I'm confused. How could totally illiterate people write a work like the Bible?
As a contributor mentioned below, Moses was highly educated, having been raised in the palace of the Pharaoh, but Hebrew literacy dates back much further than that.
Abram, whose name God later changed to Abraham (Genesis 17:5), came from Ur of the Chaldees. The Ebla Tablets, discovered around Ur of the Chaldees and the surrounding area, date back to 2,000 BC and include fragments of business contracts and other legal documents. The name Abram is found frequently in these tablets, probably not referring to the Abram of the Bible but lending credibility to the Biblical account by demonstrating that Abram was a common name in that region at that time.
The idea that the Hebrews were illiterate is the concoction of liberal theologians 150 years ago who never bothered to revise their ideas in light of the discoveries of modern archeology which for the most part supports the accuracy of the Scriptures.
Triune deity existed long before the hebrews copied it. It existed in Egypt with osiris/isis/horus and in India with Brama/shiva/vishnu. In fact monotheism existed with Akhenaten's Monotheism (who likely influenced Moses). But then we’re discussing the validity of the bible: begins with a talking snake and ends with a four-headed monster. We can therefore conclude, beyond cavil, that it is a work of NON FICTION. I’m still confused however, by which set of 10 commandments we are to follow, the first second or third. But I’m certain about the 10th commandment: “thou shalt not seeth a kid in its mother’s milk”. I follow that one to the letter.
The December 25 celebration is simply a co-opting of a Pagan celebration – with all the attending symbolism nicely adorning it. The Vatican is the world leader at co-opting other belief systems. Indeed, with the exception of it’s alleged founder, Jesus, there is not a single original article of faith in the Christian belief. Even Lazarus with his sisters Martha and Mary have their roots in the Egyptian Osirian belief: ElAsarus with his sisters Meri and Merti. There are numerous murdered savior God-men in the history of religion.
In all seriousness, the where, whether or if of Jesus’ birth is nowhere recommended as a celebration date by Jesus himself, so it really matters little. Consider that Nazareth didn’t exist until at least the 3rd century, and we’re clutching at straws to decide where he hailed from. But a thorough and detailed examination of the biblical tomes according to the ‘test of truth’ can be found in a treatise by Joseph Wheless called “Is It God’s Word”. Highly recommended
As simple as this: Ethiopian new year is the birthday of Jesus. Moses is educated by the Ethiopian priest. Sorry this may sound unbelievable. The truth that we all need to acknowledge and proof.
In the article it states that the sword came from an ancient shipwreck found off of Oak Island. It's been said there are many more relics laying in this site. So if the sword was taking, there is still allegedly much more to be found and understood.
Maybe not "uneducated sheep herders," but certainly not the words of a god.
When one turns to the Bible to evaluate things, one is engaging in circular, tautological reasoning; a nice way to say "Garbage in, garbage out."
I have the pleasure of informing you that my book has been printed in English: THE RECOVERED ARCHIMEDES PLANETARIUM, Science, technology, history, literature and archaeology, certainty and conjecture on the most ancient and extraordinary astronomical calculating device. With two other scientific studies: on the Antikythera Planetarium and the Pitcher of Ripacandida. With the appendix: PYTHAGORAS IN THE CONTEMPORARY WORLD. Influences of Pythagorean scientific philosophy in the modern and contemporary world. Given the considerable international interest, the book has been translated into English. Sincerely, Prof. Ing. GIOVANNI PASTORE - ITALY Tel. +39 0835 980530 E-MAIL: [email protected] INTERNET: http://www.giovannipastore.it/index_english.htm http://www.giovannipastore.it/ARCHIMEDES.htm
The virgin mother refers to a woman who produces a highly evolved being. She is a spiritual virgin. It actually tells not so much about the mother, but much more about the child that is of high evolutionary development.
The notion of a virgin mother is a symbolical way of saying that a person of high mental/spititual evolutional level is born out of a person of low/lower level of inner evolutional level.
Thats a bunch of Bull! I think your getting the Europeans mixed up with the Native Amerkcans. Contrary to what you beleive is the truth about the NAs,when the Euros came to the Americas, most of the Indian tribes were long past the warring stage, and were living very comfortably in tightnet family and extended family units with lots of leisure time. Theremwere farless wars among the indians as with the Europeans who were constantly at war with each other..
