As I have learned, Cleopatra was not 'a great beauty' to behold. She was very well educated, very intelligent and clever. Armed with those main characteristics, that is what made her attractive to the well educated, intelligent and clever Roman rulers. She could converse on their level and keep them interested. Cleopatra was their equal. Who else would a ruler take as his wife by his side; a stable full of concubines if he wished? The tales of her physical beauty are just that, brought down through the ages. Her 'beauty' was in her wiles, personality and intelligence. I question the tales of the beauty of Helen of Troy and her war causing abilities too. It has been repeated so much it has great potential to have little fact woven into a lot of fanciful story telling.
Jack, I can understand that you might be put off on this topic, but there are plenty of other things on this site to read about. No one is forcing you to read, or believe in this particular subject.
That being said, there are too many stories, accounts and/or pictures from the past that point to this being factual. As the saying goes, 'History is made by those who have conquered. There seems to be a concerted effort to keep evidence of this from the publics eye. This, coupled with the lack of interest by the masses, makes it far easier to cover up, and never come to light.
Then, when you only see it come out on the History channel as a show, or on here in articles, it becomes much less credible. It is either the Museum of Natural History or the Smithsonian, (I cannot remember which) who have had the bones, and they have mysteriously disappeared. Scientists have come forward in the past, and have said as much.
I am not saying that there isn't a chance this is a false or faked story, but there is too much evidence to dismiss it completely.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that SLAVES are not treated fairly I'm pretty sure that a white slave was treated just as badly..
That's kind of the point of being A SLAVE is that you are stripped of you're identity and I'm pretty sure that BEING SOMEONE PROPERTY is degrading no matter what skin color you are...
literally the only reason you said that is because you're bias toward whites..
In a long letter to his patron (almost wholly filled with more important information), Corsali made an off-hand reference to Leonardo while describing followers of Hinduism:
"Alcuni gentili chiamati Guzzarati non si cibano dicosa alcuna che tenga sangue, ne fra essi loro consentono che si noccia adalcuna cosa animata, come it nostro Leonardo da Vinci."
In English:
"Certain infidels called Guzzarati are so gentle that they do not feed on anything which has blood, nor will they allow anyone to hurt any living thing, like our Leonardo da Vinci."
Ancestor's of your own culture / race may also have been involved in things that might be considered equally as terrible by todays standards. Just because those people engaged in those practices back then doesn't mean that their descendents of today would be too.
Hey Jason. Scanning has been done actually - on the sphinx and the pyramids anyway. This is how geologists discovered the tunnel complex that ruins beneath the pyramids, natural or man-made is a point of conjecture. I think it's a bit of both. There is also a room deep under the Sphinx that geologists found ages ago but have been denied permission to excavate by the one and only 'Dr.' Hawass. Who knows what's inside that room/box. Probably a time capsule similar to Gobekli Tepi so I'm not surprised Hawass and his cronies don't want it exposed to the world. They are hell bent on sustaining their warped version of Egypt's history to the grave and beyond.
It would be great if more scanning could be done in other regions though. I would expect we would discover more sites inundated with sand or mud. Who knows what's hidden under the sands of Egpyt; and the Sahara for that matter.
Hopefully, in time, we can change things for the better and remove these egotistical baffoons who call themselves experts in Egyptology and get a real account of history happening.
You know, I come to this site because it is one of the few sites that approaches Archaeology in a professional manner. But between Giants and Anti-matter Entities I think it's time I moved on. I'd go to Message from Eagle if I wanted woo.
Astrophysics generally discounts the possibility of widespread occurrence of antimatter in the universe as it would be expected to interact with ordinary matter, leading to large fluxes of gamma rays which would be easily detectable, and is not detected at all. Thus, the announcement the Dr Santilli had succeeded caught my attention. He presents his (copious) findings on the website of the Santilli Foundation (www.santilli-foundation.org). Checking possible references on Google Scholar, the first (and only) announcement of antimatter detection using Santilli’s apparatus is:
Preliminary confirmations of antimatter detection via Santilli's telescope with concave Lenses
By PM Bhujbal, JV Kadeisvili, A Nas, S Randall & T. R. Shelke. Checking the academic credentials of the authors, I find that two are from small, presumably non-research, Indian institutions, one is from Night Fox Productions, a Florida based wedding video company, one from the Institute for Basic Research (www.i-b-r.org) which exists to support Dr Santilli’s research and one from Thunder Energies Corporation. Since the bio states that ‘Currently, Dr. Santilli is the Chairman of the Board and Head Scientist of the new publicly traded company, Thunder Energies Corporation’ it seems that none of the authors have the scientific training needed to conduct what must be a difficult study.
