we would like to see an article that deals with the concept of the Supreme Being in various cultures throughout history.
i feel that many in the academic circles seldom address this topic which is a well established and scientifically proven fact ------ that every nation on earth have the memory of the One God in their myths.
To J.R. Bentley, My head must be on upside down! I meant the Anasazi are ancestors of the Hopi, Zuni and other Pueblo peoples! Not the other way around. And, yes, "Anasazi "DOES mean "Ancient Enemy" in the Navajo language. Hope you can excuse my errors. Cheers
Here’s something that makes a lot of sense to me in theTimelines of Civilizations past. I think this shows it may be just a normal Long term Cycle and it may actually get a whole lot colder pretty soon.
My name is Eric and I live in Saint Augustine Florida. The oldest city in North America. I’ve always enjoyed history but I have developed a passion of late for ancient history.I must admit I do watch Ancient Aliens. Yes it is very hokey but at the same time fascinating. It has led me to learn about several ancient sites and cultures. Places like Puma Punku fascinate me to no end. I know what these Ancient Astronaut Theorists think of it for example but I also want to know what the “official” theory of its origins and age etc. etc. I’m excited to have found these forums as I also want to discuss and hear other peoples thoughts and opinions. I’m happy to be here and if it seems like I may be playing 20 questions at times, I apologize that is not the case. I just have major thirst for knowledge!
Pretty sure the Anasazi were first… Their vast Civilization disbanded into smaller more recent Clans like the Zuni and the Hopi due to a suspected Extreme drought. From what I understand the Anasazi has been dated back to at least 2500 Bc as first practicing agriculture, They were hunter gatherers from back to about 9000 years ago from what I have read. And you may be right about the Navajo, I just read that in Navajo tounge “Anasazi” actually means “Ancient Enemies” not “Ancient Ones" !
It's been my understanding that the Zuni and other Pueblo peoples are the ancestors of the Anasazi. I'm not sure the Navajo fall under that category. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But I see your point and have to agree.
Thank you for the article Sir.. I have been currently studying that theory, The Ancient stories of what I think were the last three Glacial/Interglacial periods. The Hopi connection to the Ancient Scandinavian Creation Stories are hard to dismiss. Of Course the Hopi are indeed a later line of the “Pueblo” Cultures and I hold high regard for their stories, always have, but it is important to give the credit for the Structures and Math of those at Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde to the Anasazi, because not even the Hopi or the Navajo truly know the History of these “Ancient Ones” before them. The math was truly with the Anasazi alone.
The Anasazi were found at places most do not know of...Such as in the Grand Canyon who became the Supai, Havasupai and the Hualapai. They are suspected to also be the ancestors of the Freemont In Utah and Nevada because several Anasazi Cultures have been found just east of Las Vegas in the Virgin River/ Lake Mead area, and in Red Rock Canyon and Mount Charleston.
I hold a lot of stock in what the Hopi and others have predicted about the next coming Cycle… and do indeed understand and appreciate the Metaphors. Great stuff! thank you! Right up my alley!
Thank you for your response. There are no fire pits, no burial grounds, no water, and when people try to stay inside any of the rooms at Chaco, there is no ventilation for the smoke to leave the rooms. Navajo, who came from the North, do not live in villages, or fire pottery, gave the name Anasazi to the people of Chaco. The Hopi remember when they first came to their villages. The Hopi were here much earlier and came from the South. I believe the Grardians built and lived at Chaco. There is a very good doc. Called “The Mystery of Chaco Canyon” you might be interested in. Took her 30 years to make it. Other Guradians could have started other tribes on the east side of the country. I have a Hopi point of view because I lived with them. If you read their Creation Story just insert the word “Pyramid” for the ant hills and “Polar Ice Cap for the two Twins.
On page 516 of “Hotevilla” by Elder Dan Evehema and Thomas E. Mails Dan quotes MMaasaw as saying, “I have planned for the day when man forgets his purpose and goes against My laws. I have reserved the water, in the form of ice and snow, for My own use as a weapon for punishment to be applied when mankind gets out of control.”
So, I think the heat generated from Earth’s path and our pollution are causing the snow and ice to melt. Just my thoughts.
Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde were the Anasazi,...Ancestors of the Hopi...and the Navajo...and numerous other tribes around the Southwest in Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada. Even a few in the Central East like the Chickasaw and Choctaw. To imply that these earlier Peoples and Structures as belonging to just the Hopi is an injustice to a Civilization that once reached a much larger area than just the Hopi lands. Many different Stories and Religious beliefs came from this Culture not just the Hopi Stories.
They may have been the ancestors of the Hopi but the Hopi did not build the structures you mentioned here. They were built long before by a Culture that we really do not know much about, let alone their stories…But the Hopi Stories are very interesting. They have a strong likeness to many of the Native North and South American Stories. The Hopi Story of the past World Cycles has a great similarity to the Scandinavian Stories of Creation. I find their concern for the world “Tipping over” very very interesting! I think they may have let the Cat out of the Bag with that one...
We live in the forth time, the previous civilisations being destroyed by fire, ice and water. Are we to be destroyed by wind/air or a gas, such as carbon dioxide or methane or the like?
I know it goes without saying as somewhere someones said it before but on the matter there was no flood, is a common misconception that it wasnt so in that it was only 40 days, is seen otherwise in genesis 7 & 8, in chapter 7 it says Noe entered the ark in the 600th year of his life, on the 17th day of the 2nd month...so mankinds gone hes now last oldest person, history or time, for the sake of being as one much as can contend if no one else exsists the year would be whatever his day of birth is as we dont keep date of the earth we keep with date whose before us or in power even or just exsisting this may seem farfecthed but in chapter 8 it says in the 601st year, in the 1st month, on the 1st day of the month the waters were dried off the earth. However it wasnt until the 2nd month on the 27th day of the 601 year Noe went out of the ark
Noe was on the ark a year and 10 days.
At any rate the day he entered the ark it says all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of heaven opened, then it rained 40 days and 40 nights, after this the waters still continued to rise 40 days to 15 cubits or 45 ft roughly above the highest mountains. At the end of chapter 7 it says waters rose on the earth 150 days, the majority of the water was to be from earth it self as it says the fountains of the great deep, in job it mentions springs of the deep once thought not real too, whis has been proven that even beneath earths crust there is water , at start of chapter 8 it says God remembered Noe the fountains of the deep were closed and the floodgates of heaven too.
In the beginning of genesis it says the face of God was stirring above the waters, then made light and dark first day, it wasnt until the 3rd day he made land, dry land.
Believe it or not Black Witches still exist in the world today and are still binding people in consciousness, casting spells etc. I am a shaman and I have had many dealings with a black witches in this life. Spirit or the divine source works through my consciousness to undo spells, hexes and curses and what has been bound in consciousness through hidden means. I don't get paid for doing this work, spirit simply works through me, to undo damage that has been done by black witches. It is all rather fascinating. Spirit couldn't undo a binding or a curse or spell through my consciousness if I had not participated in black witch craft in other life times, which I did. In this life I had black witch craft cleansed and purified from my consciousness, so that I can work with love and understanding and compassion to transform the damage done by black witches. You have to remember that black witches are no different to someone that seeks human power and control through manipulation or any other means, Black witches generally have an extremely wounded inner child that has never been healed, they are damaged people.
If your involved in any form of politics or seeing oneself as an expert,or you seek power over others in any size shape or form then your playing the human power game. 85% of people on the planet are involved in playing the human power game on some level. So before you judge others look at your own shadow self to what you need to transform and heal in order not to play human power games..
"For example, an official of the Sixth Dynasty of the Old Kingdom claimed that he visited Punt and Byblos eleven times."
Byblos is North of Egypt, so one would expect Punt to be North also - if the official visited both places on the same trip.
If Punt translates to the Holy Land - as it does - perhaps Israel and Jerusalem were Punt. Others have put forward that idea. That area was also called the Holy Land in ancient times, long before the Christian era. The portion of the Bible that deals with Jerusalem and it's acquisition by Israel also indicates it was considered a holy place at that time.
Josephus referred to the Queen of Sbeba as queen of Egypt and Ethiopia, so some have also argued that Sheba and Hatsheput were the same person.
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we would like to see an article that deals with the concept of the Supreme Being in various cultures throughout history.
i feel that many in the academic circles seldom address this topic which is a well established and scientifically proven fact ------ that every nation on earth have the memory of the One God in their myths.
thank you
You have mirrored my thoughts precisely – that’s uncanny Eric!
