The small town ne the coal miners found certainly looks natural, the lump is not even centered. The big ones looks interesting though, but could still be natural... Seen small ones before that were. This is probably just st like the megalithic wall they found in Russia, which was also apparently just fractured granite!
You write:
"The research team [...] published the results of their findings in the journal Schnell & Stiener. The article is in German and is behind a pay wall." When I checked the link, I found this is not correct.
Schnell & Stiener is a publishing house, not a journal. And it is not an article behind a pay wall, but it is a book (of 256 pages).
“Hieroglyphics” refer to an ancient Egyptian style of writing dating from about 4000 BCE.
The Peterborough rock images are petroglyphs – images craved into rock.
The birthdates for most rock art petroglyphs are difficult to pin-point.
Many methods for obtaining their time of creation are speculative and lack scientific proof.
This may be why many scholars speculate about the possible age of a particular petroglyph.
For this particular petroglyph, the weathering of the incised rock images and growth of material within and beside the lines have indicated this was not a recent (within a few hundred years) creation.
You asked a great question that continues to puzzle most experts of rock art.
Thank you Ryan Stone for this very interesting article. The Egyptian Ogdoad is one of my favorite story of creation, especially for claiming the basic universal elements and their formative qualities for being eternal:
“Together the four (Edit Ivar double) concepts represent the primal, fundamental state of the beginning. They are what always was. In the myth, however, their interaction ultimately proved to be unbalanced, resulting in the arising of a new entity. When the entity opened, it revealed Ra, the fiery sun, inside. After a long interval of rest, Ra, together with the other deities, created all other things”.
“They are what they always was” goes against both the modern Big Bang formation theory and the orthodox understanding of the biblical telling of the creation. This mythical statement speaks of an eternal creation and the very principles of the creation of the itself.
The Ogdoad and the concept of Ra becomes even more interesting when looking at the Old Kingdom´s (cow)-goddess, Hathor who “had a very complex connection to Ra”, “At times she is the eye of Ra and considered his daughter, but she is also considered Ra's mother”.
“Hathor, along with the goddess Nut, was associated with the Milky Way during the third millennium B.C. when, during the fall and spring equinoxes, it aligned over and touched the earth where the sun rose and fell. The four legs of the celestial cow represented Nut or Hathor could, in one account, be seen as the pillars on which the sky was supported with the stars on their bellies constituting the Milky Way on which the solar barque of Ra, representing the sun, sailed”.
The Ogdoad states Ra to be the “first fiery entity” to be created – and Hathor is resembling the Milky Way. What can then “the complex (Milky Way) daughter/father-connection” between Ra and Hathor be?
Ra is usually thought and scholarly interpreted to represent the Sun, but the Sun isn´t the “first fiery entity” to be created in the Milky Way if taking the Hathor connection seriously. The first “fiery light” which is created is the central light of the Milky Way galaxy and therefore this light resembles ATUM-Ra who, “together with all elementary deities of creation created everything”
“Everything” in this connection means “everything in the ancient know part of the Universe”, namely the entire Milky Way galaxy, which light band can be observed all around the Earth. From the galactic central “fiery light”, Atum-Ra creates the galactic contours and all stars in the galaxy.
The Milky Way contours on the southern hemisphere looks very much as a great celestial woman (or a celestial cow), hence is goddess Hathor daughter of Amun-Ra – but “she” is also mother to the Sun, Ra, as well as Atum-Ra is “father to the Sun, Ra”.
Besides the very interesting Egyptian ancestral claim of an eternal and cyclical creation in the Ogdoad and the Hathor Milky Way connection, one can conclude that our Solar System once was created in the very center of the Milky Way and has slowly left the center i. e. was “driven out of the central garden creation of Eden”, an ancient biblical cosmological allegory of the factual creation.
Even modern observations confirms this “driven out” with the discovery of the “galactic rotation anomaly curve”, which indicates an outgoing motion from the center of the Milky Way, quite contrary to the gravity ideas of modern cosmology.
