The Bible as a point of reference works for me; I know everyone else will not see it that way, and that's cool. Okay, so until next time, Refamat I look forward to reading more on Giant Foot Prints that date back Billions of year's Goodbye!
I’m really sorry but I find your writing style confusing with it’s lack of grammar and often unusual sentence structure (this is just an observation and not a critisism of you) I really appreciate the time you took to write and respond unfortunately we don’t share any essential middle ground for conversation. You view the bible as factual and I do not. I prefer science and evidence and you prefer stories and legends without evidence. I am very interested in myths and legends and indigenous stories and many of them contain tiny grains of truth ,but a tiny grain of truth is not enough for me ! I want facts. There isn’t an International consensus that Giants exist ! There are myths and stories about Giants in almost every cultute and country but that is not proof they existed. Without science the world; indeed the universe was a very strange place. People feel uncomfortable and insecure without understanding and knowing things. Gaps in knowledge combined with human beings desire to make sense of the world and our amazing imaginations ,produced stories to fill in those gaps .Stories that are shared and believed in create security and help create community and culture. Even with Science much of the world and the universe it is mysterious and much remains unknown ,which is why it is so important to stick to facts . We can still preserve, protect and appreciate the myths and legends and stories told by our ancestors but we need to remember them, in the context that may stories were retold over and over across vast distances of both time and geography with each person changing the story in the re-telling . We must remind ourselves that the people that created these stories did not have the technology or the science to understand their world the way we can now. For example many cultures believed thunder and lightening were caused by Gods and Demons fighting in the Heavans but we all know that isn’t true ! :)
As I promised I did search for those websites I had to look for as a Class Assignment by my instructor Teaching Native American Literature for Children and that Ytube Video I'd mention A Giant Story from The Lakota also known as The Sioux.
First ytube video The Story of The Giant's -Lakota Legends-motivational-3D the video is 10:26.
Second ytube video Giant's in America & Native American Bible Prophecy 37:07.
On to those online sites I re-visited Native American Pourquoi stories -Native-Languages.org (I keep scrambling up the spelling of Pourquoi it's not intentional), http://www.native-languages.org.
American Indian's in Children's Literature which was established in 2006, by Dr. Debbie Reese of Namb´e Pueblo; Thursday 02, 2006 at 8:04AM. Children's literature.blogspot.com.
Traditional Tales: American Indian Heritage Colorin, Colorado
Here's a story I read for that class assignment
Horned Toad and Giant's.
The Spider Tower
The Weird Sentinel at Squawk Peak
There's even an Canadian Website for Indigenous People's in Canada.
I hope you do check these out oh by the way do you recall me mentioning an, Letter that addressed about Pourquoi Tales by Indigenous Peoples? It was Dr. Debbie Reese Namb´e who wrote that Letter it's on her blog but, it is also online.
American Indian's Children Literature as mentioned earlier she wrote it November 02, 2006
This is all I have to share with you so far as of now 4Cassandra just wanted you to know that I appreciated your feedback in the discussion so until next time, Goodbye!
My conclusion is that Giant's walked the Earth, I don't suppose those Footprints has been effectively measured are plastered that's been seen around the World?
When I went to camp pre-teen year's I got to do a plaster cast of a deer footprint that was exciting I still have it by the way.
I do remember the Giant foot print found in South Africa, I noted how elongated that human Foot appeared to be; however, since Math isn't my strong suit, I will not attempt the estimate.
I do wonder if anyone happen to plaster the Footprint in South Africa.
I suppose all those plaster cast feet of Big Foot might reveal A Giant's, Footprint possible measurement's.
Look not that long ago I searched on ytube video lectures on Giant's the one that stood out is The History of Giant's I, II, III all three run about 20 minutes.
From the heights of these Giant's brought up by the video's themselves; however, I'm thinking the footprints themselves should be bigger the Footprints currently being found Globally seems awfully small elongated nevertheless, still small.
What I'm getting from these specific Footprints though some do appear to be bigger we maybe looking at our Ancient Ancestors Foot Prints instead.
I hope two sets of Giant Footprints can indicate whether these giant's stood somewhere at 8 feet too hopefully 12 feet.
I just thought of something I'm going to look up something on an old ABC News report I saw I believe 17-18 year's old I'll share it when I find it Alec.
This is all I've got too share about Giant's Footprints Globally; I apologize if I didn't answer your question so please let me know and on that note so until next time, Alec Goodbye!