To J.R. Bentley, My head must be on upside down! I meant the Anasazi are ancestors of the Hopi, Zuni and other Pueblo peoples! Not the other way around. And, yes, "Anasazi "DOES mean "Ancient Enemy" in the Navajo language. Hope you can excuse my errors. Cheers
Here’s something that makes a lot of sense to me in theTimelines of Civilizations past. I think this shows it may be just a normal Long term Cycle and it may actually get a whole lot colder pretty soon.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/abrupt/data2.html
My name is Eric and I live in Saint Augustine Florida. The oldest city in North America. I’ve always enjoyed history but I have developed a passion of late for ancient history.I must admit I do watch Ancient Aliens. Yes it is very hokey but at the same time fascinating. It has led me to learn about several ancient sites and cultures. Places like Puma Punku fascinate me to no end. I know what these Ancient Astronaut Theorists think of it for example but I also want to know what the “official” theory of its origins and age etc. etc. I’m excited to have found these forums as I also want to discuss and hear other peoples thoughts and opinions. I’m happy to be here and if it seems like I may be playing 20 questions at times, I apologize that is not the case. I just have major thirst for knowledge!
Pretty sure the Anasazi were first… Their vast Civilization disbanded into smaller more recent Clans like the Zuni and the Hopi due to a suspected Extreme drought. From what I understand the Anasazi has been dated back to at least 2500 Bc as first practicing agriculture, They were hunter gatherers from back to about 9000 years ago from what I have read. And you may be right about the Navajo, I just read that in Navajo tounge “Anasazi” actually means “Ancient Enemies” not “Ancient Ones" !
It's been my understanding that the Zuni and other Pueblo peoples are the ancestors of the Anasazi. I'm not sure the Navajo fall under that category. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But I see your point and have to agree.
Thank you for the article Sir.. I have been currently studying that theory, The Ancient stories of what I think were the last three Glacial/Interglacial periods. The Hopi connection to the Ancient Scandinavian Creation Stories are hard to dismiss. Of Course the Hopi are indeed a later line of the “Pueblo” Cultures and I hold high regard for their stories, always have, but it is important to give the credit for the Structures and Math of those at Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde to the Anasazi, because not even the Hopi or the Navajo truly know the History of these “Ancient Ones” before them. The math was truly with the Anasazi alone.
The Anasazi were found at places most do not know of...Such as in the Grand Canyon who became the Supai, Havasupai and the Hualapai. They are suspected to also be the ancestors of the Freemont In Utah and Nevada because several Anasazi Cultures have been found just east of Las Vegas in the Virgin River/ Lake Mead area, and in Red Rock Canyon and Mount Charleston.
I hold a lot of stock in what the Hopi and others have predicted about the next coming Cycle… and do indeed understand and appreciate the Metaphors. Great stuff! thank you! Right up my alley!
Thank you for your response. There are no fire pits, no burial grounds, no water, and when people try to stay inside any of the rooms at Chaco, there is no ventilation for the smoke to leave the rooms. Navajo, who came from the North, do not live in villages, or fire pottery, gave the name Anasazi to the people of Chaco. The Hopi remember when they first came to their villages. The Hopi were here much earlier and came from the South. I believe the Grardians built and lived at Chaco. There is a very good doc. Called “The Mystery of Chaco Canyon” you might be interested in. Took her 30 years to make it. Other Guradians could have started other tribes on the east side of the country. I have a Hopi point of view because I lived with them. If you read their Creation Story just insert the word “Pyramid” for the ant hills and “Polar Ice Cap for the two Twins.
all the best. tom
On page 516 of “Hotevilla” by Elder Dan Evehema and Thomas E. Mails Dan quotes MMaasaw as saying, “I have planned for the day when man forgets his purpose and goes against My laws. I have reserved the water, in the form of ice and snow, for My own use as a weapon for punishment to be applied when mankind gets out of control.”
So, I think the heat generated from Earth’s path and our pollution are causing the snow and ice to melt. Just my thoughts.
