I totally agree with you - I've never thought of these Goddess figures as representing a woman looking down at her body, but it totally works! Thanks for posting that :D
When ritual objects like this are found that are PHALLIC in nature, no one says they must be dolls or porn figures. Funny that.
Goddess fertility figures used in ritual - not totally proven but OMG so much more likely than anything else. And you know what? That's EXACTLY how modern Pagans use them today.
Actually Urartu is the ancient region or kingdom known as Urartu Ararat. Its a stand in for Armenia, because in the 19th century when this map was discovered. Archaeologists discovered that "Urartu" was the Babylonian term for Armenia. When this map was discovered historians put it all together. This map was one of the greatest discoveries in modern times.
Tsurugi. Peace. “ It does not seem to appear in nature”. Perhaps, maybe we just are not looking for it or living it. Being bothered and distracted with what I refer to as the “ I want syndrome”
.
Just how are we to define peace?
I have always liked the opening scenes or “2001 a Space Odyessey.” Where ‘something’ happens in that ‘aggression’ (natural) is transformed into ‘violence’(not natural – my thought).
Humans appear to be the only creatures on earth that consciously commits acts of violence upon their fellows for what ever reason. The strange thing about us humans is we seem to be able to rationalize there by justifying any of our behaviour.
Perhaps peace is what we are all looking for, but just don’t know how to get there. An inability to make a conscious decision to participate and manifest it.
Being that ‘what we call consciousness’ is still being hotly debates as to ‘what is it?, when and where did it start?’. Maybe it’is just a figment of our imagination. But as Einstein once said, “Imagination is more important then knowledge.”
Perhaps we can never attain it but does this mean we should not try.
If there is a question as to whether or not it can exist, perhaps the answer is so simple that it is our human EGO that just can’t accept the simplicity of the answer.
All it requires is the individual to make a ‘conscious’ decision,
“ I shall not kill or commit an act of violence today”
.
Perhaps it is a concept, an idea that requires an environment to be created, allowed to manifest, something that requires to be nurtured.
Not wanting to sound or wish to be disrespectful but I couldn’t help but notice your name. It translates into English as ‘sword,’ doesn’t it. A weapon of war, designed to kill one’s enemy.
It could be that peace starts with just that little nudge,that thought- ‘today I wish/desire to live in peace’, that resides in each of us.
At least so I have made the conscious decision to believe in.
The Egyptians used stories to tell astronomical events that happened in the heavens. In some stories the moon was male in others it was femanine. The Greeks barrowed the stories from the Egyptians and the Romans from the Greeks and Egyptians, each changing the names of the characters but the story essentially stayed the same. The Brothers Grimm just continued that process of stealing the story but changing the names.
However... just like our ancestors, we are still having a problem keeping the CREATOR GOD. separate from his Angelic Beings, Human Beings and the Beings we call Aliens. WHEN mankind can get these separated in their minds, and realize they are ALL REAL... but each exist for different reasons.... THEN we can more easily determine what LIFE is all about. I totally agree with A LOT of what you said about us being ENERGY... SOULS.... that have a little voice to remind us what is right and wrong. WE ALL came from CREATOR GOD.... we just happen to live in different places.I have an ebook on Amazon explaining my thoughts on this if anyone is interested... Thousands of people are asking the same questions, see if your answer is here http://amzn.to/1XBHgBV
Have you tried KDP.amazon.com .... thats where I wrote my book,, then I made it available in print on Createspace ... also with amazon.... they put it for sale on their site...
It's an interesting idea. Connecting Snow White with Nut and all. You have a problem though, Though Egypt has many moon deities-Like Isis, Thoth, etc.- The moon itself is masculine in Egypt myth. It's a guy named Iah, or Khonsu in the new kingdom. You can look it up if you don't believe me. But all you will come up with is a guy. I think that if you try to make snow white a guy it kind of changes the story.
Also, Orion was called Orion by both the Greeks and the Romans. Mithra was from Persia -and didn't get popular until AD, Egypt and Greece had long been taken by Rome. I assume this origin story of Nut takes place long, long in the BC. Long before Mithra had any place in Greece or Egypt-. And the only connection I can find between Orion and Mithra was a book published in 1980 by Speidel. If anything, Mithra seems to be more mixed up with modern Jesus then to have anything to do with ancient Greece, or ancient Egypt for that matter.
