People leave trash behind, though, especially around dwellings. That there's no broken bits of stuff suggests it was either unoccupied, or only used by people with very minimal possessions.
As I noted elsewhere, it may have been built in response to a threat that ended about the time it was completed.
It does roughly match with the beginning Medieval Warm Period.
It's also possible it was built against a threat that then went away--invading ruler died, etc. Scandinavia has hill forts that were in use for less than half a century.
The first written account of ANY kind from the town dates from a whole century later. The fact that there is no written record of the event in a town that did not keep written records is totally unremarkable.
That is a bad analysis. For folktales in which children are harmed and adults are punished, see for example Aarne-Thompson type 720: "my mother slew me, my father ate me", most famously seen in The Juniper Tree.
musical styles varied widely, particularly folk music - not a lot of it has survived because it wasn't recorded in formal books like "classical" music, but enough that we know it was widespread and extremely popular.
having words with more than one meaning is universal to language. You are also referring to "connotations", not actually more meanings. german has only about 20% of its words with more than one sense, whereas all words everywhere have connotations that do not translate exactly.
music is not music. firstly because there are high-pitched frequencies that adults cannot hear, secondly because the child brain is highly distinct from the adult brain and more or less sensitive to a huge variety of different stimuli from complex ones like faces to simple ones like light.
so basically there is a lot more going on here than you are informed of, but only because you are pretty uninformed.
The writer's final remark discredits him and what he has to say earlier. How can he be sure about this?
Second, I do hope the writers of this ancient script knew when a sentence was over: "The Dispilio tablet was one of many artefacts that were found in the area, however the importance of the table lies in the fact that it has an unknown written text on it that goes back further than 5,000 BC."
Accounting.
The symbols are for accounting purposes. As soon as people stopped being hunter-getherers settled and started farming they needed logistics managements and some sort of IOU system.
All the other stuff: religion, epic stories came later. That was the oral tradition.
Discard all the moronic comments below the site attracts as many nutters whom do a dis-service to appreciation of real archaeology.
Loved the book "Born in Blood". It proposes that the original
masonic order were the banished Knights Templar themselves,
now underground, enshrouding their meetings and activities with
cryptic rituals and secret passwords and gestures, many still
used today, but with their original purpose long forgotten, lost
in the mists of time.
time.
The letters are very much like Phoenicians, they were the first to write as far as we know. I am not sure whether the dating is accurate, the article mention C12 method , not sure what does that mean but carbon dating methods has proven to be far from accurate, it usually indicate the 5000 years margin.
All true, but get this....I posted the information about the DNA testing release on the Peruvian skulls on GRAHAM HANCOCK'S Facebook page, and he put it down saying it was unconvincing. I don't know exactly how much convincing he needs beyond the obvious humanoid nature of the skulls and the DNA results that back that up. It surprised me for a man academia has panned forever for his theories and who has resisted that. When I posted more information from another site, Graham deleted my posts. Would we call this censorship???
Perhaps one should not be such a stick in the mud and belittle others opinions. Archaeologists of repute??? Their story is as it always has been and always will be and anyone who says differently will be shunned and kicked out of the club. I’ve seen reputations ruined because someone dared to make a discovery that doesn’t fit into their neat little box. Do you realy think they will even allow it into a scientific journal? Not a chance. Either it’s a bound head or a birth defect period. That’s what they have said for years and the evidence will be dismissed as contaminated. That’s the way they think and act.
The real terrain image here, is also on the LIDAR image.
If you look at the bottom of the LIDAR image, where there is a larger Bay that is covering a slightly smaller Bay -- those are the main and secondary forest-covered Bays in the real terrain image.
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People leave trash behind, though, especially around dwellings. That there's no broken bits of stuff suggests it was either unoccupied, or only used by people with very minimal possessions.
As I noted elsewhere, it may have been built in response to a threat that ended about the time it was completed.
It does roughly match with the beginning Medieval Warm Period.
It's also possible it was built against a threat that then went away--invading ruler died, etc. Scandinavia has hill forts that were in use for less than half a century.
