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Which means there's something wrong with evidence collection.
Your either GOING to have prints or your not. One leads to one conclusion or the other.
All the evidence points to it being tracks so that avenue is set.
One reason for the point of my last post is it doesn't mean ALL the tracks were laid at the same time. What I was trying to say was you may have the bulk of the tracks from modern times but still have older tracks from ancient times. Like I said, there has to be some evidence that's been missed. Forgive me for not being clearer.
Regarding large creatures which if they had existed giants would be amongst them, I heard that the eye functions so well at the size of our own eye that large creatures such as elephants, whales and dinosaurs needed eyes of only our size or not much bigger. That would mean if giants existed their eyes need only be tiny in comparison to their body size, giving them dramatically different features to our own. nature wouldn't make them bigger than necessary. We don't hear of that in the legends and that's another reason I believe they are a creature of myth, just a scaled-up version of ourselves.
Some believe the myth was created to explain the construction of large stone monoliths.
"What we may be seeing is results of modern pollution in the atmosphere causing acid rain and modern vehicles. That would seem to fit "
Except that, we know the tracks are older then modern times. From the article above:
"He also quotes Sanzio from 1776, who wrote that 'In several maritime sites around the island of Malta, one could see deep cart ruts in the rock that extended for long distances into the sea'."
"He then adds that in 1912, R. N. bradley commented on cart ruts near Hagar Qim - noting that they ran "over the precipitous edge of the cliff towards Filfla""
Modern cars appeared only after.
When I was replying the last time I had Vesuvius in mind, my thought had been along the lines of if fallout from Vesuvius was occurring and a mass exodus at the same time but I don't think so. As you pointed out there is no foot prints nor horse or livestock tracks would seem to indicate a more modern means of transportation. What we may be seeing is results of modern pollution in the atmosphere causing acid rain and modern vehicles. That would seem to fit except for the tracks running into the water and off a cliff. The tracks going off the cliff can be explained via erosion but not into the water. I would like to know how deep those tracks go into the water. If there relatively close to the waters edge then they can be explained by being used by locals as a boat ramp or something but not if there depth goes to far. Unfortunately I haven't seen any reliable pictures to say one way or another. Maybe someone reading this has some?
"Basically if enough moisture (especially with acid such as acid rain) absorbs into the lime, it can become malleable like clay."
Hey Vlad, thanks for that.
"Unfortunately that means the track's could have been made anytime."
It seem like some tracks were used for excavations. That would makes sense: if I need stone for a temple I would happily use some which are already partially cut. So the tracks must be older then the excavations.
Another interesting point is that the tracks go under the sea level. The sea level rose between 20 k and 8-7 k years ago (continuing to now but at a much slower level)
Depending how deep the tracks go under the sea these must be older then the respective time - at least older then 7-8 k years.
Now for acid rain, I think a volcano would do it? If such is the case, if I search the list of big volcanic eruptions:
The eruption needs to be large enough to create acid rain in Malta and Turkey (or else there could be separate eruptions too/different time for the tracks). I take Vei 6 erruptions in Europe:
We get to Santorini 1610 BC, however the minoan eruption may be too late for the temple excavations and the sea level points.
Mount Vesuvius 2420 BC (Avellino eruption)
Mount Vesuvius 6940 BC (Mercato eruption) - could be a good candidate - depending how deep the tracks go under the actual sea level
Mount Vesuvius again 16300 BC (Campanian volcanic arc)
Campi Flegrei 35 k BC - This was a Vei 7 explosion, but here we are already to the time of the Neaderthals. Not sure how realistic is to go so far.
Another intriguing point with the tracks is that they are wide, seem to have been produced in the rock at one pass and there are no traces of animals or human pulling those tracks
The usage of cinnabar in red pigmentation, or tiny amounts of liquid mercury used on jewelry, do not exactly compare to the bulk amounts of liquid mercury detected beneath Qin Shi Huang, and now Teotihuacan.