I'll be curious what your next story has to offer. Your ideas are not bad though they seem to be stretching things a bit, at least they make a person think as well as research and say 'did that really happen?'. So it was a good story.
Reminiscent of raccoon "hands". Some raccoons can grow large enough to have hands the size of a newborn, complete with thumbs, yet the thumb is set a bit more to the side, and the central digits are usually longer. Raccoons are also kept as pets by some people.
It seems that we learn so much everyday, but the sad thing is how little is being done to help preserve our great ape cousins. I'm not entirely sure what the solution here is.
Astrology as the root of many folklore and gospel tales also fits with the claim of a Jewish rabbi - I forget his name and his book title - who said most if not all bible tales can be explained by astrology.
He said the story of Samson and Delilah fits perfectly with the constellations of Leo and its opposite in the zodiac, Aquarius. Leo is where the idea of Samson killing a lion and his hair flowing hair like a mane comes from. This prominent constellation is the reason why lions are associated with royalty, and its bright star Regulus is the root of the word regal. When Samson first saw Delilah she was carrying water; Aquarius has few bright stars and in mythology is considered lacking, [of scruples etc].
"Husheng" is Hui Sheng, a Buddhist monk that visited Persia and their enemy the Hepthalites aka the White Huns. He traveled with Sung Yun. 570 A.D. The White Huns are the Tocharian Yues.
I always thought humanity must be a lot older than anthropologists believe. To say modern man appeared 80,000 or so years ago seems too recent and I think half a million to a million years ago is more likely. Evolution couldn't have changed us from ape-man to modern man in such a short time, surely? In that time it could doubtless change skin color, muscle build, height etc, but not our whole form.
One has to watch the video closely to get an idea as to what's going on (and it's unlikely to be religious ritual without additonal evidence - lots!). One has to look at the relative sizes of the chimps hurling massive stones at the trees, and those that are picking up smaller ones and stacking them safely away in the hollow trunk.
These are little more than snapshots of course, and one needs the stats to obtain a more reliable picture. Some are shown as a handy diagram in this link:
It makes mention of pant hoots, swaying, bipedal stance, piloerection...
Why reject the idea that one is simply seeing the stone ritual being a way of asserting dominance or submission in what is otherwise a limited and cramping environment?
The largest dominant male kicks off the ritual by showing he's capable of picking up the largest rocks, hurling them against the tree to make a loud noise. He's basically saying: "watch out, or you may be my next target - maybe with smaller rocks". The smaller, younger chimps do indeed realize that the real threat to them is not from the largest rocks, but the smaller ones that can be hurled at them faster before they have time to take avoiding action. So what do they do? They gather them up and put them into the hollow, signalling to Mr.Big that they have got his message, and have sufficient intelligence to understand the threat posed to them by the SMALLER rocks.
Any takers for that? Or will the Gideon Society shortly be heading off soon to Africa, leaving bibles not just in hotel bedrooms, but hollow trunks of savannah trees?
happens quite regularly lately.. some of these articles are basically fiction dressed up as history. pick a subject out of thin air and these so called authors can spin it into a rambling load of bullshit.. I've gone from being an avid and regular visitor of this site to taking an occasional cursory glance, only to see if the quality has returned to A.O but alas.....
I see our recent past Renaissance, was done Much earlier and this text is proof of that :)
That is a serious piece of archeology :) Double Thumbs up to who found that !
Hello, why isn't the Antikythera mechanism one of the top ancient finds ?
seems it is not suppose to exist at all, so stunning; but yet it does And it is legit !
Luckily for the reader, we can see with our own eyes that the "Persian king" Husheng is actually Hu Sheng...family name "Hu". These were not "Persians". "Zoroaster" is Dhritarashtera of the Mahabharata...the blind leper king. The "Masked man" of the Chinese bronze statues shown right here at Ancient Origins..."Zorro". A man of many names...in many cultures..."Yu the Great" is another.
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I totally agree with you - I've never thought of these Goddess figures as representing a woman looking down at her body, but it totally works! Thanks for posting that :D
When ritual objects like this are found that are PHALLIC in nature, no one says they must be dolls or porn figures. Funny that.
