Skeleton of a giant found in Romania.

Exposing the Secret History of Giants and the Underground Hyperborean Gallery in Romania

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With Rosia Montana being a mining area, a number of interesting discoveries have been unearthed there over the years – one of the most interesting being a skeleton of a 10 meter (32.8 feet) tall giant which was found in 1976.

About 5,500 years ago, an underground gallery was constructed in the region by the Agathyrsi. In February 2012, a group of geologists followed the gold vein in the same place. They kept digging until they ended up at the base of the gallery. To their utter surprise, they found a gravestone which was definitely not made of common rock. The geologists took a sample, and the laboratory results revealed that the components of the tombstone included 55% 50 karat gold dust, 15% granite dust and 30% wolfram. Also, the analysis revealed that the composite rock had been made using a type of technology unknown today.

The Hyperborean Gallery

Known by the name of “The Hyperborean Gallery” or “Gallery 13”, the place of this amazing discovery is located beneath Cornea village. A number of other discoveries were made at the site in 1976. However, in the name of “security” the anthropological and archaeological discoveries were deemed too unusual and shocking for the time, so the gallery was permanently sealed.

The gravestone was not the only unusual item found inside the gallery. On it, archaeologists found a 10 meter (32.8 ft.) tall skeleton of a giant. Apparently, the giant had been buried there after his death, with his legs gathered on one side. Lacking the proper equipment necessary to analyze such a find, the skeleton was sent to Moscow. Unfortunately, nothing has been reported about the giant ever since.

The discovery of a skeleton that measures 10 meters or 32.8 Feet.

The discovery of a skeleton that measures 10 meters or 32.8 Feet. ( Oculto Revalado A Verdade )

As for the tombstone, a new series of research was planned to analyze it in 2012. The relic was dug up once again and measurements showed that it was six meters (19.7 feet) wide, twelve meters (39.4 feet) long and three meters (9.8 feet) tall. It weighed almost 1700 tons and contained somewhere around 900 tons of solid gold. To make a comparison, such a quantity of gold would have required over twenty years of mining work to gather. The last thing known about the gravestone is that it had been cut up into 80 smaller pieces in order to make its transportation possible. As for its destination, it is not known where it lies today.

One of the archaeologists working in Gallery 13 took a set of photos with the gravestone and sent them to a paleolinguist. The latter noticed emerald green bas-relief writing covering the entire surface of the artifact. The text had been written in three parallel rows which started in the upper left. From there, the writing descended diagonally, similar to a serpent, and formed a spiral around a wolf head. Finally, the script ended in the lower right corner. The paleolinguist speculated that the unknown writing could be Pelasgian and that the discovery with its markings and writing clearly possessed great cultural and historical value. Nevertheless, the gravestone was cut and melted. The state obtained a share of 19 pieces, 31%, as stipulated in the local gold exploitation contract.

During the excavation, the lifting of the gravestone also revealed the entrance to a pit. The four meter (13.1 feet) diameter pit had a descending spiral stairway and a milky violet light radiated from the inside. A closer inspection of the stairs made it clear that they looked as if cut into the walls of the pit by a laser and, as for the violet light, nobody could determine its source.

Curious to find the source of the light and to see what was inside, the paleolinguist descended into the pit, but nobody else proved brave enough to join him. The night passed and the man never returned from the pit.

Ultimately, the army sealed the entry to the pit, as well as the entire Gallery 13, with cement. Those present never talked about the discoveries again - as they had been made to sign confidentiality agreements, therefore what lies beyond the staircase of the pit remains a mystery.

Romanian Giant Legends

Depending on the region of Romania where the legends come from, there are different names for giants. In the Boziorul area, giants are known as “tartars” (“tartari”), for example. A number of unusually tall skeletons have been uncovered at Scaieni, in Buzaului Mountains. For instance, when locals tried to plant apple trees on a hill, they accidentally discovered humanoid skeletons of over 2.4 meters (8.2 feet) tall along with pottery fragments.

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You know, I come to this site because it is one of the few sites that approaches Archaeology in a professional manner. But between Giants and Anti-matter Entities I think it's time I moved on. I'd go to Message from Eagle if I wanted woo.

Jack, I can understand that you might be put off on this topic, but there are plenty of other things on this site to read about. No one is forcing you to read, or believe in this particular subject.

That being said, there are too many stories, accounts and/or pictures from the past that point to this being factual. As the saying goes, 'History is made by those who have conquered. There seems to be a concerted effort to keep evidence of this from the publics eye. This, coupled with the lack of interest by the masses, makes it far easier to cover up, and never come to light.

Then, when you only see it come out on the History channel as a show, or on here in articles, it becomes much less credible. It is either the Museum of Natural History or the Smithsonian, (I cannot remember which) who have had the bones, and they have mysteriously disappeared. Scientists have come forward in the past, and have said as much.

I am not saying that there isn't a chance this is a false or faked story, but there is too much evidence to dismiss it completely.

He believe, he knows that is real, true, but he want to seed doubt on the minds of the people who comes to read, to investigate some of the past history of our planet, because they are curious of all those things that are being discovered and some organizations and some people want those things to be hide from the general public. Their reason? Who knows...

the answer is simple . read the biblical account,genesis 6,4.this started long ago.why does the smithsonian want to cover it up or deny them because that would mess up there evolution millions of years theory and you believe you came from a monkey.

