Personally I don't think it would turn to water, because the latent heat of melting and then vaporisation of ice is very large. Larger than most solids-liquids. I think it would exceed the capability of the impact. In addition, ice is quite a good insulator, so the heat would not have time to spread effectively, in the instant of impact.
But if you have a spare Cray computer, and a fat Climate Change grant, we could always try. Ah, sorry, I forgot, those are only for CO2 research. ;-)
Why don't you have some "faith" in evolution as you do in your religion. It's incalculable the number of bones that have been destroyed by man unintentionally. Also it would be wise to take the world's different climatic conditions into consideration as in Africa and Southern Asia there is generally higher acidity levels in soil and that tends to break down the anatomy faster. Also if you look at areas like Iraq for example there are deserts and caves that would be able to preserve these fossils. Particularly in Europe too with the cold conditions aiding to preserve fossils. I'm telling you Neanderthal Man was real and we as man owe them a debt of thanks for the culture and insight to ponder our origins and (unfortunately) to comfort ourselves into thinking there's more than this life. We're just the lucky apes in my opinion.
I know this might have seemed like a rant, forgive me for that it isn't my intention. I really feel strongly about evolution since I first fully grasped it. I'm only 18 as well and I do respect an opinion of those that are older than me and have had more time to reflect on it. All I ask is that you consider my thoughts before rejecting it, thank you!
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If you would like to read Ralph's full and more detailed article about the Carolina Bays, it is on the Academia,edu site on the following link. This, and the Ice Age article, have pushed Ralph into the top 0.5% of contributors on Academia,edu:
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This is Ralph's second climate article, which deals with as yet unknown mechanism for Ice Age modulation. The Ice Age article is interesting, because it strongly suggests that CO2 is not the primary feedback-warming agent for our climate.
The real modulator of earth temperature and climate is albedo, not CO2. And if this is true then Western governments are wasting something like $100 to $200 billion a year of our money on a non-problem. Please remember that there has ben no Global Warming for 18 years.
The kinetic energy would've invariably shattered and then melted any ice, turny the slushy blobs of into lukewarm water on impact -- basically lobbing huge water balloons into S. Carolina. It would be pretty easy to scale, simulate and film in slow motion. Be fun, too.
Most are not aware that while Moses was wandeirng around the desert guided by a cloud, the Hopi were making their three trips around the Americas. They were guided by the Kachinas. Mind you...both happening at the same time period.
Those of us that are trained in spirtiual matterns, as well as being trained in old history can see far beyond some ingrained over the centuries, the hard beliefs forced on humanity by the church. The creation stories all across the world are far too similar to dismiss as just stories out side of the bible writings. The earth had three previous lives...the earth was an experiment from an ancient extra terrestial culture. Three failed...This is the fourth world. The other three were destroyed because of the corruption of the occupants... mainly being evil and uncontrollable. Notice that the Church turned to control by fear and slavery to support the church. The HOPI instead were taught to reveer Nature and live in harmony with it, and it would always provide for the next generation.
Yet, still there are two distinct worlds that are confused. The Spirit world is an unseen world , so the scientists and mundane thinkers cannot prove it and thus not proven, does not exist. Then there is the world of solid matter that can be moved, molded, and possessed, and sold. The HOPI were taught to respect both worlds, but the humans of the rest of the world lost their contact with the spiritual world. they let the Church tell them that only their leaders could communicate with the unseen world, and they alone were the protection. Protection from the lower evils...but also prevented from being educated on how to learn from the higher pure enlightenment. The HOPI elders are the keepers of the wisdoms. They try to teach a balance with nature and the spiritual world. Many of the churches and false religions will be wiped away when the 5 th world is ushered in.
In the early 80's I had the unusual experience to have a brief audience with Grand Father David. We were not allowed to take notes, or photograph, or record anything. I wish I had a digital memory. It all went by so fast. He had several ( Sargents) that stood as protectors around him, and were ready to intervene at any time.
An interruption from a rep from the power company came in. A person on the very edge of the Mesa wanted electricity. But, since it was still the Mesa under Grand Father David's control, the request was denied. I had just witnessed one of the last of the laws of the Elders being upheld.
