Goodness, Helena sure was a whiz at finding things. Hundreds of years after the events supposedly happened, even. Wish I had her around in the mornings to help me find my keys. Although the keys she’d turn up with probably wouldn’t start my car. ;)
The quotation: "Creation myths always have some basis in truth" seems to keep ringing true. Although the ugly truths inherent in human sexual lasciviousness unbridled by civil law and individual personal integrity tend to have brought down many great empires over and over. Then 'sacred' descriptions of a people's 'evolution in progress' get editted to avoid provoking firey backlashes, probably because of all the deseases in the aftermath. The survivors write the revised copies, don't they?
Maybe you're right. If I'm correct the inquisition in the Netherlands was more or less directly directed by the King himself (first Charles V and later Philips II) and less by the Roman Catholic authorities, which makes it a political thing - at least partly. But at the same time it is well known that especially King Philips II was a VERY devout catholic so his motivation probably was religion rather than politics.
Gomata was not killed as he was a descendent of Zoroaster whole or part of the tribe was transplanted family was sent to India Shadodan was Indian born
Time and distance are not separated if a reoccurring heavenly (in the skies) astral event were to have been observed across the skies by different geological groups of people.
If a “Venus” image were to have been witnessed in the high altitude of the sky, this image would have been viewed by people many distances or today, countries away from each other. That might explain the great distances of a similar artefact showing up throughout much of Europe.
The possible reoccurrence of the “Venus” image seen again and again in the skies recurring over thousands of years is a conceivable reason that these statues continued to be created – displaying similar characteristics found in the “Venus” statues and in ancient rock-art persisting from at least at least 35,000 years ago.
To infer the many theories from scholared sages including possible cults or a representation of a goddess is guesswork based upon our beliefs and influences with no scientific data to confirm these biased (maybe correct) opinions.
The “Venus” features are similar to known high energy plasma characteristics. (google: high energy plasma characteristics)
Recently these same “Venus” features displaying buxom curvaceous bodies lacking arms and feet, were observed (by me), in uncommon cloud formations of that day. In these type of clouds, the perceived “Venus” image may only be observable in this form from a few seconds to maybe 1 minute or so due to the lack of an intense electrical charge held in these cloud formation and its continued morphing.
The clouds clearly showed the same characteristics, small head or lack of one, legs tapering with no feet, extreme buxom shape.
While some of the ancient “Venus” statues might have been elevated to a higher purpose, we don’t know that as factual.
What I’m putting forth in a brief reply, is that by using scientific observations that are repeatable and documented, there is no surprise to the many “Venus” type adorants or statues spread across Europe that have been recovered from our ancient past.
No, I think the Zimbabwe experiment, according to Sumerian records of the Annunaki invasion, occurred around 2o0,000 years ago, with Annunaki contingents of gold miners that came here from Orion and Nibiru. It occurred waaaay before the Flood of Noah's day.
Nobody is suggesting that all of anthropology is in on a cover up. What they are suggesting is that there is and has been a cover up by a small group of very influential people and institutions. We also suggest that mainstream academic anthropology and archaeology is not nearly as 'scientific' as the members of that community would like to believe. You people assume models you've been handed by your high priests are established fact, when they are in fact just models, and there is enormous physical evidence which contradicts your models. If you're interested in really challenging your beliefs, I'd recommend this book on the subject: http://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Giants-Who-Ruled-America/dp/1591431719/ref...
I was commenting on the article not your view on history, Ab. Anyway at the core of my point was the fact that the Spanish Inquisition and it's “regional office” in the province of the Netherlands, was primarily a religious mechanism used by the Spanish monarchs is not wrong. Interestingly, there is one case in Northern Spain where an inquisitor unwittingly sparked an episode of Witch Hysteria, similar to the Salem witch trials. The representatives of the local bishops were appalled and stopped the inquisition. The laws governing witness testimony were altered to try and prevent reoccurances. There is a common error of conception where the papacy is treated as a simple autocracy and this negates the actions of local church structures where bishops acted off their own authority. Kings regularly thought that going through Rome would get them what they wanted without realising that there were plenty of things that the Pope couldn't control.
Very interesting. I’d never thought of the possibility of this type of ‘decoration’ on pottery being symbolic representation. I wonder if there are any similar pots that could be compared?
In Georgia on tibee island in the sand dunes are Giants with red hair a quick Google will lead to a real news paper article from the late 1800s now it's fenced off for safety reasons in for bird eggs or so they say out side Cheyenne wyoming in table mountain a rancher found giant skulls
You are absolutely right on that. Even the ones I saw had a hole in the center for a wooden or metal shaft axle. But if you continue looking at the second picture for some time it gives you the feeling that it was rolling in a groove for quite some time to get the almost perfect taper to the edge from a flat center.The depth of the groove would be equal to the distance from the edge to the starting of the taper.
