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Aeneas carrying his father Anchises from the burning city of Troy’ (1627-1664) by Daniel van Heil. Details in the Iliad cast doubt on the generally accepted location of Troy. Source: Public Domain

Homer’s Iliad Casts Doubt on the Aegean Location of Troy


Historian Bernard Jones has spent more than three decades researching the ‘Story of Troy’ and he maintains that Homer’s Iliad is the greatest reference work on the Bronze Age world. Homer describes with great accuracy an infinite number of matters relating to the natural world and the environment of the Greeks and Trojans. He gives flawless accounts of the oceans and the climate, the landscapes, the people and cultures. Bernard says that there is a wealth of evidence in the Iliad to be used in investigating the story of Troy. What Homer tells us however, casts doubt on the opinion that Bronze Age Troy was in the Aegean.

Looking Past the War Stories

Homer gives detailed information on an infinite number of matters relating to the natural world in which he lived. It is quite likely though that when reading the Iliad for the first time many people may not even notice the information because it is embodied in the text in very subtle ways and is easily missed. From the outset it is undoubtedly the battle scenes that impress themselves on the mind.

The enormity of the war, the vast numbers of ships and men and chariots and horses, the violence of battle, the never-ending struggle for glory, the brutality, death, blood, and gore. It is overwhelming. Under such a bombardment it is impossible to take in the many microscopic and beautiful details of the natural world that present themselves fleetingly through the carnage of the battlefield. Even after two, three, or four readings of the Iliad many of these details can still be missed.

Iliad VIII 245-253 in codex F205 (Milan, Biblioteca Ambrosiana), late 5th or early 6th c. AD. (Public Domain)

Iliad VIII 245-253 in codex F205 (Milan, Biblioteca Ambrosiana), late 5th or early 6th c. AD. (Public Domain)

Throughout the Iliad Homer describes the seas as being salty. He uses the terms ‘grey’ sea and ‘wine-dark’ sea, the ‘sounding’ sea, and the ‘roaring’ sea. He tells us of the black rollers which pile up seaweed all along the beach, the grey and thundering surf, and the hissing waves. He describes squalls, choppy seas, and the storm-tossed sea when billows tumble over the bulwarks of a ship.

He also tells us that the much-traveled seagoing ships of the Achaeans were fast ‘salt-watercraft’, and when they reached land the sailors cast anchors and made the hawsers fast. The picture that emerges from the Iliad is unambiguous. It is a picture of a sea that is continually in tumult, and the predominant color is grey. These are accurate descriptions for the Atlantic but not for the Mediterranean.

Sea scene from the Odyssey of Odysseus and Polyphemus (1896) by Arnold Böcklin. (Public Domain)

Sea scene from the Odyssey of Odysseus and Polyphemus (1896) by Arnold Böcklin. (Public Domain)

Weather and Geographical Factors

Of course, it is not only the sea that Homer describes in the Iliad. He gives an account of the weather in such detail that any reader could be forgiven for thinking that the Trojan War must have taken place in the North Sea. He tells us of dark clouds, blustering winds, the thunder-laden sky, heavy rain and winter torrents. There is fog, chilling hail, and mist which is so thick that ‘a man can see no further than he can heave a rock’. Surprisingly, he describes snow by comparing it to the stones being thrown by the Achaeans and Trojans in the thick of battle:

“Stones were falling thick as snowflakes on a winter day when Zeus the thinker has begun to snow and let men see the javelins of his armament; when he has put the winds to sleep and snows without ceasing till he has covered the high hilltops and the clover meadows and the farmers fields; till even the shores and inlets of the grey sea are under snow and only the breakers fend it off as they come rolling in – everything else is blanketed by the overwhelming fall from Zeus’s hand.”

Such an overwhelming blanket of snow that covers the whole land excepting only the rolling waves appears to indicate some northern land. This is borne out by Homer’s descriptions of Trojan and Achaean skin coloring. The Danaan Captains and Counsellors all had white flesh, as did all of the warriors involved in the war. The Trojan Lycaon had white flesh, whilst Helen and Andromache were called ‘white armed’. Aias is referred to as having ‘lily white skin’, an epithet at odds with a Mediterranean/Aegean skin coloring. In addition, Homer always refers to the Trojan and Achaean spears as ‘long shadowed’, possibly indicating the fact that the sun shone at an oblique angle, hence a northern land again seems probable.

‘The Abduction of Helen’ (1530-1539) by Francesco Primaticcio. (Public Domain)

‘The Abduction of Helen’ (1530-1539) by Francesco Primaticcio. (Public Domain)

Homer gives us valuable information about the homelands of the various contingents in the Trojan and Achaean armies. Throughout the Iliad he uses the phrase ‘bountiful earth’ when referring to them, and his descriptions indicate a veritable ‘Garden of Eden’.