If anyone is truly interested in the history of peoples responses and beliefs in regards to alleged Giant Footprints throughout time, this is a great resource web.stanford.edu/dept/HPS/MayorFolklorefoot.pdf
Folklore is just that. Oral legends told over the centuries with nothing substanciated. The only reference to giants I know of that might be investigatable is the one about the red headed “giants” that the Ute’s killed off in a legend handed down, and then an unsubstanciated story of a rancher and crew finding a cave with “giant” skeletons of 7, maybe up to 9 ft long, that the rancher and crew buried or hid the cave. But just a story so far but surely not the giants that made millions or billions of years old foot prints. In Granite. But only non-scientists take pictures or videos (most are religious looking for validation).
This is what I will say all of The Indigenous People's have related Oral stories about what transpired when the U.S. Soldiers sent to various People came and forcibly remove Them from their Ancestral Home's and on to Reservation's.
My point Before The arrival of Europeans Indigenous People's has maintained from Their Oral History that there once existed A Race of White Giant's.
Some of the Giant's are described as Red Head's other's were Blond and a interesting detail regarding these Giant's in Question some had Double Rows of teeth or even Triple rows of Teeth, They all had Six Fingers and Six Toes accept for Judahcula according too The Cherokee He had Seven fingers so probably He had Seven Toes.
All of The People's has said that Europeans in comparison were Pygmies here's the thing George Washington was 6 foot 2, Thomas Jefferson 6 foot 3, James Monroe 6 foot 2, Abraham Lincoln he grew pass 6 foot 3, Andrew Jackson well he was a Six footer.
In terms of Height that's not very big in comparison to what The People's are describing these Giant's so Europeans were Pygmies an chances are they would have eaten them too.
I'm astonished for the simple reason that The Indigenous Peoples identify these Race of Giant's by Tribe. To me saying Tribe is a specific detail; so let me take a moment to share 8 of their name's with you Refamat which I have so far.
One more tidbit my spelling may be a bit off in writing their name's so bare with me.
Akageagankak>Yupik Indian Giant's
Avin>Alesa Incan Giant's
Basket Ogress>Northwest Coast Indian Giantess
Caodajo>Coldo Indian Giant's
Desasits>Shoshone Indian Giant's
Gray Giant's>Mavajo Indian Giant's
Ice Giant's>Algonquian Indian Giant's
Kee-Waka>Webanaki Indian Giant's
It is said that they were cannibals another persistent detail.
This is all I have to share now on the subject but, about those Footprints we would need the Indigenous People's to show us where those Footprints could be. Next time, Refamat.
Yes Refamat ...I know folklore is just folklore which is why I posted the link because too many people on this site seemn to think folklore is fact ! While some folklore may contain tiny seeds of truth for the most part it is a beautiful record of how the human mind tries to make sense of things without science :)
From what I can tell, legends about “giants” are mostly Astro-myths. Even Adam was a giant who spanned the sky in the midrashim. Most legendary giants and titans are centered around the constellation of Orion.
Funny you should mention Astro & Orion's Belt; because Chief Joseph River Wind of The Arawak People their The People's who first met Columbus in 1492, and thus began the Indigenous People's Holocaust.
Chief Joseph says that All of The Indigenous People's has Oral Stories of Giant's; He is not aware of any Tribe that doesn't have any Giant Stories.
Getting into Orions Belt ledom and Astro History; Chief Joseph was taught through Oral History; that the Seven Sister's which is today's Pleiades, an The Warriors Belt, today Orion's Belt, came The Star People.
The Warrior's Belt, is where These Star People come's from arriving on Earth, these Star People made themselves out to Earth's inhabitants appear godlike.
Chief Joseph's People were at first awed by these visitors after, seeing them display their abilities; The Arawak's reference too their abilities is Big Medicine.
Once these Deceptive Star People were thoroughly embedded in to The Live's of The People of Earth, they then proceeded to subjugate The Women of the Earth, an father children through these unfortunate women.
The Women did not survive these endeavors by The Star People, they died giving birth to Those Race of Giant's; that reminds me Astronomy, The Constellations, and Orion's Belt that was taught to The People of The Earth through these Star People.
Chief Joseph ascertain that it was these Race of Giant's that built everything present in The America's like the Mounds and The Pyramids because at that time people simply didn't have the kind of Technology it took to build these great wonders.
Chief Joseph does say that later Indigenous Tribes built stuff but, not in the same manner as the incredible building's by The Giant's.