When we tried to ask about the prophesies, Things began to waiver. There were no straight answers. Rather a long stream of visual provoking choppy references to corn, the elements, We could not get an answer about the Star and the Blue Star Kachina dancing in the plaza as the prediction of end of times. I stayed with a farming and live stock keeper family in one of the villages over several visits. Got to see first hand some of the ritual dances. Was nice to have a great deal of it explained to me the best it could be done. I walked the fields with them and watched both the hand planting and the use of the tractor. They use very old techniques of knowing ley lines to plant. The largest concern even before the 80's when I was there was the risk of genetic polution from people like Monsanto GMO grain. They have their own safe seed vaults and share them with their deep Southern cousins in South America. They need help to fight Monsanto and the government experiments.
I also had the experience to sit in conversation with Grand Father David's good friend Rolling Thunder one evening when I visited Rolling Thunder's Commune. Similar questions...but much the same garbled answers. The really sad thing is that most all of the wisdom of these last elders was lost because they were considered senile and their words were unusable. Yet, the whites and the rest of the world have no real clue that tere are several that are still passing down the stories, legends, and exact ceremonies that have been practiced since the earliest times. Some will leak out in books from time to time... but we will never hear all the history and truths. Just get your go bag ready if you get an accurate news piece stating the kachina with the blue star mask removed his mask in the plaza. Start paying attention. you might be witnessing history to be documented happening right before your eyes...and not just on your cell phone.
It is madness to think that these sacred sites can be sold off and dismembered. I am sure that the old traditions - and curses - are true, and it would be far better to heed those warnings. We have in our family archive a rather old and cryptic scroll that is supposed to date from 1564, to an old village of Bowle. We have been able to make out one section of the text in a still unidentifiable language that may be a blend of local celtic and latin:
Faroste' lar Uqicky taahrms Daar ma' h'jah niiklee da'li chuush
Below which there appears to be an angry, smallish imp or fairy that is bringing a large cudgel or spoon to bear above it's head.
READ "WHEN ROCKS CRY OUT" by Horace Butler. He is teaching those to students and have GIVEN NG discoveries they denied him and are no bringing to light, like the world kings being buried in paradise, south America, Jesus real history in the Americas. The walls of Troy, Why we have Hurricanes HERUCAINS and much more. RACISM IS STOPPING THE TRUTH BURIED DURING THE DARK AGES!
............the curse couldn't be bestowed upon a more suitable industry. I would suggest that the locals there take a serious look at their ruling authority. It could effect the whole community. It the fairies have maintained the site for all these centuries, they certainly are not going to stand for the destruction of their fort. Actually leaving it alone isn't asking that much. Most don't believe in them because they can't see them. They can't see oxygen either, but it's there.
Great article - lots of places I had never heard of.
However, I find the timing of the following statement highly unlikely. ;-)
"It is recorded that during the 6th century BC, Christianity was propagated in the Nile Valley from Aswan all the way south to the confluence of the White Nile and the Blue Nile at modern day Khartoum."
For Ancient Egyptian theywere not in need with chariots to built pyramids they inventé the sledge it was more practicle on sands than wheels! This is what make them genious! Why the need wheels and they have sledges? Sledge iS another remarkable invention ! Regards
“Although Patten referred to himself as a “creationist,” his books have no creation in them from the Biblical sense of God making everything, but rather consist of detailed analysis of facts. He argues that many of the descriptions of catastrophes in the Bible described actual catastrophic events caused by close encounters with Mars.”
Given their orbits, the closest possible approach the earth can make with Mars is 54.6 million km. That’s 142 lunar distances, and nowhere near close enough to cause catastrophic effects. If Mars were knocked out of its orbit into a much closer path of approach we might be in trouble, but this clearly has not happened (to say nothing of repeated encounters).
Frankford Ave. doesn't actually run along the river. Wasn't Richmond St. an older and more popular way to leave Philadelphia to the north? There was an old colonial inn at Richmond and Wheatsheaf Lane that was the last inn when leaving the Philadelphia area. Washington stayed here at times. Unfortunately, it had been added to so many times over the centuries that it had no historical value. It was torn down a few years back to make room for new housing that was never built.
The old "God is Satan" hogwash. Instead of wasting your brain trying to figure out deceptive mess ask Jesus to come into your life, the gift of the Holy Spirit,which is the spirit of complete truth,will take the scales away from your eyes ao you can see whats really going on. Right now it is like you are wearing dark tinted shades, "seeing through a glass darkened".