Dear Jack,

I agree with you! Myths stem from actual occurrences, although as the stories pass from generation to generation, the myths become exaggerated. Nevertheless, there have been many discoveries/archaeological finds that do get "swept under the rug", so to speak. What interests me the most is the fact that someone would try to hide truth rather than confirm what most people already believe.

In light of voluminous evidence of larger than average humans from all over the world, I am afraid that I don't really understand how a topic like this can be so far outside of someone's comfort zone that they are motivated to formulate a disparaging post in response.

I salute AO on their very even-handed examinations of archaeological discoveries which do not fit into the dreary little world of mainstream dogma.

 

It's difficult, perhaps impossible, for some people to accept the truth when it comes to giant skeletons. A great example is the unexplainable existence of DNA. It's statistically impossible for DNA to have randomly evolved over 13.7 billion years - the current estimate of the age of the Universe. Frick himself admitted that it was an impossibility. But to accept that fact would overturn science's evolutionary timescale. How therefore to resolve this without admitting to an intelligent creator?

Scientists have come up with the ludicrous idea of panspermia! For them, it's easier to believe that aliens designed DNA and somehow deposited on Earth than it is to accept the alternative. Jack Dunfey is one of those people who doesn't dare abandon the belief of the herd of sheep that he belongs to.

Paul in Romans connects observing Creation, which all people see, as revealing God’s unseen character—the all-powerful Deity. Cf. Old Testament parallel to these verses is Psalm 19:1-6. (A cosmic code which nobody can erase!) Also, Psalm 8:1-4 and Psalm 148.
Paul’s conclusion to this description of natural revelation is important—all men are without excuse. The witness to God in nature is so clear and so constant that ignoring it is indefensible. Their condemnation is based not on their rejecting Christ of whom they have not heard, but on their sinning against the light they do have.
It is significant that our society militantly insists on teaching our young people bad science to perpetuate the myth of spontaneous biogenesis, etc., which is the basis of our philosophy, psychology, political theories, and our culture.

From Chuck Misslers study on the book of Romans.
Michael Denton, Evolution A Theory in Crisis, Adler and Adler, Bethesda MD,
1986.
Michael J. Behe, Darwin’s Black Box, Simon and Schuster, New York NY, 1996.
Phillip E. Johnson, Darwin on Trial, InterVarsity Press, Downers Grove IL, 1993.
Roger Penrose, The Road to Reality, Knopf, 2005.
Frank J. Tipler, The Physics of Immortality, Doubleday, NY, 2000; The Physics of
Christianity, Doubleday, NY, 2007.
Guillerno Gonsolez & Jay W. Richards, The Privileged Planet, 2004

No one claims that DNA has evolved over 13+ billion years. That is when the earth itself came into being. Life didn't appear until a little over 4 billion years ago.

Who says? Prove it!!

Many things are unexplained/unexplainable. That doesn't automatically mean by default that a magic invisible, all powerful spirit in the sky made them, that is Bronze Age thinking. There is more real evidence for aliens than there is for the Supergod. Humans have a great deal of trouble admitting to themselves, and saying, 'We don't know', especially 'educated' folks. If the DNA researchers are correct that our DNA has 'knowledge switches', and correct when they say some of them are "turned off", we don't know, and can't now. What we do know is that we don't know everything about DNA yet, so some of what we know now, may change. What I can say in favor of the scientific discipline is that they continue the pursuit of knowledge, unlike those who rest upon the unfounded claims of religion. As for my 60 some years of trying to learn, I have learned that the more I find out, the more I find out which I don't know. It seems that for every question I find an answer for, four or more questions pop up that need to be answered. Truth is a word I have necessarily eliminated from my vocabulary. Learning how to examine evidence has been a huge boon in advancing knowledge.

Thank You

I gotta say ... someone has a vivid imagination. Extraordinary beliefs require extraordinary proofs. There is, as always on this topic, absolutely no verifiable information in this article. If you want to be taken seriously (at least by me) produce some hard evidence.

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Yeah? Who decides what is "extraordinary"?

We live within a universe that is in excess of 14,000,000,000 years old, on a planet that is about 4,000,000,000 years old, in a biosphere that has existed for up to 2,000,000,000 years; modern humans have been around for perhaps 250,000 years, though only 8,000 years of that is recorded history. Modern science has been around for 400 years or so, and current scientists have been here for 80-100 years tops, more like 40, on average.

So when they say "extraordinary", they base that on their experience of roughly %0.00032 of the sum total of humanity's period of existence, and about %0.00000004 of the timespan of life on earth.

A bit lacking in the credibility department in terms of being able to define what is or is not "extraordinary", don't you think?

