Stonehenge and the Hopi: Hidden Messages Connecting Sacred Sites

Stonehenge and the Hopi: Hidden Messages Connecting Sacred Sites

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The Hopi were watching the sun rise and set at specific points on the horizon from fixed locations in their villages long before the Spaniards arrived in 1540.  Many of their most important ceremonies were based on the sun’s location; the equinox, the summer and winter solstice, and the halfway points between the two.

Hopi pueblo in Arizona, 1879.

Hopi pueblo in Arizona, 1879. ( Public Domain )

The Spaniards found them early in the morning, looking east, waiting for the sun to rise and praying the earth would stay on its delicate balance and not roll over. The Spanish called them Moqui or people with running noses.  The Hopi called themselves the Peaceful People or the Peaceful Little Ones, ( Hopitu-Shi-nu-mu).

Hopi Women's Dance, 1879, Oraibi, Arizona, photo by John K. Hillers

Hopi Women's Dance, 1879, Oraibi, Arizona, photo by John K. Hillers ( Public Domain )

The Spaniards did not know what to make of the nine large, peaceful villages on three mesas and the people who showered them with hospitality, corn, melons, peaches, and bright colored weavings and baskets.  Why would anyone live in this location with no running water, no soil, no beneficial weather for their crops, and no trees to build their homes?

Ancient Hopi Village of Wolpi. Arizona, USA.

Ancient Hopi Village of Wolpi. Arizona, USA. ( Public Domain )

The Hopi Guardian

The Hopi Guardian (Maasaw), that saved the Hopi before a great flood and brought them to this location after traveling east over a large ocean, showed them the exact location where he wanted them to live.  He also told the peaceful people to expect other races to come to their land in the future, but not to resist or fight them but to welcome them. The Hopi welcomed the Spaniards for the next 140 years, or until 1680 when the Spaniards tried to change their religion. This was to be the only time the Hopi rose in anger and they drove the Spaniards off to the east. Here the Spanish inhabited the villages of Zuni, Acoma, Taos, and other villages that lived on rivers with running water and they converted them to their Catholic religion. The Hopi still wait for their long lost white brother to return to their villages and complete their ceremonial cycles as Maasaw had instructed them.

A Hopi petroglyph in Mesa Verde National Park. The boxy spiral shape near the center of the photo likely represents the sipapu, the place where the Hopi emerged from the earth in their creation story.

A Hopi petroglyph in Mesa Verde National Park. The boxy spiral shape near the center of the photo likely represents the sipapu, the place where the Hopi emerged from the earth in their creation story. ( Public Domain )

Worlds Destroyed by Fire and Ice

In 1882 the United States government created the Hopi Reservation. The land was so poor that no one wanted to move the Peaceful People, so the Hopi still occupy the land that they were given in the beginning.  They do not consider themselves to be on a reservation; they are at home, exactly where they are supposed to be. They have never changed their religion.

Historians believe that the village of Oraibi on Third Mesa is the oldest continuously inhabited village in the United States, although many suggest that Shongopovi, on Second Mesa was really the oldest site, and known as the navel.   

Hopi woman of Oraibi making coiled pottery, 1899.

Hopi woman of Oraibi making coiled pottery, 1899. ( Public Domain )

It is the Hopi belief that the period of time we live in today is the fourth time the Creator has tried to populate the planet.  This might explain many of the ancient ruins— pyramids, stone circles, and underground chambers— that no one has an explanation for today.  The first world was destroyed by fire, the second by ice, and the third by a great flood.  The first two events happened at a predetermined time and the third, the great flood, came early, or ahead of its time.  How would past civilizations leave us this message?   

What structure could they build that would withstand the fire, the ice, and the water?  What measurement system would they use to convey the message?

Celestial Alignments

We know that ancient civilizations like the Mayan’s and the builders of the pyramid complex in Egypt, (I believe the builders of the pyramid complex gave us the first record of the constellations in the ceiling of Dendera for a very important reason) knew about the procession of the equinoxes.  Today, we see that it was written about in the Vedanga of India around 700 BCE and many credit Greek astronomer and mathematician Hipparchus of Nicaea (190 – c. 120 BC) as discovering it in the second century. 