This is conclusively: Ancient knowledge supersedes by far the modern cosmological conceptions and explanations of the creation as such. There has been no beginning and there is no end – just creation, dissolution and re-creation in eternity.
I do not trust Dr Zahi Hawass, now he is dead we have a new chance to see what is what. Dr Zahi Hawass did not want any older civilisation than the Egyte one. Money and pride play a role here.
You call it an old wife's tale, i call Hawass a liar.
This article is very fascinating. I have been interested in ancient Egypt for many years and think the use of modern techniques techniques opens many new avenues for research.
Guarani means The People of the Forest and is a Bulgarian naming. Forest is Gora into Bulgarian language. Forest inhabitants are still called Gorani in Bulgarian language.
The Creation story was first narrated by Ancient Bulgarian sages in the oral tradition and on its basis all the sacred texts have been written down after the introduction of writing.
Ancient Bulgarians used to live in full harmony with nature and animals and animals took a speacial place in their spiritual rituals - Ancient Bulgarian peiests called zhretsi used to wear animal masks and wings.
Your article is well written, comprehensive and fascinating. I included a link of it in my article: Urnfield Vase Reveals 3,300 Year Old Lunar and Metaphysical Encoding.
Best regards,
Lewis Hales
Great writing Zakari, looking forward to more from you
Just one little mistake I think """One thing for certain is that the 10th century BC is a significant date to the pyramid builders""" I think you meant 10th millennium BC and not 10th century BC?
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The small town ne the coal miners found certainly looks natural, the lump is not even centered. The big ones looks interesting though, but could still be natural... Seen small ones before that were. This is probably just st like the megalithic wall they found in Russia, which was also apparently just fractured granite!
Thank you for pointing this out, Simone8. I don't read German. I edited the article.
You write:
"The research team [...] published the results of their findings in the journal Schnell & Stiener. The article is in German and is behind a pay wall." When I checked the link, I found this is not correct.
Schnell & Stiener is a publishing house, not a journal. And it is not an article behind a pay wall, but it is a book (of 256 pages).
Also noticed this mistake. Great article indeed.
The three statues show similarities to many ancient European figure statues.
Note the chevron (<<<<<< >>>>>>>) patterns along the shoulders and a style of beaded necklace.
The overall resemblance to Jōmon (ancient Japanese) statues is also interesting.
“Hieroglyphics” refer to an ancient Egyptian style of writing dating from about 4000 BCE.
The Peterborough rock images are petroglyphs – images craved into rock.
The birthdates for most rock art petroglyphs are difficult to pin-point.
Many methods for obtaining their time of creation are speculative and lack scientific proof.
This may be why many scholars speculate about the possible age of a particular petroglyph.
For this particular petroglyph, the weathering of the incised rock images and growth of material within and beside the lines have indicated this was not a recent (within a few hundred years) creation.
You asked a great question that continues to puzzle most experts of rock art.
Thank you Ryan Stone for this very interesting article. The Egyptian Ogdoad is one of my favorite story of creation, especially for claiming the basic universal elements and their formative qualities for being eternal:
Quote from – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogdoad#In_Egyptian_mythology
“Together the four (Edit Ivar double) concepts represent the primal, fundamental state of the beginning. They are what always was. In the myth, however, their interaction ultimately proved to be unbalanced, resulting in the arising of a new entity. When the entity opened, it revealed Ra, the fiery sun, inside. After a long interval of rest, Ra, together with the other deities, created all other things”.
“They are what they always was” goes against both the modern Big Bang formation theory and the orthodox understanding of the biblical telling of the creation. This mythical statement speaks of an eternal creation and the very principles of the creation of the itself.
The Ogdoad and the concept of Ra becomes even more interesting when looking at the Old Kingdom´s (cow)-goddess, Hathor who “had a very complex connection to Ra”, “At times she is the eye of Ra and considered his daughter, but she is also considered Ra's mother”.
From - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathor#Relationships.2C_associations.2C_im...