You seem to forget that the Native Americans were the most
Isolated people in the world. And that all the awesome high civilization's were made by NAs with no barrowing from anyother surrounding contries, unlike the Europeans. And even then, mlst of the Europeans were very poor substainence farmers,with no land of there own. They were serfs to the nobles and gentry. The indians were far from primitive. The Mayans, Aztecs, Olmecs, and Inca. All had writing, libraries, science, astronomy, medicines, doctor. The mound builders had Cohokia with over a gwenty thousands of people. The woodland tribes made longhouses that were huge that fit about 50 people. The California Chumash were competent Seafarers with far flung trade networks, to the channel island, down to Baja California. As a matter of fact they lived better than the common Europeans, who coudnt hunt or fish or live off the bounty of the land, because all animals and fish belonged to the king.. when the pilgrim immigrants came to the "new world" they couldn't feed themselves or hunt. So the indians had to teach them how to survive. In england the farmers had to farm for the nobles whose land they rented on. Non of them were land owners in england. Ot until the came to the Americas. I can ask the same questions about the Europeans, why did they not build pyramids, like the Egyptians or the Native Americans did? Was it because they were primitive? Most likely because it did not suit themnto live in tne cities, or they had no reasns to. That doent make one primitive, or that they are primitive cultures.
I remember reading that back in the early 1700's near the Ohio falls in Southern Indiana that white explorers found many skeletons of large men wearing pieces of armor that had Irish marking on them dating back to about the year 1150AD. The explorers then asked the Indians about it who told them that many, many years before a group of these warriors were attacked by their ancestors and fought bravely but were overwhelmed by sheer numbers and were left where they fell.
Bravo. You successfully wrote an entire reply using nothing but invented trash by well known charlatans. You see, we already know that the reference to 'Christ' by Josephus is a forgery. It's been know for CENTURIES. Your ignorance of this forgery is not an excuse. It is a forgery and EVERYONE who has ever actually researched this topic knows it. You didn't research it. You read about the Josephus forgery and decided for yourself that it was good enough for you. Fail.
Next, you state, quite to my amusement, the following: '...awful abuses of religion in the past'. How funny is that? The past? Are you dead? Do you not follow current events? Who is the man who just murdered people at a Planned Parenthood office? Was he a 'secularist'? NO. He is a Christian. He's just one example. The list of current Christian abuses is nearly endless. Kim Davis and her pretend love of marriage. Governor Abbott's rejection of the Christmas display in Austin this very minute - and his egregious use of his personal religion to pretend that the Founders don't even exist. Please, Mr. Butler. Pay attention.
And this. Oh, this. I was so amused by this that I nearly spit my adult beverage onto the screen as I read it. You stated: 'Christianity does not teach that believers should convert others by the sword, and never did.' Really? REALLY? It's quite clear that you not only don't know history, you don't even know Jesus's very own words. Here. Here's the first time you've ever seen them in print because I know you've never opened a Bible. Jesus HIMSELF stated this, which was used as the foundation of how Christianity was spread across Europe: Matthew 10:34: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
I'm not going to even go on. You see, your post was so filled with complete disinformation that I'm absolutely surprised you know how to use a computer.
Moses, who wrote the first five books of the Bible was a highly educated man. Moses was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians.
Contrary to popular belief, many, many Bible writers were highly educated people.
In the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 6 verse 9 it says this about God's laws: and you must write them upon the doorposts of your house and your gates.
Writing was a way of life for many ancient Hebrews.
King Solomon, a Bible writer was by far the most educated man of his day. A Queen from a distant land came to Israel to see if Solomon was as wise as what she had heard. When she visited Solomon, she said " I haven't been told the half of your wisdom; 1st Kings chapter 10.
The Apostle Paul, who wrote several books in the new testament was a highly educated man. He was a trained lawyer, and Pharisee. He studied under the leading Jewish lawyer of Paul's day; Acts 22:3.
My favorite saying that is a delusion is that all the ancient Jews were was goat herders and agrarian people. This is simply not true.
