I count 12 sources listed. Why can't the rest of you see them? Plus, if something is common knowledge, note I didn't say Biblical, you don't have to source it. I also see no quotes. No, the article isn't a dry dissertation with a reference every two words, but it's a popular internet site, not a dissertation review site (which I regularly read too and find stuff even more out there than this).
Colombus discovered that he was lost, he thought he was someplace else. he also didn't discover a darned thing, all of the locals knew all about North America and where they lived. the locals did give Colombus a real good education about where the hell he was and what was going on, where to find food and what the heck to eat.
Nowhere in the article it says that wine-making area has been excavated. They just might be using containers that stored already bought or traded wine from elsewhere. So what is the proof that they made these wines themselves. Hard to believe...infact seems impossible that these areas were so developed that they could cultivate grapes and make wine themselves. That would have required patience.
The authors “legwork” consists entirely of conjectures and suppositions. I see no evidence of “ multiple pieces of data in multiple translations”. What I do see is the transference of her pc prejudices onto a time period that she “did not personally live through”. Sorry, but this is absolutely mind-boggling .
Interesting Article... just wanted to correct the fact that Grenoble is not in Switzerland. = )
("They used advanced synchrotron radiation based X-ray microscopy equipment at the European Synchrotron Radiation Facility in Grenoble, Switzerland to make their find.")
Grenoble is in France, or perhaps the tests were done in Geneva Switzerland
April they mocked those who queried the Clovis paradigm and refused to dig below below the Clovis horizon because of course nothing was to be found. When people started reporting the human-like intelligence of crows I remember one particular professor insisting Aesop's fable about the crow dropping pebbles in a jar to raise the level of water was causing all the confusion because it was actually only about people and nothing in the least to do with crows.
The great cosmic joke of it all comes of course when the mockers and deniers suddenly say "Oh but we knew that all along!"
Personally I think 'shamans' all over the world've known and remained in touch with each other right across the world from the dawn of time but even 'ordinary' people must've been aware there were other unknown lands simply because season after season they'd see birds migrating to and from SOMEWHERE and on occasions'd've caught sight of mysterious lost birds they'd never seen before or indeed'd never see again thus begging the question where the hell they came from or indeed went to. Among the Chinese I suggest were people sufficiently curious enough to sail in the direction such birds were seen leaving for..
The purpose of most of the scientific community is to preserve the status quo against all challengers. The status quo profits from the way things are, maintains power because of the way things are, is respected because of their role in the discovery of the way things are to be believed. Of course any challenge to that would be met with condemnation and ridicule. No different from Darwin, Galileo, or others who threatened the powers that be and their control over the minds of the blind followers. This probability seems as valid that those who put forth evidence of discovery of the N. American continent by folks from folks in extreme northern Europe or even by the Templars centuries earlier (that fact that the Mi'kmaq tribe of the Nova Scotia region's flag is nearly identical to the Templar battle flag for instance). Sorry, Columbus just gets all the glory while likely deserving none of it.
Hey, you all do understand that the Bible isn't really a critical source of data, right? It's extremely prejudiced towards one set of people and it's been shuffled and rewritten by the biggest propaganda agency in the world, the Catholic Church (which was founded on Roman religions). Do your own legwork if you don't like what an author says. Read multiple pieces of data in multiple translations from a time period if you didn't personally live through it.
As she "contends", supposes and speculates with an air of certainty about things, while citing no sources or documentary evidence, I fully expect her to shortly put the blame on those all pervasive, modern day, useful villains, the Russians.
The featured image* shows -- among other things -- what must be one of the first wrist-watches in history. On the right arm of the sun god. It's a sundial.
"According to the simulation, the sun would have appeared on top of the obelisk "
Considering certain laws of nature, the sun would probably have appeared on top of the obelisk every single day of the year. However, the shadow from the obelisk might probably not have hit the centre of the facade of the Ara Pacis every day of the year.