So how it was rolled around in the groove ? what purpose did it serve ? and why was it found in a mining area ? we can only speculate until somebody finds more clues around the place where these discs were found. Hope they do so soon!!
Hi Shani, Rumpelstiltskin is thought to have originated in Germany and is one of the characters from the famed Brothers Grimm. Some say that the basis for the devious elf from their tale can be dated back to the 1500s. While there are some similarities with tricskter leprechauns (such as having a moral to the story – in this case to not be a braggart), it is more likely the two were not really connected except perhaps by the “collective unconscious.”
Edit: and if you want to know the origin of all the ancient Middle Eastern religions... According to the Middle Eastern languages expert John Allegro they all go back to a Sumerian fertility cult/religion. (As you probably know the Sumerians were the first culture of farmers that established a stable urban culture). In their religion a male Heaven-god 'inpregnated' with his semen (rain and dew) a female Earth-goddes so she could bear fruit. All disclosed in John Allegro's book: The sacred mushroom and the cross. In a pdf file on the internet: https://ahcult.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-sacred-mushroom-and-the-c...
Thank you Dean and Franlee for sharing your stories. I hope other readers who have had experiences such as yours will post them as well.
To ‘unknown’ the mechanics of reincarnation (if I understand your question correctly) are often said to be based on karma and/or lesson learning and/or soul evolution with the background idea being that a soul is trying to ”improve/better itself” through each incarnation. There are debates about who and what a human soul can reincarnate into. Some believe that all sentient beings are options, other say not possible. There is also dispute on if a soul can “go back” or be “punished” for mistakes or no. Finally, the “end goal” of reincarnation is also uncertain with differing views on this as well.
There is definitely a lot open to interpretation and personal or spiritual beliefs on this theme...
Hi Guys
I found long time ago a disk like it, but smaller (as my hand) within the rock in the top of mountain of Queen Valley, near Hatshepsut Temple Queen. Then I saw a similar formation of this disk inside of some Russian tunnel of mines very similar (like UFO shaped). Can be residues of a drill machine that carve rock ? My Photo is unable to download in your comments space. If you want, ask me to send a part. Cheers.
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Goodness, Helena sure was a whiz at finding things. Hundreds of years after the events supposedly happened, even. Wish I had her around in the mornings to help me find my keys. Although the keys she’d turn up with probably wouldn’t start my car. ;)
The quotation: "Creation myths always have some basis in truth" seems to keep ringing true. Although the ugly truths inherent in human sexual lasciviousness unbridled by civil law and individual personal integrity tend to have brought down many great empires over and over. Then 'sacred' descriptions of a people's 'evolution in progress' get editted to avoid provoking firey backlashes, probably because of all the deseases in the aftermath. The survivors write the revised copies, don't they?
Maybe you're right. If I'm correct the inquisition in the Netherlands was more or less directly directed by the King himself (first Charles V and later Philips II) and less by the Roman Catholic authorities, which makes it a political thing - at least partly. But at the same time it is well known that especially King Philips II was a VERY devout catholic so his motivation probably was religion rather than politics.
Who knows if the hieroglyphics was even caved only a few hundred years ago?
Great article, I’m glad to see Zakaria Bziker writing for AO. I’ve read his work elsewhere and it’s very persuasive.
Gomata was not killed as he was a descendent of Zoroaster whole or part of the tribe was transplanted family was sent to India Shadodan was Indian born
Time and distance are not separated if a reoccurring heavenly (in the skies) astral event were to have been observed across the skies by different geological groups of people.
If a “Venus” image were to have been witnessed in the high altitude of the sky, this image would have been viewed by people many distances or today, countries away from each other. That might explain the great distances of a similar artefact showing up throughout much of Europe.
The possible reoccurrence of the “Venus” image seen again and again in the skies recurring over thousands of years is a conceivable reason that these statues continued to be created – displaying similar characteristics found in the “Venus” statues and in ancient rock-art persisting from at least at least 35,000 years ago.
To infer the many theories from scholared sages including possible cults or a representation of a goddess is guesswork based upon our beliefs and influences with no scientific data to confirm these biased (maybe correct) opinions.
The “Venus” features are similar to known high energy plasma characteristics. (google: high energy plasma characteristics)
Recently these same “Venus” features displaying buxom curvaceous bodies lacking arms and feet, were observed (by me), in uncommon cloud formations of that day. In these type of clouds, the perceived “Venus” image may only be observable in this form from a few seconds to maybe 1 minute or so due to the lack of an intense electrical charge held in these cloud formation and its continued morphing.
The clouds clearly showed the same characteristics, small head or lack of one, legs tapering with no feet, extreme buxom shape.
While some of the ancient “Venus” statues might have been elevated to a higher purpose, we don’t know that as factual.