This garden though cannot be in the Aegean or the Mediterranean. There are rich estates in a fertile countryside, wooded peaks, and forests. He tells us of the deep meadows and reedy banks of Asopus, the spreading lawns of Mycalessus, grassy Haliartus, and flowery Pyrasus. The rolling lands of Lacedaemon are deep in the hills, whilst Pteleus is deep in grass. There is Sicyon of the broad lawns, and Mount Phthires of the myriad leaves.

He tells us also of the fertile lands of Tarne and Achaea, and the deep-soiled lands of Thrace, Paeonia, Larissa, Phthia, Ascania, and Troy. We are told of the corn-lands of Buprasion, and Argos with its corn-lands and orchards. Phrygia is the land of vines and galloping horses, whilst Lycia is a broad and fertile realm with lovely orchards and splendid fields of wheat.

These countries are rich in grazing lands, plough lands, tilled fields, farms, farmyards, threshing floors, reaping, fishing, hunting, and horse breeding. The land is so rich and fruitful that it is impossible for it to be the modern Greece of today, where thin rocky soils are typical of the whole area and less than 25% of the land could ever be cultivated.

The south and west Mediterranean areas of Turkey are characterized by thick scrubby undergrowth, whereas the interior is semi-arid. There are rolling plains in European Turkey (Thrace) and dense forest along the Black Sea coast but nowhere else matches the detailed descriptions given by Homer. As far as the last 5,000 years are concerned, aromatic herbs, cork oak and bare white limestone are considered to be the embodiment of the natural Mediterranean world. The summer-dry evergreen forest, scrub, and dry heath are distinctive features.

Neil Roberts, in his environmental history of the Holocene, states that Mediterranean-type environments are also distinguished by their stark, often memorable landscapes. He gives as an example an Aegean island – bare white limestone and blue sea. What we can say with certainty is that it is not a Mediterranean environment that Homer is describing in the Iliad.

The bay of Vai (Crete, Greece). (Marc Ryckaert/CC BY 3.0)

The bay of Vai (Crete, Greece). (Marc Ryckaert/CC BY 3.0)

Other Features that Don’t Fit with a Mediterranean Location of Troy

The homelands of the Achaeans and of the Trojans and their allies were ‘rich in flocks and cattle’. Iton was known as the ‘mother of sheep’, whilst Athens was known for its bulls and rams. Orchomenus was rich in sheep, Argos in horses, and Cilician Thebe in shambling cattle and white sheep.

Homer refers to ‘unnumbered flocks’ and describes the booty when Nestor raided the herds of Itymoneus in Elis. He took away with him fifty herds of cattle, fifty flocks of sheep, as many droves of pigs, the same of herds of goats, together with 150 mares and a large number of foals. In addition to those already mentioned, Homer describes other animals as well as many different birds, fish, insects, and a wide variety of trees and plants.

These lands produced wheat, corn, barley, rye, honey, wine, and bread. There were farmers, farm hands, shepherds, physicians, and surgeons. Homer describes weaving, spinning, dyeing, sewing, embroidery, basketwork, wickerwork and the exquisite works of craftsmen, in wood, leather, and metals. Trojan and Achaean warriors were clad in bronze; and gold, silver, tin, and copper were used on their shields, helmets, greaves, and swords. Iron was used for axes, and a quoit of pig iron was highly valued. These metals, however, were not available together in the Aegean world, so where did they come from? It is a mystery that continues to perplex many scholars even today.

Thetis gives her son Achilles his weapons newly forged by Hephaestus, detail of an Attic black-figure hydria, ca. 575 BC–550 BC. (Public Domain)

Thetis gives her son Achilles his weapons newly forged by Hephaestus, detail of an Attic black-figure hydria, ca. 575 BC–550 BC. (Public Domain)

There were market places in the cities, widespread trading, and the currency in use was the ox. When describing life in the Achaean camp, in Troy and other cities, Homer tells us of slaves, servants, maids, nurses, ladies-in-waiting, priests, prophets, heralds, chieftains, lords, princes, and sceptered kings. There were codes of honor and respect to be observed and generally accepted rules of hospitality.

Throughout the Iliad there is an innate love of storytelling and knowledge of family history and genealogy, and this is demonstrated time after time by many of the participants in the war. Here again it is puzzling that the society that Homer describes is a warrior aristocracy more easily recognizable in that of the early Celts. This heroic age is reflected in the Irish tales commonly known as the Ulster Cycle.

Wherever Troy was located it was certainly not a land-locked region. Here again, Homer describes its headlands, coasts, and beaches, as well as the shores and inlets of the sea. It may seem surprising but the detail provided by Homer indicates that Bronze Age Troy was elsewhere, other than the Aegean.

Ajax defending the Greek Ships against the Trojans. from The story of the Iliad, 1907. (Public Domain)

A Wealth of Information in Homer’s Work

Unbelievably, almost nothing is known about Homer. It is not known, for example, who he was, where or when he lived, or even if his name really was Homer. It is generally considered that his work, the Iliad, was orally composed between 850 and 950 BC and first written down about 400 years later. Most of the surviving manuscripts are from the 14th and 15th centuries AD. It was at this time that Italians brought back a large number of them from the Byzantine Empire. The first printed version appeared in Florence in 1488 AD, followed by many others that permeated Europe after the 16th century.

