There never was one. As Neal Adams shows, Pangea, as currently hypothesized, would have been a chain of islands becase, having all the land on one side of a larger planet would have affected the balance, shifting its center of rotation, and most of that land under the sea. Simultaneously, it would have pushed a fair amount of ocean floor above the water-line on the other side of the earth, so you’d have two chains of islands on opposite sides of the earth, neither of which has ever been found to have occurred.
Jimmy likes to promote this idea, and he’s gained a number of followers, but it simply can’t be. The Eye of the Sahara is a point of contact with a Birkeland current. The counterrotating, concentric rings are plainly visible. And it’s not the only one found so far. The others even exhibit the lifting such discharges frequently cause. For an example of how Birkeland currents cause such effects, just look at Jupiter, the most beautiful example there is. The current enters the planet from above, and exits from beneath. Its counterrotating, concenctic layers are what drives the alternating bands in Jupiter’s atmosphere. And it’s not the only example. Look closely at earth’s atmospheric wind patterns, and you see the same effect at work.
When the current branches, which happens, for example, in solar prominences, but also on the earth, those electric currents impact the earth outside their usual confinement at the poles. This is what causes hurricanes. Look up weather patterns, and you will see that hurricanes always come in pairs. The one that actually developes into a storm is the negative end of the loop. Just as with solar prominences and sun spots, the negative end is tighter and more focused. The positive end is less focused. Thus, on earth, the positive end of the current loop only ever becomes a generalized depression, sometimes too dispersed to even notice, but it’s there.
So, the eye of the Sahara, like its siblings, is a point where the current loop became so intense, in a far distant past of earth’s history, that the lightning became one, long, sustained bolt of electricity which bored its way into solid rock, melting and stirring it at the focal point. Look closely at the eye, and you will also see the telltale signs of the electrical effects spreading out in circles as the loop snapped and collapsed. You see this in solar prominences, too, but there are no lasting effects on the surface of the sun. You can only see those on the earth (Grand Canyon) and Mars (Valles Marinares). See the twists at their ends? Classic electrical effects.
The change that happen to Sahara to make it a desert would fit the bill
for the area of The Eye of Sahara to have been surrounded by water thus an Island.
As more scientific investigation into the past cities of the Sahara area comes forth, this area appears to fit the bill so to speak. Time, location, etc. match.
It is obvious that Atlantis is real. During the ice age, most of the sea bottom around continents was dry land. Above Scandinavia, Canada and Siberia, there was about 3 km of ice. When the ice melted away some 10000 years ago the sea level raised some 100-200 meters, and the inhabited land became sea bottom. The time fits well with that given by Plato. So Atlantis did not sink into the sea, but the sea raised to swallow Atlantis. It looks like this event is the same as that with Noah. Somewhere outside the coast of Europe or north Africa, Atlantis still is on the bottom wating to be discovered.
The resistance to ideas, and more especially evidence like in this article is the tendency of humans to not being able to accept that everything could be destroyed in a few days, with few or no survivors, and the fact that it means nothing in the big history of the world. As to the duration of such an event and its impact, consider that many of the mammoths frequently discovered in Siberia are well preserved, with flesh intact, a condition that requires fairly quick freezing.
Catastrophism is something humans have always naturally feared; all the theories of uniformitarianism and gradualism were developed in just the last few hundred years. Before that, and even now, creationism was and is presented as a viable option – the belief that gods made humans, and the world, virtually overnight.
Things can happen virtually overnight, and historically the heavens have been associated with the gods, so in a sense there is some sort of truth to theories of gods … and anthromorphism was a feature of early religions.
So, yes, they were literall pillars. But, what Dave, et al, miss is that there were TWO pillars, hence the plural. There was another one off our south pole, or what was once our south pole, hence the dual pillars before the Hebrew temple, Jachin and Boaz. Jachin was the silver pillar to the south, and Boaz was the gold pillar in the north. Atop each of these pillars once stood planets, without which there would have been no pillars: Jupiter in the south and Saturn in the north. Hence the pillars of Hercules at Gibraltar, their terrestrial ‘interpretation’. And it wasn’t a bad interpretation either, as, prior to the flood, there had been a ‘navigable’ river, but just a river, back then. After the flood, and during the division of the lands, the still-forming seas were a roiling mass of mud and gravel.
And, yes, there had actually been a ‘dragon’ there, of sorts. See Andrew Hall’s excellent videos on how the electrical discharges which once emanated only from the heavens (Zeus’ thunderbolts) later transferred to the earth’s surface as it struggled to achieve equilibrium in its new environment. This is also, by the way, where Moses’ burning bush comes from, as well as the generally electrified environment that would turn the highly capacitative ark of the covenant into such a fierce weapon, and why it electocuted one poor soul ignorant enough to touch the thing while standing in running water.
It’s also how/why Elijah’s electrically conductive offering worked when the insulated offering of the priests of Ba’Al failed.
With recent advanced geological studies, the Expanding Earth theory, validates that Earth has been a far smaller planet than its current volume, and continuing growth of volume.
What could have been a far smaller earth in times past, could have dramatically happened during the time of the biblical flood ~1987 BCE, when the Earth captured the rogue Moon. Such massive tidal forces in geology could have ripped open the continents and their movements, so that the Americas, Asia/India, Antarctic, and the Old World would have separated. What is seen and dated on the seafloor geo-magnetic signature is only what happened back then, not what is part of the upper lithosphere. One cannot say that the small growth of the mid-oceanic ridges created the entire growing earth from time past. We have unknown portions under the continents and those regions of burial and recycling of the tectonic plates that we truly do not know the full extent of plate tectonics, … other than their frozen geo-magnetic signatures and reverse polar magnetism recorded in the oceanic bedrock.