This paper purports to have been published in CLIFFORD ANALYSIS, CLIFFORD ALGEBRAS AND THEIR APPLICATIONS (to give it its correct title) at www.cliffordanalysis.com . But in their paper, the ‘ff’ of this url is replaced by an applet causing to a redirect to the Santilli Foundation. I find this behaviour impossible to understand and makes me suspicious of the motives of this group. By claiming to publish in a well established journal, it gives the claim spurious support, which cannot be substantiated.
The paper itself is appallingly written, by a group who are astronomically illiterate. The repeated claim to have photographed the ‘Epsilon Alpha and Beta region of the night sky’ means nothing at all (these Greek letters are sued to designate bright stars in constellations, but since no further information is forthcoming, on their own these statement is meaningless). Further, they claim to have photographed ‘antimatter galaxies, asteroids and cosmic rays’. No competent astronomer could write such a thing as these three classes of astronomical objects have very different characteristics and cosmic rays are not detectable using imaged light. Moreover, they claim to be using only a 55mm lens with a 15 minute exposure, which is inadequate for the observations they claim to make.
The thing to realise is that whatever the primary optics of this telescope might be doing, the important thing is the detector. What is it? A photograph? Solid state? We are not told, but must presume that these will be using lenses working assuming the usual laws of optics. If his ‘antimatter light’ needs special optics to collect the light, why would a normal detector be expected to work for it? We are presented with a
series of images from this device. What are they supposed to show? There is no scale to show how much of the sky is photographed and no indication of what the contours of the detection mean. Given that these authors claim to have chosen an observing site in Sebring, Florida chose ‘for the clarity of the sky due to the absence of nearby large cities’, but then indicate they observed from a hotel window in the middle of a holiday resort. I can only think they are detecting stray light reflected into the optics. There is absolutely no analysis of the images which can be considered competent.
In short, the claim made has not been substantiated in their publications, dodgy practices worthy of scammers are used to further their aims and no independent verification of the claims has been made. All in all: a very poor effort. A lot more work, of competent standard will have to be done to convince anyone that these claims are true.
Those Conquistadors and the churchmen who sailed with them were bad news. Some historians say it wasn't western diseases which killed so many indigenous people because they had those diseases too. Most died at the hands of brutal soldiers who killed for treasure, while the equally brutal church killed many more "to save the souls of heathens who wouldn't convert". Anything else is rewriting history.
Very confused and almost illiterate about the regrettable behavior of the humans called : Capitalism.
How could you explain to us the direct link between the money and the intelligence that produced so many discovery.
It is the same paradox ; who was the first !? the egg or the chicken !!??
When intelligence was produced by money !!??
What the Capitalism could do with money it is just to be able to fake the Moon landing. Or to make from everything a weapon of mass-destruction
All crime of history were made possible only because the motor of Capitalism: the Bankism and the Banksters !
This is not how it works... really look it up. Concave lenses wold have the focal point on the other side.
Physics is dead :( (antimatter light :)))...nice)
Queen Cleopatra was well educated and clever; she spoke various languages and served as the dominant ruler in all three of her co-regencies. Cleopatra ruled Egypt along side with her brother Ptolemy XIII when she was 18 years old.
Cleopatra brought the Egyptian and Roman empires together through her relationship with Mark Antony. This love affair has captured the hearts of people throughout history and continues to intrigue us today. Many Cleopatra facts relate to her ability to use her great beauty to achieve what she wanted.
