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  • Reply to: Remembering the Barbary Slaves: White Slaves and North African Pirates   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: denny

    You can't be serious...Saddam wanted nothing but peace with the USA ( referencing the 2nd occupation in 2001,2,3 here ) . He sent 3 messages saying just that, and they were ignored because it didn't fit with our agenda. The same thing happened when Japan ' attacked ' Pearl Harbor...Roosevelt knew that Japan wanted peace with the USA, yet he poked and prodded them until they attacked, while he stood down and let it happen. Same thing Cheney did on 9/11. War games at the exact same time the ' threat ' was going on?? Come on...ever heard of the PNAC? Guess who was the CEO...guess who was also connected to Halliburton?...we could very easily go off on a 9/11 tangent here, and you would probably tell me, it was 19 hijackers
    please.....
    back to it, Japan had sent, how many?? Yes, 3 messages saying they wanted nothing to do with a war with the USA. They were ignored in order for us to enter into WW2 against a 60-80% negative approval rating, of the American people, which is the same exact thing that happened with Iraq, again the 2nd time. No one wanted to go to war with Iraq, our one time ally. It was definitely not ' justified ' ...whether or not Congress approved it, which they didn't at first. It was only when Bush was so adamant about it that they gave in, basically to shut him up...and as you must know he was nothing more than a figurehead, working out in the front while the usual suspects did all the planning. Saddam worked for us in the 80s...who do you think sold him all the chemical weapons he used on his own people? Was he a nice guy? No, not always...but he knew better than to provoke America, and did not want things to escalate. We did. That's why we went to war. In the Gulf War, we peppered Iraq with depleted Uranium, which is of course controversial, same thing in 2001, 2 and 3 in Iraq and Afghanistan...how many people have died there since then? Well over a million...how many babies are born with birth defects from all of that Uranium? Yes, i've read that it's harmless. If you believe that, you should do some more research on it. What we did was use a new form of nukes and did it in a ( not entirely ) covert way, which will have long lasting effects, in a country who was and still is innocent. What we did in 1990 was use the war with Iraq as a distraction in order to " turn our attention from the USSR to the Middle East " ( quoting Chomsky there...) and created a whole new Cold War with them. The entire reason we ever went towards the Middle East is to protect our pipeline in Afghanistan, which has been there since the mid 70s, and realistically most likely since the mid 50s. Why do you think we had Bin Laden under our employ in the 80s? To protect our oil, and part of the territory from Russia. We never found Saddam's WMD because our own people, namely the CIA moved them out of Iraq into Saudi Arabia where we would never even bother to look because they were and still are an ally, even though they are considered a ' terrorist state ' ...Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr., Cheney, Rumsfeld, and now, as you wrote, Obama should all be tried for war crimes, the only part of your statement that i agree with. Actually, quoting Noam Chomsky again, any president post WW2 could have been tried for war crimes. It sounds to me like you make up your own theories and batter people over the head with them, as part of your own agenda. That isn't right. This is about getting to the real story through all the bullshit that the US government feeds us each and every day.
    Here's to a new America, because the old one that we all know and love is gone and has been for well over 30 years. If McCarthy was around today, all of our ' leaders ' for the past 50 years would be called Communists, and we would be living in a police state. OH WAIT!!:O We are living in a police state. How many laws did Obama push while he was fake crying about fake dead kids in Newtown, CT? MANY...
    Iraq was not justified, no war is justified. We haven't been attacked on our own soil since 1910, and that was between points in Arizona and Mexico. No outside source is a threat to us, the threat resides at 1,600 Pennsylvania avenue. What's next? Will we be told in 10 years that ISIS is still lurking in the shadows and gonna attack someday? If you aren't aware of who created them, look into it, and tell me Iraq was justified. Creating ISIS ( which consists of CIA/Mossad agents ) was justified in order to have a constant threat to instill fear into the American citizens and have a place to send all the taxpayer's money, which is the military. Go back to September 10th 2001...Rumsfeld, " we can't account for 2.3 trillion dollars, and we don't know where 25% of the military spending budget goes...there's your answer. War.
    Notice that in the Boston marathon sham, remember that bomb drill turned live fake terrorist attack? ...Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was charged with several counts of ' use of WMD ' ? .....there's yer sign. Same terminology that was used to lull the US citizens into a false sense of hope, while in reality the US government is slowly but surely fucking each and every one us. He left with his backpack, that unravels the entire case against him, not that he's alive today to care either way...
    CHEERS!! Let's do this again some time.