Interesting that you bring up the mausoleum of Qin Shi Huang, however. You are right that it is another example in the ancient world where a vast amount of liquid mercury has been detected, but I'm not sure it supports your “nothing to see here" argument against Mike's post. For example, did you know the mausoleum is a pyramid? A large, squat pyramid. In China. A lot like the large, squat pyramids at Teotihuacan. In Mexico.
This similarity is usually brushed off as coincidental. You know, because when stacking a bunch of stones to make a monument, a pyramid-shape is easiest and makes the most logical sense, and all that.
Ok. But pyramids with huge amounts of liquid mercury hidden beneath them? Is that just coincidence too? Or merely practical engineering?
As to your other points, about all the evidence of use of mercury in trace amounts across mesoamerica....so what? There are primitive people in the americas today who use small amounts of gold to make jewelry and trinkets. Meanwhile, I'm writing this on a smartphone that contains small amounts of gold in its circuitry, and there are bank vaults that contain vast amounts of gold within them. The primitive jewelry is not evidence against my smartphone, or those bank vaults, is it?
April, from the commentary one can see or work out where each cave complex is, except Beit Guvrin-Maresha. Where is this please?
Perhaps there was no explosion, perhaps the captain simply set up a training exercise for the possibilty of problem occuring with the alcohol. Depending on the length of the Halyard, being far enough away from the ship, I would say that this exercise is an intelligent idea, apart from not leaving one person on board (during the exercise) to steer.
The real mystery is: How does an 8cm thick Halyard break? The second question is why was the halyard hanging over the side surely it would be trailing behind?
In my previous comment I meant the book ‘Aku Aku’ and not ‘Kon-tiki’ Ignore therefore that which is in brackets.
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Excellent point MikePo. Your perspective is refreshing and it is a thought that I have also had – and many others too.
HH, I would suggest that you keep the level of the discussion civilized. We are here to discuss and not insult each other.
Hey Lars, your closer to the answer than I was originally.
I remembered something I learned years ago from my grandfather who was heavy into geology. Limestone is nothing more than lime and calcified material. Lime itself never truly hardens. It was often used as morter in castle building for this exact reason.
Basically if enough moisture (especially with acid such as acid rain) absorbs into the lime, it can become malleable like clay.
Unfortunately that means the track's could have been made anytime.
I hope this helps some.
Here is a link to the geology of malta that may be of interest.
The moment you insult someone you lost the argument, I don't see the point in being so aggressive and insulting on multiple instances.
I think you completely missed my point, I never meant the later civilizations didn't use mercury for decoration purposes, I meant that the direct assumption that the mercury found was limited to decorative and religious/symbolic purposes is shortsighted.
The mercury found in and under the pyramid(s) had a purpose other than symbolic, there's other pyramids around the world where aquifers are right underneath, as well as mercury as "g st-laurent" pointed out.
There are so many pyramids in China that we haven't got to study because the Chinese government decided to bury them under dirt and use them for crop fields, go figure what we could find out about these if we had access to them.
For the different construction techniques and style its quite evident, just look at Machu Pichu, you will find megalithic blocks that fit perfectly, polygonal shapes that interlock with one another, blocks that weight multiple hundred tons, this type of construction is found through out the world, Giza, Baalbek, Other Maya/Aztec pyramids, Russia, Turkey, Peru, Italy and even some Temples in Japan and for China we can't really know, the list goes on.
Some Pyramids were built with perfectly interlocking blocks of multiple hundred tons without any mortar. As you may now, we still use mortar today for brick construction as it stabilizes the construction, except this megalithics blocks did not need mortar given their interlocking shapes and perfect fit.
Why would suddenly the Aztec, Mayans, Egyptians build smaller pyramids out of small rounds rocks, or rectangular but soft rocks with mortar, as much more primitive technique, did they forget how to create those megalithic structures?
Here's a few sites you can search images and compare the building styles, you will notice in many of them there are different layers of construction techniques, generally megalithic blocks interlocking perfectly without any mortar a the bottom, simpler techniques on top of it.
