IMHO, the same 'water event' that created the 'Scab Lands', at the end of the last ice age also accounts for the high level of salt in this locale.
No need for some convoluted theories based on 'guess work or make work science"...in order to secure more funding for further study". The existing data does not even support this lame 'theory'.
A real scientist (a geologist, no less) accounted for 'erosion features' and salt content in the SW US about 100 years ago.
no big mystery any longer - just ignorant scientists trying to pass themselves off as still being intellectually viable....NOT!
I agree with Ken. It's possible that our geological timelines are askew and many geologic events have happened closer to our time than believed by conventional science. See the articles on the Great Salt Lake for example.
In reply to Philip Mellon, All depends upon whether one accepts the Bible or any other 'religious' book literally. The serious researcher does not. The Bible contains many references to numbers for example which are not explained and more modern interpretations of that same Bible have so many alterations of text in pointless attempts to 'make the language easy to understand ' that much of the sense of more accurate earlier translations such as the King James is lost.
For example it is very commonly stated that the flood waters of the Deluge tale covered the whole Earth...and yet it is made plain in the early versions that the water rise was fifteen cubits only. This would give the flotation point of the Ark...were it a real vessel. In fact this tale was borrowed from India and an examination of the Indian texts in parallel with the use of astronomy programs reveal that the whole flood tale was allegory for what was seen in the heavens and in this case it was the loss of a pole star. I supply abundant evidence in Deluge From Genesis to Atlantis.
In fact there are two flood tales involved in Genesis and neither can be taken at face value. Where were the 40 days and nights of rain that were so torrential that they flooded the whole Earth for which modern science can find no evidence. In fact there is a reference to 40 days and those familiar with the writings of Hesiod will be familiar with it because it refers to the loss of view of the Pleiades for that period. In point of fact the date here is as described in Genesis regarding days after the years commencement but the year is 2300BC. The year commenced at that point at the first new moon after the winter solstice which meant that the 17th day of the second month was 20 days prior to the vernal equinox and the 40 days straddled the equinox.Noah's offspring were supposed to have been involved with the build up of the Middle East but at 2300BC for the flood commencement they were more than a little late.
In point of fact he story of Noah refers to the loss the pole star Tau Hercules in the 7100BC and then the flood which was for 3800 years completed at 3300BC allowing the Noah's descendants to assist in the build up in teh Middle East. The flood era was generally seen as a canonical 3600 which applied to the previous flood between the loss of Vega and the gain of Tau in Hercules to which Plato refers in the Atlantis narrative, lato was referring in his Atlantis tale not a location on Earth but to the constellation Hercules when he stated 'beyond the pillars of Hercules' for Atlantis. This gives an era to which his '9000 years ago' applied. Both Plato and the Biblical authors utilised the same concept.
For those who scorn these explanation due to the dating involved I suggest they spend a few years making in depth investigations into Indian developments. Circa 7000BC at Mergarh which today is in Pakistan, there emerged a group who had migrated from Sundaland to escape flooding. They were building brick houses with very accurately made bricks. There are literally 100s of thousands of these bricks there for anyone to measure and confirm my assessment. The unit measures found there were in use as recently as the medieval period in Europe where the same measures can be found on cathedrals etc. Much development in India stems from this era. These folk were quite proficient mathematicians and astronomers. Again, there is plentiful evidence in the book Measurements of the Gods. This book overturns a number of long held ideas regarding the abilities of our forebears...but unlike most it supplies firm check-able evidence.
I enjoy Biblical studies but I understand what I read and see things from a different perspective to those who accept what they read literally. Much was written as allegory but that methodology is not commonplace in the modern world and we have been led away from thinking in this manner. It all stems from inventing tales as an aid to memory long before writing was invented. Hence, this being the case, ancient material can often be seen in a completely different and much more revealing manner. Again, the results are often provable as such things as reference to droughts or very cold periods are often mentioned and these can be correlated with the result of modern climate research. This is more accurate then the conventional ideas regarding Biblical studies.I respectfully suggest that Phillip Mellon reads the two works mentioned above, he will be greatly surprised and will discover a much more enlightening view of these old narratives. Harry Sivertsen
Perhaps not wise to mention this in publicity, but there is one this kind of a modern Artifact for sale at Himalaya made by an another Asian master-smith.