There is every option that the Americas, readily seen as fitting into the European and African coastlines, could have been separated and moved west, … such as the mentions that Atlantis (appeared to) sink into the seas, when it actually was vastly briken up and moved westward away from the Old World continent, beyond the visible oceanic horizon, and appears to disappear and sink into the ocean.
The real ancient Pangaea was the Americas as the western Atlantis portion of the singular planetary continent, while the intact Old World and that of Asia/India was the eastern Lemurian portion.
With expanding earth theory, the earth continues to grow, and in previous times the asthenosphere plates (lower regions of hard rock, seabeds, and molten magma) dislocate from the upper regions of all frozen rock lithosphere and continental cratons. These continental cratons then have any movement available to them to move apart – separate from plate tectonics, mid-oceanic seafloor ridge spreading.
When you put all this together as a singular planetary continent, on a far smaller earth volume, it is far easier for continental drift to happen apart from current plate tectonic movements. Put the Americas back up against Europe and Africa, and such lands west of the Gibraltar Strait would be the Central Americas of Mexico, … and that of Atlantis, Adam Land of Mexico and Mexico City.
(1) Atlantis is a Grecian name. Atlant – i – s. I = masculine, S = singular. If is was female it would be E. If it was plural it would be A. So for English speaking Atlant is the name. it becomes readily apparent that At – Land and Adam Land is the name of this place.
(2) It has been recently understood that in the days of the biblical dispersion of the Noahics (and other unmentioned survivors of the biblical flood), that “in the days of Peleg and Joktan the peoples were dispersed by the Elohim around the world.” The Peleg tribe was moved out of its location, while the Joktan tribe remained. Listen to the name Joktan = Yucatan and Central America of the Americas. The Joktanites remained in the Americas, while the Pelegites were moved into the European area.
(3) It is said in other Greek writings, that Plato encountered an Egyptian temple priest (most likely an Elohim descendant) and that Plato gave his genealogical descendancy for some generations. This would be anything from 50-100-200 years of ancestry. The temple priest gave his own ancestry back some 32 generations. This would be 640-800 years of ancestry.
(4) The biblical Flood (by biblical dating) is ~1987 BCE. It was the days of Peleg and Joktan, that ~150 years after the Flood, ~1837 BCE that the peoples were scattered. Plato lived 420s-340s BCE, just before the rise of the Alexandrian empire’s existence. This temple priest would then be talking about his ancestors living back into the times of the 1150s-1000s BCE.
(5) With knowledge of Greek historian Manetho (Amenhotep) he mentions that a portion of the Israelites, after they came into Egypt, some departed and created the proto-nations of the Greeks and Trojans. This was the Zara-ite branch of the Judaics. This happened, as Manetho says, some 150 years before the Exodus. The Exodus, now confirmed by royal pharaonic genealogies and the Black Obelisk, happened in 1207/1206 BCE (the same time as the multiple Venus flybys of Velikovsky). These Judaic Greeks and Trojans would have departed the Nile Delta to the Aegean island ~1350s BCE.
(6) Since the Exodus date is now known, then the biblical prophecy of YHWH to Abraham can be known – and more. The Israelites were in the Petra region of Idumea for 40 years before establishing the conquest and occupation of Canaan 1167-1166 BCE. 400 years to that gives the date, time, and age of Abraham. Abraham was 100 years old when this prophecy was made. This gives the date of 1567/1566 BCE. Abraham was born in 1667/1666 BCE.
(7) It is now known geologically that Thera exploded in 1620 BCE. A massive migration of peoples from Europe, the islands, and around the Mediterranean shorelines (experiencing massive tsunamis) fled as refugees into the Mideast (Haran-Syria, Canaan, and the Nile Delta of Kmet Egypt). It is the correct biblical timeline and ancestry of these Hebrews that they as the Habiru/Hapiru, mentioned alongside the Sea Peoples, and the Hyksos et al came into these regions, and established a kingdom in the Nile Delta – that was not part of the native Egyptian pharaonic peoples in tht 1620- 1295,1292 BCE period.
(8) IF … there has been a misunderstanding that the pillars of Hercules/Heracles (a Grecian/Roman god) is at the Gibraltar Strait. With the establishment that these proto-Grecians and proto-Romans were from these Judaic Israelites in that 1350s BCE period, then it becomes all the more real that the real Dardanelles Strait should be this/these Greek and Roman geology. And Thera is to the West of the Dardanelles. This is a more-valid proof that Atlant, Adam land could have been at Thera and thereabouts.
(9) Yet, this poses a problem. At land, Adam land, was a pre-Flood civilization. For someone to know that Europe was Atlantis, and that the Peleg-ites were re-distributed back onto those soils, while the Joktanites remained in the Americas appears strange.
(10) IF – one could truly state that the pillars of Hercules/Heracles were the Gibraltar Strait, then there is NO geological island or such extensive landform other than the Americas in which Atland could be. Atland or Adam land could only be in the Americas (Central America).
(11) Plato mentions that Atland and its curvilinear island complex with radiating spokes had to be in some larger context of a land, not oceanic region. If one looks at an Arthur C Clarke concentric ringed and spoked space station (“mother ship”) one readily sees that there was at some time in the past a landed mother ship in what could have only have been soft soil, marsh, swamp, and that such diggings under and around the mother ship’s framework would create this Platonic architecture of Atland. There are no such massive swamps and marsh anywhere in the Old World Europe and Mediterranean that could accomplish this feat.