Thank You. My mistake. tom
Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde were the Anasazi,...Ancestors of the Hopi...and the Navajo...and numerous other tribes around the Southwest in Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada. Even a few in the Central East like the Chickasaw and Choctaw. To imply that these earlier Peoples and Structures as belonging to just the Hopi is an injustice to a Civilization that once reached a much larger area than just the Hopi lands. Many different Stories and Religious beliefs came from this Culture not just the Hopi Stories.
They may have been the ancestors of the Hopi but the Hopi did not build the structures you mentioned here. They were built long before by a Culture that we really do not know much about, let alone their stories…But the Hopi Stories are very interesting. They have a strong likeness to many of the Native North and South American Stories. The Hopi Story of the past World Cycles has a great similarity to the Scandinavian Stories of Creation. I find their concern for the world “Tipping over” very very interesting! I think they may have let the Cat out of the Bag with that one...
We live in the forth time, the previous civilisations being destroyed by fire, ice and water. Are we to be destroyed by wind/air or a gas, such as carbon dioxide or methane or the like?
It's the PREcession of equinoxes, not PROcession of equinoxes. They move backwards, hence PRE. It's not a ceremonial procession. Honest.
I know it goes without saying as somewhere someones said it before but on the matter there was no flood, is a common misconception that it wasnt so in that it was only 40 days, is seen otherwise in genesis 7 & 8, in chapter 7 it says Noe entered the ark in the 600th year of his life, on the 17th day of the 2nd month...so mankinds gone hes now last oldest person, history or time, for the sake of being as one much as can contend if no one else exsists the year would be whatever his day of birth is as we dont keep date of the earth we keep with date whose before us or in power even or just exsisting this may seem farfecthed but in chapter 8 it says in the 601st year, in the 1st month, on the 1st day of the month the waters were dried off the earth. However it wasnt until the 2nd month on the 27th day of the 601 year Noe went out of the ark
Noe was on the ark a year and 10 days.
At any rate the day he entered the ark it says all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of heaven opened, then it rained 40 days and 40 nights, after this the waters still continued to rise 40 days to 15 cubits or 45 ft roughly above the highest mountains. At the end of chapter 7 it says waters rose on the earth 150 days, the majority of the water was to be from earth it self as it says the fountains of the great deep, in job it mentions springs of the deep once thought not real too, whis has been proven that even beneath earths crust there is water , at start of chapter 8 it says God remembered Noe the fountains of the deep were closed and the floodgates of heaven too.
In the beginning of genesis it says the face of God was stirring above the waters, then made light and dark first day, it wasnt until the 3rd day he made land, dry land.
Could this be a Cetiya from the Buddhist era?
She did not say that "aliens" don't exist; she said she wasn't a believer in alien hybrids ...
Believe it or not Black Witches still exist in the world today and are still binding people in consciousness, casting spells etc. I am a shaman and I have had many dealings with a black witches in this life. Spirit or the divine source works through my consciousness to undo spells, hexes and curses and what has been bound in consciousness through hidden means. I don't get paid for doing this work, spirit simply works through me, to undo damage that has been done by black witches. It is all rather fascinating. Spirit couldn't undo a binding or a curse or spell through my consciousness if I had not participated in black witch craft in other life times, which I did. In this life I had black witch craft cleansed and purified from my consciousness, so that I can work with love and understanding and compassion to transform the damage done by black witches. You have to remember that black witches are no different to someone that seeks human power and control through manipulation or any other means, Black witches generally have an extremely wounded inner child that has never been healed, they are damaged people.
If your involved in any form of politics or seeing oneself as an expert,or you seek power over others in any size shape or form then your playing the human power game. 85% of people on the planet are involved in playing the human power game on some level. So before you judge others look at your own shadow self to what you need to transform and heal in order not to play human power games..
"For example, an official of the Sixth Dynasty of the Old Kingdom claimed that he visited Punt and Byblos eleven times."
Byblos is North of Egypt, so one would expect Punt to be North also - if the official visited both places on the same trip.
If Punt translates to the Holy Land - as it does - perhaps Israel and Jerusalem were Punt. Others have put forward that idea. That area was also called the Holy Land in ancient times, long before the Christian era. The portion of the Bible that deals with Jerusalem and it's acquisition by Israel also indicates it was considered a holy place at that time.
Josephus referred to the Queen of Sbeba as queen of Egypt and Ethiopia, so some have also argued that Sheba and Hatsheput were the same person.
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