It makes you wonder, if the Bible hadn't been touched by the archeologists during the dig and they had no prior knowledge of it would they have ever come to the conclusion that it was Ahab's ivory structure in the first place?
With Jezebel's supposed relation to Queen Dido it's very possible that she both she and Dido were simply used by both Jewish and Roman writers as bits of nationalistic propaganda, wanting to preserve their own ways and rights at the expense of these two great leaders
So the conversation is about Zeus' claims of power?
Atlas being subdued by Zeus or by The Fates for rebelling against, what is set in stone?
I understand Mr. Wu that you are interested in radical interpretations?
I can provide at least 5, interpretations. Using the Bible.
Radical-1. I believe based upon my study of The Book of Enoch, that the showdown between Zeus/ Atlas really happened.
Interpreting moments in The Bible can be challenging; but, I've come to learn a important lesson just follow the Key Phrases in Biblical Passages likewise, In the Beginning..., Genesis; In the Time of Abraham..., Job; In the Time of The Judges..., Book of Ruth.
Enoch? Well let's try... In The Time of Jared... Is how Enoch begins.
So one has to consider what significant event is probably happening within The Genesis Timeline Leading up to The Great Flood.
Now one must do a Word Search of a sorts such as 200 really bad Angels. Pay attention to the 10 Captains and the 10 Lieutenants names I guarantee you will be able to match their names with beloved stories we know as Myths.
200 Angels father numerous children that are gigantic they grow to 3000 feet in height; oh and they are also Cannibals and indulged Abominable Behavior what the Scriptures refers to as Sin or Iniquity.
Radical-2. Temple dedicated to the god of war found in Turkey once known as Mesopotamia. The deity name? Ningirsu in Enoch this is Azazel the angel who taught Man Warfare He even crafted The weapons for the Epic blood soaked battlefields.
Part of the Reasons for The Great Flood Genesis says That Earth was filled with violence and All Men's heart was filled with were Evil thoughts.
Azazel Ningirsu temple I feel is somehow his house as the dwelling he once lived in. I find myself noting the etched figure in Stone surly one can see the figures wing's?
I firmly believe that Ares/Mars, were Azazels Twin son's Azazel like his 199 brethren had even more children subsequently, doubling, Earth's population stressing out Earth hetself; that She cried unto God for Justice (Earth in Enoch is referred as Sheol), then there is Baraquiel some angel who did something with astrology but, will wonders ever cease?
Baraquiel his name is mentioned a lot in The Old Testament starting with The Canaanites living in The Promised Land so does the name Baal and his consort (meaning wife), Asheroth tell me can you find Hera?
Oral tradition thanks to the records from the Canaanites baal was a weather being I'm not certain of this but, when Baraquiel was created he was probably gifted by God something having to do with weather? Possibly. Oh this also means that Baraquiel is zeus married to Hera.
Radical-3. Atlas could have been and Nephew according to Jubilees an Angel maintained to Moses on Mt. Sinai that Hebrew had been The Universal Language of Earth for It Is The language of I AM and the Angel's.
This tells me that with The Tower of Babel when God changed Earth's language The people who lived before the flood their names and specific events that occurred changed with Tower of Babel. Hence the name Atlas!
For instance, in Hebrew the Children of the angels; are called Nephilims/Rephalims remember they grew gigantic up to 3000 ft. in ht. Thanks to the Greeks we now know them as The Titan's.
Radical-4. God in saving humanity from extinction pits angels children against each other and their children in Turn is pitted against their Titan parents where their then labeled as gods.
Jupiter/Zeus (privately Baraquiel baal)
Odin/The giant Yeimiel kills him quite grusomely I think.
Anbus/Ankus
Orisis/Seth (weird Seth evil here I thought of Cain).
Ra/Horus
That is just to name a few. Enoch stressed that the angels children and grand children even were immortal so their wasn't a man made weapon powerful enough to kill them accept for each other. Remember the story of Zeus' twin son's? and Poseidons Twin son's? Yes Neptune/Poseidon existed as well.