These Giant's are described as barbaric, Sadistic, an Cruel. How cruel? In a narrative from Georgia once Territory to The Cherokee till The Indian Act of 1830, an The Trail of Tear's, a Giant lived besides The Cherokee People.
He was infamously known for picking an human being up biting there head off then holding up the unfortunate victim too drink their blood like they were an soda bottle and I for one am glad they are no longer here.
Interesting point that caught my attention apparently; There was a Great Flood that was caused to Kill off these Race of Giant's though it seems a few Giant's did Survive the Great Deluge.
Chief Joseph shared an Oral Story told by The Mohawks if memory serves me correct they would be The Iroquois; got fed up with Giant's who lived in fortified cities (I know where are the cities?), Allegenies in Pennsylvania.
Mohawks had a War Council to take on These Giant's but, most of The Iroquois refused they were forced to pay tribute to The Giant's; only The Huron agreed to fight, and so The Mohawks and The Huron made a Treaty that has lasted to this day.
The Battle wasn't easy but, The Mohawks and The Huron who feel through Their Spiritual Belief won the day and killed these Giant's The Huron buried Them.
The Huron knows where there bodies are so they would know where The Giant Footprints are located as well.
About written History The Mohawks did write the account of the War against these Giant's it's on a leather strip in terms of Timeline the History of This battle goes back by at least 1,000 year's.
Here's an idea why not we simply ask of The Indigenous People regarding these Race of Giant's about these perceived Impossibility of Giant's having existed.
So this is all I wish to share with you ledom on the Giant Footprints Discovered Globally it was your Astro Myth that caught my attention an Orion's Belt. Next time, Goodbye!
Jose Rivera (AKA Joseph Riverwind); Claims to be the chief of the extinct Arawak Taino tribe; First he claimed to be a Seminole of the Wind Clan, then he claimed to be a Cherokee of the Wolf Clan, now he's claiming……. Maybe you should check your sources.
Considering what I've just learned by watching Film maker Raoul Peck HBO Documentary 4 part series Exterminate All The Brutes it's a shock anyone of Us exists at all.
Scary part this is still going on in 2021; so how long has it been since, 1492?
Hi Refamat,
The Bible as a point of reference works for me; I know everyone else will not see it that way, and that's cool. Okay, so until next time, Refamat I look forward to reading more on Giant Foot Prints that date back Billions of year's Goodbye!
Hi Zucchini,
I’m really sorry but I find your writing style confusing with it’s lack of grammar and often unusual sentence structure (this is just an observation and not a critisism of you) I really appreciate the time you took to write and respond unfortunately we don’t share any essential middle ground for conversation. You view the bible as factual and I do not. I prefer science and evidence and you prefer stories and legends without evidence. I am very interested in myths and legends and indigenous stories and many of them contain tiny grains of truth ,but a tiny grain of truth is not enough for me ! I want facts. There isn’t an International consensus that Giants exist ! There are myths and stories about Giants in almost every cultute and country but that is not proof they existed. Without science the world; indeed the universe was a very strange place. People feel uncomfortable and insecure without understanding and knowing things. Gaps in knowledge combined with human beings desire to make sense of the world and our amazing imaginations ,produced stories to fill in those gaps .Stories that are shared and believed in create security and help create community and culture. Even with Science much of the world and the universe it is mysterious and much remains unknown ,which is why it is so important to stick to facts . We can still preserve, protect and appreciate the myths and legends and stories told by our ancestors but we need to remember them, in the context that may stories were retold over and over across vast distances of both time and geography with each person changing the story in the re-telling . We must remind ourselves that the people that created these stories did not have the technology or the science to understand their world the way we can now. For example many cultures believed thunder and lightening were caused by Gods and Demons fighting in the Heavans but we all know that isn’t true ! :)
4cassandra
Hi 4Cassandra,
As I promised I did search for those websites I had to look for as a Class Assignment by my instructor Teaching Native American Literature for Children and that Ytube Video I'd mention A Giant Story from The Lakota also known as The Sioux.
First ytube video The Story of The Giant's -Lakota Legends-motivational-3D the video is 10:26.
Second ytube video Giant's in America & Native American Bible Prophecy 37:07.
On to those online sites I re-visited Native American Pourquoi stories -Native-Languages.org (I keep scrambling up the spelling of Pourquoi it's not intentional), http://www.native-languages.org.
American Indian's in Children's Literature which was established in 2006, by Dr. Debbie Reese of Namb´e Pueblo; Thursday 02, 2006 at 8:04AM. Children's literature.blogspot.com.