  • Reply to: Remembering the Barbary Slaves: White Slaves and North African Pirates   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: denny

    Spot on! Not only does modern day America neglect to include this in the history books, but it goes out of it's way to instill a certain tension between whites and blacks over this whole debacle. What about the Irish women, and even children who were used as sex slaves, and were forced to breed with black slaves in order to create the mullato complexion? Obama, who is a mullato, has done more to promote racial tension and race-baiting, right along with Sharpton, Jackson, Oprah...and he was supposed to be the savior for the black people. He failed them and he failed our entire country. I'm not an anti-Obamite...i'm a free-thinker who can see the plain truth. Until the black people in America educate themselves on their own history, there will be tension and unrest in every corner of the USA

  • Reply to: The human skull that challenges the Out of Africa theory   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Falkonas

    Actually, you are in fact wrong which is only normal since you assume a common fallacy that the climate of Europe, or Greece for that matter, was the same as it was today.

    In reality, the climate of Greece back then was alien to now... It was harshly super-cold and ruthless and Africa was the promise land of fruits, milk and honey where humans could evolve, not an arid hot savanna as today. Climate changed VERY much from then.

    Heck, Poulianos was actually never been exposed to scientific method and all he does is downplaying FACT with idiotically and illogically ridiculous PSEUDOSCIENCE he farted from top of his head while using a very very undoubtfully incorrect and factually flawed method.

    As for the gentleman here who is gigantically omni-retarded to confuse that the other highly intelligent gentleman is making "allegations" I actually remind him that negative claims CAN'T be assumed or be allegations in any shape or form and that he needs to realize that throwing words from a thesaurus or a dictionary is not enough... Unfortunently, nothing he claimed makes any sense whatsoever.

    Actually, the man in fact ADMITTED the fact that Poulianos is in fact a delusional pathetic pseudoscientist who is too dumb to differ between evidence and myths. Poulianos was "educated" by the early 20th century Modern Greek system... therefore he was predetermined to be an utterly delusional pseudoscientist.

    Even my mother's books from 80's are filled with flaws and deluded blithering pseudoscience... Greece didn't follow the Western method of education and went pissing on her legos and messing with them until recently like it was their own world.

    I know cuz I am Greek.

  • Reply to: White Skin Developed in Europe Only As Recently as 8,000 Years Ago Say Anthropologists   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Griselle

    Prior to farming, the peoples of the norther latitudes were dark skinned because they were getting enough vitamin D from plants and animals who, in turn, synthesized vitamin D directly. When peoples from the south and east arrived, and brought with them farming (and their DNA), the hunters and gatherers of the region became farmers; as a result,- and over time - eastern and southern DNA and farming replace the old way of living. Peoples now in the norther latitude (Europe, for instance) became exclusively farmers (no Vitamin D from plants and animals) and the alleles for white skin became dominant to extract as much vitamin D from the sun as possible.

  • Reply to: The purpose of religion   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Barry Murray

    Original purpose of religion is the easist for me to do, its present purpose I would need  to write a book… or ten. You have to go as far back in time as we have been able to peer to catch the odd glimpse of religion in its formative state. The first words we can refer to come in cuneiform, hieroglyphics, Mayan glyphs, Shang dragon bones, etc. Otherwise, it’s from prehistory archaeologists answers to this deep, primal question are forth coming. 

    Right now the thinking is, roughly; Tribes of hunter/gatherers turned to farming and stopped following game. They stayed in one area and built permanent structures in small villages. Towns formed for self protection. (part of warfare hypothesis) Safety and excess food production allowed free time to create. Shamans turned into priests, chiefs to kings. Towns grew into cities, small temples into componds… etc.

    Religion evolved with the cities. Many argue it was the genus of cities. When digging under the Ziggurat of Ur a much more ancient sacred building was found. This structure was left in place as the Ziggurat grew over it. Over the next millennia it was built over many times. As the city grew bigger so did its religious component. What was first in Ur… religious structure or a small village?

