Lifting the 30 ton slabs was never a Question.
Moving those across a field and Loading on a truck Overnight? now "Splain that Lucy"
Did he have a Tracked vehicle??
Alcohol's ability to extract the oils of herbs as a solvent and preserve them as well. make it the perfect base for medicine, as a carrier for sure but as a medicine itself? Maybe not...
Maybe they just used them to clean the stalls of their livestock; exactly as people that live on farms and keep animals in barns do today. Straw and poop, that endless task... Less mystic perhaps, but more necessary and they appear well suited to the task.
I haven't read all the comments here so someone might have already pointed out that such lists involving long age spans also occur in ancient Indian literatures. In Indian thought ( as well as some other cultures, e,g, Native American), there are four distinct ages to a cycle of the universe: satya-yuga (people lived an average of 100,000 years), treta-yuga (an average lifespan of 10,000 years), dvarpara-yuga (1000 years) and the present kali-yuga (100 years). Each yuga or eon includes a 'sandhi' or conjunction/transition from one age to the next, which would account for the sudden decrease in longevity of life observed in Biblical/Sumerian accounts, e.g. the conjunction between our present age of kali and the prior dvarpara-yuga. Although I don't wish to comment in detail presently, the different lengths of these yugas are intertwined with specific measurement systems and astronomical configurations of the ancient Indian/Vedic culture (and probably those of other cultures at that time).
Further, Mount Sumeru is an important cosmological/geographical feature of Vedic culture and, as the ancient Sumerians were engaged in trade with the ancient Indians, it would not be surprising that the name 'Sumer' is derived from 'Mount Sumeru', the world mountain.
I haven't read all the comments here, so someone might have already pointed out that such lists involving long age spans also occur in ancient Indian literatures. In Indian thought ( as well as some other cultures, e,g, Native American), there are four distinct ages to a cycle of the universe: satya-yuga (people lived an average of 100,000 years), treta-yuga (an average lifespan of 10,000 years), dvarpara-yuga (1000 years) and the present kali-yuga (100 years). Each yuga or eon includes a 'sandhi' or conjunction/transition from one age to the next, which would account for the sudden decrease in longevity of life observed in Biblical/Sumerian accounts, e.g. the conjunction between our present age of kali and the prior dvarpara-yuga. Although I don't wish to comment in detail presently, the different lengths of these yugas are intertwined with mathematical, measurement and astronomical systems of the ancient Indian/Vedic culture (and probably those of other cultures at that time).
Further, Mount Sumeru is an important cosmological/geographical feature of ancient Vedic culture and, as the ancient Sumerians were engaged in trade with the ancient Indians, it would not be surprising that 'Sumer' could be derived from 'Sumeru', the world mountain.
Perhaps Edward Leedskalnin's Coral Castle's enigma is in plain sight for all to see, leaving parts of the information as evidence. He used a chain and pulley-block system to lift the massive stones, the same types used in industry. He carried out his construction work at nighttime when everyone else was asleep, as he did not want anyone to see his operations.
So even Hunter gatherers found uses for astronomy in their hunting seasons. This connection should go to show that astronomy, has been a focus on a lot of religion s because. An accurate clock is what allows a person to control the agricultural part of their environment.
That is a really awesome find. To me it looks like a cross between a course thread bold and a pillar. Almost like something I would find on a set of woodworking clamps or on a pipe cutting machine.
This is really a cool find. Because it is in the neighborhood of Babylon and the Sumerian empire. doing casting requires a mold. I wonder if the original mold was a standard concave cuneiform style, that when casted in silver the silver piece became convex lettering.
Could the loss of DNA over the years be contributed to the way humans control their environment, for example if a human gives natural birth it is usually done in a hospital. An animal can give. Birth usually without the help of anyone else. And humans also have trouble eating raw meat compared to domesticated pets.
It is simply wrong interpretation of the ancient language. The word meant a day and not a year. Assuming that their year consisted of 360 days we get the following result.
After the kingdom descended from heaven the kingship was in eridug. In Eridug , Alulim became king; he ruled for 80 years. Alaljar ruled for 100 years. 2 kings; they ruled for 1809 years.