(12) There is more of the sons of Zara, it that they are listed as Dara, Ethan, Heman, Chalchol, and Zimri. And this becomes explosively relevant. Dara or Thor and later Darius names are those of the Germanic peoples. Ethan or Odin are those of the Scandinavian peoples. Heman took massive itme to find, and it all goes back to the pre-Flood and post-Flood civilizations of the Minoans. Heman or which the (He)man – Minos – Minoans take their name are these post-Flood Linear B Israelite peoples. Heman is King Minos, or Egyptian Amen(hotep). Linear A peoples were the pre-Flood peoples. Linear B is the overlaid Israelite language put onto the older Linear A language. Chalchol also took long to discover – and its eye-opening context. Chalchol is the Greek-Mayan Kulkul Khan (Chalchol the Great). Greek sailing had transoceanic routes in those 1300s BCE and later times. There were Greek and Mayan (the Magi) contacts between the Old and New Worlds (actually vice versa as the Old World Europe was the New World, and the New World was the Old World Americas in the post-Flood times). Zimri are those other tribes of the Eastern European areas as the Cimmerians, Gomers, some portions of eastern Germans (Gomerans), and later (ancient British) Welsh, Scottish, and Irish Cymry,
(13) Such contacts between Greece (and Rome) and the Americas would have had Atland … Adam land as the real Old World, where Noah (not in a wooden barge Ark, but an actual mothership Ark) ascended above all the planetary events of the Flood (when the Moon was captured, and disrupted the upper heavens waters in the stratosphere-troposphere region, and it all came back down). Other such advanced Elohim, and such sons of Adam with the Seth-ites and the Cain-ites, also rose in other UFOs, riding out the planetary storm. The said black crow and the white dove were actually technological drones send back down onto the planet and discovering such dry lands that could be re-landed at. Such a mother ship, and Atland of Adam land, and Plato’s writing down of the Egyptian temple priests higher historical knowledge would be that land of the Americas. The original Adam land of Atlantis would have been in the Americas, and truly west of the Gibraltar Strait and the pillars of Hercules. This also fits with valid geological formations between these continental regions.
(14) It was the group of 1500s CE Aztecs (Az-tecs) who were a split off branch of earlier Mayans (Maya, Magoi, Magi) who wandered in prophecy about a swamp land with a central island, cactus, and an eagle eating a snake. They found the ancient legendary site. A swampy place with a central island, and such other surrounding islands and radial canals. They founded the Aztec empire at that spot, that was the same location and geography mentioned by the Egyptian temple priest in the 340s BCE. These Aztecs were also known by their later Greek naming as the Sadduccees, again -ee-s Sadduccs, or Hebrew Sadoks, Tzaddoks, … Azt – doks … Az – tecs. All of these Maya-Magi and Sadduccee-Aztec were from the Americas and resident in the location of the birth of Jesus. There was Old and New World sailings and transoceanic contacts from the post-Flood times down to the Pharaonic Fleet, that was given in dowry to King-Emperor Solomon and his Egyptian pharoah daughter princess wife, that eventually came down to the Knights Templars.
(15) Atlantis, Atland, Adam land … is in the Americas, … and with other massive equatorial geology of volcanic events (Mexico is a veritable region of explosive volcanoes, just like the equatorial Minoan kingdom of Knossos nearby Thera. Such massive shakings, geological disruptions, liquifaction and sinking of (then) constructed buildings .., that the Platonic descriptions of the fall and inundation of Atlantis happened by geological, tectonic Ring of Fire, and volcanic explosions in the Americas.
(16) The question arises of when the fall of Atlantis happened. Thera happened in 1620 BCE. And the real history of linguistics is that these fleeing people of Europe into the Mideast was the real start of the Aryan-Indo language. It is that period of Terah and his family escaping from Europe … Europe of the Celts … (correct location of the) Ur of the Chaldees … that the Hebrews and Aryans were from Europe into the Mideast … other branches continued into India (Indu land). It is only in the returns of many of the Abrahamic sons of Keturah into India (the Brahmins) who partially came back in the time of Moses and the Nubians who welcomed them, … and then those tribes of scattered Christians who went into India (Apostle Thomas christians) and China (Nestorian christians) … that a massive invasion of China and India by the “Wu Hei” happened, and you have massive populations of hybrid bloodlines coming back into the Mideast (as the real dark-skinned Arabs, Hebrew erebs, dark-skinned people) and invading Russia, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, Western Europe and North Africa. All of these groups are now found to have come from these bloodlines of former Mideast-Chinese, Mideast-Indan, and Mideast-Persian ancestries. Thusly, modern linguistics of Indo-Aryan linguistics only point to this time period of 400s-600s when these people came into Europe, when in truth the original ancient language came out of Europe into the Mideast and into Asia, and then came back round again).
The real Atlantis should be seen as the Aztec location that became Mexico City, the same location mentioned by the Egyptian temple priest and Plato’s writings, the original departure and relanding of Noah’s UFO mothership. The land area of the mountains of Ararat are not in Turkey/Anatolia, but in the mountains of Mexico, with such ancient Hebrew words that translate into Aztec and Maya language of today.
Atlantis was in the Americas, and that of Mexico and Central America, and its mothership capitol at Mexico City.
There was an academic study released in the past few years that showed evidence a piece of Atlantis broke off and literally floated south to merge with Antarctica. Some advanced tools have been found in the defrosting ice (due to climate change), tools that are “out of place” for the eras involved. If I can track down the link to the study, I’ll share it here.
The ancients were very fond of parelleling terrestrial events to celestial events, and those celestial events were sometimes far more ancient than the terrestrial events being fitted to them.
For example the city Schliemann found was Troy, … and it wasn’t. The Troy Homer told of was a celestial story, a ‘solar myth’ … but that myth was retold by Homer in terms of the city Schliemann found.
I know that seems crazy, but that’s how the ancients saw things, hence Herodotus’ assertion that Egypt was a ‘reflection’ of heaven. And the heaven he was referring to was a literal configuration of the heavens as they once appeared, with a celestial realm/planet up above, connected to the earthly realm/planet below by a river which was also paralleled with the Nile. Thus, as above, so below.