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It's the PREcession of equinoxes, not PROcession of equinoxes. They move backwards, hence PRE. It's not a ceremonial procession. Honest.

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Thank You.   My mistake.   tom

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Cousin_Jack's picture

We live in the forth time, the previous civilisations being destroyed by fire, ice and water. Are we to be destroyed by wind/air or a gas, such as carbon dioxide or methane or the like?

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On page 516 of “Hotevilla” by Elder Dan Evehema and Thomas E. Mails Dan quotes MMaasaw as saying, “I have planned for the day when man forgets his purpose and goes against My laws.  I have reserved the water, in the form of ice and snow, for My own use as a weapon for punishment to be applied when mankind gets out of control.”   

So, I think the heat generated from Earth’s path and our pollution are causing the snow and ice to melt.    Just my thoughts.  

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Here’s something that makes a lot of sense to me in theTimelines of Civilizations past. I think this shows it may be just a normal Long term Cycle and it may actually get a whole lot colder pretty soon. 

  http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/abrupt/data2.html

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Morning J. R.  Makes a lot of sence to me also.  If you compare Hapgood’s 100,000 year of climate change chart, page 94 of his book, Path of the Poles, to your graph, you see that there is a cycle around 25,920 year mark, or 75,000, 50,000, 25,000, and the Hopi tell me the last cycle came early or 12,500 years ago.  This was the last time period the poles melted.   It is also the time someone settled on the west side of the continent at Monte Verde, Chile after crossiing the ocean.   Thanks.   Tom

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That this Graph shows a regular cycle back 350,000 years. I have read a few that show the same Cycle back to 1 Million years. If Homo-Erectus is 700,000 years old or more they would have lived through all of these Extreme Cycles. Man could have advanced and then been retarded again numerous times in these Regular 100,000 year intervals. We need to dig deeper when we Dig and look back farther when we look. The last Ice Age is but a slit second in the timeline of possible Expansion and Development of Past Mankind and Civilizations.

  Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde were the Anasazi,...Ancestors of the Hopi...and the Navajo...and numerous other tribes around the Southwest in Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and Nevada. Even a few in the Central East like the Chickasaw and Choctaw. To imply that these earlier Peoples and Structures as belonging to just the Hopi is an injustice to a Civilization that once reached a much larger area than just the Hopi lands. Many different Stories and Religious beliefs came from this Culture not just the Hopi Stories.

  They may have been the ancestors of the Hopi but the Hopi did not build the structures you mentioned here. They were built long before by a Culture that we really do not know much about, let alone their stories…But the Hopi Stories are very interesting. They have a strong likeness to many of the Native North and South American Stories. The Hopi Story of the past World Cycles has a great similarity to the Scandinavian Stories of Creation. I find their concern for the world “Tipping over” very very interesting! I think they may have let the Cat out of the Bag with that one...

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Thank you for your response.   There are no fire pits, no burial grounds, no water, and when people try to stay inside any of the rooms at Chaco, there is no ventilation for the smoke to leave the rooms.   Navajo, who came from the North, do not live in villages, or fire pottery, gave the name Anasazi to the people of Chaco.   The Hopi remember when they first came to their villages.  The Hopi were here much earlier and came from the South.     I believe the Grardians built and lived at Chaco.  There is a very good doc. Called “The Mystery of Chaco Canyon” you might be interested in.   Took her 30 years to make it.     Other Guradians could have started other tribes on the east side of the country.   I have a Hopi point of view because I lived with them.   If you read their Creation Story just insert the word “Pyramid” for the ant hills and “Polar Ice Cap for the two Twins.

all the best.   tom 

Thomas O. Mills

  Thank you for the article Sir.. I have been currently studying that theory, The Ancient stories of what I think were the last three Glacial/Interglacial periods. The Hopi connection to the Ancient Scandinavian Creation Stories are hard to dismiss. Of Course the Hopi are indeed a later line of the “Pueblo” Cultures and I hold high regard for their stories, always have, but it is important to give the credit for the Structures and Math of those at Chaco Canyon and Mesa Verde to the Anasazi, because not even the Hopi or the Navajo truly know the History of these “Ancient Ones” before them. The math was truly with the Anasazi alone. 

