I recall reading that around 530CE Halley's comet came quite close and ice cores point to something large hitting the earth causing a significant cooling, volcanic activity, plagues, tsunamis, severe worldwide and drought that lasted 20 years in some places.
Many records of the aftermath were destroyed by the Church as you can't sell people on an all powerful, yet loving god if that same god imposed a 20 year drought can you?
It is safe to assume that the world lost a lot of its civilizations when faced with such events.
zxq9 is right! This find does NOT prove that Hominids mated with other Hominids, much less Human breeding. Anyone who saw the OJ Simpson Trial, knows that DNA degrades rapidly. Add that to the Fact that ancient Fossils can only extract the Matriarchal DNA, this is just more to justify evolutionary belief systems. Consider thi8s: if the Denisovan killed & ingested a Neanderthal juvenile, later excreted this Bone fragment which 'stewed' in the Feces for several hund Thousand yrs, I bet the DNA result would be an exact match!?
History is lost every day in the secret war between amateur looters and looters with government or academic credentials. It would seem Britain has a better system.
This discovery is far from being proof that hybrid hominin families existed, rather that they mated at least occasionally. We may have discovered the remnants of a “war baby”, for example, proving nothing more than the existence of dominance rape in pre-historical times (which, as this occurs in other primates, seems likely), or the existence of kidnapping, or the existence of any other circumstance where sexual involvement between groups may occur.
I recognize that the researchers are excited about the discovery (it is interesting and novel, after all) but the hyperbole and leap to conclusions is a bit much.
Apparently you didn't read where Chang said this is just a thought experiment, not meant to be particularly realistic. Also it could be off by 2 million years lol. That's what he says about his own "proofs".
It is only an assumption that, because the first Denisovan finds were in Altai, that that was their "home base". They could just have easily migrated from Australia. As yet we do not have enough information. I await further discoveries
"StoneAge" or "Paleolithic"? It is simply a descriptor of a period of time when stone was used to make tools. Unfortunately some have used the term in a derogatory manner, as often is the case with ignorant people, but maybe it is time to reclaim it as an example of a time of innovation, invention and cultural experimentation, rather than give in to yobs
Sadly, Australian academia is at the forefront of political correctness. For example, the Nursing and Midwifery Board are recommending that white health staff are unable to treat Indiginous Australians until they have make a mandatory statement acknowledging their "white privilage". ("Patients" is also a term discouraged from use"). It's very sad, because these tokenistic, politically correct rules of speech do nothing to help with the many real life issues faced by the First Australians.
Tim, the subject of Ojibwa DNA is discussed in meticulous detail in new book Denisovan Dawn, co-written with DNA expert Dr. Greg Little. It is published in 2019 by Bear & Co.
Political correctness carried to its most idiotic apex. ( Excuse me for employing the term "apex" as it is derived from Latin, the speech of an imperalistic, toxic male dominated society - sarcasm)
Asherah has always been the Main Goddess. See also Jeremiah 44:15-30.
Later, in the beginning of the patriarchy, the relatively unknown weather god Yahweh was added to HER side. When the patriarchy was firmly established among Jews, Yahweh became the sole god and Asherah played an ever smaller role. This has been a patriarchal and thus misogynous process. It also took place in Greek mythology. Hera was known thousands of years before Zeus. In patriarchy she rather became a "wife".
In response to Billybob, You did not read the article closely enough. The author states that it was an Early version of Deuteronomy 33.2-3 that mentioned Asherah
If you didn't see it in your presumably modern translation of the Bible than that is why. As the author points out she was increasingly excluded and marginalized from the "book" religion that came to predominate what has become the later Abrahamic religions.
I personally thought the article was well balanced and scientifically logical.
Amdre King TUT was 100% Black African, so was his Father Ahkenaten, as well as his 100% Black grandmother, Queen Tye. By the way, DNA does not define race, instead, it defines distant locations of people who are clustered together from other people. For instance, Black Aussie aborigines, Thailand Mani’s, Phillipine Ate’s, Papua New Guinea Blacks in the South Pacific, and Nicobar/Andaman Island Black race people all have different DNA from each other, but they are all Black (NEGROID) people. Black African people on the continent also have different geographial DNA from each other, and so does European IRISH and ENGLISH have different DNA from each other, but it doesn’t change the race….DNA is used to idemtify different locations, and the further the DISTANCE the more difference in DNA…...educate yourself and come back for some more schooling...
In this article, Deuteronomy 33.2-3 is refernced as if it supports the argument that Asherah was at one time the wife of the hebrew God. Deuteronomy 33.2-3 makes no mention of Asherah. Ms. Leonard has made a calculated and measured effort to blend ancient folklore with biblcal scripture, presumably to validate her assertion that the early Jews belived that YAHWEY had a wife.
Baloney. The whole theory of Neanderthal-Homosapien mixture was based on the supposition that Africans had none of the genes presumes to be Neanderthal. At this point we really don't know that the presumably Neanderthal genes are actually that. I predicted they would find these genes in Africans years ago.
I think that the Urfa man is actually a woman, and he is not holding his genitals, rather she is holding a baby, a new born.
holding the baby by the and you can see arms and legs, the top part of the baby is gone, it may have been broken off.
I am not sure why the statues are all assumed to be men, holding the belly is a woman pose related to fertility, it is almost instinctive for a woman to hold protectively her belly while she is pregnant .
just a thought
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I recall reading that around 530CE Halley's comet came quite close and ice cores point to something large hitting the earth causing a significant cooling, volcanic activity, plagues, tsunamis, severe worldwide and drought that lasted 20 years in some places.