“Modern studies refute Hapgood’s theory that such a shift could have taken place within thousands of years, but they show that it could have happened within millions of years.”
Total BS. No modern studies have “refuted” anything, but merely have substituted one opinion based on some facts, with other opinions based on no facts.
I challenge anyone to show how the Antarctic ice formed by “climate change.” Show me the math of snowfall creating miles thick ice.
The ice could not have formed through any mechanism known to us on the earth today. No natural phenomenon known to us today could have created miles thick ice, no matter how many millions of years given for the task.
If you look at images of the maximum extent of the northern and southern ice sheets and compare them to a map of the earth’s geomagnetic poles, you will see the ice covered the same area as the geomagnetic poles.
While this doesn’t prove anything, it suggests a correlation between the magnetic poles and the ice. The catastrohist Donald Patten argued that the ice formed during a close encounter with Mars as massive amounts of water from Mars rained down on the earth, following the magnetic lines of the poles.
Although Patten referred to himself as a “creationist,” his books have no creation in them from the Biblical sense of God making everything, but rather consist of detailed analysis of facts. He argues that many of the descriptions of catastrophes in the Bible described actual catastrophic events caused by close encounters with Mars.
The philologist Cyrus Gordon wrote several books about ancient Near Eastern voyages to the Americas. Although his books didn't cover this bowl, they did discuss other writings found in South and North America that remained in dispute for a very long time.
But recent discoveries in ancient literature have verified their authenticity, as Gordon showed in Riddles in History. Many of the ancient writings had ancient riddles buried inside the text, and when they re-examined the disputed texts founds in the Americas, they found these too had the hidden riddles no forger could have known about 100 years ago.
I wonder if these text has a hidden riddle, such as the author's religion and devotion?
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Possible. I would like to see.
Personally I don't think it would turn to water, because the latent heat of melting and then vaporisation of ice is very large. Larger than most solids-liquids. I think it would exceed the capability of the impact. In addition, ice is quite a good insulator, so the heat would not have time to spread effectively, in the instant of impact.
But if you have a spare Cray computer, and a fat Climate Change grant, we could always try. Ah, sorry, I forgot, those are only for CO2 research. ;-)
Cheers,
Ralph
Why don't you have some "faith" in evolution as you do in your religion. It's incalculable the number of bones that have been destroyed by man unintentionally. Also it would be wise to take the world's different climatic conditions into consideration as in Africa and Southern Asia there is generally higher acidity levels in soil and that tends to break down the anatomy faster. Also if you look at areas like Iraq for example there are deserts and caves that would be able to preserve these fossils. Particularly in Europe too with the cold conditions aiding to preserve fossils. I'm telling you Neanderthal Man was real and we as man owe them a debt of thanks for the culture and insight to ponder our origins and (unfortunately) to comfort ourselves into thinking there's more than this life. We're just the lucky apes in my opinion.
I know this might have seemed like a rant, forgive me for that it isn't my intention. I really feel strongly about evolution since I first fully grasped it. I'm only 18 as well and I do respect an opinion of those that are older than me and have had more time to reflect on it. All I ask is that you consider my thoughts before rejecting it, thank you!
.
If you would like to read Ralph's full and more detailed article about the Carolina Bays, it is on the Academia,edu site on the following link. This, and the Ice Age article, have pushed Ralph into the top 0.5% of contributors on Academia,edu:
https://www.academia.edu/17274053/The_Carolina_Bays_and_the_destruction_...
.
This is Ralph's second climate article, which deals with as yet unknown mechanism for Ice Age modulation. The Ice Age article is interesting, because it strongly suggests that CO2 is not the primary feedback-warming agent for our climate.
The real modulator of earth temperature and climate is albedo, not CO2. And if this is true then Western governments are wasting something like $100 to $200 billion a year of our money on a non-problem. Please remember that there has ben no Global Warming for 18 years.
https://www.academia.edu/16866736/Albedo_regulation_of_Ice_Ages_with_no_...
The kinetic energy would've invariably shattered and then melted any ice, turny the slushy blobs of into lukewarm water on impact -- basically lobbing huge water balloons into S. Carolina. It would be pretty easy to scale, simulate and film in slow motion. Be fun, too.