Now, about Atlantis…
Atlantis is literally Saturn. And not just Saturn, but also the rest of the planets in the ‘Polar Configuration’, albeit in a phase of its evolution reflected in the Babylonion ‘map of the world’. That map is also a parellel between above and below. Those ‘rays’ around the sun/earth? Those are celestial pyramids/mountain, atop each of which was a planet, hence the incomprehensible names and descriptions: They’re simply NOT terrestrial. And, yet, there are terrestrial places picture, but they are pictured strangely. This is because they are being fitted to their celestial body ‘counterparts’.
So, when the original celestial arrangement broke up, and the ‘war in heaven’ commenced, Cronus/Chronos/Saturn appeared to eat his children, and Zeus/Jupiter was born, this was told as the ‘lands’ (planets) being divided. There was an explosion of light, and water, and other elements from the nova that erupted from Saturn. And all this landed on the earth as water, salt, sand, gravel, and more. This is where the Sampo comes from in the Kalevala. Saturn is the Sampo, the cornucopia, the governor of time, the father of lights (because the rest of the universe had been obscured by the perpetural daylight that Saturn gave the earth during the Golden Age, just as our current [fifth] sun now obscures the universe half the day).
THEN … the earth began to expand, draining the newly acquired salt waters into the ocean basins. The magnetic and electric fields of the earth also decoupled from Saturn’s, completely changing our environment. Thus the flood on the earth, and the ensuing breaking up of its crust was seen as a direct parallel (and, in fact, they were related) of the celestial breakup and flood (Saturn’s rings) (which, by the way, have an oxygen atmosphere). The rings of Saturn are also where the description of Atlantis’ rings of land and sea come from.
And, by the way, it was Saturn’s north pole, not its south pole, which once faced the earth. This is why Socrates described the earth as looking like one of those balls made of 12 pieces of leather. He was describing something like a soccer ball, which was had even back then. And he was describing it thus because of Saturn’s hexagonal black spot. AND … the ‘sun’ traditionally being perceived as a mirror, it was believed to reflect the earth, much as Egypt was a reflection of heaven. And, if Saturn had that big, black, hexagonal patch, then, so, too, did the earth.
And this is where ALL the Saturnian black cubes come from: Tefellin, the Kaaba, etc.
It’s also, by the way, where all the fish symbology comes from. Dagon is Saturn. In the Indus Valley script, the fish was originally Saturn, but also came to mean star (meen), Venus, comet, etc., all using a fish symbol. And that was because its moons were seen to swim like fish in the river that ran around it, giving life to the ‘fish’. These are the living waters, the water of life, so powerful that, according to the ancients, they could bring life to even a roasted fish.
So, Atlantis was/is both the ancient arrangement of the heavens AND the entire earth itself.
I bet we should look for additional alternatives; Amazon jungle hides many mysteries, one of them might as well be connected to this ancient legend of a lost civilization and its unknown territory
When I was child I read books on Dinos that were published before the confirmed Asteriod impact extinction. As I remember it the Dinosaur extinction was described as a gradual process; at least in the books that read. Now I’m wondering how evolution could have been differnent had not the asteriod collision happened. You could assume that mammels would be dominate today but we may have some direct Dinos desendants living on the fringes along with the other of todays reptiles, much smaller of course. Pterosaurs were losing out to the dino-cousins the Birds. Would we still have some desendants of the prehistoric ocean-reptiles? Water Under the Bridge, I guess.
The monster Troll Grendel an his mother are described as Giant's as well in some Beowulf stories. My main question would be how tall Beowulf could have been.
There is an a very Ancient Animilin Encyclopedia that shares descriptions of various Dragon's that are mentioned throughout Europe and Asia witnessed by countless people.
A majority of witnesses were Farmer's they'd come out of their farm house an a dragon would be eating there harvest. About 900 A.D. in Britannia as it once was identified so Farmer killed the Dragon it was eating his harvest.
Much of Farmers and Fishermen that routinely saw these Dragon's did describe them with hard pierced armor reptilian scaly skin. Luckily some people who were trained as Blacksmith it took javelins, spears, lances, swords to kill these creature.
I realize at once that I was not born in 900 A.D. However, all of those witnesses to seeing Dragon's couldn't have been that delusional an I don't feel they were mistaken about Dragon's.
This is my general feeling and thoughts on the Subject of Beowulf unless I think of something to share. Until next time Everyone, Goodbye!
The clue in the alignment of this pyramid is 23 degrees. This represents the approximate tilt of planet earth. As such, the Kukulcan pyramid is aligned directly to the winter and summer solstices. Nothing to do with the north cardinal point and ancient star locations. This can easily be checked with Google Earth. This is not a coincidence and shows that the winter solstice sunrise and summer solstice sunset – 6 months apart, were special times for these ancient sky or sun watchers. Also, the same orientation may be found in the head of the Serpent Mound in Ohio.
Its interesting to note that Chichen Itza also has a Serpent whose shadow becomes apparent at the equinoxes. So two serpents and two similar alignments. Cultural connections? The Pyramid of Palenque also orients to the solstices.
In general mesoamerican pyramids either align to the solstices or the cross-quarter days, i.e the 1st May sunset and 2nd February sunrise. Examples include Teotihuacan, Tikal, Kinich Kak Moo, Teotenango and Caracol. The common factor seems to be sunworshipping with some cultures favouring the solstices while others the cross-quarter days.
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I have good reason to believe Atlantis existed in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Ignatius Donnelly did some good work, and the geology makes sense.
There never was one. As Neal Adams shows, Pangea, as currently hypothesized, would have been a chain of islands becase, having all the land on one side of a larger planet would have affected the balance, shifting its center of rotation, and most of that land under the sea. Simultaneously, it would have pushed a fair amount of ocean floor above the water-line on the other side of the earth, so you’d have two chains of islands on opposite sides of the earth, neither of which has ever been found to have occurred.