The Bible plainly speaks of a race of people who were giants, the Philistines, in the recounting of David, in his youth, slaying Goliath in I Samuel chapter 17. Goliath's height is listed as "six cubits and a span". The measurement of a cubit is described as the distance from the elbow to the fingertips. Historically, this varied between different groups of people, from the Hebrew measurement of 17.45", to the Babylonians at 18.8", and the Egyptian at 20.6". The commonly accepted length today is 18". The length of a span is from the tip of the thumb to the tip of the little finger when the hand is outstretched, commonly accepted as 9".
Thus, Goliath would have been between 9.5' and 11' in height, depending upon which measurement was used for a cubit. Regardless of which was used, Goliath qualified as a giant person.
There are many historical and Biblical references to exceptionally tall peoples of ancient times, so why is there such a hullabaloo and/or disbelief over finding skeletons of "giants" from ancient times?
Do some research and discover where Romania fits into the historic landscape tapestry of ancient times, and where the giants of old are said to have resided.
On another point in the article: It is interesting to read the references about the bones "disappearing" after having been discovered, dug up and removed, seen by many, some bones being displayed, and their authenticity relatively uncontested?
Now, that is the mystery to me.

The bible is just the collected myths and legends of the desert cultures, sure some of it may also be based on actual events too - an oral history that was written down. It's really no different than Celtic or Norse myths and legends etc etc

There is one main difference, but no use mentioning Him, I don't expect. I would be curious to know if you have in fact read the Bible, and if you have, did you read it with an open mind, and were you open to the Divine Presence? The evidence of a Creator is all around. The belief does not require evidence. Not everything is Empirical. Faith, for example. Everyone has Faith in something. What is your Ultimate Concern. Mine is my Relationship with God and being open to the Divine Presence in my life. To dismiss the possibility so cavalierly is, it seems to me, ShortSighted.

Don't start preaching here Reverend, you and your beliefs are no different than any ancient Celt and his faith in Crom Dubh the father God or his belief in the tales of the Tuatha De Dannan or any Viking and his belief in Odin his father God and Valhalla where he goes after he dies. It's exactly the same thing. The bible is full of tales and beliefs that are mirrored in cultures far older than Judaism or Christianity, cultures and belief systems that you would no doubt dismiss as pagan.

The Dannan were real, an earlier people of Ireland and supposedly went underground as they were cheated out of their lands with the agreement they made with the invaders...they may have even fled to the Americas after they were defeated in battle. They may have also been of the peoples that gave rise to our later ideas of 'elves'. The bible does mention that the elder Gods, were the fallen 'angels, and that these are what we call demons today. Powers and principalities. Some may still be physically alive and not just spirit entities.

thank you, well said.
- a modern druid from northwest america.

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The Bible is not a book of myth and no matter how much you and your own ministers continue preaching the evolutionary fairy tales, they will never be anythng other than that.

In your world, it happened long ago and far away kids, you just ave to believe e, because I reference “real” scientists” who taught me that evolution happenes so slowly that we can’t actually observe it. Or, if you’re of the P.E. faith, change happened so fast we can’t see it. Amen.

Yeah it is, it's a book of myths, legends and semi historical tales, ideas and philosophies. It's the collected tales and beliefs of the people who wrote it. A lot of it has it's origins in ancient Sumer and Egypt. There are equivalent Gaelic collections for example, full of the same sorts of moral tales, genealogies, adages, blessings, histories both real and semi legendary etc etc. It's just that People don't take them as gospel so to speak. You and your fundamentalist, medieval and closed mindset Bronzesnake, would have your nearest equivalent these days in the backward Muslims of places like Afghanistan. I know you're going to reply to this with some more hocus pocus, mumbo jumbo, So I don't know why I'm bothering really. Though I do understand now why a more advanced alien civilisation would be unwilling to engage us humans directly until we had grown up a bit and embraced rational thought.

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Quote – A lot of it has it's origins in ancient Sumer and Egypt.”

Ya, I’ve heard all that baloney many times before, and it might fly with a majority of people, even Christians, who have not researched for themselves.

I have been researching this stuff for decades,a nd that will not fly with me.

Give me specofocs, and i’ll demolish anything you think you have anytime.

The days where you non believers can fake out the Christians are pretty mcuh over. We’re educated, we’ve done the YEARS of study and we know THE TRUTH. Those old tactics just won’t work anymore.

Show me specfics. any fool can blow-hard in generalities.

 

Jack

www.theliteralbible.com

Amen= Egyptian god Amun Mish mash of wishful thinking mixed with infantile bondage of spiritual progress. Too sad. Wake up and smell the Gnosis. Respectfully-not. Dennis

As for the Bible being a collectioin of myths, it would be best to pay attention to those 'myths', which early archaeologists did and were able to discover previoiusly unknown cities because they did, Troy being one of their major finds. The bible is what survived, coming down to us though the ages, and origionating with the Sumerians, those who origionally settled the land after leaving Eden. Nowdays, with the old cuniform tablets being unearthed and translated, we can flesh out the pre-flood information that is so summarized and scanty in the Bible, and it makes for very interesting reading indeed.

For future discoveries, it is vital that even the most improbable tales not be thrown out but compaired with others, and the formerly sealed up underground ways reopened. With modern scanning technology more can be accomplished that in the past. OH, by the way, South African diamond and gold miners occasionaly run into extremely ancient mine tunnels and vent shafts...when they do, they do not explore them but seal them up.
Theres a reason for that...no one wants to encounter and disturb possible underground inhabitants. Supposedly not just American Indians but also some miners / explorers have, and for the most part, keep details of the enterence locations to themselves.

goliath had 4 brothers.... thats why david picked five stones.... also later davids heros slew several other giants in the canaan valley.some of these were called kings and some had 6 fingers and toes and double rows of teeth.