Traditional Tales: American Indian Heritage Colorin, Colorado
Here's a story I read for that class assignment
Horned Toad and Giant's.
The Spider Tower
The Weird Sentinel at Squawk Peak
There's even an Canadian Website for Indigenous People's in Canada.
I hope you do check these out oh by the way do you recall me mentioning an, Letter that addressed about Pourquoi Tales by Indigenous Peoples? It was Dr. Debbie Reese Namb´e who wrote that Letter it's on her blog but, it is also online.
American Indian's Children Literature as mentioned earlier she wrote it November 02, 2006
This is all I have to share with you so far as of now 4Cassandra just wanted you to know that I appreciated your feedback in the discussion so until next time, Goodbye!
Hi 4Cassandra,
Speaking of Science 4Cassansra, I neglected to ask of you what do you think about DNA?
I Hope to here from you soon so until next time, 4Cassandra Goodbye!
very interesting information
Born a truth-seeker.
Hi Alec,
My conclusion is that Giant's walked the Earth, I don't suppose those Footprints has been effectively measured are plastered that's been seen around the World?
When I went to camp pre-teen year's I got to do a plaster cast of a deer footprint that was exciting I still have it by the way.
I do remember the Giant foot print found in South Africa, I noted how elongated that human Foot appeared to be; however, since Math isn't my strong suit, I will not attempt the estimate.
I do wonder if anyone happen to plaster the Footprint in South Africa.
I suppose all those plaster cast feet of Big Foot might reveal A Giant's, Footprint possible measurement's.
Look not that long ago I searched on ytube video lectures on Giant's the one that stood out is The History of Giant's I, II, III all three run about 20 minutes.
From the heights of these Giant's brought up by the video's themselves; however, I'm thinking the footprints themselves should be bigger the Footprints currently being found Globally seems awfully small elongated nevertheless, still small.
What I'm getting from these specific Footprints though some do appear to be bigger we maybe looking at our Ancient Ancestors Foot Prints instead.
I hope two sets of Giant Footprints can indicate whether these giant's stood somewhere at 8 feet too hopefully 12 feet.
I just thought of something I'm going to look up something on an old ABC News report I saw I believe 17-18 year's old I'll share it when I find it Alec.
This is all I've got too share about Giant's Footprints Globally; I apologize if I didn't answer your question so please let me know and on that note so until next time, Alec Goodbye!
If anyone is truly interested in the history of peoples responses and beliefs in regards to alleged Giant Footprints throughout time, this is a great resource web.stanford.edu/dept/HPS/MayorFolklorefoot.pdf
4cassandra
Folklore is just that. Oral legends told over the centuries with nothing substanciated. The only reference to giants I know of that might be investigatable is the one about the red headed “giants” that the Ute’s killed off in a legend handed down, and then an unsubstanciated story of a rancher and crew finding a cave with “giant” skeletons of 7, maybe up to 9 ft long, that the rancher and crew buried or hid the cave. But just a story so far but surely not the giants that made millions or billions of years old foot prints. In Granite. But only non-scientists take pictures or videos (most are religious looking for validation).
Hi Refamat,
This is what I will say all of The Indigenous People's have related Oral stories about what transpired when the U.S. Soldiers sent to various People came and forcibly remove Them from their Ancestral Home's and on to Reservation's.
My point Before The arrival of Europeans Indigenous People's has maintained from Their Oral History that there once existed A Race of White Giant's.
Some of the Giant's are described as Red Head's other's were Blond and a interesting detail regarding these Giant's in Question some had Double Rows of teeth or even Triple rows of Teeth, They all had Six Fingers and Six Toes accept for Judahcula according too The Cherokee He had Seven fingers so probably He had Seven Toes.
All of The People's has said that Europeans in comparison were Pygmies here's the thing George Washington was 6 foot 2, Thomas Jefferson 6 foot 3, James Monroe 6 foot 2, Abraham Lincoln he grew pass 6 foot 3, Andrew Jackson well he was a Six footer.
In terms of Height that's not very big in comparison to what The People's are describing these Giant's so Europeans were Pygmies an chances are they would have eaten them too.
I'm astonished for the simple reason that The Indigenous Peoples identify these Race of Giant's by Tribe. To me saying Tribe is a specific detail; so let me take a moment to share 8 of their name's with you Refamat which I have so far.
One more tidbit my spelling may be a bit off in writing their name's so bare with me.