  The Anasazi were found at places most do not know of...Such as in the Grand Canyon who became the Supai, Havasupai and the Hualapai. They are suspected to also be the ancestors of the Freemont In Utah and Nevada because several Anasazi Cultures have been found just east of Las Vegas in the Virgin River/ Lake Mead area, and in Red Rock Canyon and Mount Charleston.

I hold a lot of stock in what the Hopi and others have predicted about the next coming Cycle… and do indeed understand and appreciate the Metaphors. Great stuff! thank you! Right up my alley!

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Hello J. R.    When the Hopi talk about Chaco Canyon they say that the bow clan might have had something to do with building it account of the shape of the bow and the rattle.  As I mentioned earlier I think it was built by the guardians that brought the different tribes here in the beginning of this cycle.  I’m not sure we could build it today.   The buildings line up with the summer and winter solctice, the equinox, and even the 18 year moon cycles.  All this information is punctuated at a circle carved in stone on top of a mesa and each year at those times the light of the sun shots a dagger through the circle.  The building are 15 or more miles apart and strange lines run off into no where, which we call roads for no better term.  I think it all releates to the constellations and earth’s location in space, another topic. 

The Hopi are releated to all the tribes you mentioned and Kachinas from them join in on the dances and bring rain to the villages.   all the best.    tom

Thomas O. Mills

I am familiar with the Solstice Project, been following it for years now. The discovery of the additional Moon displays are of the most interest.

  http://www.solsticeproject.org/astromark.htm

But I didn’t know was that there is an interactive astronomical marker at Pueblo Bonito. I need to dig more!

Origins? I think early Man was not “afraid of the Water” and knew how to float. The Arctic Ocean touches every Continent but Australia. Looking at a Polar Map as the center...the World gets a whole lot smaller. I think our scope and perspective is scewed by the Mercator Projection...

It's been my understanding that the Zuni and other Pueblo peoples are the ancestors of the Anasazi. I'm not sure the Navajo fall under that category. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But I see your point and have to agree.

Pretty sure the Anasazi were first… Their vast Civilization disbanded into smaller more recent Clans like the Zuni and the Hopi due to a suspected Extreme drought. From what I understand the Anasazi has been dated back to at least 2500 Bc as first practicing agriculture, They were hunter gatherers from back to about 9000 years ago from what I have read. And you may be right about the Navajo, I just read that in Navajo tounge “Anasazi” actually means “Ancient Enemies” not “Ancient Ones" !

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Morning Cathy,  Nancy Yau Davis from Alaska wrote an interesting book called “The Zuni  Enigma”  She explains the many similiarites between the Zuni and the Japanese.  The Hopi have many similiarities with the Tibetan people, on the opposite side of the earth.   There is a large difference between the Navajo/Apache Na-dene speaking people and the Pueblo people.   The Hopi always told me that the Navajo sopke like seals and their hogans were like igloos only made of mud.   The big question would be where did we all come from?      Thanks for the comment.  tom

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To J.R. Bentley, My head must be on upside down! I meant the Anasazi are ancestors of the Hopi, Zuni and other Pueblo peoples! Not the other way around. And, yes, "Anasazi "DOES mean "Ancient Enemy" in the Navajo language. Hope you can excuse my errors. Cheers

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No problem J. R.   Thanks for the comment.   tom

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It’s all good, I do that all the Time myself. What’s important is to reply and get involved! Thanks!

Evening, J.R. I think with all of your research, you have come to the crux of the matter of past civilizations and their time(s) on earth. I, too, am beginning to put credence in your conclusions from a little research of my own. I was blessed to have spent some time on the "res" with some Hopi friends. (We spent time together elsewhere as well). But our friendship was based mostly on Art and Second Mesa activities. Most of the studying I've done is from books, classes with a Hopi-Navajo teacher and visiting various sites on my own. Enjoying your input!