Jimmy likes to promote this idea, and he’s gained a number of followers, but it simply can’t be. The Eye of the Sahara is a point of contact with a Birkeland current. The counterrotating, concentric rings are plainly visible. And it’s not the only one found so far. The others even exhibit the lifting such discharges frequently cause. For an example of how Birkeland currents cause such effects, just look at Jupiter, the most beautiful example there is. The current enters the planet from above, and exits from beneath. Its counterrotating, concenctic layers are what drives the alternating bands in Jupiter’s atmosphere. And it’s not the only example. Look closely at earth’s atmospheric wind patterns, and you see the same effect at work.
When the current branches, which happens, for example, in solar prominences, but also on the earth, those electric currents impact the earth outside their usual confinement at the poles. This is what causes hurricanes. Look up weather patterns, and you will see that hurricanes always come in pairs. The one that actually developes into a storm is the negative end of the loop. Just as with solar prominences and sun spots, the negative end is tighter and more focused. The positive end is less focused. Thus, on earth, the positive end of the current loop only ever becomes a generalized depression, sometimes too dispersed to even notice, but it’s there.
So, the eye of the Sahara, like its siblings, is a point where the current loop became so intense, in a far distant past of earth’s history, that the lightning became one, long, sustained bolt of electricity which bored its way into solid rock, melting and stirring it at the focal point. Look closely at the eye, and you will also see the telltale signs of the electrical effects spreading out in circles as the loop snapped and collapsed. You see this in solar prominences, too, but there are no lasting effects on the surface of the sun. You can only see those on the earth (Grand Canyon) and Mars (Valles Marinares). See the twists at their ends? Classic electrical effects.
The change that happen to Sahara to make it a desert would fit the bill
for the area of The Eye of Sahara to have been surrounded by water thus an Island.
As more scientific investigation into the past cities of the Sahara area comes forth, this area appears to fit the bill so to speak. Time, location, etc. match.
It is obvious that Atlantis is real. During the ice age, most of the sea bottom around continents was dry land. Above Scandinavia, Canada and Siberia, there was about 3 km of ice. When the ice melted away some 10000 years ago the sea level raised some 100-200 meters, and the inhabited land became sea bottom. The time fits well with that given by Plato. So Atlantis did not sink into the sea, but the sea raised to swallow Atlantis. It looks like this event is the same as that with Noah. Somewhere outside the coast of Europe or north Africa, Atlantis still is on the bottom wating to be discovered.
The resistance to ideas, and more especially evidence like in this article is the tendency of humans to not being able to accept that everything could be destroyed in a few days, with few or no survivors, and the fact that it means nothing in the big history of the world. As to the duration of such an event and its impact, consider that many of the mammoths frequently discovered in Siberia are well preserved, with flesh intact, a condition that requires fairly quick freezing.
Catastrophism is something humans have always naturally feared; all the theories of uniformitarianism and gradualism were developed in just the last few hundred years. Before that, and even now, creationism was and is presented as a viable option – the belief that gods made humans, and the world, virtually overnight.
Things can happen virtually overnight, and historically the heavens have been associated with the gods, so in a sense there is some sort of truth to theories of gods … and anthromorphism was a feature of early religions.
I thought there ws pretty good evidence that the “Eye of the Sahra” was Atlantis and Plato’s writings suggested that
… or of Atlas, in this case. And it was also quite literal.
https://youtu.be/e4-9Rx3gMNA
More to be seen here, too: https://youtu.be/j5O_gSguEMo
So, yes, they were literall pillars. But, what Dave, et al, miss is that there were TWO pillars, hence the plural. There was another one off our south pole, or what was once our south pole, hence the dual pillars before the Hebrew temple, Jachin and Boaz. Jachin was the silver pillar to the south, and Boaz was the gold pillar in the north. Atop each of these pillars once stood planets, without which there would have been no pillars: Jupiter in the south and Saturn in the north. Hence the pillars of Hercules at Gibraltar, their terrestrial ‘interpretation’. And it wasn’t a bad interpretation either, as, prior to the flood, there had been a ‘navigable’ river, but just a river, back then. After the flood, and during the division of the lands, the still-forming seas were a roiling mass of mud and gravel.
And, yes, there had actually been a ‘dragon’ there, of sorts. See Andrew Hall’s excellent videos on how the electrical discharges which once emanated only from the heavens (Zeus’ thunderbolts) later transferred to the earth’s surface as it struggled to achieve equilibrium in its new environment. This is also, by the way, where Moses’ burning bush comes from, as well as the generally electrified environment that would turn the highly capacitative ark of the covenant into such a fierce weapon, and why it electocuted one poor soul ignorant enough to touch the thing while standing in running water.
It’s also how/why Elijah’s electrically conductive offering worked when the insulated offering of the priests of Ba’Al failed.
With recent advanced geological studies, the Expanding Earth theory, validates that Earth has been a far smaller planet than its current volume, and continuing growth of volume.
What could have been a far smaller earth in times past, could have dramatically happened during the time of the biblical flood ~1987 BCE, when the Earth captured the rogue Moon. Such massive tidal forces in geology could have ripped open the continents and their movements, so that the Americas, Asia/India, Antarctic, and the Old World would have separated. What is seen and dated on the seafloor geo-magnetic signature is only what happened back then, not what is part of the upper lithosphere. One cannot say that the small growth of the mid-oceanic ridges created the entire growing earth from time past. We have unknown portions under the continents and those regions of burial and recycling of the tectonic plates that we truly do not know the full extent of plate tectonics, … other than their frozen geo-magnetic signatures and reverse polar magnetism recorded in the oceanic bedrock.