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As I have learned, Cleopatra was not 'a great beauty' to behold. She was very well educated, very intelligent and clever. Armed with those main characteristics, that is what made her attractive to the well educated, intelligent and clever Roman rulers. She could converse on their level and keep them interested. Cleopatra was their equal. Who else would a ruler take as his wife by his side; a stable full of concubines if he wished? The tales of her physical beauty are just that, brought down through the ages. Her 'beauty' was in her wiles, personality and intelligence. I question the tales of the beauty of Helen of Troy and her war causing abilities too. It has been repeated so much it has great potential to have little fact woven into a lot of fanciful story telling.
I wonder if Palestinians celebrate an "Invasion Day"...just so no one ever forgets. Sound familiar?
I have visited many museums in Europe with Roman artefacts and this sword is in a remarkable state of preservation considering its supposed age.
Jack, I can understand that you might be put off on this topic, but there are plenty of other things on this site to read about. No one is forcing you to read, or believe in this particular subject.
That being said, there are too many stories, accounts and/or pictures from the past that point to this being factual. As the saying goes, 'History is made by those who have conquered. There seems to be a concerted effort to keep evidence of this from the publics eye. This, coupled with the lack of interest by the masses, makes it far easier to cover up, and never come to light.
Then, when you only see it come out on the History channel as a show, or on here in articles, it becomes much less credible. It is either the Museum of Natural History or the Smithsonian, (I cannot remember which) who have had the bones, and they have mysteriously disappeared. Scientists have come forward in the past, and have said as much.
I am not saying that there isn't a chance this is a false or faked story, but there is too much evidence to dismiss it completely.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that SLAVES are not treated fairly I'm pretty sure that a white slave was treated just as badly..
That's kind of the point of being A SLAVE is that you are stripped of you're identity and I'm pretty sure that BEING SOMEONE PROPERTY is degrading no matter what skin color you are...
literally the only reason you said that is because you're bias toward whites..
very interested
In a long letter to his patron (almost wholly filled with more important information), Corsali made an off-hand reference to Leonardo while describing followers of Hinduism:
"Alcuni gentili chiamati Guzzarati non si cibano dicosa alcuna che tenga sangue, ne fra essi loro consentono che si noccia adalcuna cosa animata, come it nostro Leonardo da Vinci."
In English:
"Certain infidels called Guzzarati are so gentle that they do not feed on anything which has blood, nor will they allow anyone to hurt any living thing, like our Leonardo da Vinci."
Ancestor's of your own culture / race may also have been involved in things that might be considered equally as terrible by todays standards. Just because those people engaged in those practices back then doesn't mean that their descendents of today would be too.
Hey Jason. Scanning has been done actually - on the sphinx and the pyramids anyway. This is how geologists discovered the tunnel complex that ruins beneath the pyramids, natural or man-made is a point of conjecture. I think it's a bit of both. There is also a room deep under the Sphinx that geologists found ages ago but have been denied permission to excavate by the one and only 'Dr.' Hawass. Who knows what's inside that room/box. Probably a time capsule similar to Gobekli Tepi so I'm not surprised Hawass and his cronies don't want it exposed to the world. They are hell bent on sustaining their warped version of Egypt's history to the grave and beyond.
It would be great if more scanning could be done in other regions though. I would expect we would discover more sites inundated with sand or mud. Who knows what's hidden under the sands of Egpyt; and the Sahara for that matter.
Hopefully, in time, we can change things for the better and remove these egotistical baffoons who call themselves experts in Egyptology and get a real account of history happening.
You're welcome. It was too good to be true.
You know, I come to this site because it is one of the few sites that approaches Archaeology in a professional manner. But between Giants and Anti-matter Entities I think it's time I moved on. I'd go to Message from Eagle if I wanted woo.
Excellent job! You really did your homework. I thought it was a fast announcement of something too good to be true. Thanks!
Astrophysics generally discounts the possibility of widespread occurrence of antimatter in the universe as it would be expected to interact with ordinary matter, leading to large fluxes of gamma rays which would be easily detectable, and is not detected at all. Thus, the announcement the Dr Santilli had succeeded caught my attention. He presents his (copious) findings on the website of the Santilli Foundation (www.santilli-foundation.org). Checking possible references on Google Scholar, the first (and only) announcement of antimatter detection using Santilli’s apparatus is:
Preliminary confirmations of antimatter detection via Santilli's telescope with concave Lenses
By PM Bhujbal, JV Kadeisvili, A Nas, S Randall & T. R. Shelke. Checking the academic credentials of the authors, I find that two are from small, presumably non-research, Indian institutions, one is from Night Fox Productions, a Florida based wedding video company, one from the Institute for Basic Research (www.i-b-r.org) which exists to support Dr Santilli’s research and one from Thunder Energies Corporation. Since the bio states that ‘Currently, Dr. Santilli is the Chairman of the Board and Head Scientist of the new publicly traded company, Thunder Energies Corporation’ it seems that none of the authors have the scientific training needed to conduct what must be a difficult study.
