Anything you "type in" will return mountains of information. Doesn't matter whether it's "israeli slave trade" or "jesus rides velociraptors through my living room", you will get more "information" than you could possibly go through, much less confirm its veracity(although I'd bet the second search string returns more truthful information than the first.)
"Humans who are forced to do something they cannot walk away from, are slaves."
By that definition, we are all slaves and always will be. There are things we are "forced" to do every day lest we die, such as eat, drink, sleep, and so on. The universe is mean, mother nature doesn't care, life sucks then you die, etc.
Ok … if the drawing and rock art is that of a boat … I guess the goods onboard were deer, sheep, goats and reindeer that were transported in it. You might as well conclude this was a Viking expedition taking their animals to market.
Why else were these animals depicted with a boat?
The Auga dos Cebros rock panel on the Atlantic north coast of Spain is in very poor condition.
Dig V’s web site has a low resolution showing this badly weathered petroglyph.
Interpretation of art is subjective and greatly influenced by one’s culture, opinions and desire to see things.
If you’re looking for a particular “something” found in today’s abstract art or ancient rock panel, chances are, your eye and mind just might make that “something” appear.
“Boat” images in rock art are found in many countries - Azerbaijan, Canada, Scandinavia, and recently, rediscoveries in the desert showing petroglyph boat panels are being studied around Upper Egypt’s ancient capital of Nekhen or Hierakonpolis.
If you think an image is a boat, then you’ll be finding characteristics in the rock art that resemble what your boat should look like based upon your background experiences.
To you, it becomes your boat. For me, I might see something else.
Commonality with today’s designed boats is either similar or vastly different from one another.
Size, shape, function and price will determine the outcome of a boat’s design.
In Tom Carberry’s reply, he indicated research findings of many ancient seafaring connections with distant cultures.
So what’s the big deal here? Commerce from the seas has been ongoing since the first boat was dropped into a river, pond, lake, ocean …
Good luck with their educational arboretum, because I don’t buy into this rock as Capturing the moment when Atlantic and Mediterranean Cultures met.
Rupert Sheldrake, famous British biologist, has written a wonderful book on the prejudices of science: Science Set Free: 10 Paths to New Discovery.
When you read this book, you see the blinders of science and the limits it imposes on reality before it utters a word.
Scientific orthodoxy is not objective at all. It's more like a box into which little new enters, and quite often serves as a defense against the new. It's interesting that it's not infrequent for the "amateurs" to have insight that the professionals can't or won't because of their preconditioning as well as the career rewards for not straying too far from the party line. One excellent example is the possibility of an advanced culture predating those we call "ancient Egyptians." The evidence is all there: advanced stone cutting not possible for the copper chisel and rock hammer wielding Egyptians of the third millennia BC, the water weathering of the Sphinx that caused geological erosion specialist Robert Schoch to say it was at least 7000 years old, the engineering wonders of the pyramids, etc., etc. Still Egyptologists cling to their house of cards time and story line. To my mind that kind of closed mindedness smacks of religion, not science.
Yes, thank you Harry, that’s right. There was an error in the translation from the original Spanish version of this article. We have now corrected the mistake. Apologies.
This whole argument of God versus science is absolutely stupid and ignorant . First of all, even if dinosaurs lived up until yesterday it doesn't mean anything other then the currant understanding of our past needs to be corrected and updated ,that's all it means . Yes there is a lot that we don't know . Science could someday prove that a great deal of religious text is based on real events and are there for fact, that still doesn't mean that all religious text is fact or that God is real. Or science could proof someday that God is real but that still doesn't mean that all the hard studied and tested work of science is wrong, it just means that we don't know it all. But to say something is fact just because its in some book with out some proven evidence is simply a guess and nothing more and guessing or believing a thing is fact only based on one faith is not science. Science is only the search for the truth or real facts based on repeatable experimentation, whatever the conclusions of those experiments may be. The improbability of a thing makes no difference if through repeatable experimentation the results prove it to be fact. True science is only the disciplined search for what the true factual reality is ,the provable reality,not the "because I said so reality" or the "just hoping or guessing reality". Here is the best example of the "guessing reality" based on religious faith. The quote end quote "END TIMES" here in the year of our Lord Oct 9th 2015 the earth is still here despite being guaranteed by the faithful countless times this century of its absolute destruction . As a matter of fact it has been claimed over thousand times by the Christian faithful over the last 200 years, that earth was to be destroyed on a specific date only to have that date come and go with out even the smallest amount of fire and brimstone. Talk about crying wolf, it sure doesn't lend credibility to anything that christian community wants to claim to be fact based on their faith. Considering how many times they have been wrong about the Apocalypse, I don't think I will put my faith in creationism or as I see it "just guessing". Yes the world will end someday and if you play the same lotto # long enough it will come up. I personally wish evangelical Christians would shut the "F "up about the end times because at this point it's nothing but a self fulling prophecy and someday some asshole will make it happen just to be right and the rest of us will be F "ed not because God has come back but because some jerk wanted the world to end. Think about it "EVERY SINGLE END TIME PREDICTION HAS BEEN WRONG EVERYONE ONE OF THEM" do you realize how much money is made by these assholes that claim to know when Jesus is coming. Jesus said its not even for him to know the hour or day, He also said to watch for false prophets , so if Jesus did not know when, then any one that says they "KNOW" when the end is , is a lying false prophet , DA ,DA , do you get it now , that also MEANS that if you think you know what day it all ends is, that you need to stop digging that bunker in your back yard and seek professional help, Because your not closer to god then Jesus your just nuts.