There is every option that the Americas, readily seen as fitting into the European and African coastlines, could have been separated and moved west, … such as the mentions that Atlantis (appeared to) sink into the seas, when it actually was vastly briken up and moved westward away from the Old World continent, beyond the visible oceanic horizon, and appears to disappear and sink into the ocean.
The real ancient Pangaea was the Americas as the western Atlantis portion of the singular planetary continent, while the intact Old World and that of Asia/India was the eastern Lemurian portion.
With expanding earth theory, the earth continues to grow, and in previous times the asthenosphere plates (lower regions of hard rock, seabeds, and molten magma) dislocate from the upper regions of all frozen rock lithosphere and continental cratons. These continental cratons then have any movement available to them to move apart – separate from plate tectonics, mid-oceanic seafloor ridge spreading.
When you put all this together as a singular planetary continent, on a far smaller earth volume, it is far easier for continental drift to happen apart from current plate tectonic movements. Put the Americas back up against Europe and Africa, and such lands west of the Gibraltar Strait would be the Central Americas of Mexico, … and that of Atlantis, Adam Land of Mexico and Mexico City.
(1) Atlantis is a Grecian name. Atlant – i – s. I = masculine, S = singular. If is was female it would be E. If it was plural it would be A. So for English speaking Atlant is the name. it becomes readily apparent that At – Land and Adam Land is the name of this place.
(2) It has been recently understood that in the days of the biblical dispersion of the Noahics (and other unmentioned survivors of the biblical flood), that “in the days of Peleg and Joktan the peoples were dispersed by the Elohim around the world.” The Peleg tribe was moved out of its location, while the Joktan tribe remained. Listen to the name Joktan = Yucatan and Central America of the Americas. The Joktanites remained in the Americas, while the Pelegites were moved into the European area.
(3) It is said in other Greek writings, that Plato encountered an Egyptian temple priest (most likely an Elohim descendant) and that Plato gave his genealogical descendancy for some generations. This would be anything from 50-100-200 years of ancestry. The temple priest gave his own ancestry back some 32 generations. This would be 640-800 years of ancestry.
(4) The biblical Flood (by biblical dating) is ~1987 BCE. It was the days of Peleg and Joktan, that ~150 years after the Flood, ~1837 BCE that the peoples were scattered. Plato lived 420s-340s BCE, just before the rise of the Alexandrian empire’s existence. This temple priest would then be talking about his ancestors living back into the times of the 1150s-1000s BCE.
(5) With knowledge of Greek historian Manetho (Amenhotep) he mentions that a portion of the Israelites, after they came into Egypt, some departed and created the proto-nations of the Greeks and Trojans. This was the Zara-ite branch of the Judaics. This happened, as Manetho says, some 150 years before the Exodus. The Exodus, now confirmed by royal pharaonic genealogies and the Black Obelisk, happened in 1207/1206 BCE (the same time as the multiple Venus flybys of Velikovsky). These Judaic Greeks and Trojans would have departed the Nile Delta to the Aegean island ~1350s BCE.
(6) Since the Exodus date is now known, then the biblical prophecy of YHWH to Abraham can be known – and more. The Israelites were in the Petra region of Idumea for 40 years before establishing the conquest and occupation of Canaan 1167-1166 BCE. 400 years to that gives the date, time, and age of Abraham. Abraham was 100 years old when this prophecy was made. This gives the date of 1567/1566 BCE. Abraham was born in 1667/1666 BCE.
(7) It is now known geologically that Thera exploded in 1620 BCE. A massive migration of peoples from Europe, the islands, and around the Mediterranean shorelines (experiencing massive tsunamis) fled as refugees into the Mideast (Haran-Syria, Canaan, and the Nile Delta of Kmet Egypt). It is the correct biblical timeline and ancestry of these Hebrews that they as the Habiru/Hapiru, mentioned alongside the Sea Peoples, and the Hyksos et al came into these regions, and established a kingdom in the Nile Delta – that was not part of the native Egyptian pharaonic peoples in tht 1620- 1295,1292 BCE period.
(8) IF … there has been a misunderstanding that the pillars of Hercules/Heracles (a Grecian/Roman god) is at the Gibraltar Strait. With the establishment that these proto-Grecians and proto-Romans were from these Judaic Israelites in that 1350s BCE period, then it becomes all the more real that the real Dardanelles Strait should be this/these Greek and Roman geology. And Thera is to the West of the Dardanelles. This is a more-valid proof that Atlant, Adam land could have been at Thera and thereabouts.
(9) Yet, this poses a problem. At land, Adam land, was a pre-Flood civilization. For someone to know that Europe was Atlantis, and that the Peleg-ites were re-distributed back onto those soils, while the Joktanites remained in the Americas appears strange.
(10) IF – one could truly state that the pillars of Hercules/Heracles were the Gibraltar Strait, then there is NO geological island or such extensive landform other than the Americas in which Atland could be. Atland or Adam land could only be in the Americas (Central America).
(11) Plato mentions that Atland and its curvilinear island complex with radiating spokes had to be in some larger context of a land, not oceanic region. If one looks at an Arthur C Clarke concentric ringed and spoked space station (“mother ship”) one readily sees that there was at some time in the past a landed mother ship in what could have only have been soft soil, marsh, swamp, and that such diggings under and around the mother ship’s framework would create this Platonic architecture of Atland. There are no such massive swamps and marsh anywhere in the Old World Europe and Mediterranean that could accomplish this feat.