The early list names eight kings with a total of 241,200 (bout 726) years from the time when kingship “descended from heaven” to the time when "the Flood" swept over the land and once more "the kingship was lowered from heaven" after the Flood.
It is simply wrong interpretation of the ancient language. The word meant a day and not a year. Assuming that their year consisted of 360 days we get the following result.
After the kingdom descended from heaven the kingship was in eridug. In Eridug , Alulim became king; he ruled for 80 years. Alaljar ruled for 100 years. 2 kings; they ruled for 1809 years.
The early list names eight kings with a total of 241,200 (bout 726) years from the time when kingship “descended from heaven” to the time when "the Flood" swept over the land and once more "the kingship was lowered from heaven" after the Flood.
So ancient Corinth's harbour town Lechaion was partially submerged by sea level rise. And so, how can we blame our modern human era for the climate change that caused that? Oh wait, nature has been changing for eons without our help.
I don't believe before any flood people lived many hundreds of years. I think early societies which hadn't yet learned to accurately measure the length of the year to within a day used the cycle of the moon as a visual counter of a person's age. Thus if somebody said to be nine hundred years old was actually nine hundred moons old he would be near-as-damn-it seventy-five. For some reason the scribes never grasped this but hey!, when God's involved it does makes it a better yarn if they leave in the unlikely.
The meaning is All Gifts, or All Giving. PAN = All, every, whole, all-inclusive DORA = Gifts, giving. from Dorothea (Dorothy), Theodora, gift from God, gift of the Gods.
The myth is a bitter one, hostile to women, parodying older myths where female images of divinity hold jars or containers of abundant foods and other delights. The container itself is a symbol of femaleness, the necked womb.
Curiosity is the fount of intelligence and wisdom. Many or most of the early human technologies were invented by women. The very first tool was probably a carrier bag, made of grasses, for carrying gathered food (vegetables, roots, nuts, fruits). Lined with clay, used for fire carrying, this created the first pots. Cooking employed containers. Water and food needed containers for porterage, and fire also was carried in clay lined baskets. Water and fire is usually traditionally carried by women. Many societies believe that women are stronger at carrying things, perhaps by analogy with pregnancy. Certainly female stamina is greater, as male strength is designed for high energy short bursts.
A repressive ideology which aims to keep people subservient and slavish typically trains fear of sex, women, and curiosity. Showing the beauty of a woman as treacherous is a typical slavemaster trick. It divides men from women so each are weakened. It removes the joy of sex which strengthens mind and body and spirit. A similar tale is told in old Wales, of Blodeuedd, the Lady made of Flowers. Like Pandora, she is constructed to be a delight to her husband because of her beauty. But given no choice in her fate, she feels no loyalty to her husband, and betrays him with a lover, and helps her lover kill the husband. The tale metes out vengeance but the (magically resurrected) husband is left bleakly alone and infertile. The moral is that making women into dolls is dangerous, and backfires on the wannabe masters.
Prometheus was a blazing pioneer of rebellion and freedom, later reframed as Lucifer. Again the master class attempt to make him a dire warning of agonising penalty if we dare attempt to win power and technology for ourselves. That may mean a new message now as we face global warming. But note also how the people's hero Heracles rescues Prometheus. Note also the key reason Epimetheus brings Pandora's terrible gifts into the world is because he is simply stupid, and ignores his brother's warning. He does not look at what he is doing.
A profound question presented by Pandora's legend is what is the nature of Hope? A simple reading is that Hope is the beautiful balancing power which offsets disease, poverty, war. There is always Hope. Yet hope is cruel and forces us to go on suffering and feeling what we suffer. To switch off, to go unfeeling, to give up hope, is far less painful and can be a way to survive. yet again if we lose hope, we eventually die, as they knew in WWII camps. Whether we feel Pandora's gift Hope is her greatest kindness or the final and greatest cruelty by Hermes, depends on the person, and on the moment. It can be either, and no fixed answer can hold for long.
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Lifting the 30 ton slabs was never a Question.
Moving those across a field and Loading on a truck Overnight? now "Splain that Lucy"
Did he have a Tracked vehicle??