Poseidons children rebelled locked ares in a brass jar. Stole him away; it took hermes and artemis to rescue ares/mars causing the twins to kill each other by their own hand.
That is what God orchestrated to happen in case of confusion God wasn't angry that the Nephilims/Rephalims were born that wasn't their fault God was holding them accountable for their behavior how they lived their lives.
God granted Them 120 year Probation Period and 7 months added out of respect to the death of Methuselah for he was greatly respected; the children, didn't accept the Olive Branch being extended by God so the Flood happened and they either were sent to Hell in the Heaven's or became slaves of Lucifer 10 of Them to be exact.
Finally the single most important Radical of all.
Revelation says that there are 4 Angels currently holding up The 4 Corners of the Earth it's possible Atlas refers to THEM All God has to is Say 1 word They'll let go and Goodbye Earth.
So I hope Zeus Atlas was very Radical oh and Great Article!
Oh before I forget I AM sent the Nephilims/Rephalims dreams to communicate with the ones who were more reasonable.
Hilariously the Berbers though not typically on the best of terms with the Egyptians, asked for their help when the Greeks invaded North Africa, according to Herodotus the Greek army destroyed the assistance provided by Egyptians so that, "none were able to return"
I really hate misinformation ! Nemesis or Anciently they called it the GREAT DESTROYER, IS the Sister Sun to our Sun ! The Star Never Lit, so its now a volcanic Planet. The Reason why it is here is its on its fly-by 3600 year run, and has About 6 or 7 smaller planets going in orbit around it, one of them being Nibiru. This time is called “The Crossing” ! Just Pray WE don’t get Clobbered by 1 of the planets! This is also why we have climate change as it is heating up our sun, so the caps are melting a bit, as soon as it passes out of Our solsr system, things wii settle down and get back to normal. Plus behind this Rogue system, it is Dragging a bunch of Space debris, pray we don’t run into that either! This Sister Solar System was known by the Summerians and other ancients! Hopefully this Fly-by will swing wide of earth.
Wonder how he reconciled he belief in faeries with his belief in the Christian God. Did he believe the faeries were angels, demons or a previously unknown third party? His actions imply that he considered them as a benevolent group, even supposedly choosing to stay with them, so how did he view them from his Christian context
One theory that has been put forward is that the Easter story of crucifixion and resurrection is symbolic of rebirth and renewal and retells the cycle of the seasons, the death and return of the sun.
According to some scholars, such as Dr. Tony Nugent, teacher of Theology and Religious Studies at Seattle University, and Presbyterian minister, the Easter story comes from the Sumerian legend of Damuzi (Tammuz) and his wife Inanna (Ishtar), an epic myth called “The Descent of Inanna” found inscribed on cuneiform clay tablets dating back to 2100 BC. When Tammuz dies, Ishtar is grief–stricken and follows him to the underworld. In the underworld, she enters through seven gates, and her worldly attire is removed. "Naked and bowed low" she is judged, killed, and then hung on display. In her absence, the earth loses its fertility, crops cease to grow and animals stop reproducing. Unless something is done, all life on earth will end.
After Inanna has been missing for three days her assistant goes to other gods for help. Finally one of them Enki, creates two creatures who carry the plant of life and water of life down to the Underworld, sprinkling them on Inanna and Damuzi, resurrecting them, and giving them the power to return to the earth as the light of the sun for six months. After the six months are up, Tammuz returns to the underworld of the dead, remaining there for another six months, and Ishtar pursues him, prompting the water god to rescue them both. Thus were the cycles of winter death and spring life.
David Morris. Well it is obvious the OT was written and or put together by Hebrew priests. The NT was written and or put together by Roman Aritstocrats. And they just combined the two. The Romans made more of a hero god and the Hebrew priests made more of a dictator god. Both gods may or may not of existed. It is my understanding that the NT Jesus never existed but based off of other entities and godmen. It’s possible the the OT god was based off of Enlil of the Sumerian tales. He seemed to be the one that wanted to keep humans slaves and or get rid of them.