    Gobekli Tempi and Stonehenge archaeology is starting to suggest another path for early cultural complexity. That is; people got together in large groups to socialize, feast/party, and trade. Permanent structures to mark a ceremonial, sacred area were built. Hunter/gatherers started farming around these areas to support the big events of the year. (seeded the ground for harvest when they returned) People stayed to care for the plants, towns developed…   I call this the “Party Hypothesis”.

    A shaman was present from the first. Zoning problem, go see the chief. Problem with your wife, go see the shaman. When others come to you for help/advice it gives you status, influence, power. The chief and the shaman become the king and priest, two poles of a now familiar power structure. These two grew up from infancy together. Both held onto their power as cities grew into states and empires. Kingship is easy to understand but why religion? Is it a cultural matrix? For humanity, can complex society be stable enough to begin without it? If so is this still true today?  (Kingship is now greatly diminished and society can easily survive without it)

    No matter where they were located the first cities had organized religion. Was a first city possible without it? If not then, originally, religion’s purpose was to hold the group together, group cohesion, unity. 

     

  • Reply to: Don’t Cross the Kobolds: Mischievous Spirits of European Folklore   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: John R.

    The native north americans have similar legends of small humanoids called the Pukwudgies. However, I believe the Puks weren't spirits, but were actual flesh and blood little creatures.

  • Reply to: The long goodbye to Scandinavian Paganism and the Christianization of three realms   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: alexhurlbut

    Actually the concept of "End Times" isn't anything new. But the Ragnarok may be really a christian spin. We don't know how much of the Ragnarok is invented by the christains and how much of it is original nordic belief content.

  • Reply to: The Lost Land of Lyonesse – Legendary City on the Bottom of the Sea   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Susan Osborn

    I've always wondered if the Lyonesse Legend is a dim memory handed down of the sinking of Doggerland or the flooding of a lot of land in what is now the English Channel both happened after the last Ice Age some 6 to 6500 years ago.

  • Reply to: The Underwater City of Cuba: A New Theory on its Origins – Part I   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: M.S. Ward

    Am interested in any ET archaeology and any quite-old 100,000 + BCE Earth archaeology & anthropology

  • Reply to: 1,300-Year-Old Fortress Ruins on Siberian Lake Mystifies Experts   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: ProfessorC

    An archaeological site free of typical items of everyday life or ritualistic activities is usually associated with looting, but that's probably not the case here. In fact, even swift abandonment would likely leave evidence in terms of things left behind. This leads me to think that this place was deliberately maintain in a clean, minimal circumstance: after periodic use—whether for religious ceremonies or political meetings—everything portable to make the establishment habitable, comfortable, and functional was taken away on the same boats that brought it for whatever purpose. That would make the compound worthless to looters or even squatters since it would require quite a bit of ambition by the occasional intruders to get there.

  • Reply to: The Controversial Lapedo Child – A Neanderthal / Human Hybrid?   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: getoba

    I recommend a look at the works of Svante Pääbo.
    Lastest studies have given proof of Neanderthal-DNA being part of today's people's gene-pool - at least all people outside africa.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Pääbo

  • Reply to: Tracing the origins of the Serpent Cult   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Aliya Osho

    Actually the most ancient veneration of the serpent as a symbol of human godliness and enlightenment was done by Ancient Bulgarian zhretsi / priests of God SebAzi of the human soul. Ancient Bulgarian zhretsi used to hold snakes with bear hands during their spiritual rituals and they also used to throw those snakes up, to rotate them and dance with snakes in their hands. Snakes are believd attributes of God Sebazi, ancient Bulgarian God whose name means exactly this: God of the Internal Light the Human Soul. Ancient Bulgarian zhretsi were wise men and women who knew how to master animals and to control them. In addition to that they used to wear snakes heads, skins as well as other animal masks, wings while performing their spiritual rituals. From then spread the cult to the feathered serpent, the sphinx and other gods with animals and birds attributes. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=680686468717646&set=a.313566...

