on earth right now. Out of them , if all were sampled in the same way, how many matches would there actually be? How many of us would be found impossibly guilty whilst the real criminal escaped?
Here this list sourced an entire book by Velikovski who rightly pointed out not merely missing kings, but chronological disparities.
Since these people are NOT in the list, the list itself, IF they existed, is invalid. Imagine the British list of reigning monarchs completely omitting Henry the Eigth and Queen Elizabeth the First, and ALL written records of them being completely destroyed. Or every record of Hitler and Nazism vanishing.
Isn’t it high time somebody asked a few pertinent questions, instead of putting it down to time and predjudices (our own)?
Viking customs and tales of Odín in specific have always captivated me. Can't wait for more to come!
The mentioning in water of most of these stories shows how heavily humans have relied on water throughout history, even though they did not always use it for drinking (in ancient cultures such as Mesopotamia and Egypt, beer was the primary source of drinking fluid) but it was used for fishing or for other various uses. These stories that explain why people are around involve water so often because a majority or cities or villages live near some form of water both in ancient times and modern times (Chicago on Lake Michigan, New York on tthe Hudson River etc.). This reliance on water as not only a drink, but as an energy source show how much we really need it, which could be why there has been such an abundant amount of hydropowered dams being built across the world, with China leading the field, especially with the Three Gorges Dam on the Yangtze River. The fact that these creation stories are formed with water points to the fact that even ancient peoples realized that life on Earth would be nonexistant without water
but not reconstruct the artefacts i hope
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