Petrovich is a well educated and knowledgeable scholar.
I was pleased to see his name. Thank you for the article, hopefully it can shed the right kind of light on biblical history.
Other than the first two paragraphs I don't think there was much of a schlong measuring contest between the two.
what I find interesting more is that this would indicate a culture that spread or was in contact with others over a large distance. It's not like two separate groups dreamed up the same idea of a henge independently.
why must we have these puerile comparisons, ‘My henge is bigger than your henge...’ and why just limit the discussion to Anglo-Germanic rivalies.. there are other cultures in the same period with henges yet they are conspicously absent from the article. What is found at Pömmelte adds to knowledge but to reduce it to ‘mine is bigger than yours’ is absurd. Both henges are unique and offer much insight, and compared to other henges of the same period there is a tantalizing vision of religious development.. some should be looking at it how it evolved and devolved not doing size / quantity comparisons as the only meaningful data.
to me, ignorant of the site, i welcome the news of their existence as it has rather lifted the lid on the ages of similar, if not all stone structures. If these indeed date to some 70,000 years BEFORE Stonehenge ,Callanish, Carnac and Avebury, and the Egyptian pyramids, then an explanation for stones no longer native to these sites, and claimed to have been somehow lifted and moved from miles away may be that a preceeding Ice Age resulted in that layer of stone being scraped away and removed, leaving only a few precious Bluestone and other remnants to be used for their decorative and other value, subsequently. These South African constructions, for constructions in fact they are, say to me that they are the remnants of homes, and that farmers with their livestock lived in them, but that one or more were designed as calendars as is here claimed, and a very long time ago
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It makes you wonder, if the Bible hadn't been touched by the archeologists during the dig and they had no prior knowledge of it would they have ever come to the conclusion that it was Ahab's ivory structure in the first place?
With Jezebel's supposed relation to Queen Dido it's very possible that she both she and Dido were simply used by both Jewish and Roman writers as bits of nationalistic propaganda, wanting to preserve their own ways and rights at the expense of these two great leaders
In the second paragraph I think you mean Constantine VIII, not Constantine the Great
Hello Mr. Wu,
So the conversation is about Zeus' claims of power?
Atlas being subdued by Zeus or by The Fates for rebelling against, what is set in stone?
I understand Mr. Wu that you are interested in radical interpretations?
I can provide at least 5, interpretations. Using the Bible.
Radical-1. I believe based upon my study of The Book of Enoch, that the showdown between Zeus/ Atlas really happened.
Interpreting moments in The Bible can be challenging; but, I've come to learn a important lesson just follow the Key Phrases in Biblical Passages likewise, In the Beginning..., Genesis; In the Time of Abraham..., Job; In the Time of The Judges..., Book of Ruth.
Enoch? Well let's try... In The Time of Jared... Is how Enoch begins.
So one has to consider what significant event is probably happening within The Genesis Timeline Leading up to The Great Flood.
Now one must do a Word Search of a sorts such as 200 really bad Angels. Pay attention to the 10 Captains and the 10 Lieutenants names I guarantee you will be able to match their names with beloved stories we know as Myths.
200 Angels father numerous children that are gigantic they grow to 3000 feet in height; oh and they are also Cannibals and indulged Abominable Behavior what the Scriptures refers to as Sin or Iniquity.
Radical-2. Temple dedicated to the god of war found in Turkey once known as Mesopotamia. The deity name? Ningirsu in Enoch this is Azazel the angel who taught Man Warfare He even crafted The weapons for the Epic blood soaked battlefields.
Part of the Reasons for The Great Flood Genesis says That Earth was filled with violence and All Men's heart was filled with were Evil thoughts.
Azazel Ningirsu temple I feel is somehow his house as the dwelling he once lived in. I find myself noting the etched figure in Stone surly one can see the figures wing's?