I have an additional theory as to why so many god/goddess depictions are also missing the nose, eyes or face completely. Most blatantly this can be seen in the temple of Hathor in Dendera. All but 1 untouched face of Hathor out of hundreds can still be found. Erosion, humilation, vandalisme or racial issues can be discarded easily. Erosion does not happen inside a temple to that degree, humiliation does not apply to a goddess, vandalisme does not explain the amount of damage (they had to build scaffolding and have spent years and years to destroy this temples depictions systematically). Racial motives are also highly unlikely the Egyptian gods were to me a bit androgynes but I could not for the life of me pin them to 1 race. However the structural controlled damage inflicted must have been done according to a plan and meticulously carried out over an extended period of time. My opinion is that Kopts and later Islamic people new the pagans worshipped these gods and believed they can be imbued with power. Offerings to statues were a highly sophisticated sytem of training the mind to attune more to a specific emanation of the one god represented by the statue. Perhaps the later religions feared this cult in the same sense medieval clergy feared witches? Or perhaps they did ot want the cult to continue and as log as the gods faces were visible they were considered functional and people would continue to do so? They most likely also did not want to destroy the magnificent building but reuse them to their own purposes (like the Luxor temple for example). To me this is not unlike christians chopping down holy oaks and then building their shrines and churches there. The people will still showe up and now deprived of its former rgalia they could instill new ones and flock the people to their cause.
Facial reconstructions from skulls is complete rubbish. What makes is unique is not the bone structure as most skulls from say a European are indistinguishable. But noses, lips, ear, hair, eyes, eyelids, cheek density etc etc etc are not portrayed by a skull. If a real test was made where a skull from a person was presented, where we already knew who the person was and what they looked like from a photograph, I bet $100k the facial artist would not even be close. When I get the publicity down the track, I'll make that challenge to the worlds best. The catch will be they have to pay me $100k if they don;t get it right. Could be a great way to make extra dosh.
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Great research keep up the good work
I count 12 sources listed. Why can't the rest of you see them? Plus, if something is common knowledge, note I didn't say Biblical, you don't have to source it. I also see no quotes. No, the article isn't a dry dissertation with a reference every two words, but it's a popular internet site, not a dissertation review site (which I regularly read too and find stuff even more out there than this).
Colombus discovered that he was lost, he thought he was someplace else. he also didn't discover a darned thing, all of the locals knew all about North America and where they lived. the locals did give Colombus a real good education about where the hell he was and what was going on, where to find food and what the heck to eat.
Nowhere in the article it says that wine-making area has been excavated. They just might be using containers that stored already bought or traded wine from elsewhere. So what is the proof that they made these wines themselves. Hard to believe...infact seems impossible that these areas were so developed that they could cultivate grapes and make wine themselves. That would have required patience.
The authors “legwork” consists entirely of conjectures and suppositions. I see no evidence of “ multiple pieces of data in multiple translations”. What I do see is the transference of her pc prejudices onto a time period that she “did not personally live through”. Sorry, but this is absolutely mind-boggling .
Interesting Article... just wanted to correct the fact that Grenoble is not in Switzerland. = )
("They used advanced synchrotron radiation based X-ray microscopy equipment at the European Synchrotron Radiation Facility in Grenoble, Switzerland to make their find.")
Grenoble is in France, or perhaps the tests were done in Geneva Switzerland
Regards
Larry
April they mocked those who queried the Clovis paradigm and refused to dig below below the Clovis horizon because of course nothing was to be found. When people started reporting the human-like intelligence of crows I remember one particular professor insisting Aesop's fable about the crow dropping pebbles in a jar to raise the level of water was causing all the confusion because it was actually only about people and nothing in the least to do with crows.
The great cosmic joke of it all comes of course when the mockers and deniers suddenly say "Oh but we knew that all along!"
Personally I think 'shamans' all over the world've known and remained in touch with each other right across the world from the dawn of time but even 'ordinary' people must've been aware there were other unknown lands simply because season after season they'd see birds migrating to and from SOMEWHERE and on occasions'd've caught sight of mysterious lost birds they'd never seen before or indeed'd never see again thus begging the question where the hell they came from or indeed went to. Among the Chinese I suggest were people sufficiently curious enough to sail in the direction such birds were seen leaving for..