Most are not aware that while Moses was wandeirng around the desert guided by a cloud, the Hopi were making their three trips around the Americas. They were guided by the Kachinas. Mind you...both happening at the same time period.
Those of us that are trained in spirtiual matterns, as well as being trained in old history can see far beyond some ingrained over the centuries, the hard beliefs forced on humanity by the church. The creation stories all across the world are far too similar to dismiss as just stories out side of the bible writings. The earth had three previous lives...the earth was an experiment from an ancient extra terrestial culture. Three failed...This is the fourth world. The other three were destroyed because of the corruption of the occupants... mainly being evil and uncontrollable. Notice that the Church turned to control by fear and slavery to support the church. The HOPI instead were taught to reveer Nature and live in harmony with it, and it would always provide for the next generation.
Yet, still there are two distinct worlds that are confused. The Spirit world is an unseen world , so the scientists and mundane thinkers cannot prove it and thus not proven, does not exist. Then there is the world of solid matter that can be moved, molded, and possessed, and sold. The HOPI were taught to respect both worlds, but the humans of the rest of the world lost their contact with the spiritual world. they let the Church tell them that only their leaders could communicate with the unseen world, and they alone were the protection. Protection from the lower evils...but also prevented from being educated on how to learn from the higher pure enlightenment. The HOPI elders are the keepers of the wisdoms. They try to teach a balance with nature and the spiritual world. Many of the churches and false religions will be wiped away when the 5 th world is ushered in.
In the early 80's I had the unusual experience to have a brief audience with Grand Father David. We were not allowed to take notes, or photograph, or record anything. I wish I had a digital memory. It all went by so fast. He had several ( Sargents) that stood as protectors around him, and were ready to intervene at any time.
An interruption from a rep from the power company came in. A person on the very edge of the Mesa wanted electricity. But, since it was still the Mesa under Grand Father David's control, the request was denied. I had just witnessed one of the last of the laws of the Elders being upheld.
When we tried to ask about the prophesies, Things began to waiver. There were no straight answers. Rather a long stream of visual provoking choppy references to corn, the elements, We could not get an answer about the Star and the Blue Star Kachina dancing in the plaza as the prediction of end of times. I stayed with a farming and live stock keeper family in one of the villages over several visits. Got to see first hand some of the ritual dances. Was nice to have a great deal of it explained to me the best it could be done. I walked the fields with them and watched both the hand planting and the use of the tractor. They use very old techniques of knowing ley lines to plant. The largest concern even before the 80's when I was there was the risk of genetic polution from people like Monsanto GMO grain. They have their own safe seed vaults and share them with their deep Southern cousins in South America. They need help to fight Monsanto and the government experiments.
I also had the experience to sit in conversation with Grand Father David's good friend Rolling Thunder one evening when I visited Rolling Thunder's Commune. Similar questions...but much the same garbled answers. The really sad thing is that most all of the wisdom of these last elders was lost because they were considered senile and their words were unusable. Yet, the whites and the rest of the world have no real clue that tere are several that are still passing down the stories, legends, and exact ceremonies that have been practiced since the earliest times. Some will leak out in books from time to time... but we will never hear all the history and truths. Just get your go bag ready if you get an accurate news piece stating the kachina with the blue star mask removed his mask in the plaza. Start paying attention. you might be witnessing history to be documented happening right before your eyes...and not just on your cell phone.
Please keep sending me more weird stuff!
It is madness to think that these sacred sites can be sold off and dismembered. I am sure that the old traditions - and curses - are true, and it would be far better to heed those warnings. We have in our family archive a rather old and cryptic scroll that is supposed to date from 1564, to an old village of Bowle. We have been able to make out one section of the text in a still unidentifiable language that may be a blend of local celtic and latin:
Faroste' lar Uqicky taahrms Daar ma' h'jah niiklee da'li chuush
Below which there appears to be an angry, smallish imp or fairy that is bringing a large cudgel or spoon to bear above it's head.
READ "WHEN ROCKS CRY OUT" by Horace Butler. He is teaching those to students and have GIVEN NG discoveries they denied him and are no bringing to light, like the world kings being buried in paradise, south America, Jesus real history in the Americas. The walls of Troy, Why we have Hurricanes HERUCAINS and much more. RACISM IS STOPPING THE TRUTH BURIED DURING THE DARK AGES!