What I’m putting forth in a brief reply, is that by using scientific observations that are repeatable and documented, there is no surprise to the many “Venus” type adorants or statues spread across Europe that have been recovered from our ancient past.
No, I think the Zimbabwe experiment, according to Sumerian records of the Annunaki invasion, occurred around 2o0,000 years ago, with Annunaki contingents of gold miners that came here from Orion and Nibiru. It occurred waaaay before the Flood of Noah's day.
Nobody is suggesting that all of anthropology is in on a cover up. What they are suggesting is that there is and has been a cover up by a small group of very influential people and institutions. We also suggest that mainstream academic anthropology and archaeology is not nearly as 'scientific' as the members of that community would like to believe. You people assume models you've been handed by your high priests are established fact, when they are in fact just models, and there is enormous physical evidence which contradicts your models. If you're interested in really challenging your beliefs, I'd recommend this book on the subject: http://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Giants-Who-Ruled-America/dp/1591431719/ref...
Most egyptoligists are not interested in disturbing the conventional wisdom and the Egyptian governmenment is only interested in gold for the museum.
I was commenting on the article not your view on history, Ab. Anyway at the core of my point was the fact that the Spanish Inquisition and it's “regional office” in the province of the Netherlands, was primarily a religious mechanism used by the Spanish monarchs is not wrong. Interestingly, there is one case in Northern Spain where an inquisitor unwittingly sparked an episode of Witch Hysteria, similar to the Salem witch trials. The representatives of the local bishops were appalled and stopped the inquisition. The laws governing witness testimony were altered to try and prevent reoccurances. There is a common error of conception where the papacy is treated as a simple autocracy and this negates the actions of local church structures where bishops acted off their own authority. Kings regularly thought that going through Rome would get them what they wanted without realising that there were plenty of things that the Pope couldn't control.
Very interesting. I’d never thought of the possibility of this type of ‘decoration’ on pottery being symbolic representation. I wonder if there are any similar pots that could be compared?
Thanks for the article!
In Georgia on tibee island in the sand dunes are Giants with red hair a quick Google will lead to a real news paper article from the late 1800s now it's fenced off for safety reasons in for bird eggs or so they say out side Cheyenne wyoming in table mountain a rancher found giant skulls
Very interesting article I have heard about similar discs found in north in South America Can't help but wonder why this is not all over the news
You are absolutely right on that. Even the ones I saw had a hole in the center for a wooden or metal shaft axle. But if you continue looking at the second picture for some time it gives you the feeling that it was rolling in a groove for quite some time to get the almost perfect taper to the edge from a flat center.The depth of the groove would be equal to the distance from the edge to the starting of the taper.
So how it was rolled around in the groove ? what purpose did it serve ? and why was it found in a mining area ? we can only speculate until somebody finds more clues around the place where these discs were found. Hope they do so soon!!
Hi Shani, Rumpelstiltskin is thought to have originated in Germany and is one of the characters from the famed Brothers Grimm. Some say that the basis for the devious elf from their tale can be dated back to the 1500s. While there are some similarities with tricskter leprechauns (such as having a moral to the story – in this case to not be a braggart), it is more likely the two were not really connected except perhaps by the “collective unconscious.”
Edit: and if you want to know the origin of all the ancient Middle Eastern religions... According to the Middle Eastern languages expert John Allegro they all go back to a Sumerian fertility cult/religion. (As you probably know the Sumerians were the first culture of farmers that established a stable urban culture). In their religion a male Heaven-god 'inpregnated' with his semen (rain and dew) a female Earth-goddes so she could bear fruit. All disclosed in John Allegro's book: The sacred mushroom and the cross. In a pdf file on the internet:
https://ahcult.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/the-sacred-mushroom-and-the-c...
Thank you Dean and Franlee for sharing your stories. I hope other readers who have had experiences such as yours will post them as well.
To ‘unknown’ the mechanics of reincarnation (if I understand your question correctly) are often said to be based on karma and/or lesson learning and/or soul evolution with the background idea being that a soul is trying to ”improve/better itself” through each incarnation. There are debates about who and what a human soul can reincarnate into. Some believe that all sentient beings are options, other say not possible. There is also dispute on if a soul can “go back” or be “punished” for mistakes or no. Finally, the “end goal” of reincarnation is also uncertain with differing views on this as well.
There is definitely a lot open to interpretation and personal or spiritual beliefs on this theme...
It’s a given that susceptibility is a factor. How does that make what I said half true?
Hi Guys
I found long time ago a disk like it, but smaller (as my hand) within the rock in the top of mountain of Queen Valley, near Hatshepsut Temple Queen. Then I saw a similar formation of this disk inside of some Russian tunnel of mines very similar (like UFO shaped). Can be residues of a drill machine that carve rock ? My Photo is unable to download in your comments space. If you want, ask me to send a part. Cheers.
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