(12) There is more of the sons of Zara, it that they are listed as Dara, Ethan, Heman, Chalchol, and Zimri. And this becomes explosively relevant. Dara or Thor and later Darius names are those of the Germanic peoples. Ethan or Odin are those of the Scandinavian peoples. Heman took massive itme to find, and it all goes back to the pre-Flood and post-Flood civilizations of the Minoans. Heman or which the (He)man – Minos – Minoans take their name are these post-Flood Linear B Israelite peoples. Heman is King Minos, or Egyptian Amen(hotep). Linear A peoples were the pre-Flood peoples. Linear B is the overlaid Israelite language put onto the older Linear A language. Chalchol also took long to discover – and its eye-opening context. Chalchol is the Greek-Mayan Kulkul Khan (Chalchol the Great). Greek sailing had transoceanic routes in those 1300s BCE and later times. There were Greek and Mayan (the Magi) contacts between the Old and New Worlds (actually vice versa as the Old World Europe was the New World, and the New World was the Old World Americas in the post-Flood times). Zimri are those other tribes of the Eastern European areas as the Cimmerians, Gomers, some portions of eastern Germans (Gomerans), and later (ancient British) Welsh, Scottish, and Irish Cymry,
(13) Such contacts between Greece (and Rome) and the Americas would have had Atland … Adam land as the real Old World, where Noah (not in a wooden barge Ark, but an actual mothership Ark) ascended above all the planetary events of the Flood (when the Moon was captured, and disrupted the upper heavens waters in the stratosphere-troposphere region, and it all came back down). Other such advanced Elohim, and such sons of Adam with the Seth-ites and the Cain-ites, also rose in other UFOs, riding out the planetary storm. The said black crow and the white dove were actually technological drones send back down onto the planet and discovering such dry lands that could be re-landed at. Such a mother ship, and Atland of Adam land, and Plato’s writing down of the Egyptian temple priests higher historical knowledge would be that land of the Americas. The original Adam land of Atlantis would have been in the Americas, and truly west of the Gibraltar Strait and the pillars of Hercules. This also fits with valid geological formations between these continental regions.
(14) It was the group of 1500s CE Aztecs (Az-tecs) who were a split off branch of earlier Mayans (Maya, Magoi, Magi) who wandered in prophecy about a swamp land with a central island, cactus, and an eagle eating a snake. They found the ancient legendary site. A swampy place with a central island, and such other surrounding islands and radial canals. They founded the Aztec empire at that spot, that was the same location and geography mentioned by the Egyptian temple priest in the 340s BCE. These Aztecs were also known by their later Greek naming as the Sadduccees, again -ee-s Sadduccs, or Hebrew Sadoks, Tzaddoks, … Azt – doks … Az – tecs. All of these Maya-Magi and Sadduccee-Aztec were from the Americas and resident in the location of the birth of Jesus. There was Old and New World sailings and transoceanic contacts from the post-Flood times down to the Pharaonic Fleet, that was given in dowry to King-Emperor Solomon and his Egyptian pharoah daughter princess wife, that eventually came down to the Knights Templars.
(15) Atlantis, Atland, Adam land … is in the Americas, … and with other massive equatorial geology of volcanic events (Mexico is a veritable region of explosive volcanoes, just like the equatorial Minoan kingdom of Knossos nearby Thera. Such massive shakings, geological disruptions, liquifaction and sinking of (then) constructed buildings .., that the Platonic descriptions of the fall and inundation of Atlantis happened by geological, tectonic Ring of Fire, and volcanic explosions in the Americas.
(16) The question arises of when the fall of Atlantis happened. Thera happened in 1620 BCE. And the real history of linguistics is that these fleeing people of Europe into the Mideast was the real start of the Aryan-Indo language. It is that period of Terah and his family escaping from Europe … Europe of the Celts … (correct location of the) Ur of the Chaldees … that the Hebrews and Aryans were from Europe into the Mideast … other branches continued into India (Indu land). It is only in the returns of many of the Abrahamic sons of Keturah into India (the Brahmins) who partially came back in the time of Moses and the Nubians who welcomed them, … and then those tribes of scattered Christians who went into India (Apostle Thomas christians) and China (Nestorian christians) … that a massive invasion of China and India by the “Wu Hei” happened, and you have massive populations of hybrid bloodlines coming back into the Mideast (as the real dark-skinned Arabs, Hebrew erebs, dark-skinned people) and invading Russia, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, Western Europe and North Africa. All of these groups are now found to have come from these bloodlines of former Mideast-Chinese, Mideast-Indan, and Mideast-Persian ancestries. Thusly, modern linguistics of Indo-Aryan linguistics only point to this time period of 400s-600s when these people came into Europe, when in truth the original ancient language came out of Europe into the Mideast and into Asia, and then came back round again).
The real Atlantis should be seen as the Aztec location that became Mexico City, the same location mentioned by the Egyptian temple priest and Plato’s writings, the original departure and relanding of Noah’s UFO mothership. The land area of the mountains of Ararat are not in Turkey/Anatolia, but in the mountains of Mexico, with such ancient Hebrew words that translate into Aztec and Maya language of today.
Atlantis was in the Americas, and that of Mexico and Central America, and its mothership capitol at Mexico City.
There was an academic study released in the past few years that showed evidence a piece of Atlantis broke off and literally floated south to merge with Antarctica. Some advanced tools have been found in the defrosting ice (due to climate change), tools that are “out of place” for the eras involved. If I can track down the link to the study, I’ll share it here.
What would be your hypothesis on what the ancients were referring to when they said “beyond the pillars of Hercules”?
None of the above.
The ancients were very fond of parelleling terrestrial events to celestial events, and those celestial events were sometimes far more ancient than the terrestrial events being fitted to them.
For example the city Schliemann found was Troy, … and it wasn’t. The Troy Homer told of was a celestial story, a ‘solar myth’ … but that myth was retold by Homer in terms of the city Schliemann found.
I know that seems crazy, but that’s how the ancients saw things, hence Herodotus’ assertion that Egypt was a ‘reflection’ of heaven. And the heaven he was referring to was a literal configuration of the heavens as they once appeared, with a celestial realm/planet up above, connected to the earthly realm/planet below by a river which was also paralleled with the Nile. Thus, as above, so below.