Alcohol's ability to extract the oils of herbs as a solvent and preserve them as well. make it the perfect base for medicine, as a carrier for sure but as a medicine itself? Maybe not...
Maybe they just used them to clean the stalls of their livestock; exactly as people that live on farms and keep animals in barns do today. Straw and poop, that endless task... Less mystic perhaps, but more necessary and they appear well suited to the task.
I haven't read all the comments here so someone might have already pointed out that such lists involving long age spans also occur in ancient Indian literatures. In Indian thought ( as well as some other cultures, e,g, Native American), there are four distinct ages to a cycle of the universe: satya-yuga (people lived an average of 100,000 years), treta-yuga (an average lifespan of 10,000 years), dvarpara-yuga (1000 years) and the present kali-yuga (100 years). Each yuga or eon includes a 'sandhi' or conjunction/transition from one age to the next, which would account for the sudden decrease in longevity of life observed in Biblical/Sumerian accounts, e.g. the conjunction between our present age of kali and the prior dvarpara-yuga. Although I don't wish to comment in detail presently, the different lengths of these yugas are intertwined with specific measurement systems and astronomical configurations of the ancient Indian/Vedic culture (and probably those of other cultures at that time).
Further, Mount Sumeru is an important cosmological/geographical feature of Vedic culture and, as the ancient Sumerians were engaged in trade with the ancient Indians, it would not be surprising that the name 'Sumer' is derived from 'Mount Sumeru', the world mountain.
I haven't read all the comments here, so someone might have already pointed out that such lists involving long age spans also occur in ancient Indian literatures. In Indian thought ( as well as some other cultures, e,g, Native American), there are four distinct ages to a cycle of the universe: satya-yuga (people lived an average of 100,000 years), treta-yuga (an average lifespan of 10,000 years), dvarpara-yuga (1000 years) and the present kali-yuga (100 years). Each yuga or eon includes a 'sandhi' or conjunction/transition from one age to the next, which would account for the sudden decrease in longevity of life observed in Biblical/Sumerian accounts, e.g. the conjunction between our present age of kali and the prior dvarpara-yuga. Although I don't wish to comment in detail presently, the different lengths of these yugas are intertwined with mathematical, measurement and astronomical systems of the ancient Indian/Vedic culture (and probably those of other cultures at that time).
Further, Mount Sumeru is an important cosmological/geographical feature of ancient Vedic culture and, as the ancient Sumerians were engaged in trade with the ancient Indians, it would not be surprising that 'Sumer' could be derived from 'Sumeru', the world mountain.
Perhaps Edward Leedskalnin's Coral Castle's enigma is in plain sight for all to see, leaving parts of the information as evidence. He used a chain and pulley-block system to lift the massive stones, the same types used in industry. He carried out his construction work at nighttime when everyone else was asleep, as he did not want anyone to see his operations.
So even Hunter gatherers found uses for astronomy in their hunting seasons. This connection should go to show that astronomy, has been a focus on a lot of religion s because. An accurate clock is what allows a person to control the agricultural part of their environment.
That is a really awesome find. To me it looks like a cross between a course thread bold and a pillar. Almost like something I would find on a set of woodworking clamps or on a pipe cutting machine.
This is all true stuff, I wish my comments would get past the spam blocker. I think Neanderthals were an amazing group.
This is really a cool find. Because it is in the neighborhood of Babylon and the Sumerian empire. doing casting requires a mold. I wonder if the original mold was a standard concave cuneiform style, that when casted in silver the silver piece became convex lettering.
Could the loss of DNA over the years be contributed to the way humans control their environment, for example if a human gives natural birth it is usually done in a hospital. An animal can give. Birth usually without the help of anyone else. And humans also have trouble eating raw meat compared to domesticated pets.
It is simply wrong interpretation of the ancient language. The word meant a day and not a year. Assuming that their year consisted of 360 days we get the following result.
After the kingdom descended from heaven the kingship was in eridug. In Eridug , Alulim became king; he ruled for 80 years. Alaljar ruled for 100 years. 2 kings; they ruled for 1809 years.
