I’m afraid I can’t say for sure where you might be able to read the Name Nodes but here are some more details. "The Name 'Nodens'" is the title of an essay by J.R.R. Tolkien, first published in July 1932 as Appendix I to Report on the Excavation of the Prehistoric, Roman, and Post-Roman Site in Lydney Park, Gloucestershire. In 2007, the essay was reprinted in Tolkien Studies, volume 4. You will find details of that publication here:
At first glance, the Acambaro figurines do not appear to be genuine, due to the deviation from what would be considered the “typical” styles of the region during the time period in question. This is the standard, nearly automatic answer given by the vast majority of archeaologists when confronted by “atypical” findings, which go against the currently accepted theories.
Insofar as verifying the authenticity of the artifacts goes, there are several basic “rule of thumb” techniques which can be used even by amateur archaelogists to determine if the objects “might” be authentic. All artifacts which have been the soil for periods of hundreds, or sometimes even thousand of years typically have indicators which may be used to “get a feel”, so to speak, of their possible authenticity.
One of these indicators is the presence of “root marks” on the surface of the artifact. These are small lines on the surface caused by the root systems of nearby plants which have rested against the object and left their traces on its outer layer.
Another method is the presence of Manganese deposits or “Manganese Blooms” on the surface of the piece. These marks are present in many ceramic objects which have been in the ground for a long period of time.
Thermoluminescence is used primarily as a dating technique, and if done correctly is a reasonably accurate dating tool, but is only used when there is a high probability of the artifact being authentic, and possibly of great value. This is due to the highly technical, and very costly process utilized.
Are the Acambaro figurines real, or are they fake? Until more research is done, the truth will not be known, but for me, with the evidence being what it is, I simply have to call fake. I do hope that I am proven wrong since verifying their legitimacy would turn the entire scientific community upside down. Something that I personally would enjoy watching.
myself i am not a member of this group but this is from their website "We accept members of different races, religions, backgrounds, and creeds. When members put on the S.O.O. USA Odin’s Head all personal beliefs are forgotten and we all stand together." how do you get racism from this statement
Seriously? Why would anyone take serious an "educational mode" that has camels prominently displayed? Did they not hire any Egyptologist that could tell them that there were no camels in ancient Egypt ? If they can't get that basic detail squared away, why should we take serious anything else ?
Unfortunately for the U.S., this is exactly what is happening at this point in our history. The perpetrators of this assault upon our history are simply the tools of a powerful group who’s ultimate goal is the control and subjugation of our population. The people who are being used have been conditioned to believe that they are somehow being wronged. or offended in some way by an inanimate structure such as a statue, and are totally unaware that they are being manipulated by an unseen group.
Well said! I am sorry if I ruffled your feathers a bit, but the tone of your post was similar to many posts by internet trolls, who only appear when there is an opportunity to stir up problems, and cause general chaos on a good site.
Apparently, you are not one of those, and your comment was indeed, intelligent and to the point. I did not intend to be condescending, and I am sorry if I appeared that way to you, but I believe that you can see my point as well.
And your condescending comment is an intelligent contribution? Really? In this field, like any serious field, credibility is king. If you're writing an article on Muhammed Ali & lead with picture of Mike Tyson, you've lost any argument you present before you start. Would people accept Tyson's photo as 'a representation of the best heavyweight boxer ever? I hope I don't have to answer that for you.
This field is all about attention to detail, and a mistake like this merits comment, indeed even ridicule, so therefore, is indeed an intelligent contribution.
The photo at the top of the article is used as a representation ofthe pyrimids at Giza, and nothing more. I am certain that the author is totally aware of the difference between the two, and really does not require you, me or anyone else to educate her on that particular bit of information.
The article, however, is worthy of comment, and if you had actually read the text, instead of stopping at the first photo, you might actually have something intelligent to contribute here.
"...leaves us in the dark with the misperception that our ancestors were superstitious, illogical and insane"
This statement stuck with me. Even though I think the information is interesting and compelling. It's amazing how prevalent six fingers are in history.
But it's too tempting to compare that to people now and laugh. Not to be flippant, but I can't think anything else but how foolish people can be. Wars over religion could make future people's believe we were ALL devout, and our gods were real. There are SO many churches, and religion is sprinkled over much of our public lives. Swearing oaths on a bible comes to mind. From the outside looking in, we in the USA could be seen as true believers. So, do we have secret knowledge? Or pervasive delusions?