The purpose of most of the scientific community is to preserve the status quo against all challengers. The status quo profits from the way things are, maintains power because of the way things are, is respected because of their role in the discovery of the way things are to be believed. Of course any challenge to that would be met with condemnation and ridicule. No different from Darwin, Galileo, or others who threatened the powers that be and their control over the minds of the blind followers. This probability seems as valid that those who put forth evidence of discovery of the N. American continent by folks from folks in extreme northern Europe or even by the Templars centuries earlier (that fact that the Mi'kmaq tribe of the Nova Scotia region's flag is nearly identical to the Templar battle flag for instance). Sorry, Columbus just gets all the glory while likely deserving none of it.
Hey, you all do understand that the Bible isn't really a critical source of data, right? It's extremely prejudiced towards one set of people and it's been shuffled and rewritten by the biggest propaganda agency in the world, the Catholic Church (which was founded on Roman religions). Do your own legwork if you don't like what an author says. Read multiple pieces of data in multiple translations from a time period if you didn't personally live through it.
Correction: Westerners love labeling non white peoples as "prehistoric".
I love when westerners label historical non white people "prehistoric".
I am really proud of my hometown, had a really great culture !
Bravo
BTW I would have expected better writing and better scholarship from this site. Quite a let down and very disappointing.
As she "contends", supposes and speculates with an air of certainty about things, while citing no sources or documentary evidence, I fully expect her to shortly put the blame on those all pervasive, modern day, useful villains, the Russians.
The featured image* shows -- among other things -- what must be one of the first wrist-watches in history. On the right arm of the sun god. It's a sundial.
*(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enki#mediaviewer/File:Chaos_Monster_and_Sun...)
This is surely an error:
"According to the simulation, the sun would have appeared on top of the obelisk "
Considering certain laws of nature, the sun would probably have appeared on top of the obelisk every single day of the year. However, the shadow from the obelisk might probably not have hit the centre of the facade of the Ara Pacis every day of the year.
The Alchemy Key wrote by Stuart Nettleton in 1998 states "rat-like 'mus' common ancestor of humans and mice. Saying this is new is a bit odd.
I have an additional theory as to why so many god/goddess depictions are also missing the nose, eyes or face completely. Most blatantly this can be seen in the temple of Hathor in Dendera. All but 1 untouched face of Hathor out of hundreds can still be found. Erosion, humilation, vandalisme or racial issues can be discarded easily. Erosion does not happen inside a temple to that degree, humiliation does not apply to a goddess, vandalisme does not explain the amount of damage (they had to build scaffolding and have spent years and years to destroy this temples depictions systematically). Racial motives are also highly unlikely the Egyptian gods were to me a bit androgynes but I could not for the life of me pin them to 1 race. However the structural controlled damage inflicted must have been done according to a plan and meticulously carried out over an extended period of time. My opinion is that Kopts and later Islamic people new the pagans worshipped these gods and believed they can be imbued with power. Offerings to statues were a highly sophisticated sytem of training the mind to attune more to a specific emanation of the one god represented by the statue. Perhaps the later religions feared this cult in the same sense medieval clergy feared witches? Or perhaps they did ot want the cult to continue and as log as the gods faces were visible they were considered functional and people would continue to do so? They most likely also did not want to destroy the magnificent building but reuse them to their own purposes (like the Luxor temple for example). To me this is not unlike christians chopping down holy oaks and then building their shrines and churches there. The people will still showe up and now deprived of its former rgalia they could instill new ones and flock the people to their cause.
Fact,maja is not bitter but sour
Facial reconstructions from skulls is complete rubbish. What makes is unique is not the bone structure as most skulls from say a European are indistinguishable. But noses, lips, ear, hair, eyes, eyelids, cheek density etc etc etc are not portrayed by a skull. If a real test was made where a skull from a person was presented, where we already knew who the person was and what they looked like from a photograph, I bet $100k the facial artist would not even be close. When I get the publicity down the track, I'll make that challenge to the worlds best. The catch will be they have to pay me $100k if they don;t get it right. Could be a great way to make extra dosh.
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