Both these smiths - whom I have here mentioned - can be considered "the best blade-smith in the World"... but both are always refusing that public title... - Humble, but also very practical and wise men.
very interesting article, well thought out and written then you go and ruin it all with the sky fairy, you put forward theories about coincidences and go on about fact and evidence okay so where is your Factual evidence that god exist's?
And those weapons were also sacred and magical. They were made with special - sometimes religious - rites.
The specialty of blades made from meteorite ore:
When a master-smith makes a "normal" sword - that itself being a masterpiece - from quality steel the strength of the blade will of 54, or 55 in the scale of 1-55... however; the strength of a blade made from meteorite ore is unnatural, or "heavenly" 60.
This means, that in the hand of a master sword.man these swords can literally cut straight trough metal armors and - i have heard - they can cut stones to pieces [?!]
Obviously such master soldier would have an edge against opponents having ordinary high-quality steel swords; when the duel starts, the hero just cuts the blade of his opponent to two pieces.
This is stuff told in ancient Chinese legends... but also confirmed today by many Asian martial artists plus more educated weapon-smiths.
The first Chinese Kings, or Emperors... and perhaps their major bodyguards... plus some Chinese independent, major warlords and few Chinese national-heroes have used these kind of blades as well... regarding to ancient stories and modern archaeological findings.
There is ONE master-smith at whole China and Asia, who manufactures those kind of blades still today.
This have nothing to do with ignorance, my Barbarian friend. This is a fakt. You can find tekst about this period in ancient books from all over the world, for example Persian House library in Vancouver. This subject become more recent becouse only recently people start questioning few hundret years old BS made by "Gormanic" science. Also recently on Great Lechia lands has been found lot of artefakts and graves datet few tousand years back with an ancient slavic language on it. Plus i need to add to all of this, recent genetic test confouding whats above. First Great Lechia king ruled in 1800 bc. Im not paranoid my Barbarian friend, i love history and i wont to now the truth. Give me a real example to proof it and i will accept it. Greatings from Lechia
Brad
I found your article implying the Great Salt Lake has an ocean origin intriguing but unconvincing. The primary reason for this is something you should understand-time. Estimates for when the GSL formed range from 5300 to 6500 years ago and salts have been carried into the lake all these centuries so comparing the salt content of the Jordan and other tributaries to that in the lake is superfluous unless you use time, volume and cumulative salt loading. Also, there is Seville lake, another remnant of Lake Bonneville, nearby which has only about 86,000 ppm of salt but is also an endorheic lake but drains a minute area and, thus, has a much lower salinity. If the ocean was the source of the salts, I would expect this remnant to be closer to the GSL in salt content. Finally, there is the issue of the means by which ocean waters could penetrate into the interior of the North American continent and I don't consider Noah's flood a valid scientific argument.
I'm wondering how Statilius Taurus managed to be a consul in 41 AD, and then manage to go back to 51 BC to become proconsul of Africa...
'Even though Statilius Taurus was a consul or chief magistrate of Rome in 41 AD and then proconsul of Africa from 51 to 53 BC, his money and power were not enough to save him.'
Geologists say that before 65 million years ago, the whole area was submerged under several hundred feet of water. This body of water, called the Western Interior Seaway, extended all the way from the Hudson Bay in the North and Canada to the south, and cut the North American continent in half. When this waterway receded, it must have left behind a large amount of salts. It's possible that the salts that are dissolved in the Great Salt Lake originate from these salts that were laid down 65+ million years, I suppose. The problem with is hypothesis is that 65 million years is a long time, and over that time, additional sediments of sufficient thickness should have covered the original salt beds that were laid down so that they couldn't really be redissolved into the Great Salt Lake when it formed much later.
Yeah, the salt levels are rising because there's no outlet. If the Great Salt Lake had an outlet, it would be carrying not just water with it, but the dissolved salts also out of the lake.
Very interesting theory. I wonder if the land around the lake was once lower and closer to the sea. It could have been flooded often by the sea, thus leaving the salt behind? Reminds me of the Dead Sea. Are the salt levels rising because there is no outlet. If not, where is the salt going?
Thanks for the comment! I was trying to figure out why some lakes are fresh and some are salty if a flood covered the whole area, and it seems like you've answered that question for me.
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Looking forward to the info.
Add in that they claim the site is 7000 years old, when in fact it is dated at 5316 BCE.
IMHO, the same 'water event' that created the 'Scab Lands', at the end of the last ice age also accounts for the high level of salt in this locale.