Correct. One can visit South America and see giant skeletons the Smithsonian never got their fingers on. There are 150 years of numerous newspaper articles documenting the many discoveries of giant skeletons.... all over the USA. Science has always tried to stand against the Bible and an almighty creator. Discoveries are hidden, proof is hidden, scientific credentials lost when those few dare to speak the truth. The Rothschilds and their NWO luciferian agenda cannot come to fruition if the Bible is proven to be true. Hence the cabal controls it all for they write the rules and control the money. Sadly they try to keep us in their false matrix of lies and absurdities.

Skeletons that have disappeared, having been sealed up for "security" purposes;
Gold tombstones that disappeared into then-Soviet Russia and never resurfaced;
Dodgy camera angles that skew perspective...

Good grief, AO, you'll be telling us that Dark Matter really exists next!

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OK if you don’t like this specific evidence, there is loads of real, observable, touchable elongated skulls, with a mix of human and unknown genetic materials, start your new life away from evolution magic tales, and get into the real evidence that you can actually study here and now.

 

You can’t deny the Exodus any longer, unless you squeeze your eyes,a nd ears shut really tightly, and sing a happy song to drown out truth.

The evidence is piling up, and it’s not the kind that starts out with “long ago and far away kids”

Ok, so we know humanoids have been living on this planet for quite a while.
Even more than 10k years ago.

We also know that in ancient times, the living animals and plants were bigger than they are now (Megafauna).
Now, we also acknowledge humanoids as a animal species.
So it is very likely possible that giant humanoids once roamed this planet, being part of the Megafauna of old.

The thing that really grinds my gears though, is that it seems like most of these findings are 'swept under the rug' with quite a hurry.
I ask why? Why is it so horrible for as laymen to learn about exinct giant humanoids?
I mean.. we also learned about giant Salamanders and Gecko's (read: dinosaurs).
Nobody got freaked out by that! We even have a few blockbuster movies with Dino's as the lead role!

It really just grinds my gears.

In the first part of this article it states that gold of 50 karat was found in the tombstone. I am a jeweler. There is no such thing as 50 karat gold. The highest nomenclature used is 24 karat and that is a fact. It means that 24 out of 24 karats are gold and this has been the standard for pure gold for hundreds of years...possibly thousands. There is no such thing as more than pure! Pure gold is in fact 24 karat gold. For example, 14 K or 14 karat gold is 14/24ths pure and 18K means 18/24ths pure or 75% pure if you do the arithmetic.

When an article starts off like this I automatically place tongue in cheek. There are a couple other anomalies about the article that sent red flags up. I'm not saying taller than 6 ft. humans never existed, the Watusi tribe n Africa has many who are over 7ft tall for example. And I'm not saying that even taller humans haven't roamed this planet either...most likely they did, but proof is proof and these skeletons never seem to be actually proven or in a museum. I don't think it is some sort of conspiracy either... I only ask, where are they NOW?

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I noticed that also, but it appears to be a typo – look again –

“The geologists took a sample, and the laboratory results revealed that the components of the tombstone included 55% 50 karat gold dust, 15% granite dust and 30% wolfram. “

 

I’m guessing the “50” was a mistake. The rest of the paragraph describes some unknown technology to produce the composite.

“Also, the analysis revealed that the composite rock had been made using a type of technology unknown today.”

I’m no expert, so I will refer back to you sir. Does that explanation make sense? Thank you for the post.

 

Jack

www.theliteralbible.com

romania is freaky mysterious in my book. Lol !!

over 200% pure? 24 is as high as it gets. what else is BS

BTW..
The picture with the dude next to the skeleton is obviously photoshopped. Look at the edges of the dude.
Those have been altered by the 'smudge' tool from PS.

Shame. Started reading this thinking it would be one of those articles connecting mythology to archaeology but found the giant bones story yet more compelling. Then, enter the part about closing down a gallery because its contents are "shocking", and then the government throws preservation out the window to melt down gold for profit, blahblah... How is it that one can spend considerable time researching a subject without the discerning eye for pseudoarchaeology, or perhaps the author knows it's BS but is more interested in having fun than making an academic contribution? Either way, I wasted my time. Wish the following references had been listed before the introductory paragraph:
“Supernatural in the Land of Count Dracula”
“Paranormal”
“Dictionary of Mysteries”

Physics and Biology do not allow for this ridiculous fraud to happen. Unless Gravity was cut by 75% or these "giants" have Titanium bones, this creature would die under its own weight. 10 meter creatures who stand up? What a joke. History and Science are not mutually exclusive.