However, what people could exist without agriculture or animals? None. Therefore, just because there was agriculture and animal herding, that doesn't mean the people were stupid.
Also, a judge of the highest court in the land became a Christan; Acts 17:34
Moses, who wrote the first five books of the Bible was a highly educated man. Moses was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians.
Contrary to popular belief, many, many Bible writers were highly educated people.
In the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 6 verse 9 it says this about God's laws: and you must write them upon the doorposts of your house and your gates.
Writing was a way of life for many ancient Hebrews.
King Solomon, a Bible writer was by far the most educated man of his day. A Queen from a distant land came to Israel to see if Solomon was as wise as what she had heard. When she visited Solomon, she said " I haven't been told the half of your wisdom; 1st Kings chapter 10.
The Apostle Paul, who wrote several books in the new testament was a highly educated man. He was a trained lawyer, and Pharisee. He studied under the leading Jewish lawyer of Paul's day; Acts 22:3.
My favorite saying that is a delusion is that all the ancient Jews were was goat herders and agrarian people. This is simply not true.
However, what people could exist without agriculture or animals? None. Therefore, just because there was agriculture and animal herding, that doesn't mean the people were stupid.
Also, a judge of the highest court in the land became a Christan; Acts 17:34
I really don't think the point is that the birth is of a 'virgin' originally. The idea that 'gods' or astronauts from elsewhere, inseminate a woman is old and the story is strong enough without adding 'purity' to it. Most of the early translations of 'virgin' I believe could mean 'maiden' which could simply mean they hadn't had children yet, rather than haven't been deflowered. The fact that Zeus took on various forms intimates for me that the subject being inseminated was in a dreamlike or trance state where forms are perceived as fluid.
Here you can navigate quickly through all comments made in any article sorted by date/time.
Correction, Chase: Constantine the Great was the Roman Emperor who embraced Christianity in the 300s AD.
The Frankish king whom the Pope crowned Holy Roman Emperor on Christmas 800 AD was Charles the Great, or Charlemagne.
I'm confused. How could totally illiterate people write a work like the Bible?
As a contributor mentioned below, Moses was highly educated, having been raised in the palace of the Pharaoh, but Hebrew literacy dates back much further than that.
Abram, whose name God later changed to Abraham (Genesis 17:5), came from Ur of the Chaldees. The Ebla Tablets, discovered around Ur of the Chaldees and the surrounding area, date back to 2,000 BC and include fragments of business contracts and other legal documents. The name Abram is found frequently in these tablets, probably not referring to the Abram of the Bible but lending credibility to the Biblical account by demonstrating that Abram was a common name in that region at that time.
The idea that the Hebrews were illiterate is the concoction of liberal theologians 150 years ago who never bothered to revise their ideas in light of the discoveries of modern archeology which for the most part supports the accuracy of the Scriptures.
Triune deity existed long before the hebrews copied it. It existed in Egypt with osiris/isis/horus and in India with Brama/shiva/vishnu. In fact monotheism existed with Akhenaten's Monotheism (who likely influenced Moses). But then we’re discussing the validity of the bible: begins with a talking snake and ends with a four-headed monster. We can therefore conclude, beyond cavil, that it is a work of NON FICTION. I’m still confused however, by which set of 10 commandments we are to follow, the first second or third. But I’m certain about the 10th commandment: “thou shalt not seeth a kid in its mother’s milk”. I follow that one to the letter.
The December 25 celebration is simply a co-opting of a Pagan celebration – with all the attending symbolism nicely adorning it. The Vatican is the world leader at co-opting other belief systems. Indeed, with the exception of it’s alleged founder, Jesus, there is not a single original article of faith in the Christian belief. Even Lazarus with his sisters Martha and Mary have their roots in the Egyptian Osirian belief: ElAsarus with his sisters Meri and Merti. There are numerous murdered savior God-men in the history of religion.
In all seriousness, the where, whether or if of Jesus’ birth is nowhere recommended as a celebration date by Jesus himself, so it really matters little. Consider that Nazareth didn’t exist until at least the 3rd century, and we’re clutching at straws to decide where he hailed from. But a thorough and detailed examination of the biblical tomes according to the ‘test of truth’ can be found in a treatise by Joseph Wheless called “Is It God’s Word”. Highly recommended
http://www.metaphysicspirit.com/books/Is%20It%20Gods%20Word.pdf
Religions will come and go, but the solstice will continue as long as the earth turns on its present axis. Happy Solstice to all.