Bernard says that his own book is indebted to Homer because he has been the fountain of knowledge by which his research on the ‘Story of Troy’ has been seen through to its conclusion. As a reference work the subject matter covered in the Iliad is truly monumental. It includes anthropology, zoology, sociology, biology, cosmology, and theology, but to refer to its contents as encyclopedic does not do it justice. Homer provides information that embraces technology, arts and crafts, history, geography and climate, ornithology, philosophy, mythology, and much more. His work is kaleidoscopic. Above all, he distils and purifies the knowledge into the narrative of his work in such a way that the Iliad will forever remain an enigma.

‘The Burning of Troy’ (1759/62) by Johann Georg Trautmann. (Public Domain)

‘The Burning of Troy’ (1759/62) by Johann Georg Trautmann. (Public Domain)

Top Image: ‘Aeneas carrying his father Anchises from the burning city of Troy’ (1627-1664) by Daniel van Heil. Details in the Iliad cast doubt on the generally accepted location of Troy. Source: Public Domain

By Bernard Jones

For full exploration of The Trojan War, ‘the greatest catastrophe of the ancient world’, ‘The Discovery of Troy and Its Lost History’ by Bernard Jones is available from Amazon. You can find out more about the author and his works at his website, or facebook page,


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Roberts, N. The Holocene: An Environmental History. Wiley-Blackwell, 2014



Maybe yes, maybe not, Mr Jones is aware of the impressive work of Felice Vinci that in 1995 wrote an essay now at its fifth edition and also translated in english (Felice Vinci, The Baltic Origins of Homer's Epic Tales. The Iliad, the Odyssey and the Migration of Myth, translation by Amalia De Francesco, 2006). I think that would be very interesting for each the authors an exchange of informations. For my part I'm sure that their theories are correct. The tales of Homer were imported into the mediterranean world many years after they happened due to great migrations from the north probably caused by dramatic climate changes,

I agree. I thought the evidence in the book was so compelling it convinced me. A visit to local museums around Cambridge where the author contends the action took place will reveal a wealth of Bronze Age weaponry with no record of relevant wars.  I thought Wilkins book the most convincing, but the other book referred to in the previous post was good too – it at confirmed that a highly developed Bronze Age civilisation existed in the UK and norther Europe. 


Where Troy Once Stood by Iman Jacob Wilkens makes the claim that Troy was in Britain so this theory is actually in good company

Wilkens' book is compelling, as is this article

I agree with George above that the author has missed the point and ignored the blatant evidence. It also seems like a bit of a rip-off of Iman Wilkins who proposed the same theory and a lot of the same points about weather and tides ??  Anyone who thinks that part of the sea cannot be choppy or cold in winter has clearly never been there. 

Also the Greek cities cited in the Illiad can in many cases be traced to their exact Bronze Age counterparts in Greece, the Lion Gates at Mycenae and Tiryns of the Great Walls. Also excavations at Hissarlik have increasingly shown startling similarity to many aspects of Homer’s Troy.

Also the names of the Achaeans are reflected in the Pylos Linear B tablets to a degree, which are written in archaic Greek proving a contemporaeneous body of evidence.

Also the comment that the metals mentioned were not available in the Aegean is completely incorrect. The Bronze Age metals like copper and tin were obviously availabe as evidenced by numerous excavtions. The mention of iron items could either be early use of iron towards the end of the Bronze Age or more likely an insert from Homer’s own era in the Bronze Age. 

There are references to armour which match those from Aegaen excavations, inlcuding the boars tusk helmet, cited in the Illiad as an old helmet and only matched to almost exactly the same helmets found in earlier Bronze Age Greek tombs than the period of the Illiad. Other aspects of armour and accoutrements match excavations.

And why, if the Trojan war was not in the Aegaen, whould the literary record of it only be in the Aegean and nowhere else ?  

I could go on and on. This is just bad scholarship in my view and I wonder at the competency of the author in Homeric Greek. Iman Wilkins’ estate might be interested in this too !        

I think the author is missing the point. And the point is that Iliad is a poem, althought based most probably on facts. Obviously, Greek land and climate are not the same as they were more that 3000 years ago, and should not be forgotten that a major deforestation of the Greek land took place much later, during the Persian wars. The same is true for the coastline, either because of estuaries or because the sea was more than a meter lower than it is today. The Homeric dark wine color of the sea was actually purple, as all ancient cultures had some problems naming particular colors, especially the blue. Similarly, as about the complex of the people, no one takes today literarily the medieval "bue blood" nobles, or the red skin native Americans. And of course, all sailing courses mentioned by Homer are very consistent either by time or by the name of the landscapes, with the Aegean sea.

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