Now, about Atlantis…
Atlantis is literally Saturn. And not just Saturn, but also the rest of the planets in the ‘Polar Configuration’, albeit in a phase of its evolution reflected in the Babylonion ‘map of the world’. That map is also a parellel between above and below. Those ‘rays’ around the sun/earth? Those are celestial pyramids/mountain, atop each of which was a planet, hence the incomprehensible names and descriptions: They’re simply NOT terrestrial. And, yet, there are terrestrial places picture, but they are pictured strangely. This is because they are being fitted to their celestial body ‘counterparts’.
So, when the original celestial arrangement broke up, and the ‘war in heaven’ commenced, Cronus/Chronos/Saturn appeared to eat his children, and Zeus/Jupiter was born, this was told as the ‘lands’ (planets) being divided. There was an explosion of light, and water, and other elements from the nova that erupted from Saturn. And all this landed on the earth as water, salt, sand, gravel, and more. This is where the Sampo comes from in the Kalevala. Saturn is the Sampo, the cornucopia, the governor of time, the father of lights (because the rest of the universe had been obscured by the perpetural daylight that Saturn gave the earth during the Golden Age, just as our current [fifth] sun now obscures the universe half the day).
THEN … the earth began to expand, draining the newly acquired salt waters into the ocean basins. The magnetic and electric fields of the earth also decoupled from Saturn’s, completely changing our environment. Thus the flood on the earth, and the ensuing breaking up of its crust was seen as a direct parallel (and, in fact, they were related) of the celestial breakup and flood (Saturn’s rings) (which, by the way, have an oxygen atmosphere). The rings of Saturn are also where the description of Atlantis’ rings of land and sea come from.
And, by the way, it was Saturn’s north pole, not its south pole, which once faced the earth. This is why Socrates described the earth as looking like one of those balls made of 12 pieces of leather. He was describing something like a soccer ball, which was had even back then. And he was describing it thus because of Saturn’s hexagonal black spot. AND … the ‘sun’ traditionally being perceived as a mirror, it was believed to reflect the earth, much as Egypt was a reflection of heaven. And, if Saturn had that big, black, hexagonal patch, then, so, too, did the earth.
And this is where ALL the Saturnian black cubes come from: Tefellin, the Kaaba, etc.
It’s also, by the way, where all the fish symbology comes from. Dagon is Saturn. In the Indus Valley script, the fish was originally Saturn, but also came to mean star (meen), Venus, comet, etc., all using a fish symbol. And that was because its moons were seen to swim like fish in the river that ran around it, giving life to the ‘fish’. These are the living waters, the water of life, so powerful that, according to the ancients, they could bring life to even a roasted fish.
So, Atlantis was/is both the ancient arrangement of the heavens AND the entire earth itself.
And WE are the Atlanteans.
Atlantis and Lemuria existed when the earth did not have its great oceans.
I bet we should look for additional alternatives; Amazon jungle hides many mysteries, one of them might as well be connected to this ancient legend of a lost civilization and its unknown territory
---could it have been the land of Mu in the Pacific Ocean, written about the Col. Churchward? The Pacific, too, is ‘outside the pillars of Hercules’.
When I was child I read books on Dinos that were published before the confirmed Asteriod impact extinction. As I remember it the Dinosaur extinction was described as a gradual process; at least in the books that read. Now I’m wondering how evolution could have been differnent had not the asteriod collision happened. You could assume that mammels would be dominate today but we may have some direct Dinos desendants living on the fringes along with the other of todays reptiles, much smaller of course. Pterosaurs were losing out to the dino-cousins the Birds. Would we still have some desendants of the prehistoric ocean-reptiles? Water Under the Bridge, I guess.
Hi All,
The monster Troll Grendel an his mother are described as Giant's as well in some Beowulf stories. My main question would be how tall Beowulf could have been.
There is an a very Ancient Animilin Encyclopedia that shares descriptions of various Dragon's that are mentioned throughout Europe and Asia witnessed by countless people.
A majority of witnesses were Farmer's they'd come out of their farm house an a dragon would be eating there harvest. About 900 A.D. in Britannia as it once was identified so Farmer killed the Dragon it was eating his harvest.
Much of Farmers and Fishermen that routinely saw these Dragon's did describe them with hard pierced armor reptilian scaly skin. Luckily some people who were trained as Blacksmith it took javelins, spears, lances, swords to kill these creature.
I realize at once that I was not born in 900 A.D. However, all of those witnesses to seeing Dragon's couldn't have been that delusional an I don't feel they were mistaken about Dragon's.
This is my general feeling and thoughts on the Subject of Beowulf unless I think of something to share. Until next time Everyone, Goodbye!
Excellent analysis. Thank you for your important work!
The clue in the alignment of this pyramid is 23 degrees. This represents the approximate tilt of planet earth. As such, the Kukulcan pyramid is aligned directly to the winter and summer solstices. Nothing to do with the north cardinal point and ancient star locations. This can easily be checked with Google Earth. This is not a coincidence and shows that the winter solstice sunrise and summer solstice sunset – 6 months apart, were special times for these ancient sky or sun watchers. Also, the same orientation may be found in the head of the Serpent Mound in Ohio.
Its interesting to note that Chichen Itza also has a Serpent whose shadow becomes apparent at the equinoxes. So two serpents and two similar alignments. Cultural connections? The Pyramid of Palenque also orients to the solstices.
In general mesoamerican pyramids either align to the solstices or the cross-quarter days, i.e the 1st May sunset and 2nd February sunrise. Examples include Teotihuacan, Tikal, Kinich Kak Moo, Teotenango and Caracol. The common factor seems to be sunworshipping with some cultures favouring the solstices while others the cross-quarter days.
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