As simple as this: Ethiopian new year is the birthday of Jesus. Moses is educated by the Ethiopian priest. Sorry this may sound unbelievable. The truth that we all need to acknowledge and proof.
And don't forget about Slavic/ Polish Podlazniczka https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pod%C5%82a%C5%BAniczka
Older than German Christmas tree, sorry no English version
In the article it states that the sword came from an ancient shipwreck found off of Oak Island. It's been said there are many more relics laying in this site. So if the sword was taking, there is still allegedly much more to be found and understood.
Maybe not "uneducated sheep herders," but certainly not the words of a god.
When one turns to the Bible to evaluate things, one is engaging in circular, tautological reasoning; a nice way to say "Garbage in, garbage out."
I have the pleasure of informing you that my book has been printed in English:
THE RECOVERED ARCHIMEDES PLANETARIUM, Science, technology, history, literature and archaeology, certainty and conjecture on the most ancient and extraordinary astronomical calculating device. With two other scientific studies: on the Antikythera Planetarium and the Pitcher of Ripacandida. With the appendix: PYTHAGORAS IN THE CONTEMPORARY WORLD. Influences of Pythagorean scientific philosophy in the modern and contemporary world.
Given the considerable international interest, the book has been translated into English.
Sincerely,
Prof. Ing. GIOVANNI PASTORE - ITALY
Tel. +39 0835 980530
E-MAIL: [email protected]
INTERNET: http://www.giovannipastore.it/index_english.htm
http://www.giovannipastore.it/ARCHIMEDES.htm
The virgin mother refers to a woman who produces a highly evolved being. She is a spiritual virgin. It actually tells not so much about the mother, but much more about the child that is of high evolutionary development.
The notion of a virgin mother is a symbolical way of saying that a person of high mental/spititual evolutional level is born out of a person of low/lower level of inner evolutional level.
Thats a bunch of Bull! I think your getting the Europeans mixed up with the Native Amerkcans. Contrary to what you beleive is the truth about the NAs,when the Euros came to the Americas, most of the Indian tribes were long past the warring stage, and were living very comfortably in tightnet family and extended family units with lots of leisure time. Theremwere farless wars among the indians as with the Europeans who were constantly at war with each other..
You seem to forget that the Native Americans were the most
Isolated people in the world. And that all the awesome high civilization's were made by NAs with no barrowing from anyother surrounding contries, unlike the Europeans. And even then, mlst of the Europeans were very poor substainence farmers,with no land of there own. They were serfs to the nobles and gentry. The indians were far from primitive. The Mayans, Aztecs, Olmecs, and Inca. All had writing, libraries, science, astronomy, medicines, doctor. The mound builders had Cohokia with over a gwenty thousands of people. The woodland tribes made longhouses that were huge that fit about 50 people. The California Chumash were competent Seafarers with far flung trade networks, to the channel island, down to Baja California. As a matter of fact they lived better than the common Europeans, who coudnt hunt or fish or live off the bounty of the land, because all animals and fish belonged to the king.. when the pilgrim immigrants came to the "new world" they couldn't feed themselves or hunt. So the indians had to teach them how to survive. In england the farmers had to farm for the nobles whose land they rented on. Non of them were land owners in england. Ot until the came to the Americas. I can ask the same questions about the Europeans, why did they not build pyramids, like the Egyptians or the Native Americans did? Was it because they were primitive? Most likely because it did not suit themnto live in tne cities, or they had no reasns to. That doent make one primitive, or that they are primitive cultures.
I remember reading that back in the early 1700's near the Ohio falls in Southern Indiana that white explorers found many skeletons of large men wearing pieces of armor that had Irish marking on them dating back to about the year 1150AD. The explorers then asked the Indians about it who told them that many, many years before a group of these warriors were attacked by their ancestors and fought bravely but were overwhelmed by sheer numbers and were left where they fell.