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Quote - "Physics and Biology do not allow for this ridiculous fraud to happen. "
Wrong. Evolutionist, atheists don't allow for these facts. Science - biology cannot accept or reject anything.
The quest to invent evolutionary "facts" has been going on in earnest, from Darwin's time and nothing corroborating evolution has been seen in the fossils, or in genetics.
So why are you still searching again?
"science" is supposed to be an honest search for TRUTH, regardless of where the evidence leads. But right from the very start, the evolutionists hi-jacked scientific endeavour and before any searching commenced the rules were stamped on it.
NO GOD. regardless of whether there is a God, and there is, or not. The second you place conditions of a search for true facts, you leave honest, open science behind and you step in a huge stinking pile of indoctrination. Get as mad and indignant as you want to, that is reality whether you like it or not.
A new generation of honest scientists have taken back the real, and honest scientific search.
Stephen Meyer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl802lHAk5Y
Quote - "Unless Gravity was cut by 75% or these "giants" have Titanium bones, this creature would die under its own weight. 10 meter creatures who stand up"?
So you don't believe in dinosaurs, elephants?
That's very interesting.
Science tells us there was a much different atmosphere in the past, because the huge dinosaur, like the Sauropods have nostrils the size of a horse's and could not exist today.
A ten, or thirty foot tall human could absolutely live today. There are nine footers documented, and even photographed..
Quote - "What a joke. History and Science are not mutually exclusive"
So you're admitting these giants are historical reality then?
This is very typical of evolutionists, anything they don't believe is a "joke"
Jack
www.theliteralbible.com
 

If elephants walked on their back legs maybe you'd have a point. Im not an evolutionist necessarily, assuming makes an ass out of you and me, I KNOW there is a higher power, something bigger than us all, but I require proof that other people can verify. Not stories... Though they are very entertaining. Honestly, I hope your right, but hope isn't proof. Until that time, I guess Im just a blind man who believes the propaganda.

If elephants walked on their back legs maybe you'd have a point. Im not an evolutionist necessarily, assuming makes an ass out of you and me, I KNOW there is a higher power, something bigger than us all, but I require proof that other people can verify. Not stories... Though they are very entertaining. Honestly, I hope your right, but hope isn't proof. Until that time, I guess Im just a blind man who believes the propaganda.

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Hello Donald.

Quote - "If elephants walked on their back legs maybe you'd have a point."
I'm not sure how walking on back legs could be relevant. T-Rex then?
Quote - "I'm not an evolutionist necessarily, assuming makes an ass out of you and me,"
Really? I wish that saying could be retired.
Hey, I get it, I really do because I was there also.
The thing I decided to do was to make an honest effort in researching things for myself.
There are just too many agendas for me to accept the "truth" from others.
Once I began to look into "evidence" to corroborate the scriptures, I very quickly discovered God has left an embarrassment of proof for us, and that is why He said there will be no excuses at judgement day.
Some of the most "unbelievable" Biblical accounts have very, very powerful, and observational proof to corroborate these are the truth, and not just made up, or plagiarized from other ancient muth.
Quite often someone will post how the Bible is just a bunch of stolen ancient Egyptian myth.

Well, it doesn't take very long to compare these so called stolen myths to the actual scriptures which are claimed to have been copied. There is absolutely, 100% no doubt that these ancient myths have nothing in common with the scriptures.
I did the research for myself. You will see all kinds of specific scriptures posted, with the so called "proof" from the ancient myth, and on the face it does appear to be devastating. Trust me, if I found any real proof that the scriptures were plagiarized, I would be converted back to the "religion" I was practicing prior to becoming a born again Christian.
What was my previous religion? Pure heathen. lol!
I was lead singer and writer for three decades and yes I did live that lifestyle. I did not want to give it up, but the evidence for scriptures was so powerful, that I would be forced to suppress it so I could continue my drugging, drinking, and womanizing. I loved all that, and yet I did give it all up.
If you need evidence, it's at your fingertips. Do a Google search on the following
Exodus proof - giant skeletons discovered in North America, and the world - Elongated skulls - genetic testing on elongated skulls.
Now if you are honestly seeking THE truth, as opposed to A truth, you will have very little doubt that the entire Bible is accurate, unadulterated, and true in every detail.
Those who just cannot stand the thought of an interfering God will simply stamp HOAX on everything, regardless of the fact that there is real OBSERVATIONAL evidence, as opposed to evolution, which is 100% based on faith, and philosophy.
A typical example is the complete lack of even one single real, series of graduated, transitional fossils.
You will be called stupid, dumb, ignorant etc, etc, there will be all kinds of claims of these missing G.T.F. and yet whenever I ask for proof of these G.T.F. all I have EVER got back was "well, you can't directly observe it, because it happens way too slow" and so here's another way of articulating that faith - "hey kids, long ago and far away..."
Quote - "I KNOW there is a higher power, something bigger than us all, but I require proof that other people can verify. Not stories... Though they are very entertaining. Honestly, I hope your right, but hope isn't proof. Until that time, I guess Im just a blind man who believes the propaganda."
Believing in a "higher power" is not good enough for Jesus Christ brother.
Satan, and Lucifer worshipers also believe in a "higher power" and they will not be entering Heaven.
Being a "good" person and doing all kinds of charity work will not get you forgiven and will not get you into Heaven either. The scriptures say all our good work is like filthy rags to God.
Brother, I would urge you to take a closer look for yourself, because the Holy Bible is God's word. Now I get the typical evolution/atheist rebuttals, where they state the Bible has been changed, and is full of mistakes, and yet again, whenever I ask for specifics, there's nothing but the sounds of crickets chirping away.
The Dead Sea Scrolls corroborate the precise accuracy of the Holy Bible.
There is more and more real, observational evidence for scriptures almost on a monthly basis.
The Holy Bible is hands down vastly superior in the tiny gap from the actual events, and the oldest copies.
Some of the Acts have been dated to a couple of years, and closer!
There are over 28,000 ancient Bible copies, in several different languages, and these have all been used to cross reference the Bible, and the end result was that the Holy Bible we have today, is virtually identical to the oldest, ancient manuscripts.
Compare that with any other "famous" person from history, such as Julius Caesar. The oldest copy of his biography is 900 years after the fact, and yet no one squawks about Caesar being a mythological character invented by the Romans.
Check out any other ancient manuscripts and you'll discover the same issues.
Anyway, if I can be of any assistance for you in your search for The truth, please feel free to send me an e-mail and I will get back to you within 24 hours maximum.
You can contact me through my site, which I'll link at the bottom of this post.
If you want to check out more proof, you can visit my site, which is almost complete after I did a complete rebuild.
Still, you can find a lot of very good, solid evidence there.
Take care brother.
Jack
www.theliteralbible.com
 