The early list names eight kings with a total of 241,200 (bout 726) years from the time when kingship “descended from heaven” to the time when "the Flood" swept over the land and once more "the kingship was lowered from heaven" after the Flood.
It is simply wrong interpretation of the ancient language. The word meant a day and not a year. Assuming that their year consisted of 360 days we get the following result.
After the kingdom descended from heaven the kingship was in eridug. In Eridug , Alulim became king; he ruled for 80 years. Alaljar ruled for 100 years. 2 kings; they ruled for 1809 years.
The early list names eight kings with a total of 241,200 (bout 726) years from the time when kingship “descended from heaven” to the time when "the Flood" swept over the land and once more "the kingship was lowered from heaven" after the Flood.
no comment
Thanks...that was irking me also!
pedant.. absolutely pathetic.
So ancient Corinth's harbour town Lechaion was partially submerged by sea level rise. And so, how can we blame our modern human era for the climate change that caused that? Oh wait, nature has been changing for eons without our help.
He fell in love with a Polish girl. Been there, done that.
I don't believe before any flood people lived many hundreds of years. I think early societies which hadn't yet learned to accurately measure the length of the year to within a day used the cycle of the moon as a visual counter of a person's age. Thus if somebody said to be nine hundred years old was actually nine hundred moons old he would be near-as-damn-it seventy-five. For some reason the scribes never grasped this but hey!, when God's involved it does makes it a better yarn if they leave in the unlikely.
The meaning is All Gifts, or All Giving.
PAN = All, every, whole, all-inclusive
DORA = Gifts, giving. from Dorothea (Dorothy), Theodora, gift from God, gift of the Gods.
The myth is a bitter one, hostile to women, parodying older myths where female images of divinity hold jars or containers of abundant foods and other delights. The container itself is a symbol of femaleness, the necked womb.
Curiosity is the fount of intelligence and wisdom. Many or most of the early human technologies were invented by women. The very first tool was probably a carrier bag, made of grasses, for carrying gathered food (vegetables, roots, nuts, fruits). Lined with clay, used for fire carrying, this created the first pots. Cooking employed containers. Water and food needed containers for porterage, and fire also was carried in clay lined baskets. Water and fire is usually traditionally carried by women. Many societies believe that women are stronger at carrying things, perhaps by analogy with pregnancy. Certainly female stamina is greater, as male strength is designed for high energy short bursts.
A repressive ideology which aims to keep people subservient and slavish typically trains fear of sex, women, and curiosity. Showing the beauty of a woman as treacherous is a typical slavemaster trick. It divides men from women so each are weakened. It removes the joy of sex which strengthens mind and body and spirit.
A similar tale is told in old Wales, of Blodeuedd, the Lady made of Flowers. Like Pandora, she is constructed to be a delight to her husband because of her beauty. But given no choice in her fate, she feels no loyalty to her husband, and betrays him with a lover, and helps her lover kill the husband. The tale metes out vengeance but the (magically resurrected) husband is left bleakly alone and infertile. The moral is that making women into dolls is dangerous, and backfires on the wannabe masters.
Prometheus was a blazing pioneer of rebellion and freedom, later reframed as Lucifer. Again the master class attempt to make him a dire warning of agonising penalty if we dare attempt to win power and technology for ourselves. That may mean a new message now as we face global warming. But note also how the people's hero Heracles rescues Prometheus.
Note also the key reason Epimetheus brings Pandora's terrible gifts into the world is because he is simply stupid, and ignores his brother's warning. He does not look at what he is doing.
A profound question presented by Pandora's legend is what is the nature of Hope?
A simple reading is that Hope is the beautiful balancing power which offsets disease, poverty, war. There is always Hope. Yet hope is cruel and forces us to go on suffering and feeling what we suffer. To switch off, to go unfeeling, to give up hope, is far less painful and can be a way to survive. yet again if we lose hope, we eventually die, as they knew in WWII camps.
Whether we feel Pandora's gift Hope is her greatest kindness or the final and greatest cruelty by Hermes, depends on the person, and on the moment. It can be either, and no fixed answer can hold for long.
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