Bravo. You successfully wrote an entire reply using nothing but invented trash by well known charlatans. You see, we already know that the reference to 'Christ' by Josephus is a forgery. It's been know for CENTURIES. Your ignorance of this forgery is not an excuse. It is a forgery and EVERYONE who has ever actually researched this topic knows it. You didn't research it. You read about the Josephus forgery and decided for yourself that it was good enough for you. Fail.
Next, you state, quite to my amusement, the following: '...awful abuses of religion in the past'. How funny is that? The past? Are you dead? Do you not follow current events? Who is the man who just murdered people at a Planned Parenthood office? Was he a 'secularist'? NO. He is a Christian. He's just one example. The list of current Christian abuses is nearly endless. Kim Davis and her pretend love of marriage. Governor Abbott's rejection of the Christmas display in Austin this very minute - and his egregious use of his personal religion to pretend that the Founders don't even exist. Please, Mr. Butler. Pay attention.
And this. Oh, this. I was so amused by this that I nearly spit my adult beverage onto the screen as I read it. You stated: 'Christianity does not teach that believers should convert others by the sword, and never did.' Really? REALLY? It's quite clear that you not only don't know history, you don't even know Jesus's very own words. Here. Here's the first time you've ever seen them in print because I know you've never opened a Bible. Jesus HIMSELF stated this, which was used as the foundation of how Christianity was spread across Europe: Matthew 10:34: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
I'm not going to even go on. You see, your post was so filled with complete disinformation that I'm absolutely surprised you know how to use a computer.
Ancient Greeks would have been ashamed of this puritan version!
Moses, who wrote the first five books of the Bible was a highly educated man. Moses was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians.
Contrary to popular belief, many, many Bible writers were highly educated people.
In the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 6 verse 9 it says this about God's laws: and you must write them upon the doorposts of your house and your gates.
Writing was a way of life for many ancient Hebrews.
King Solomon, a Bible writer was by far the most educated man of his day. A Queen from a distant land came to Israel to see if Solomon was as wise as what she had heard. When she visited Solomon, she said " I haven't been told the half of your wisdom; 1st Kings chapter 10.
The Apostle Paul, who wrote several books in the new testament was a highly educated man. He was a trained lawyer, and Pharisee. He studied under the leading Jewish lawyer of Paul's day; Acts 22:3.
My favorite saying that is a delusion is that all the ancient Jews were was goat herders and agrarian people. This is simply not true.
However, what people could exist without agriculture or animals? None. Therefore, just because there was agriculture and animal herding, that doesn't mean the people were stupid.
Also, a judge of the highest court in the land became a Christan; Acts 17:34
Moses, who wrote the first five books of the Bible was a highly educated man. Moses was instructed in all the wisdom of the Egyptians.
Contrary to popular belief, many, many Bible writers were highly educated people.
In the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 6 verse 9 it says this about God's laws: and you must write them upon the doorposts of your house and your gates.
Writing was a way of life for many ancient Hebrews.
King Solomon, a Bible writer was by far the most educated man of his day. A Queen from a distant land came to Israel to see if Solomon was as wise as what she had heard. When she visited Solomon, she said " I haven't been told the half of your wisdom; 1st Kings chapter 10.
The Apostle Paul, who wrote several books in the new testament was a highly educated man. He was a trained lawyer, and Pharisee. He studied under the leading Jewish lawyer of Paul's day; Acts 22:3.
My favorite saying that is a delusion is that all the ancient Jews were was goat herders and agrarian people. This is simply not true.
However, what people could exist without agriculture or animals? None. Therefore, just because there was agriculture and animal herding, that doesn't mean the people were stupid.
Also, a judge of the highest court in the land became a Christan; Acts 17:34
I really don't think the point is that the birth is of a 'virgin' originally. The idea that 'gods' or astronauts from elsewhere, inseminate a woman is old and the story is strong enough without adding 'purity' to it. Most of the early translations of 'virgin' I believe could mean 'maiden' which could simply mean they hadn't had children yet, rather than haven't been deflowered. The fact that Zeus took on various forms intimates for me that the subject being inseminated was in a dreamlike or trance state where forms are perceived as fluid.
You need to provide a credible link that demonstrates the validity of YOUR ASSERTION - or such a comment amounts to no more than trolling.
Hanged not Hung, at least it is in English.
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