Maybe the owner should dig a little deeper … the original owner of the disc might just still be there in the garden.
The reply from the Burke Museum that “it should not have been found in your part of the country” is unbelievable … It was found there so go figure out how it could have gotten there.
If this artefact had been recovered in their state, they’d have been all over that guy’s garden looking for additional relics.
A jade sword and a medallion are a few known articles that have been recovered around the Carolinas and now Kentucky, that have been attributed to a Chinese origin.
There’s a growing belief that China had a presence in the Americas (South & North), well before Columbus arrived in 1492.
I guess the Burke Museum personnel never read about the Chinese epic sea voyages and mapping the Globe including Antarctica which was not rediscovered until about 1820.
I think this is a burn. If someone has a proper job, i.e. Anthropologist, one could expect to be able to google the name and the job and get something. Something that shows he is an anthropologist. But nothing. There is a rather heavyweight looking lawyer by that name (I hope, if this is a hoax, THAT was thought through). If Freie Universität is funding something, why can't we find it on their website? In fact, there is nothing at all to link that place to the story. Why put a link to the university if it doesn't refer to the thing your article refers to?... And if a major find was being researched by a prominent German university, isn't it a bit disconcerting that it's only media outlet is essentially just an expat blog ... by a guy ... who now lives ... in that country?... And if we take the story in the context of it coming from a one man news/blog site, on the t'internet, with no other searchable t'internet sources, and a man who may as well be Michael Knight as the protagonist, we can draw only one conclusion: It doesn't exist. I'm surprised that there wasn't the obligatory prattle about Watchers/Nephilim. Georgio wouldn't have missed that opportunity. After all, a bit more googling shows this is a region von Daniken and Bruce Fenton have had a go at. Giant fans know this is a region where sex pest giants attacked locals and had to driven off by angelic intervention. Actual experts also know that this is a good area to find ice age megafauna fossils. Meh.
Has anyone ever figured out where the Vikings came from? I have seen circumstantial evidence that the Vikings originated in the western hemisphere. They could be the blonde, and red haired, and blue eyed white men living here, spoken of in Native American history. They would be, in my opinion, the ancient ones spoken of by the now ancient ones of the Indians, and the Egyptians. That would make them the ancient ones the Egyptians told about to Plato, The Atlantians, who were world travelers previous to the Egyptians. Awesome pre-ancient ruins have been found now all around the world, that no one can figure out. Blonde haired blue-eyed people were found in the earliest accounts of French, Spanish, and English pioneers, in the Indian tribes. They may have been the reminances of a previous evolution of man, decimated by natural catastrophes, then wiped out, incorporated into tribes, and or dispersed from the western hemisphere.
“While there are many ancient medicines that are effective by modern standards, many are not or are frankly dangerous.”
I think it would be just as valid to say, “While there are many modern medicines that are effective by ancient standards, many are not or are frankly dangerous.”
‘Modern medicine’ also has a habit of making making toxic pharmaceutical versions of natural remedies. This is done because synthetic compounds can be patented; meanwhile the companies involved continue to wage a downright sinister PR war against natural medicine.
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Anything you "type in" will return mountains of information. Doesn't matter whether it's "israeli slave trade" or "jesus rides velociraptors through my living room", you will get more "information" than you could possibly go through, much less confirm its veracity(although I'd bet the second search string returns more truthful information than the first.)
Well said, sir! Very well said indeed!
"Humans who are forced to do something they cannot walk away from, are slaves."