I firmly believe that Ares/Mars, were Azazels Twin son's Azazel like his 199 brethren had even more children subsequently, doubling, Earth's population stressing out Earth hetself; that She cried unto God for Justice (Earth in Enoch is referred as Sheol), then there is Baraquiel some angel who did something with astrology but, will wonders ever cease?
Baraquiel his name is mentioned a lot in The Old Testament starting with The Canaanites living in The Promised Land so does the name Baal and his consort (meaning wife), Asheroth tell me can you find Hera?
Oral tradition thanks to the records from the Canaanites baal was a weather being I'm not certain of this but, when Baraquiel was created he was probably gifted by God something having to do with weather? Possibly. Oh this also means that Baraquiel is zeus married to Hera.
Radical-3. Atlas could have been and Nephew according to Jubilees an Angel maintained to Moses on Mt. Sinai that Hebrew had been The Universal Language of Earth for It Is The language of I AM and the Angel's.
This tells me that with The Tower of Babel when God changed Earth's language The people who lived before the flood their names and specific events that occurred changed with Tower of Babel. Hence the name Atlas!
For instance, in Hebrew the Children of the angels; are called Nephilims/Rephalims remember they grew gigantic up to 3000 ft. in ht. Thanks to the Greeks we now know them as The Titan's.
Radical-4. God in saving humanity from extinction pits angels children against each other and their children in Turn is pitted against their Titan parents where their then labeled as gods.
Jupiter/Zeus (privately Baraquiel baal)
Odin/The giant Yeimiel kills him quite grusomely I think.
Anbus/Ankus
Orisis/Seth (weird Seth evil here I thought of Cain).
Ra/Horus
That is just to name a few. Enoch stressed that the angels children and grand children even were immortal so their wasn't a man made weapon powerful enough to kill them accept for each other. Remember the story of Zeus' twin son's? and Poseidons Twin son's? Yes Neptune/Poseidon existed as well.
Poseidons children rebelled locked ares in a brass jar. Stole him away; it took hermes and artemis to rescue ares/mars causing the twins to kill each other by their own hand.
That is what God orchestrated to happen in case of confusion God wasn't angry that the Nephilims/Rephalims were born that wasn't their fault God was holding them accountable for their behavior how they lived their lives.
God granted Them 120 year Probation Period and 7 months added out of respect to the death of Methuselah for he was greatly respected; the children, didn't accept the Olive Branch being extended by God so the Flood happened and they either were sent to Hell in the Heaven's or became slaves of Lucifer 10 of Them to be exact.
Finally the single most important Radical of all.
Revelation says that there are 4 Angels currently holding up The 4 Corners of the Earth it's possible Atlas refers to THEM All God has to is Say 1 word They'll let go and Goodbye Earth.
So I hope Zeus Atlas was very Radical oh and Great Article!
Oh before I forget I AM sent the Nephilims/Rephalims dreams to communicate with the ones who were more reasonable.
My favourite fairy tale is The Little Match Girl by Hans Christian Andersen. So sad and beautiful at the same time.
Based Mr. Wagner!
Hilariously the Berbers though not typically on the best of terms with the Egyptians, asked for their help when the Greeks invaded North Africa, according to Herodotus the Greek army destroyed the assistance provided by Egyptians so that, "none were able to return"
Hi, brilliant article on Grace O Malley- you might be interested in reading my piece on the legendray heroine?
Like today, a system of governing is only as good as its method of determining its leaders.
I really hate misinformation ! Nemesis or Anciently they called it the GREAT DESTROYER, IS the Sister Sun to our Sun ! The Star Never Lit, so its now a volcanic Planet. The Reason why it is here is its on its fly-by 3600 year run, and has About 6 or 7 smaller planets going in orbit around it, one of them being Nibiru. This time is called “The Crossing” ! Just Pray WE don’t get Clobbered by 1 of the planets! This is also why we have climate change as it is heating up our sun, so the caps are melting a bit, as soon as it passes out of Our solsr system, things wii settle down and get back to normal. Plus behind this Rogue system, it is Dragging a bunch of Space debris, pray we don’t run into that either! This Sister Solar System was known by the Summerians and other ancients! Hopefully this Fly-by will swing wide of earth.