I am just starting to put two and two together based on Hints and Contributions here at Ancient Origins! Articles by the wonderful team of experts here at AO and the replies of others have pointed me in this direction of discovery. So much is starting to fall together and make sense.

If I didn’t think the Spam Filter would grab it...I would compile a list of mostly internal AO article links that all point to this theory of possibility for you. There are a bunch of them!

To Thomas O. Mills, What you are saying is very interesting. I've unfortunately been caught up in the minutiae and missed the forest for the trees! Your comparison of the Hopi Religion to sites like Stonehenge are quite fascinating and seem to have a lot of merit. You did the math for us, too. I like the way your mind works. It's intriguing how you came upon this theory. I really want to see the doc and read the recommended material. Thank you for this enlightening article.

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Morning Cathy,  Your welcome and thank you for mentioning the math.  If correct each division of twelve at Stonehenge should have:  

2 ½ large stones    2.5 x 864 years = 2160     and

5 small stones        5 x 432 years   = 2160

Good things in your future.    tom

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An ancient connection that joins all ancient sites globally.

The interpretation of the zodiac of Denderah is perhaps a little lost. It is obvious when reading the Celestial zodiac that the picture of Nut refers to the Celestial zodiac, but most importantly the circular zodiac is a record of the World zones and animal observations. This zodiac rotates in the opposite direction to the Celestial zodiac of Nut as it is a record of the twelve zones of the Earth and observations of the animals and there anatomical connection. One major factor with this circular World zodiac is the noted position of Cancer. This is the connection of Stonehenge and it is positioned more Northern to the other equatorial points. 

To see the twelve connections between the Celestial zodiac and the twelve Earth zodiac points and to see how the design of Stonehenge matches the design of Cancer please visit the following site;-

 http://thenewperspective21.wixsite.com/anewworld/upcoming-articles     (download from here)

Our ancient teachers told us, to interpret the order of the Celestial configuration you must study life on Earth, the manifestation of these Celestial energies.

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Morning Mr. Sears and thank you for your comment.  I looked at your site and the Hopi also talk of Chakras, celestial order and balance, in their Creation Story. 

 

The world zones and  animal observations are new to me.   The Zodiac ceiling shows the overlap of earth’s two paths, the celestial and the ecliptic.  Where these two paths cross gives us different dates and divides our path around the sun into twelve equal points, 2,160 apart which we call ages, with the next occurrence coming in the year 2,100.   Refer Tompkins Secrets of the Great Pyramid, page 172.  

 

For someone to know this many, many years ago and go to the trouble of carving it in stone, in a ceiling, it had to be of great importance.  How would ancient man even have know about our moving one degree ever 72 years along this path when we don’t think their life span was that long.   On page 168 of the same book, Lockyer goes on to explain that the temple of Dendera may have been rebuilt at least three times, so this is their 4th attempt to send us the message.   

 

I think it all about time and balance, Earth’s location in space.   

 

All the best.   tom 

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The great discovery that the Celestial body connected directly to the Earths body must have been an amazing time for the World. The discovery of our animals moving to the pattern is also lost I believe. Each of the signs are about a different connection to the anatomy. The ram has the dynamic of the horns, the bull has the neck, Leo the lungs, Virgo the womb. The connection between the three structures of life were made and recorded in stone. Life on Earth, the body of the World and the Celestial body. Virgo marks the womb of the World as Israel is known as the land of Virgo, Leo is the Sphinx, Cancer is Stonehenge.... It must have been a great uniting of the World back then. 

The important aspect about the Denderah zodiacs is that one is of the World and is round and the other is of the Celestial connection. The reason they rotate in different directions, if you put your hands together, they match up but as you move them apart, and you look from the middle they are a reflection, like looking at the World and at the stars. 

I have been recently focusing on planetary motion theories and the contemporary scientific theories. I hoped you enjoyed the article on the movement of life about the planetary life-cycle, this is all about the phases of the Earths evolution and location in space. 

I came too late to join the discussion, which is very interesting and revealing to me. I might be knocking at the open door, but just wonder if the peculiar Hopi language (use of tense) has anything to do with other peculiarities discussed.

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