By that definition, we are all slaves and always will be. There are things we are "forced" to do every day lest we die, such as eat, drink, sleep, and so on. The universe is mean, mother nature doesn't care, life sucks then you die, etc.
Too bad the article did not include the Peacock throne in Iran. A much stories seat in itself. Good pictures can be found online about it.
Ok … if the drawing and rock art is that of a boat … I guess the goods onboard were deer, sheep, goats and reindeer that were transported in it. You might as well conclude this was a Viking expedition taking their animals to market.
Why else were these animals depicted with a boat?
The Auga dos Cebros rock panel on the Atlantic north coast of Spain is in very poor condition.
Dig V’s web site has a low resolution showing this badly weathered petroglyph.
Interpretation of art is subjective and greatly influenced by one’s culture, opinions and desire to see things.
If you’re looking for a particular “something” found in today’s abstract art or ancient rock panel, chances are, your eye and mind just might make that “something” appear.
“Boat” images in rock art are found in many countries - Azerbaijan, Canada, Scandinavia, and recently, rediscoveries in the desert showing petroglyph boat panels are being studied around Upper Egypt’s ancient capital of Nekhen or Hierakonpolis.
If you think an image is a boat, then you’ll be finding characteristics in the rock art that resemble what your boat should look like based upon your background experiences.
To you, it becomes your boat. For me, I might see something else.
Commonality with today’s designed boats is either similar or vastly different from one another.
Size, shape, function and price will determine the outcome of a boat’s design.
In Tom Carberry’s reply, he indicated research findings of many ancient seafaring connections with distant cultures.
So what’s the big deal here? Commerce from the seas has been ongoing since the first boat was dropped into a river, pond, lake, ocean …
Good luck with their educational arboretum, because I don’t buy into this rock as Capturing the moment when Atlantic and Mediterranean Cultures met.
How do they know that the entire population had the same genes as this one person?
What if the opposite happened? Eurasians migrated into africa and then left africa
It's not a contest! sheesh
Rupert Sheldrake, famous British biologist, has written a wonderful book on the prejudices of science: Science Set Free: 10 Paths to New Discovery.
When you read this book, you see the blinders of science and the limits it imposes on reality before it utters a word.
Scientific orthodoxy is not objective at all. It's more like a box into which little new enters, and quite often serves as a defense against the new. It's interesting that it's not infrequent for the "amateurs" to have insight that the professionals can't or won't because of their preconditioning as well as the career rewards for not straying too far from the party line. One excellent example is the possibility of an advanced culture predating those we call "ancient Egyptians." The evidence is all there: advanced stone cutting not possible for the copper chisel and rock hammer wielding Egyptians of the third millennia BC, the water weathering of the Sphinx that caused geological erosion specialist Robert Schoch to say it was at least 7000 years old, the engineering wonders of the pyramids, etc., etc. Still Egyptologists cling to their house of cards time and story line. To my mind that kind of closed mindedness smacks of religion, not science.
Yes, thank you Harry, that’s right. There was an error in the translation from the original Spanish version of this article. We have now corrected the mistake. Apologies.
This whole argument of God versus science is absolutely stupid and ignorant . First of all, even if dinosaurs lived up until yesterday it doesn't mean anything other then the currant understanding of our past needs to be corrected and updated ,that's all it means . Yes there is a lot that we don't know . Science could someday prove that a great deal of religious text is based on real events and are there for fact, that still doesn't mean that all religious text is fact or that God is real. Or science could proof someday that God is real but that still doesn't mean that all the hard studied and tested work of science is wrong, it just means that we don't know it all. But to say something is fact just because its in some book with out some proven evidence is simply a guess and nothing more and guessing or believing a thing is fact only based on one faith is not science. Science is only the search for the truth or real facts based on repeatable experimentation, whatever the conclusions of those experiments may be. The improbability of a thing makes no difference if through repeatable experimentation the results prove it to be fact. True science is only the disciplined search for what the true factual reality is ,the provable reality,not the "because I said so reality" or the "just hoping or guessing reality". Here is the best example of the "guessing reality" based on religious faith. The quote end quote "END TIMES" here in the year of our Lord Oct 9th 2015 the earth is still here despite being guaranteed by the faithful countless times this century of its absolute destruction . As a matter of fact it has been claimed over thousand times by the Christian faithful over the last 200 years, that earth was to be destroyed on a specific date only to have that date come and go with out even the smallest amount of fire and brimstone. Talk about crying wolf, it sure doesn't lend credibility to anything that christian community wants to claim to be fact based on their faith. Considering how many times they have been wrong about the Apocalypse, I don't think I will put my faith in creationism or as I see it "just guessing". Yes the world will end someday and if you play the same lotto # long enough it will come up. I personally wish evangelical Christians would shut the "F "up about the end times because at this point it's nothing but a self fulling prophecy and someday some asshole will make it happen just to be right and the rest of us will be F "ed not because God has come back but because some jerk wanted the world to end. Think about it "EVERY SINGLE END TIME PREDICTION HAS BEEN WRONG EVERYONE ONE OF THEM" do you realize how much money is made by these assholes that claim to know when Jesus is coming. Jesus said its not even for him to know the hour or day, He also said to watch for false prophets , so if Jesus did not know when, then any one that says they "KNOW" when the end is , is a lying false prophet , DA ,DA , do you get it now , that also MEANS that if you think you know what day it all ends is, that you need to stop digging that bunker in your back yard and seek professional help, Because your not closer to god then Jesus your just nuts.