Hey Jack,

I appreciate the thoughtful response. Kind of a rarity these days. I will definitely do my own research as I am not one to take the given narrative. I like your comparison with Caesar, interesting. I do have a couple of personal squabbles... For one, who is right? Catholics? Baptists? Methodists? Orthodox? Lutheran? Presbyterian? Evangelicals? Jews? Mormons? Just as long as the word Jesus is in your prayers, your good? What about good Buddhists or Muslims who believe in their heart of hearts their savior (or lack thereof) is the true God/Path? They believe just as strongly as you do. My best friend is probably the most Christ-like person i have ever met, yet he is a devout Buddhist and will never accept Jesus, just like you will never follow Buddha. How do you reconcile that or those folks who died, never hearing of Christ, let alone accepting him? I also take huge issue with the idea that all sin is equal. Pardon my language, but Bullshit if raping or torturing an innocent child is the same as saying Goddamnit. I don't want to meet the God who made those rules. Lastly, I was raised in a God fearing family and tried really hard to speak to the Big Man to no avail. I personally can't just say words like, "I accept Jesus" unless I TRULY believe it, without a doubt, otherwise Im lying to myself and God. Maybe I'll have a revelation like you did, until then, I have to say Im agnostic, I don't know what the hell to believe.

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Hello Donald.

Quote - "Hey Jack, I appreciate the thoughtful response. Kind of a rarity these days"
Of course Don. I always have the same respect as I am given. A flaw I do battle with is being sarcastic with people who attack me, or insult etc. But I am working on it! lol!

Quote - "I will definitely do my own research as I am not one to take the given narrative."
That's the only way you'll ever be truly satisfied with the answers you discover. 

Quote - "I like your comparison with Caesar, interesting"
I found a site which compares several ancient sources compared to the Bible
 https://carm.org/manuscript-evidence

Quote - "I do have a couple of personal squabbles... For one, who is right? Catholics? Baptists? Methodists? Orthodox? Lutheran? Presbyterian? Evangelicals? Jews? Mormons?"
Good question, and I get this one a lot.
OK, as for the many denominations - I don't refer to myself in relation to any denomination. I am a Christian, and I have learned through many years and lots of research that the King James Version is the one Bible that I trust.
It is virtually identical to the dead Sea Scrolls, as well as many of the over 28,000 other ancient, early Biblical manuscripts.

As for the Mormons, or Jehovah's Witnesses - it doesn't take long to read through their heretical books and you'll discover many serious problems, same with the Koran. read Revelation 22:19 -
"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

The Holy Bible was circulated very shortly after the actual events described within. There were many people alive when the books were written, and circulated who were eyewitnesses to the actual events, and you can search until you are blue in the face, and you will NOT find any sources saying  "Hey, I was there and this is not what happened" etc.

The heretical books were put together hundreds, or over a thousand years after the fact, which are very seriously against the Revelation 22 warning.
It's very important whenever we're searching for information to research as many sources as you can.

So, to answer your question, I have personally found the Catholic church to be less than Godly.
Now to be perfectly clear - I am NOT referring to the parishioners. The Catholic church blatantly disobey many of the warnings from scriptures. They have all kinds of "idols" which people bend in front of and  pray to. They kiss the idols. Etc.

Also, the scriptures clearly warn us to NEVER refer to any man as "Father" in relation to Father God - what do we call every Catholic priest? We do NOT need a human to intercess on our behalf to God. We are taught by Jesus Christ to pray DIRECTLY to God "Our Father, whoa rt in Heaven..." 

We are warned about praying to any human being - and yet the Catholic church are constantly praying to Mary.
These examples go on and on. I am speaking from direct experience because I belonged to that church for many years.

The depravity goes very deep and you can do a Google search to research for yourself.
Quote - "Just as long as the word Jesus is in your prayers, your good"?
Hell no! Read Matthew 7:21-23 -
 21"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity".