No need for some convoluted theories based on 'guess work or make work science"...in order to secure more funding for further study". The existing data does not even support this lame 'theory'.
A real scientist (a geologist, no less) accounted for 'erosion features' and salt content in the SW US about 100 years ago.
no big mystery any longer - just ignorant scientists trying to pass themselves off as still being intellectually viable....NOT!
I agree with Ken. It's possible that our geological timelines are askew and many geologic events have happened closer to our time than believed by conventional science. See the articles on the Great Salt Lake for example.
In reply to Philip Mellon, All depends upon whether one accepts the Bible or any other 'religious' book literally. The serious researcher does not. The Bible contains many references to numbers for example which are not explained and more modern interpretations of that same Bible have so many alterations of text in pointless attempts to 'make the language easy to understand ' that much of the sense of more accurate earlier translations such as the King James is lost.
For example it is very commonly stated that the flood waters of the Deluge tale covered the whole Earth...and yet it is made plain in the early versions that the water rise was fifteen cubits only. This would give the flotation point of the Ark...were it a real vessel. In fact this tale was borrowed from India and an examination of the Indian texts in parallel with the use of astronomy programs reveal that the whole flood tale was allegory for what was seen in the heavens and in this case it was the loss of a pole star. I supply abundant evidence in Deluge From Genesis to Atlantis.
In fact there are two flood tales involved in Genesis and neither can be taken at face value. Where were the 40 days and nights of rain that were so torrential that they flooded the whole Earth for which modern science can find no evidence. In fact there is a reference to 40 days and those familiar with the writings of Hesiod will be familiar with it because it refers to the loss of view of the Pleiades for that period. In point of fact the date here is as described in Genesis regarding days after the years commencement but the year is 2300BC. The year commenced at that point at the first new moon after the winter solstice which meant that the 17th day of the second month was 20 days prior to the vernal equinox and the 40 days straddled the equinox.Noah's offspring were supposed to have been involved with the build up of the Middle East but at 2300BC for the flood commencement they were more than a little late.
In point of fact he story of Noah refers to the loss the pole star Tau Hercules in the 7100BC and then the flood which was for 3800 years completed at 3300BC allowing the Noah's descendants to assist in the build up in teh Middle East. The flood era was generally seen as a canonical 3600 which applied to the previous flood between the loss of Vega and the gain of Tau in Hercules to which Plato refers in the Atlantis narrative, lato was referring in his Atlantis tale not a location on Earth but to the constellation Hercules when he stated 'beyond the pillars of Hercules' for Atlantis. This gives an era to which his '9000 years ago' applied. Both Plato and the Biblical authors utilised the same concept.
For those who scorn these explanation due to the dating involved I suggest they spend a few years making in depth investigations into Indian developments. Circa 7000BC at Mergarh which today is in Pakistan, there emerged a group who had migrated from Sundaland to escape flooding. They were building brick houses with very accurately made bricks. There are literally 100s of thousands of these bricks there for anyone to measure and confirm my assessment. The unit measures found there were in use as recently as the medieval period in Europe where the same measures can be found on cathedrals etc. Much development in India stems from this era. These folk were quite proficient mathematicians and astronomers. Again, there is plentiful evidence in the book Measurements of the Gods. This book overturns a number of long held ideas regarding the abilities of our forebears...but unlike most it supplies firm check-able evidence.
I enjoy Biblical studies but I understand what I read and see things from a different perspective to those who accept what they read literally. Much was written as allegory but that methodology is not commonplace in the modern world and we have been led away from thinking in this manner. It all stems from inventing tales as an aid to memory long before writing was invented. Hence, this being the case, ancient material can often be seen in a completely different and much more revealing manner. Again, the results are often provable as such things as reference to droughts or very cold periods are often mentioned and these can be correlated with the result of modern climate research. This is more accurate then the conventional ideas regarding Biblical studies.I respectfully suggest that Phillip Mellon reads the two works mentioned above, he will be greatly surprised and will discover a much more enlightening view of these old narratives. Harry Sivertsen
Look ODIN did create a lot of things but you can't blame/praise HIM for everything! Give some credit to Nature from time to time, k?
They are not attributed to outer space sources. Did you read the article?
Hi. Thanks for the comments. You both might be interested in this lecture by Lucy Wyatt which touches upon many of the subjects in my research.
Thanks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3QM6VwDxgk
Perhaps not wise to mention this in publicity, but there is one this kind of a modern Artifact for sale at Himalaya made by an another Asian master-smith.