“Hathor, along with the goddess Nut, was associated with the Milky Way during the third millennium B.C. when, during the fall and spring equinoxes, it aligned over and touched the earth where the sun rose and fell. The four legs of the celestial cow represented Nut or Hathor could, in one account, be seen as the pillars on which the sky was supported with the stars on their bellies constituting the Milky Way on which the solar barque of Ra, representing the sun, sailed”.
The Ogdoad states Ra to be the “first fiery entity” to be created – and Hathor is resembling the Milky Way. What can then “the complex (Milky Way) daughter/father-connection” between Ra and Hathor be?
Ra is usually thought and scholarly interpreted to represent the Sun, but the Sun isn´t the “first fiery entity” to be created in the Milky Way if taking the Hathor connection seriously. The first “fiery light” which is created is the central light of the Milky Way galaxy and therefore this light resembles ATUM-Ra who, “together with all elementary deities of creation created everything”
“Everything” in this connection means “everything in the ancient know part of the Universe”, namely the entire Milky Way galaxy, which light band can be observed all around the Earth. From the galactic central “fiery light”, Atum-Ra creates the galactic contours and all stars in the galaxy.
The Milky Way contours on the southern hemisphere looks very much as a great celestial woman (or a celestial cow), hence is goddess Hathor daughter of Amun-Ra – but “she” is also mother to the Sun, Ra, as well as Atum-Ra is “father to the Sun, Ra”.
Besides the very interesting Egyptian ancestral claim of an eternal and cyclical creation in the Ogdoad and the Hathor Milky Way connection, one can conclude that our Solar System once was created in the very center of the Milky Way and has slowly left the center i. e. was “driven out of the central garden creation of Eden”, an ancient biblical cosmological allegory of the factual creation.
Even modern observations confirms this “driven out” with the discovery of the “galactic rotation anomaly curve”, which indicates an outgoing motion from the center of the Milky Way, quite contrary to the gravity ideas of modern cosmology.
This is conclusively: Ancient knowledge supersedes by far the modern cosmological conceptions and explanations of the creation as such. There has been no beginning and there is no end – just creation, dissolution and re-creation in eternity.
Regards
Ivar Nielsen
Natural Philosopher
Zmija means viper in Serbian too. :D Zmaj is dragon.
Great article - very interesting! I also like the fact that the author wasn't scared to note the faults of C14 dating
I do not trust Dr Zahi Hawass, now he is dead we have a new chance to see what is what. Dr Zahi Hawass did not want any older civilisation than the Egyte one. Money and pride play a role here.
You call it an old wife's tale, i call Hawass a liar.
"...but had been given the name derogatorily for apparently being an incompetent copulator."
Story of my life...
Ha, if only it really was an ancient screw/bolt, that would throw the scientific community into utter confussion!
Another intersesting article, could we have follow ups as the archaelogical work progresses?
A very interesting article, many thanks.
This article is very fascinating. I have been interested in ancient Egypt for many years and think the use of modern techniques techniques opens many new avenues for research.
Guarani means The People of the Forest and is a Bulgarian naming. Forest is Gora into Bulgarian language. Forest inhabitants are still called Gorani in Bulgarian language.
The Creation story was first narrated by Ancient Bulgarian sages in the oral tradition and on its basis all the sacred texts have been written down after the introduction of writing.
Ancient Bulgarians used to live in full harmony with nature and animals and animals took a speacial place in their spiritual rituals - Ancient Bulgarian peiests called zhretsi used to wear animal masks and wings.
yes ima eat it
Your article is well written, comprehensive and fascinating. I included a link of it in my article: Urnfield Vase Reveals 3,300 Year Old Lunar and Metaphysical Encoding.
Best regards,
Lewis Hales
Great writing Zakari, looking forward to more from you
Just one little mistake I think """One thing for certain is that the 10th century BC is a significant date to the pyramid builders""" I think you meant 10th millennium BC and not 10th century BC?
Cheers
Thank you very much.
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