Quote - "What about good Buddhists or Muslims who believe in their heart of hearts their savior (or lack thereof) is the true God/Path? They believe just as strongly as you do." 
OK, another really good question brother. And again, I don't want to sound like a broken record, but the truth is not subjective. A thing is either true, or it is not true. The Koran was written about 500 years after the Gospels.

If you read in the Koran sura 615 - it says the Christians had the real word of "allah" 
And so you would ask a Muslim why do you reject the Bible when your own Koran says it is the true word of God, right?
They will tell you because the Bible has been corrupted.
Then ask them why does sura 615 say the words of "allah" cannot be corrupted?
Many Muslims have come to Jesus Christ because of those two verses in the Koran alone. Because they understand the Koran legitimes the Holy Bible but the Holy Bible exposes the Koran, and all other so called "godly" books as frauds.

Jesus Christ told us the road to destruction is wide, but the road to salvation is narrow.
Why? Because there is just one way to God, and many ways, such as placing your faith in Buddha or Allah etc.
John 14:5 - "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Quote - "My best friend is probably the most Christ-like person i have ever met, yet he is a devout Buddhist and will never accept Jesus, just like you will never follow Buddha."
Did Buddha claim to be God? Did he say you can get to Heaven through believing in him?
Buddha was a man, and we really don't know much about him because the earliest manuscripts about him were almost 1,000 years after he died.

Jesus Christ died, and three days later He was resurrected, and was seen by 500 people at the same time.
There are no examples of anyone saying it was all a lie, I was there!
However, His enemies  actually provided some of the most powerful evidence for him because they corroborate He did these miraculous things, including His death and resurrection, but instead of saying it was all a lie, which they would have loved to have done, they simply ascribed His abilities to the devil. Powerful hostile corroboration.

Quote - "How do you reconcile that or those folks who died, never hearing of Christ, let alone accepting him"?
The reason anyone goes to hell is because they rejected Jesus Christ.
How can you reject Jesus Christ if you never heard of Him right?
God will judge any such people according to their hearts. 

Quote - "I also take huge issue with the idea that all sin is equal. Pardon my language, but Bullshit if raping or torturing an innocent child is the same as saying Goddamnit."
OK, so when the scriptures tell us all sins are equal to God - that doesn't mean child molestation and lying are the same level. It means that anyone with unrepentant sin cannot enter Heaven.
Think of sin as a communicable disease. If a diseased person gets into Heaven, he/she will very quickly infect everyone and destroy Heaven. OK?

Many people who hated God, or did not believe in God have died and had very real horrific experiences where they swear they were very much alive, and found themselves in Hell.
These testimonies are shocking in their details, because people who have never heard about anyone else having the same experience, have extremely similar experiences, seeing very similar things.

One of the shared experience details they describe are different level of torment in Hell, depending on what the life sin was. Child molesters and scamming ministers were very brutally suffering.

I'll post a link from a dear friend of mine who hated God before he found himself in the pit.
 Every one of these God haters and deniers came back instant converts.

People will say "well why do Muslims see Muhammad" why do other people see what they believe in?
They don't. I haven't seen a single testimony where anyone saw anything other than Hell, and or Jesus Christ.
They ALL became very faithful Christians, not Buddhists, or Islamists.

Quote - "I don't want to meet the God who made those rules. Lastly, I was raised in a God fearing family and tried really hard to speak to the Big Man to no avail. I personally can't just say words like, "I accept Jesus" unless I TRULY believe it, without a doubt, otherwise Im lying to myself and God. Maybe I'll have a revelation like you did, until then, I have to say Im agnostic, I don't know what the hell to believe."
Brother, I feel for you I honestly do, because I was you many years ago.
The thing is we cannot all have those kind of experiences. God gave us free choice to accept or deny Him, and so if He was to reveal Himself to everyone, that would destroy free choice.
God did promise us that He would give us more than enough evidence to prove who He is.
And there is lots and lots of amazing, awesome evidence out there brother, now go get it!

Here is my friend ,y brother Mario’s Hell testimony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10KhRWwc51M

 

If I can help, please visit my site and send me an e-mail. I will help you anytime brother, and anything I can do, I will.
Take care brother.
Jack
www.theliteralbible.com

Jack/ Bronzesnake,  Bravo!  I'm absolutely in awe that you would spend so much time answering questions such as those presented here in the comments & particularly to those asked by Donald. If your (thoroughly researched) answers did not spark INTENSE INTERESTS for Donald (or for anyone READING them!) to yearn to learn more...then humanity is simply dead. Thousands of people have asked those same questions. From what I've saw - in many years of study – most got either No answer at all or else a very bad one. Sincere thanks for your time & efforts. If you did not (at least eventually) win a few souls to Christ with your posts above then mankind truly has NO hope.  

BTW, I was especially interested in checking out your site but the link directs to a website building page for webmasters. ? Would you happen to have another (workable) link?  

My best, 

DP

That's part of the whole problem! In research when it comes to origins and philosophy, things are a little murky. I have found two points of murkiness when it comes to Bible translations! And so have many others, but we are still considered to be a sort of underground, lol!