  • Reply to: Unraveling the Nature and Identity of the Green Man   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Bard A Madsen

    That is right and it goes further back, Ralph. I see Karla in the comments on part two has some good points. The oldest record is in the cuneiform texts with Ishtar going through the seven gates of hell to get Tammuz back. It is in the Old Testament also with the women crying for Tammuz. I'm positive this goes back to when the comet hit the Earth 13Kyrs. ago and killed off the mammoth and blotted out the Sun. The comet came out of the constellation of Taurus and is still known as the Taurid Stream which is commemorated as Halloween and the Festival of the Dead (as in the death from the Deluge), this is why the bull is represented in the story as far back as Gobekli Tepe. The seven gates, the grapes (as Karla points out), and the mistletoe that kills Baldr (the Sun) are the small cluster of the Pleiades on the Apis Bulls back for example which is how the constellation is and the radiant point of the Taurid Stream emanates from this point to this day. Some say that this radiant point processes, but Mankind's traditions say otherwise. I wrote a book about this subject, at the moment I'm trying to redo the whole thing in html so that it will become an ebook, but don't hold your breath the learning curve is terrible. Anyone willing to give me some pointers would be greatly appreciated.

  • Reply to: Largest known megalithic block from antiquity revealed at Baalbek   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Stuart McLaren

    I wish there was an upvote function on the commentary here at Ancient Origins

  • Reply to: Largest known megalithic block from antiquity revealed at Baalbek   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Stuart McLaren

    Please provide the ‘proof’ that Science has provided that these blocks were quarried and laid by the Romans. I’ve researched arguments for and against, as in Hancock’s latest work on the matter, and I’m afraid to say that the proofs and logical assessment he provides far outweighs that of current accepted archeaological dogma. Have you actually read any of his work Canuck? The only proof academia provides to support Roman excavation of these blocks is that it ‘fits’ in their immoveable and infallable construct of ancient history. Zero additional enquiry required apparently – No YDB global cataclysm that could have wiped out an advanced civilisation capable of working with rocks like this.

    The reason Hancock, Bauval, West etc will never be accepted by the scientific community has nothing to do with the scientific method and everything to do with years and years of dogmatic spoon-feeding in certain scholarly circles that academics have been forced to endure. In a time when the true scientific method of calculated enquiry is required, it is sorely missed. There are many, many examples where ‘fringe science’ has become real science. I’ll happily summarise Hancock’s findings at Baalbek here for you (and others commenting here) if you haven’t actually read his full hypothesis. 

  • Reply to: Largest known megalithic block from antiquity revealed at Baalbek   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: ralph ellis

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    The stone shown in the first diagram is not the largest.

    The largest stone is figure 4, which has me standing on it. And the diagram is mislabeled too, because the two stones are not in the same quarry and the Stone of the Pregnant Woman is the smaller of the two. This is why you should visit the areas you are writing about. (Nobody seems to visit the second quarry.)

    Incidentally, I think the name is derived from Mother Earth and her lithic child. The stone is only attached to the Earth by an 'umbilical cord', as if it is a child of Mother Earth.

    And we know that these massive stones are not Roman, because there are clearly two building eras at Baalbek. Take a look at the following image, which is in one of the tunnels under the temple platform. There is a megalithic era at the bottom, and Roman stonework above. So how long did it take to erode the megalithic structure down, before the Romans built a new layer above? Thousands of years, obviously. See K2, Quest of the Gods.

    See the image of the tunnel on the facebook page.
    https://www.facebook.com/ancientoriginsweb/posts/1146503478723928

    Ralph

  • Reply to: The Disturbing True Story of the Pied Piper of Hamelin   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: johncena123

    this was soopoopy it was unrealistic

  • Reply to: Unraveling the Nature and Identity of the Green Man   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: ralph ellis

    The Green Man was an image of Osiris, who was always green. And often green with vegetation (the Osiris bed). But they could not portray Osiris in a Christian church, so they made the Green Man imagery. ..... There are more secrets within Christianity, than within Masonry.

    https://magazinecrew.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/osiris-tomb-of-nefertar...

  • Reply to: Maria Pita: The Woman Who Saved a Galician Town from the British   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Jose Puentes

    Sorry: ¡Her name...! :)

  • Reply to: Maria Pita: The Woman Who Saved a Galician Town from the British   8 years 2 months ago
    Comment Author: Jose Puentes

    You write:
    "Her real name was Mayor Fernández de Cámara y Pita but for unknown reasons she's known as Maria. There are a few theories connected with her name; but the most probable explanation is that she’s remembered by her sister’s name".

    His name is "María Mayor" which refers to the first church built in the world in honor of St. Mary, in Rome. In Spanish is so right call "Mayor", as call "María".

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