Both these smiths - whom I have here mentioned - can be considered "the best blade-smith in the World"... but both are always refusing that public title... - Humble, but also very practical and wise men.
very interesting article, well thought out and written then you go and ruin it all with the sky fairy, you put forward theories about coincidences and go on about fact and evidence okay so where is your Factual evidence that god exist's?
And those weapons were also sacred and magical. They were made with special - sometimes religious - rites.
The specialty of blades made from meteorite ore:
When a master-smith makes a "normal" sword - that itself being a masterpiece - from quality steel the strength of the blade will of 54, or 55 in the scale of 1-55... however; the strength of a blade made from meteorite ore is unnatural, or "heavenly" 60.
This means, that in the hand of a master sword.man these swords can literally cut straight trough metal armors and - i have heard - they can cut stones to pieces [?!]
Obviously such master soldier would have an edge against opponents having ordinary high-quality steel swords; when the duel starts, the hero just cuts the blade of his opponent to two pieces.
This is stuff told in ancient Chinese legends... but also confirmed today by many Asian martial artists plus more educated weapon-smiths.
The first Chinese Kings, or Emperors... and perhaps their major bodyguards... plus some Chinese independent, major warlords and few Chinese national-heroes have used these kind of blades as well... regarding to ancient stories and modern archaeological findings.
There is ONE master-smith at whole China and Asia, who manufactures those kind of blades still today.
What an excellent idea. :)
Noah's flood has science supporting it, however God was in control of that ! And God also created science, as he has, all things.
This have nothing to do with ignorance, my Barbarian friend. This is a fakt. You can find tekst about this period in ancient books from all over the world, for example Persian House library in Vancouver. This subject become more recent becouse only recently people start questioning few hundret years old BS made by "Gormanic" science. Also recently on Great Lechia lands has been found lot of artefakts and graves datet few tousand years back with an ancient slavic language on it. Plus i need to add to all of this, recent genetic test confouding whats above. First Great Lechia king ruled in 1800 bc. Im not paranoid my Barbarian friend, i love history and i wont to now the truth. Give me a real example to proof it and i will accept it. Greatings from Lechia
Brad
I found your article implying the Great Salt Lake has an ocean origin intriguing but unconvincing. The primary reason for this is something you should understand-time. Estimates for when the GSL formed range from 5300 to 6500 years ago and salts have been carried into the lake all these centuries so comparing the salt content of the Jordan and other tributaries to that in the lake is superfluous unless you use time, volume and cumulative salt loading. Also, there is Seville lake, another remnant of Lake Bonneville, nearby which has only about 86,000 ppm of salt but is also an endorheic lake but drains a minute area and, thus, has a much lower salinity. If the ocean was the source of the salts, I would expect this remnant to be closer to the GSL in salt content. Finally, there is the issue of the means by which ocean waters could penetrate into the interior of the North American continent and I don't consider Noah's flood a valid scientific argument.
I'm wondering how Statilius Taurus managed to be a consul in 41 AD, and then manage to go back to 51 BC to become proconsul of Africa...
'Even though Statilius Taurus was a consul or chief magistrate of Rome in 41 AD and then proconsul of Africa from 51 to 53 BC, his money and power were not enough to save him.'
Geologists say that before 65 million years ago, the whole area was submerged under several hundred feet of water. This body of water, called the Western Interior Seaway, extended all the way from the Hudson Bay in the North and Canada to the south, and cut the North American continent in half. When this waterway receded, it must have left behind a large amount of salts. It's possible that the salts that are dissolved in the Great Salt Lake originate from these salts that were laid down 65+ million years, I suppose. The problem with is hypothesis is that 65 million years is a long time, and over that time, additional sediments of sufficient thickness should have covered the original salt beds that were laid down so that they couldn't really be redissolved into the Great Salt Lake when it formed much later.
Yeah, the salt levels are rising because there's no outlet. If the Great Salt Lake had an outlet, it would be carrying not just water with it, but the dissolved salts also out of the lake.
Very interesting theory. I wonder if the land around the lake was once lower and closer to the sea. It could have been flooded often by the sea, thus leaving the salt behind? Reminds me of the Dead Sea. Are the salt levels rising because there is no outlet. If not, where is the salt going?
Thanks for the comment! I was trying to figure out why some lakes are fresh and some are salty if a flood covered the whole area, and it seems like you've answered that question for me.
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