Ancient people might not have been any different than people now, and honestly, religion always seems to seek control over people. Theocracy doesn't have a good reputation, but not because it hasn't been tried enough times and religious extremists always seem to want to harm others. Much of Europe was ruled by monarchy that claimed religious authority.
Nope. Believing the ancients weren't stupid only works if you don't believe people are stupid now. And...well I'm from the Bible belt Midwest that's so red and the people so white...I can't believe people can't be stupid in large groups. Honestly, there's KKK groups in my county, they argue about transgender bathrooms in my school system, and don't get me started about incidents like Ferguson. Because that's just up the highway, and that kid was walking to his grandma's house, starting college in two days, and should not be dead. Sorry, I just had to say that.
Nope. People can believe wildly stupid things. And I don't think you have to believe ancient people were illogical, insane or superstitious to believe their authorities and anyone seeking to achieve power acted that way.
Very interesting article, and not giving ancient people any credit for acting more knowledgeable doesn't detract from how amazing all the artifacts and stories are from all over the world. Wow. Six fingered people, who'd have thought.
"The Sword in the Stone first appears in Robert de Boron’s Merlin, in which Arthur pulls out the sword that was set by the wizard in an anvil (which was changed by later writers into a stone)."
I'm a blacksmith and well-versed in the history and lore of forging iron and steel. Anciently, many anvils were actually made of stone.
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The Plimpton 322 appears to be a very significant find with potential uses for our modern day society. A civilization which, not only created mathematics using a Base 60 system, but allowed them to achieve more accurate trigonometric results than todays Base 10 system is astounding. The contribution to better accuracy in surveying and enhanced computer graphics may be only the most obvious of the fields which can see benefits from a system with greater accuracy than is currently available.
One can only wonder what types of problems they were able to solve with this ancient, but clearly superior system of mathematics?
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Aparently so. Good luck getting your hands on it though!
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/The_Diaries_of_J.R.R._Tolkien
I’m afraid I can’t say for sure where you might be able to read the Name Nodes but here are some more details. "The Name 'Nodens'" is the title of an essay by J.R.R. Tolkien, first published in July 1932 as Appendix I to Report on the Excavation of the Prehistoric, Roman, and Post-Roman Site in Lydney Park, Gloucestershire. In 2007, the essay was reprinted in Tolkien Studies, volume 4. You will find details of that publication here:
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolkien_Studies:_Volume_4
I hope that heads you in the right direction.
Where might one find Tolkien's paper on Nodens?
At first glance, the Acambaro figurines do not appear to be genuine, due to the deviation from what would be considered the “typical” styles of the region during the time period in question. This is the standard, nearly automatic answer given by the vast majority of archeaologists when confronted by “atypical” findings, which go against the currently accepted theories.
Insofar as verifying the authenticity of the artifacts goes, there are several basic “rule of thumb” techniques which can be used even by amateur archaelogists to determine if the objects “might” be authentic. All artifacts which have been the soil for periods of hundreds, or sometimes even thousand of years typically have indicators which may be used to “get a feel”, so to speak, of their possible authenticity.
One of these indicators is the presence of “root marks” on the surface of the artifact. These are small lines on the surface caused by the root systems of nearby plants which have rested against the object and left their traces on its outer layer.
Another method is the presence of Manganese deposits or “Manganese Blooms” on the surface of the piece. These marks are present in many ceramic objects which have been in the ground for a long period of time.
Thermoluminescence is used primarily as a dating technique, and if done correctly is a reasonably accurate dating tool, but is only used when there is a high probability of the artifact being authentic, and possibly of great value. This is due to the highly technical, and very costly process utilized.
Are the Acambaro figurines real, or are they fake? Until more research is done, the truth will not be known, but for me, with the evidence being what it is, I simply have to call fake. I do hope that I am proven wrong since verifying their legitimacy would turn the entire scientific community upside down. Something that I personally would enjoy watching.
myself i am not a member of this group but this is from their website "We accept members of different races, religions, backgrounds, and creeds. When members put on the S.O.O. USA Odin’s Head all personal beliefs are forgotten and we all stand together." how do you get racism from this statement
this is cool ! did Tolkien keep a diary ???
Seriously? Why would anyone take serious an "educational mode" that has camels prominently displayed? Did they not hire any Egyptologist that could tell them that there were no camels in ancient Egypt ? If they can't get that basic detail squared away, why should we take serious anything else ?
This is the result of too much relying on positive sciences.