Goddess fertility figures used in ritual - not totally proven but OMG so much more likely than anything else. And you know what? That's EXACTLY how modern Pagans use them today.
Actually Urartu is the ancient region or kingdom known as Urartu Ararat. Its a stand in for Armenia, because in the 19th century when this map was discovered. Archaeologists discovered that "Urartu" was the Babylonian term for Armenia. When this map was discovered historians put it all together. This map was one of the greatest discoveries in modern times.
Tsurugi. Peace. “ It does not seem to appear in nature”. Perhaps, maybe we just are not looking for it or living it. Being bothered and distracted with what I refer to as the “ I want syndrome”
.
Just how are we to define peace?
I have always liked the opening scenes or “2001 a Space Odyessey.” Where ‘something’ happens in that ‘aggression’ (natural) is transformed into ‘violence’(not natural – my thought).
Humans appear to be the only creatures on earth that consciously commits acts of violence upon their fellows for what ever reason. The strange thing about us humans is we seem to be able to rationalize there by justifying any of our behaviour.
Perhaps peace is what we are all looking for, but just don’t know how to get there. An inability to make a conscious decision to participate and manifest it.
Being that ‘what we call consciousness’ is still being hotly debates as to ‘what is it?, when and where did it start?’. Maybe it’is just a figment of our imagination. But as Einstein once said, “Imagination is more important then knowledge.”
Perhaps we can never attain it but does this mean we should not try.
If there is a question as to whether or not it can exist, perhaps the answer is so simple that it is our human EGO that just can’t accept the simplicity of the answer.
All it requires is the individual to make a ‘conscious’ decision,
“ I shall not kill or commit an act of violence today”
.
Perhaps it is a concept, an idea that requires an environment to be created, allowed to manifest, something that requires to be nurtured.
Not wanting to sound or wish to be disrespectful but I couldn’t help but notice your name. It translates into English as ‘sword,’ doesn’t it. A weapon of war, designed to kill one’s enemy.
It could be that peace starts with just that little nudge,that thought- ‘today I wish/desire to live in peace’, that resides in each of us.
At least so I have made the conscious decision to believe in.
The Egyptians used stories to tell astronomical events that happened in the heavens. In some stories the moon was male in others it was femanine. The Greeks barrowed the stories from the Egyptians and the Romans from the Greeks and Egyptians, each changing the names of the characters but the story essentially stayed the same. The Brothers Grimm just continued that process of stealing the story but changing the names.
This image perfectly captures the malevolence of the Grey aliens and their alliance with carnivorous reptiles and their humanoid reptilian masters.
However... just like our ancestors, we are still having a problem keeping the CREATOR GOD. separate from his Angelic Beings, Human Beings and the Beings we call Aliens. WHEN mankind can get these separated in their minds, and realize they are ALL REAL... but each exist for different reasons.... THEN we can more easily determine what LIFE is all about. I totally agree with A LOT of what you said about us being ENERGY... SOULS.... that have a little voice to remind us what is right and wrong. WE ALL came from CREATOR GOD.... we just happen to live in different places.I have an ebook on Amazon explaining my thoughts on this if anyone is interested... Thousands of people are asking the same questions, see if your answer is here http://amzn.to/1XBHgBV
Have you tried KDP.amazon.com .... thats where I wrote my book,, then I made it available in print on Createspace ... also with amazon.... they put it for sale on their site...
It's an interesting idea. Connecting Snow White with Nut and all. You have a problem though, Though Egypt has many moon deities-Like Isis, Thoth, etc.- The moon itself is masculine in Egypt myth. It's a guy named Iah, or Khonsu in the new kingdom. You can look it up if you don't believe me. But all you will come up with is a guy. I think that if you try to make snow white a guy it kind of changes the story.
Also, Orion was called Orion by both the Greeks and the Romans. Mithra was from Persia -and didn't get popular until AD, Egypt and Greece had long been taken by Rome. I assume this origin story of Nut takes place long, long in the BC. Long before Mithra had any place in Greece or Egypt-. And the only connection I can find between Orion and Mithra was a book published in 1980 by Speidel. If anything, Mithra seems to be more mixed up with modern Jesus then to have anything to do with ancient Greece, or ancient Egypt for that matter.