Don't forget the Old Testament of the Bible was penned in Hebrew, and the new in Greek (or actually parts may have been in Aramaic, a Hebrew dialect). And of course the Bibles we read have been translated into our own languages.

The first thing I noticed, research wise, was how there really is no "forever" in the Bible. More accurately, it is eon/aion, age and agelasting or ageduring. Okay, so if that is off by a bit, what else might be?

The first flaw, to my mind, was the less than logical ever popular theory of 'hell'. I say “ever popular” tongue in cheek, as I actually believe many believing folks do not believe in a hell. Verse 1 John 4:8 tells us "God is love". (All of it?) And the scriptures also throughout declare him to be "almighty". "With God nothing is impossible" .."love never fails.." Etc, etc.

I've been studying since 1979 (I've also had some pretty neat experiences). Every (assumed) reference to ‘hell’ is very easily refuted. First of all, it was “the liar” in the account of Adam and Eve, who said “surely you won’t… die..?” when offering the forbidden fruit of contradicting Yahweh. But Yahweh (God) said “dust you are.. And to dust shall you return..” So just how did we get to the point of collectively believing in the inherent immortality of humans? Or rather of their ‘immortal soul’? Which if some of God’s created children are to be ‘lost’ then there needs to be an explanation of where the immortal estranged ones from God must go and reside after this life. No problem! The pre-Christian beliefs of Babylon.. Egypt delivered levels of afterlife, and Greece, etc. why surely must be true! (Not.)

Even the Jerusalem city dump, called gehenna, was translated to read “hell”. In this dump was even disposed and burned, the bodies of criminals. Jesus said it was better one throw their hand into gehenna to be burned than it would be to offend “one of these little ones” (in context) “and they be cast into gehenna”. Of course it is translated to read “cast into hell”.

It’s written how Jesus “descended to the lower parts of the earth” and this is assumed to be a subterranean ‘hell’. But we can clearly see that from the heights of the heavens, he descended as low as to be in the dust of the grave. Perhaps this is why it also reads sort of like he ‘went to hell’ and preached to those who perished in Noah’s flood. But I think it reads more like he went “via the Spirit” and “preached to those who were waiting while the ark was being prepared”.

The Greek word (and idea) is “hades” the “place of the dead”. The place of the dead is still the grave, like it always was in the Old Testament and Hebrew! “Sheol” (the grave) where “all meet” and “oh, Yahweh, that you would hide me in sheol” (in these instances, hard to translate sheol into ‘hell’). “In sheol where there is neither thought nor doing”.

1 Timothy 4:10 says “God is the savior of all, especially of those believing”. Jesus said “if I am lifted up from the earth” (on the cross, an image strong enough to eventually pierce every psyche) “I will draw all to me” - John 12:32. “All things in heaven and earth are being gathered into Jesus” - Ephesians 1:10. “By Jesus, to reconcile all things to Himself, both in heaven and earth” - Colossians 1:20. I could go on and on. The two images in this post - http://gospel-truth4all.blogspot.com/2016/01/his-great-plan-of-salvation... may better explain it.

I figure God is life itself, the force and breath of.. And is also (surely?) perfect, aka, perfection. (Or He too would fade?) When he endowed thinking ability a whole new world (er tree) of possibilities came about, because with thinking ability, sooner or later, comes the ability to make choices. But to choose anything in thought, word, or deed other than he does, is to become imperfect, the opposite of life (and hence, also, life as we presently know it). So God built in the rescue “from the beginning/foundation”. (Note, to other believers - why, are there two resurrections?) Surely, Perfect makes no mistakes. Can lose nothing. Perfect also implies that the ‘end’ result of all this (human history) can only be the best one possible.

Hope you don’t mind my rambling on so.. Blessings! :)

This article provides no sources and is meant to be taken on faith? What a bad joke. Like the unholy babble, most of it was probably simply invented - and it has wasted the precious time of many readers, by the look of it. A great pity it was allowed oxygen here.

I have previously been very skeptical of such writing and comments too boot\
the narrow minded the ill imformed the scientificaly uneducated etc etc
In Nz I have also read of sealed chambers of giant skelitons documented by early missionaries in multiple locations
I have also read the irish histories of how they bread giants from the populations to defeat the vikings
Lets be open minded untill the bus ride to see them is free
I having read a book called celtic nz would not have believed a pygmie race of white europeans
existed in Nz nor that the national museum and archeologists sealed all sites and had a 75 yr long moratorium on disclosing the info to the public
truth is what we are shown allowed to believe and feel comfortable with by those who think they are powerfull enough to distort it ha ha jokes on us

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I just joined AO a few days back and although I do have an interest in ‘giant’ stories, the main reason I read this article was that it was listed as the ‘Most Popular’ on the home page. What constitutes ‘Most Popular’...the number of comments which an article receives...or perhaps number of times viewed since it’s posting?  I sat here and read the comments to get an idea of what topics people who are active members find ‘popular’.   Right now I’m LOL and logging out :-)

Carol Ann1

Any photos/videos/hard data? I think we'd all be interested.

The first photo shows a tiny skeleton compared to the correctly interpreted measuring rods

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