Many records of the aftermath were destroyed by the Church as you can't sell people on an all powerful, yet loving god if that same god imposed a 20 year drought can you?
It is safe to assume that the world lost a lot of its civilizations when faced with such events.
zxq9 is right! This find does NOT prove that Hominids mated with other Hominids, much less Human breeding. Anyone who saw the OJ Simpson Trial, knows that DNA degrades rapidly. Add that to the Fact that ancient Fossils can only extract the Matriarchal DNA, this is just more to justify evolutionary belief systems. Consider thi8s: if the Denisovan killed & ingested a Neanderthal juvenile, later excreted this Bone fragment which 'stewed' in the Feces for several hund Thousand yrs, I bet the DNA result would be an exact match!?
History is lost every day in the secret war between amateur looters and looters with government or academic credentials. It would seem Britain has a better system.
This discovery is far from being proof that hybrid hominin families existed, rather that they mated at least occasionally. We may have discovered the remnants of a “war baby”, for example, proving nothing more than the existence of dominance rape in pre-historical times (which, as this occurs in other primates, seems likely), or the existence of kidnapping, or the existence of any other circumstance where sexual involvement between groups may occur.
I recognize that the researchers are excited about the discovery (it is interesting and novel, after all) but the hyperbole and leap to conclusions is a bit much.
Apparently you didn't read where Chang said this is just a thought experiment, not meant to be particularly realistic. Also it could be off by 2 million years lol. That's what he says about his own "proofs".
It is only an assumption that, because the first Denisovan finds were in Altai, that that was their "home base". They could just have easily migrated from Australia. As yet we do not have enough information. I await further discoveries
"StoneAge" or "Paleolithic"? It is simply a descriptor of a period of time when stone was used to make tools. Unfortunately some have used the term in a derogatory manner, as often is the case with ignorant people, but maybe it is time to reclaim it as an example of a time of innovation, invention and cultural experimentation, rather than give in to yobs
Sadly, Australian academia is at the forefront of political correctness. For example, the Nursing and Midwifery Board are recommending that white health staff are unable to treat Indiginous Australians until they have make a mandatory statement acknowledging their "white privilage". ("Patients" is also a term discouraged from use"). It's very sad, because these tokenistic, politically correct rules of speech do nothing to help with the many real life issues faced by the First Australians.
Tim, the subject of Ojibwa DNA is discussed in meticulous detail in new book Denisovan Dawn, co-written with DNA expert Dr. Greg Little. It is published in 2019 by Bear & Co.
Can someone please post an actual refernce to the "Early version" of Deuteronomy 33.2-3 that mentioned Asherah?
Political correctness carried to its most idiotic apex. ( Excuse me for employing the term "apex" as it is derived from Latin, the speech of an imperalistic, toxic male dominated society - sarcasm)
How do they know about blotches? Looks Middle Eastern.
Asherah has always been the Main Goddess. See also Jeremiah 44:15-30.
Later, in the beginning of the patriarchy, the relatively unknown weather god Yahweh was added to HER side. When the patriarchy was firmly established among Jews, Yahweh became the sole god and Asherah played an ever smaller role. This has been a patriarchal and thus misogynous process. It also took place in Greek mythology. Hera was known thousands of years before Zeus. In patriarchy she rather became a "wife".
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In response to Billybob, You did not read the article closely enough. The author states that it was an Early version of Deuteronomy 33.2-3 that mentioned Asherah
If you didn't see it in your presumably modern translation of the Bible than that is why. As the author points out she was increasingly excluded and marginalized from the "book" religion that came to predominate what has become the later Abrahamic religions.
I personally thought the article was well balanced and scientifically logical.
Amdre King TUT was 100% Black African, so was his Father Ahkenaten, as well as his 100% Black grandmother, Queen Tye. By the way, DNA does not define race, instead, it defines distant locations of people who are clustered together from other people. For instance, Black Aussie aborigines, Thailand Mani’s, Phillipine Ate’s, Papua New Guinea Blacks in the South Pacific, and Nicobar/Andaman Island Black race people all have different DNA from each other, but they are all Black (NEGROID) people. Black African people on the continent also have different geographial DNA from each other, and so does European IRISH and ENGLISH have different DNA from each other, but it doesn’t change the race….DNA is used to idemtify different locations, and the further the DISTANCE the more difference in DNA…...educate yourself and come back for some more schooling...
In this article, Deuteronomy 33.2-3 is refernced as if it supports the argument that Asherah was at one time the wife of the hebrew God. Deuteronomy 33.2-3 makes no mention of Asherah. Ms. Leonard has made a calculated and measured effort to blend ancient folklore with biblcal scripture, presumably to validate her assertion that the early Jews belived that YAHWEY had a wife.
Baloney. The whole theory of Neanderthal-Homosapien mixture was based on the supposition that Africans had none of the genes presumes to be Neanderthal. At this point we really don't know that the presumably Neanderthal genes are actually that. I predicted they would find these genes in Africans years ago.
Look into the dna of king tut, hardly african.
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I think that the Urfa man is actually a woman, and he is not holding his genitals, rather she is holding a baby, a new born.
holding the baby by the and you can see arms and legs, the top part of the baby is gone, it may have been broken off.
I am not sure why the statues are all assumed to be men, holding the belly is a woman pose related to fertility, it is almost instinctive for a woman to hold protectively her belly while she is pregnant .
just a thought
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