I'll be curious what your next story has to offer. Your ideas are not bad though they seem to be stretching things a bit, at least they make a person think as well as research and say 'did that really happen?'. So it was a good story.
Reminiscent of raccoon "hands". Some raccoons can grow large enough to have hands the size of a newborn, complete with thumbs, yet the thumb is set a bit more to the side, and the central digits are usually longer. Raccoons are also kept as pets by some people.
It seems that we learn so much everyday, but the sad thing is how little is being done to help preserve our great ape cousins. I'm not entirely sure what the solution here is.
Astrology as the root of many folklore and gospel tales also fits with the claim of a Jewish rabbi - I forget his name and his book title - who said most if not all bible tales can be explained by astrology.
He said the story of Samson and Delilah fits perfectly with the constellations of Leo and its opposite in the zodiac, Aquarius. Leo is where the idea of Samson killing a lion and his hair flowing hair like a mane comes from. This prominent constellation is the reason why lions are associated with royalty, and its bright star Regulus is the root of the word regal. When Samson first saw Delilah she was carrying water; Aquarius has few bright stars and in mythology is considered lacking, [of scruples etc].
It isn't the only one in existence. I know of someone who has one in his private collection.
"Husheng" is Hui Sheng, a Buddhist monk that visited Persia and their enemy the Hepthalites aka the White Huns. He traveled with Sung Yun. 570 A.D. The White Huns are the Tocharian Yues.
I always thought humanity must be a lot older than anthropologists believe. To say modern man appeared 80,000 or so years ago seems too recent and I think half a million to a million years ago is more likely. Evolution couldn't have changed us from ape-man to modern man in such a short time, surely? In that time it could doubtless change skin color, muscle build, height etc, but not our whole form.
One has to watch the video closely to get an idea as to what's going on (and it's unlikely to be religious ritual without additonal evidence - lots!). One has to look at the relative sizes of the chimps hurling massive stones at the trees, and those that are picking up smaller ones and stacking them safely away in the hollow trunk.
These are little more than snapshots of course, and one needs the stats to obtain a more reliable picture. Some are shown as a handy diagram in this link:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/03/04/00/31BA529300000578-3475816-Th...
It makes mention of pant hoots, swaying, bipedal stance, piloerection...
Why reject the idea that one is simply seeing the stone ritual being a way of asserting dominance or submission in what is otherwise a limited and cramping environment?
The largest dominant male kicks off the ritual by showing he's capable of picking up the largest rocks, hurling them against the tree to make a loud noise. He's basically saying: "watch out, or you may be my next target - maybe with smaller rocks". The smaller, younger chimps do indeed realize that the real threat to them is not from the largest rocks, but the smaller ones that can be hurled at them faster before they have time to take avoiding action. So what do they do? They gather them up and put them into the hollow, signalling to Mr.Big that they have got his message, and have sufficient intelligence to understand the threat posed to them by the SMALLER rocks.
Any takers for that? Or will the Gideon Society shortly be heading off soon to Africa, leaving bibles not just in hotel bedrooms, but hollow trunks of savannah trees?
happens quite regularly lately.. some of these articles are basically fiction dressed up as history. pick a subject out of thin air and these so called authors can spin it into a rambling load of bullshit.. I've gone from being an avid and regular visitor of this site to taking an occasional cursory glance, only to see if the quality has returned to A.O but alas.....
I see our recent past Renaissance, was done Much earlier and this text is proof of that :)
That is a serious piece of archeology :) Double Thumbs up to who found that !
Hello, why isn't the Antikythera mechanism one of the top ancient finds ?
seems it is not suppose to exist at all, so stunning; but yet it does And it is legit !
Luckily for the reader, we can see with our own eyes that the "Persian king" Husheng is actually Hu Sheng...family name "Hu". These were not "Persians". "Zoroaster" is Dhritarashtera of the Mahabharata...the blind leper king. The "Masked man" of the Chinese bronze statues shown right here at Ancient Origins..."Zorro". A man of many names...in many cultures..."Yu the Great" is another.
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