-Khafre Valley Temple (Egypt)
-Menkaure Pyramid (Egypt) bottom of the pyramid still has the original walls made out of granite
-Cusco walls (Peru)
-Alaca Höyük (Turkey)
- Edo Shigetsugu (Japan)
-Norba, Mycenae, Cosa, Alatri (Athens)
Those are just a few and if you spend a few minutes to search images of these sites.
According to official history, different civilizations built them, at different time frames, no connection between the civilizations since they had not intercontinental travel back then (according to official history), yet exactly the same building materials and style are found through-out the world, this is no coincidence, there are too many similarities, many of these locked the blocks in place with copper filled buttery joints, according to official history the butterfly join used for wooden construction was invented and came from the Egyptians, but these other sites around the world pre-date that and have the exact same butterfly joints made with copper.
So this and the mercury and aquifers under multiple pyramids around the world is why I think we should ask ourselves if the pyramids were built by an earlier civilization and not the later ones we believe built them and used them for religious purposes while mixing more primitive culture and building techniques.
Vlad, thank you for your feedback!
I am thankful to the author(s) for bringing this, as many other very interesting history facts for review. A post has limited space and is unfortunately not exhaustive of the subject.
I still have found no explanation for the tracks and as John Oakley said below: "could it be that these "cart tracks" ...were formed when the rock was still soft and forming?"
The ship explanation was a reasonable one, but I understand we agree it does not stand when looking at the whole picture.
If your connection allows - I understand it is slow :( - and you are interested in further tracks, maybe you can also have a look at the youtube link I posted the 24th below.
If one looks there at the 4:57 mark or 12:46 it just looks like the tracks were done by "something" when the rock was soft.
Indeed very intriguing and interesting tracks :)
This makes sense what so ever. I am personally surprised this article was even published, usually this site does not post such twaddle.
"Great Post"? Hardly.
Mikepo, I have never seen such a hypocritical post. You say that "archeologists are simply making things up without any evidence on how these civilizations thought or lived" yet you go ahead and speculate without any evidence to back up your own assertions. I think if anybody is qualified to make any assumptions about this subject, its the people who have worked and studied these things first hand. But you don't even have to go that far my friend. A quick google search of cinnabar shows that it was commonly used to decorate objects in many civilizations around the world. There is a lot of evidence pointing to its ritual use in Mesoamerica. One good example is at Lamanai where "at the large temple there was a single ball court, where an offering had been placed under its giant central marker. A lidded bowl contained 100g of crystalline hematite, 19 g of cinnabar in a miniature vessel, and other objects such as jade, shell, and pearl, all atop of a pool of mercury. Previously mercury had been found at Copan, Quirigua, and at Kaminaljuyo and lake Amtitlan..." If that's not proof of ritual use, I don't know what is. You can also find the use of cinnabar in the burial of the Red Queen who was found covered with the substance. You don't think the archaeologists verified these substances with scientific analysis? For another example of mercury use please read up on the tomb of Qin Shi Huang, where a river of mercury also likely exists. And as for your assertion regarding the the different layers of construction, I'm not sure how that's evidence of anything you mention. If anything, it's what one would expect with some building techniques. It only logical to place smaller items on top of larger ones and not vice versa. And did you consider that these buildings eventually required repair which was not up to the same standards? You can find examples of this ANYWHERE in the world.
Please do some actual research first before posting your nonsense.
It boggles my mind how arrogant and hypocritical people can be.
This article is indeed misleading, and outright wrong in at least one place. It says "In the New Testament Michael leads God's armies against Satan's forces in the Book of Revelation, where during the war in heaven he defeats Satan." That's wrong. The wars in Revelation are not in Heaven. They are on the earth. Furthermore I have to wonder, how can a 1300 year-old mummy have a tattoo of ancient Greek? Wasn't ancient Greek out of use at that time?
So I heard there were 2 theories about their skulls being elongated.
1. Was their hats and crowns and that they were shaped like that from birth
2. Was also that deformities caused it due to incest.
Lars, thank you for the link and additional information. I concede to your point and your correct in that I was relying on the Author to provide UNbiased information in the article. A combination of slow internet and to much alternate research had led to my sloppy hypothesis.
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