Beating oneself is still practiced in some religion...so this must be an older version.
............the curse couldn't be bestowed upon a more suitable industry. I would suggest that the locals there take a serious look at their ruling authority. It could effect the whole community. It the fairies have maintained the site for all these centuries, they certainly are not going to stand for the destruction of their fort. Actually leaving it alone isn't asking that much. Most don't believe in them because they can't see them. They can't see oxygen either, but it's there.
Great article - lots of places I had never heard of.
However, I find the timing of the following statement highly unlikely. ;-)
"It is recorded that during the 6th century BC, Christianity was propagated in the Nile Valley from Aswan all the way south to the confluence of the White Nile and the Blue Nile at modern day Khartoum."
For Ancient Egyptian theywere not in need with chariots to built pyramids they inventé the sledge it was more practicle on sands than wheels! This is what make them genious! Why the need wheels and they have sledges? Sledge iS another remarkable invention ! Regards
“Although Patten referred to himself as a “creationist,” his books have no creation in them from the Biblical sense of God making everything, but rather consist of detailed analysis of facts. He argues that many of the descriptions of catastrophes in the Bible described actual catastrophic events caused by close encounters with Mars.”
Given their orbits, the closest possible approach the earth can make with Mars is 54.6 million km. That’s 142 lunar distances, and nowhere near close enough to cause catastrophic effects. If Mars were knocked out of its orbit into a much closer path of approach we might be in trouble, but this clearly has not happened (to say nothing of repeated encounters).
Frankford Ave. doesn't actually run along the river. Wasn't Richmond St. an older and more popular way to leave Philadelphia to the north? There was an old colonial inn at Richmond and Wheatsheaf Lane that was the last inn when leaving the Philadelphia area. Washington stayed here at times. Unfortunately, it had been added to so many times over the centuries that it had no historical value. It was torn down a few years back to make room for new housing that was never built.
The old "God is Satan" hogwash. Instead of wasting your brain trying to figure out deceptive mess ask Jesus to come into your life, the gift of the Holy Spirit,which is the spirit of complete truth,will take the scales away from your eyes ao you can see whats really going on. Right now it is like you are wearing dark tinted shades, "seeing through a glass darkened".
“Modern studies refute Hapgood’s theory that such a shift could have taken place within thousands of years, but they show that it could have happened within millions of years.”
Total BS. No modern studies have “refuted” anything, but merely have substituted one opinion based on some facts, with other opinions based on no facts.
I challenge anyone to show how the Antarctic ice formed by “climate change.” Show me the math of snowfall creating miles thick ice.
The ice could not have formed through any mechanism known to us on the earth today. No natural phenomenon known to us today could have created miles thick ice, no matter how many millions of years given for the task.
If you look at images of the maximum extent of the northern and southern ice sheets and compare them to a map of the earth’s geomagnetic poles, you will see the ice covered the same area as the geomagnetic poles.
While this doesn’t prove anything, it suggests a correlation between the magnetic poles and the ice. The catastrohist Donald Patten argued that the ice formed during a close encounter with Mars as massive amounts of water from Mars rained down on the earth, following the magnetic lines of the poles.
Although Patten referred to himself as a “creationist,” his books have no creation in them from the Biblical sense of God making everything, but rather consist of detailed analysis of facts. He argues that many of the descriptions of catastrophes in the Bible described actual catastrophic events caused by close encounters with Mars.
The philologist Cyrus Gordon wrote several books about ancient Near Eastern voyages to the Americas. Although his books didn't cover this bowl, they did discuss other writings found in South and North America that remained in dispute for a very long time.
But recent discoveries in ancient literature have verified their authenticity, as Gordon showed in Riddles in History. Many of the ancient writings had ancient riddles buried inside the text, and when they re-examined the disputed texts founds in the Americas, they found these too had the hidden riddles no forger could have known about 100 years ago.
I wonder if these text has a hidden riddle, such as the author's religion and devotion?
If you install the Adblock browser extension (not Adblock Plus), you can block any page element you find unsightly (including for subsequent browsing sessions). I agree that the AO site has too many bells and whistles these days.
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