Akageagankak>Yupik Indian Giant's
Avin>Alesa Incan Giant's
Basket Ogress>Northwest Coast Indian Giantess
Caodajo>Coldo Indian Giant's
Desasits>Shoshone Indian Giant's
Gray Giant's>Mavajo Indian Giant's
Ice Giant's>Algonquian Indian Giant's
Kee-Waka>Webanaki Indian Giant's
It is said that they were cannibals another persistent detail.
This is all I have to share now on the subject but, about those Footprints we would need the Indigenous People's to show us where those Footprints could be. Next time, Refamat.
Yes Refamat ...I know folklore is just folklore which is why I posted the link because too many people on this site seemn to think folklore is fact ! While some folklore may contain tiny seeds of truth for the most part it is a beautiful record of how the human mind tries to make sense of things without science :)
4cassandra
From what I can tell, legends about “giants” are mostly Astro-myths. Even Adam was a giant who spanned the sky in the midrashim. Most legendary giants and titans are centered around the constellation of Orion.
Hi ledom,
Funny you should mention Astro & Orion's Belt; because Chief Joseph River Wind of The Arawak People their The People's who first met Columbus in 1492, and thus began the Indigenous People's Holocaust.
Chief Joseph says that All of The Indigenous People's has Oral Stories of Giant's; He is not aware of any Tribe that doesn't have any Giant Stories.
Getting into Orions Belt ledom and Astro History; Chief Joseph was taught through Oral History; that the Seven Sister's which is today's Pleiades, an The Warriors Belt, today Orion's Belt, came The Star People.
The Warrior's Belt, is where These Star People come's from arriving on Earth, these Star People made themselves out to Earth's inhabitants appear godlike.
Chief Joseph's People were at first awed by these visitors after, seeing them display their abilities; The Arawak's reference too their abilities is Big Medicine.
Once these Deceptive Star People were thoroughly embedded in to The Live's of The People of Earth, they then proceeded to subjugate The Women of the Earth, an father children through these unfortunate women.
The Women did not survive these endeavors by The Star People, they died giving birth to Those Race of Giant's; that reminds me Astronomy, The Constellations, and Orion's Belt that was taught to The People of The Earth through these Star People.
Chief Joseph ascertain that it was these Race of Giant's that built everything present in The America's like the Mounds and The Pyramids because at that time people simply didn't have the kind of Technology it took to build these great wonders.
Chief Joseph does say that later Indigenous Tribes built stuff but, not in the same manner as the incredible building's by The Giant's.
These Giant's are described as barbaric, Sadistic, an Cruel. How cruel? In a narrative from Georgia once Territory to The Cherokee till The Indian Act of 1830, an The Trail of Tear's, a Giant lived besides The Cherokee People.
He was infamously known for picking an human being up biting there head off then holding up the unfortunate victim too drink their blood like they were an soda bottle and I for one am glad they are no longer here.
Interesting point that caught my attention apparently; There was a Great Flood that was caused to Kill off these Race of Giant's though it seems a few Giant's did Survive the Great Deluge.
Chief Joseph shared an Oral Story told by The Mohawks if memory serves me correct they would be The Iroquois; got fed up with Giant's who lived in fortified cities (I know where are the cities?), Allegenies in Pennsylvania.
Mohawks had a War Council to take on These Giant's but, most of The Iroquois refused they were forced to pay tribute to The Giant's; only The Huron agreed to fight, and so The Mohawks and The Huron made a Treaty that has lasted to this day.
The Battle wasn't easy but, The Mohawks and The Huron who feel through Their Spiritual Belief won the day and killed these Giant's The Huron buried Them.
The Huron knows where there bodies are so they would know where The Giant Footprints are located as well.
About written History The Mohawks did write the account of the War against these Giant's it's on a leather strip in terms of Timeline the History of This battle goes back by at least 1,000 year's.
Here's an idea why not we simply ask of The Indigenous People regarding these Race of Giant's about these perceived Impossibility of Giant's having existed.
So this is all I wish to share with you ledom on the Giant Footprints Discovered Globally it was your Astro Myth that caught my attention an Orion's Belt. Next time, Goodbye!
Jose Rivera (AKA Joseph Riverwind); Claims to be the chief of the extinct Arawak Taino tribe; First he claimed to be a Seminole of the Wind Clan, then he claimed to be a Cherokee of the Wolf Clan, now he's claiming……. Maybe you should check your sources.
Hi Refamat,
Considering what I've just learned by watching Film maker Raoul Peck HBO Documentary 4 part series Exterminate All The Brutes it's a shock anyone of Us exists at all.
Scary part this is still going on in 2021; so how long has it been since, 1492?
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