The first written account of ANY kind from the town dates from a whole century later. The fact that there is no written record of the event in a town that did not keep written records is totally unremarkable.
That is a bad analysis. For folktales in which children are harmed and adults are punished, see for example Aarne-Thompson type 720: "my mother slew me, my father ate me", most famously seen in The Juniper Tree.
none of what you just said is true.
musical styles varied widely, particularly folk music - not a lot of it has survived because it wasn't recorded in formal books like "classical" music, but enough that we know it was widespread and extremely popular.
having words with more than one meaning is universal to language. You are also referring to "connotations", not actually more meanings. german has only about 20% of its words with more than one sense, whereas all words everywhere have connotations that do not translate exactly.
music is not music. firstly because there are high-pitched frequencies that adults cannot hear, secondly because the child brain is highly distinct from the adult brain and more or less sensitive to a huge variety of different stimuli from complex ones like faces to simple ones like light.
so basically there is a lot more going on here than you are informed of, but only because you are pretty uninformed.
Whenever 3400 years ago comes up we should consider the eruption of Santorini.
Two things.
The writer's final remark discredits him and what he has to say earlier. How can he be sure about this?
Second, I do hope the writers of this ancient script knew when a sentence was over: "The Dispilio tablet was one of many artefacts that were found in the area, however the importance of the table lies in the fact that it has an unknown written text on it that goes back further than 5,000 BC."
Accounting.
The symbols are for accounting purposes. As soon as people stopped being hunter-getherers settled and started farming they needed logistics managements and some sort of IOU system.
All the other stuff: religion, epic stories came later. That was the oral tradition.
Discard all the moronic comments below the site attracts as many nutters whom do a dis-service to appreciation of real archaeology.
Hey Jo. We don’t have access to more photos. Sorry.
Mark Miller
Loved the book "Born in Blood". It proposes that the original
masonic order were the banished Knights Templar themselves,
now underground, enshrouding their meetings and activities with
cryptic rituals and secret passwords and gestures, many still
used today, but with their original purpose long forgotten, lost
in the mists of time.
time.
archeology is awesome, please provide, post many pics for those Interested, who cannot be there.
publisher and date of publishmanet
The letters are very much like Phoenicians, they were the first to write as far as we know. I am not sure whether the dating is accurate, the article mention C12 method , not sure what does that mean but carbon dating methods has proven to be far from accurate, it usually indicate the 5000 years margin.
I'm sorry to say I have to agree. I expected more.
“When I posted more information from another site, Graham deleted my posts. Would we call this censorship???”
I would. GH has contributed a lot to his field and is certainly deserving of respect, but IMO he does occasionally dabble in absurdity.Nice to see the screen capture of A Canterbury Tale, thats where I first heard of these hands of glory, from that very film :D
All true, but get this....I posted the information about the DNA testing release on the Peruvian skulls on GRAHAM HANCOCK'S Facebook page, and he put it down saying it was unconvincing. I don't know exactly how much convincing he needs beyond the obvious humanoid nature of the skulls and the DNA results that back that up. It surprised me for a man academia has panned forever for his theories and who has resisted that. When I posted more information from another site, Graham deleted my posts. Would we call this censorship???
Perhaps one should not be such a stick in the mud and belittle others opinions. Archaeologists of repute??? Their story is as it always has been and always will be and anyone who says differently will be shunned and kicked out of the club. I’ve seen reputations ruined because someone dared to make a discovery that doesn’t fit into their neat little box. Do you realy think they will even allow it into a scientific journal? Not a chance. Either it’s a bound head or a birth defect period. That’s what they have said for years and the evidence will be dismissed as contaminated. That’s the way they think and act.
Saw this in Whitby Museum not so long ago. Quite gruesome and macabre – a real “horrible history” relic.
Interesting article – many thanks!
The real terrain image here, is also on the LIDAR image.
If you look at the bottom of the LIDAR image, where there is a larger Bay that is covering a slightly smaller Bay -- those are the main and secondary forest-covered Bays in the real terrain image.
Ralph
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