Maybe the owner should dig a little deeper … the original owner of the disc might just still be there in the garden.
The reply from the Burke Museum that “it should not have been found in your part of the country” is unbelievable … It was found there so go figure out how it could have gotten there.
If this artefact had been recovered in their state, they’d have been all over that guy’s garden looking for additional relics.
A jade sword and a medallion are a few known articles that have been recovered around the Carolinas and now Kentucky, that have been attributed to a Chinese origin.
There’s a growing belief that China had a presence in the Americas (South & North), well before Columbus arrived in 1492.
I guess the Burke Museum personnel never read about the Chinese epic sea voyages and mapping the Globe including Antarctica which was not rediscovered until about 1820.
These "discs" look like fossilized stromatolites. Saw one recently in a natural history museum and it looked just like this.
I think this is a burn. If someone has a proper job, i.e. Anthropologist, one could expect to be able to google the name and the job and get something. Something that shows he is an anthropologist. But nothing. There is a rather heavyweight looking lawyer by that name (I hope, if this is a hoax, THAT was thought through). If Freie Universität is funding something, why can't we find it on their website? In fact, there is nothing at all to link that place to the story. Why put a link to the university if it doesn't refer to the thing your article refers to?...
And if a major find was being researched by a prominent German university, isn't it a bit disconcerting that it's only media outlet is essentially just an expat blog ... by a guy ... who now lives ... in that country?...
And if we take the story in the context of it coming from a one man news/blog site, on the t'internet, with no other searchable t'internet sources, and a man who may as well be Michael Knight as the protagonist, we can draw only one conclusion: It doesn't exist.
I'm surprised that there wasn't the obligatory prattle about Watchers/Nephilim. Georgio wouldn't have missed that opportunity. After all, a bit more googling shows this is a region von Daniken and Bruce Fenton have had a go at. Giant fans know this is a region where sex pest giants attacked locals and had to driven off by angelic intervention.
Actual experts also know that this is a good area to find ice age megafauna fossils. Meh.
They said one of the evilest emperors of China had a library destroyed that contained books, some say, went all the way back to nearly Adam!
Searches for information on the claimed anthropologist return only links to other versions of the above article.
Dear Mathman, please take a moment to google Assyriology. You'll learn something new.
Are we talking about Chachapoya People?
Has anyone ever figured out where the Vikings came from? I have seen circumstantial evidence that the Vikings originated in the western hemisphere. They could be the blonde, and red haired, and blue eyed white men living here, spoken of in Native American history. They would be, in my opinion, the ancient ones spoken of by the now ancient ones of the Indians, and the Egyptians. That would make them the ancient ones the Egyptians told about to Plato, The Atlantians, who were world travelers previous to the Egyptians. Awesome pre-ancient ruins have been found now all around the world, that no one can figure out. Blonde haired blue-eyed people were found in the earliest accounts of French, Spanish, and English pioneers, in the Indian tribes. They may have been the reminances of a previous evolution of man, decimated by natural catastrophes, then wiped out, incorporated into tribes, and or dispersed from the western hemisphere.
“While there are many ancient medicines that are effective by modern standards, many are not or are frankly dangerous.”
I think it would be just as valid to say, “While there are many modern medicines that are effective by ancient standards, many are not or are frankly dangerous.”
‘Modern medicine’ also has a habit of making making toxic pharmaceutical versions of natural remedies. This is done because synthetic compounds can be patented; meanwhile the companies involved continue to wage a downright sinister PR war against natural medicine.
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