This paper purports to have been published in CLIFFORD ANALYSIS, CLIFFORD ALGEBRAS AND THEIR APPLICATIONS (to give it its correct title) at www.cliffordanalysis.com . But in their paper, the ‘ff’ of this url is replaced by an applet causing to a redirect to the Santilli Foundation. I find this behaviour impossible to understand and makes me suspicious of the motives of this group. By claiming to publish in a well established journal, it gives the claim spurious support, which cannot be substantiated.
The paper itself is appallingly written, by a group who are astronomically illiterate. The repeated claim to have photographed the ‘Epsilon Alpha and Beta region of the night sky’ means nothing at all (these Greek letters are sued to designate bright stars in constellations, but since no further information is forthcoming, on their own these statement is meaningless). Further, they claim to have photographed ‘antimatter galaxies, asteroids and cosmic rays’. No competent astronomer could write such a thing as these three classes of astronomical objects have very different characteristics and cosmic rays are not detectable using imaged light. Moreover, they claim to be using only a 55mm lens with a 15 minute exposure, which is inadequate for the observations they claim to make.
The thing to realise is that whatever the primary optics of this telescope might be doing, the important thing is the detector. What is it? A photograph? Solid state? We are not told, but must presume that these will be using lenses working assuming the usual laws of optics. If his ‘antimatter light’ needs special optics to collect the light, why would a normal detector be expected to work for it? We are presented with a
series of images from this device. What are they supposed to show? There is no scale to show how much of the sky is photographed and no indication of what the contours of the detection mean. Given that these authors claim to have chosen an observing site in Sebring, Florida chose ‘for the clarity of the sky due to the absence of nearby large cities’, but then indicate they observed from a hotel window in the middle of a holiday resort. I can only think they are detecting stray light reflected into the optics. There is absolutely no analysis of the images which can be considered competent.
In short, the claim made has not been substantiated in their publications, dodgy practices worthy of scammers are used to further their aims and no independent verification of the claims has been made. All in all: a very poor effort. A lot more work, of competent standard will have to be done to convince anyone that these claims are true.
I believe something was lost in translation - he was actually using a kaleidoscope.
Those Conquistadors and the churchmen who sailed with them were bad news. Some historians say it wasn't western diseases which killed so many indigenous people because they had those diseases too. Most died at the hands of brutal soldiers who killed for treasure, while the equally brutal church killed many more "to save the souls of heathens who wouldn't convert". Anything else is rewriting history.
Very confused and almost illiterate about the regrettable behavior of the humans called : Capitalism.
How could you explain to us the direct link between the money and the intelligence that produced so many discovery.
It is the same paradox ; who was the first !? the egg or the chicken !!??
When intelligence was produced by money !!??
What the Capitalism could do with money it is just to be able to fake the Moon landing. Or to make from everything a weapon of mass-destruction
All crime of history were made possible only because the motor of Capitalism: the Bankism and the Banksters !
This is not how it works... really look it up. Concave lenses wold have the focal point on the other side.
Physics is dead :( (antimatter light :)))...nice)
That was painfully convoluted. Besides the usual "woman=bad" theme common in a lot of folklore, what was that story trying to teach?
Queen Cleopatra was well educated and clever; she spoke various languages and served as the dominant ruler in all three of her co-regencies. Cleopatra ruled Egypt along side with her brother Ptolemy XIII when she was 18 years old.
Cleopatra brought the Egyptian and Roman empires together through her relationship with Mark Antony. This love affair has captured the hearts of people throughout history and continues to intrigue us today. Many Cleopatra facts relate to her ability to use her great beauty to achieve what she wanted.
so then ... did cortez do a good thing in wiping out that psychotic civilization?
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