Unfortunately for the U.S., this is exactly what is happening at this point in our history. The perpetrators of this assault upon our history are simply the tools of a powerful group who’s ultimate goal is the control and subjugation of our population. The people who are being used have been conditioned to believe that they are somehow being wronged. or offended in some way by an inanimate structure such as a statue, and are totally unaware that they are being manipulated by an unseen group.
All in all, it is very much like Orwell’s 1984.
Cool. Good to hear! :)
No hard feelings at all. And btw, my comment was about block size, not the photo! :)
Hi Neil,
Well said! I am sorry if I ruffled your feathers a bit, but the tone of your post was similar to many posts by internet trolls, who only appear when there is an opportunity to stir up problems, and cause general chaos on a good site.
Apparently, you are not one of those, and your comment was indeed, intelligent and to the point. I did not intend to be condescending, and I am sorry if I appeared that way to you, but I believe that you can see my point as well.
No hard feelings?
And your condescending comment is an intelligent contribution? Really? In this field, like any serious field, credibility is king. If you're writing an article on Muhammed Ali & lead with picture of Mike Tyson, you've lost any argument you present before you start. Would people accept Tyson's photo as 'a representation of the best heavyweight boxer ever? I hope I don't have to answer that for you.
This field is all about attention to detail, and a mistake like this merits comment, indeed even ridicule, so therefore, is indeed an intelligent contribution.
The photo at the top of the article is used as a representation ofthe pyrimids at Giza, and nothing more. I am certain that the author is totally aware of the difference between the two, and really does not require you, me or anyone else to educate her on that particular bit of information.
The article, however, is worthy of comment, and if you had actually read the text, instead of stopping at the first photo, you might actually have something intelligent to contribute here.
Oshun (known as Ochún or Oxúm in Latin America) also spelled Ọṣun
"...leaves us in the dark with the misperception that our ancestors were superstitious, illogical and insane"
This statement stuck with me. Even though I think the information is interesting and compelling. It's amazing how prevalent six fingers are in history.
But it's too tempting to compare that to people now and laugh. Not to be flippant, but I can't think anything else but how foolish people can be. Wars over religion could make future people's believe we were ALL devout, and our gods were real. There are SO many churches, and religion is sprinkled over much of our public lives. Swearing oaths on a bible comes to mind. From the outside looking in, we in the USA could be seen as true believers. So, do we have secret knowledge? Or pervasive delusions?
Ancient people might not have been any different than people now, and honestly, religion always seems to seek control over people. Theocracy doesn't have a good reputation, but not because it hasn't been tried enough times and religious extremists always seem to want to harm others. Much of Europe was ruled by monarchy that claimed religious authority.
Nope. Believing the ancients weren't stupid only works if you don't believe people are stupid now. And...well I'm from the Bible belt Midwest that's so red and the people so white...I can't believe people can't be stupid in large groups. Honestly, there's KKK groups in my county, they argue about transgender bathrooms in my school system, and don't get me started about incidents like Ferguson. Because that's just up the highway, and that kid was walking to his grandma's house, starting college in two days, and should not be dead. Sorry, I just had to say that.
Nope. People can believe wildly stupid things. And I don't think you have to believe ancient people were illogical, insane or superstitious to believe their authorities and anyone seeking to achieve power acted that way.
Very interesting article, and not giving ancient people any credit for acting more knowledgeable doesn't detract from how amazing all the artifacts and stories are from all over the world. Wow. Six fingered people, who'd have thought.
Ḏḥwty surely this fish-tailed culture bringing goddess is a form of Oannes? Osun/Oshun = O-un-s?
"The Sword in the Stone first appears in Robert de Boron’s Merlin, in which Arthur pulls out the sword that was set by the wizard in an anvil (which was changed by later writers into a stone)."
I'm a blacksmith and well-versed in the history and lore of forging iron and steel. Anciently, many anvils were actually made of stone.
Hi Ingvar, you cannot upload article to the website only admins have the ability to do so. If you would like to write for ancient origins please contact April Holloway ([email protected])
The Plimpton 322 appears to be a very significant find with potential uses for our modern day society. A civilization which, not only created mathematics using a Base 60 system, but allowed them to achieve more accurate trigonometric results than todays Base 10 system is astounding. The contribution to better accuracy in surveying and enhanced computer graphics may be only the most obvious of the fields which can see benefits from a system with greater accuracy than is currently available.
One can only wonder what types of problems they were able to solve with this ancient, but clearly superior system of mathematics?
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