Wonder how he reconciled he belief in faeries with his belief in the Christian God. Did he believe the faeries were angels, demons or a previously unknown third party? His actions imply that he considered them as a benevolent group, even supposedly choosing to stay with them, so how did he view them from his Christian context
Greek mythology, where the sky can be held up by a Titan and Zeus claims he can dangle the entire world from Olympus
Do you have any context for these? That would definitely help in id-ing them!
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This article actually explains it well.
https://www.ancient-origins.net/myths-legends/ancient-pagan-origins-easter-001571
One theory that has been put forward is that the Easter story of crucifixion and resurrection is symbolic of rebirth and renewal and retells the cycle of the seasons, the death and return of the sun.
According to some scholars, such as Dr. Tony Nugent, teacher of Theology and Religious Studies at Seattle University, and Presbyterian minister, the Easter story comes from the Sumerian legend of Damuzi (Tammuz) and his wife Inanna (Ishtar), an epic myth called “The Descent of Inanna” found inscribed on cuneiform clay tablets dating back to 2100 BC. When Tammuz dies, Ishtar is grief–stricken and follows him to the underworld. In the underworld, she enters through seven gates, and her worldly attire is removed. "Naked and bowed low" she is judged, killed, and then hung on display. In her absence, the earth loses its fertility, crops cease to grow and animals stop reproducing. Unless something is done, all life on earth will end.
After Inanna has been missing for three days her assistant goes to other gods for help. Finally one of them Enki, creates two creatures who carry the plant of life and water of life down to the Underworld, sprinkling them on Inanna and Damuzi, resurrecting them, and giving them the power to return to the earth as the light of the sun for six months. After the six months are up, Tammuz returns to the underworld of the dead, remaining there for another six months, and Ishtar pursues him, prompting the water god to rescue them both. Thus were the cycles of winter death and spring life.
David Morris. Well it is obvious the OT was written and or put together by Hebrew priests. The NT was written and or put together by Roman Aritstocrats. And they just combined the two. The Romans made more of a hero god and the Hebrew priests made more of a dictator god. Both gods may or may not of existed. It is my understanding that the NT Jesus never existed but based off of other entities and godmen. It’s possible the the OT god was based off of Enlil of the Sumerian tales. He seemed to be the one that wanted to keep humans slaves and or get rid of them.
Petrovich is a well educated and knowledgeable scholar.
I was pleased to see his name. Thank you for the article, hopefully it can shed the right kind of light on biblical history.
Other than the first two paragraphs I don't think there was much of a schlong measuring contest between the two.
what I find interesting more is that this would indicate a culture that spread or was in contact with others over a large distance. It's not like two separate groups dreamed up the same idea of a henge independently.
makes you wonder
why must we have these puerile comparisons, ‘My henge is bigger than your henge...’ and why just limit the discussion to Anglo-Germanic rivalies.. there are other cultures in the same period with henges yet they are conspicously absent from the article. What is found at Pömmelte adds to knowledge but to reduce it to ‘mine is bigger than yours’ is absurd. Both henges are unique and offer much insight, and compared to other henges of the same period there is a tantalizing vision of religious development.. some should be looking at it how it evolved and devolved not doing size / quantity comparisons as the only meaningful data.
to me, ignorant of the site, i welcome the news of their existence as it has rather lifted the lid on the ages of similar, if not all stone structures. If these indeed date to some 70,000 years BEFORE Stonehenge ,Callanish, Carnac and Avebury, and the Egyptian pyramids, then an explanation for stones no longer native to these sites, and claimed to have been somehow lifted and moved from miles away may be that a preceeding Ice Age resulted in that layer of stone being scraped away and removed, leaving only a few precious Bluestone and other remnants to be used for their decorative and other value, subsequently. These South African constructions, for constructions in fact they are, say to me that they are the remnants of homes, and that farmers with their livestock lived in them, but that one or more were designed as calendars as is here claimed, and a very long time ago
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