Would be very easy to go to these "pyramids" and see if they are made out of block stonework like all other man made pyramids or if they are just natural geology. Seems like a bit of a none story unless that happens.
Fascinating information! Thank you for bringing this over to our view. I have heard about this library but I had never really researched about its history and catalog content. I will certainly read more about it as ancient libraries fascinate me *I'm still one of those who would still cry for the lost of the Great Library of Alexandria!
Why did someone vandalized it.As Roberto peron said He needs a lesson in respect. I have watched harry potter series (http://topfreetorrentsites.com) and I loved it. And, the writer of the series has nothing to do here.
As an archive of information, the stones and sculptures are brilliant. No lost, obscure, ancient faded or worn inscriptions to bang our heads against for decades. It is true that some of the sculptures have seemingly obscure meanings, but I think it will take far less work understanding them than it would to try and decode a twelve thousand year old dead language.
To decide they are fake, you have to ignore the oxidation and patina age studies which arrived at an approximate age of 12,000 BP as the minimum age, as well as take into consideration when these stones and statues began to come into the Doctor's possession. If I remember correctly, there are medical procedures as well as specific extinct animal types depicted on some of the stones which, at the time, had not yet been discovered.
I think you should be looking more closely at Temple Grafton Church for the resting place of Templar Treasure. It is where William Shakespeare was married. The current Church was rebuilt in 1875 and had the crypt completely filled in. The lead coffins were covered over as well according to the locals. My spirit led me to this Church one day for some reason, after visiting Shakespeare's birth & death places in Stratford. To my surprise I found it was the place he was married in. I feel the holy spirit indicated that something is located here. I has also just come down from the Roslyn Chapel. Yahweh hid the Ark for it to be re-discovered at an appropriate future time. Perhaps now is the time for the the Ark to re emerge, as we are in the 2012 to 2032, 20 year transition period to the Christ's 1000 year rule on Earth.
I agree that the patina should be dated. Why haven’t the mainstream archeologists done so? Do they fear the results? Also, the sheer number of stones tell me that most are not fakes. Andesite is extremely hard and I don’t think the locals would have had access to machinery that would be needed to carve the large number of rocks that have been found.
I seem to remeber reading that 90 degree angles are quite rare in nature. Also, even if it natural, how could so many 90 degree angles appear so close together? Did they migrate there? I think this is just another case of mainstream archeologists ignoring evidence that doesn’t fit their theory of human evolution, I think all these underwater structures are evidence of an advanced society that lived pre last ice age.
I wonder if this could be a trick of light (as NASA claims is the “face on Mars”). Perhaps that’s why it took two years to find it as the sun had to be in the correct position
Why is it difficult to date the engravings? Isn’t there patina in them? If no patina exists, then I would deem it a fake because no engraving could exist in a stone that is exposed to the elements or buried without accumulating debris. As for dating the seashell, that is useless in dating the engraving as whenever engraved the stone could have picked it up anywhere.
I’ve been interested in OOPARTS for a number of years. I’ve read many tales of archaeologist who lose their credibility for opposing “Mainstream” archeology. The supposedly ancient carvings in areas of the Grand Canyon that are off limits to tourists is a topic that I feel deserves some investigation.
The Olmec language influenced the Mayan and other Mexican languages . Swadesh, Morris in The Language of the Archaeological Huastecs, ( Notes on Middle American Archaelogy and Ethnology 1953 4:223-227) noted that the linguistic evidence suggest that around 1200 B.C., when the Olmec arrived in the Gulf, region of Mexico a non-Maya speaking group wedged itself between the Huastecs and Maya. The Olmec was probably this new intrusive group that wedged between these tribes.
Mexican tranditions claim the Olmec came to Mexico by sea. The archaeological evidence, suggest that the founders of the Olmec civilization were not “indigenous” people.
In the Olmec World: Ritual and Rulership (1995), (ed.) by Carolyn Tate, on page 65, we find the following statement”Olmec culture as far as we know seems to have no antecedents; no material models remain for its monumental constructions and sculptures and the ritual acts captured in small objects”.
M. Coe, writing in Regional Perspective on the Olmecs (1989), (ed.) by Sharer and Grove, observed that “ on the contrary, the evidence although negative, is that the Olmec style of art, and Olmec engineering ability suddenly appeared full fledged from about 1200 BC”.
Mary E. Pye, writing in Olmec Archaeology in Mesoamerica (2000), (ed.) by J.E. Cark and M.E. Pye,makes it clear after a discussion of the pre-Olmec civilizations of the Mokaya tradition, that these cultures contributed nothing to the rise of the Olmec culture. Pye wrote “The Mokaya appear to have gradually come under Olmec influence during Cherla times and to have adopted Olmec ways. We use the term olmecization to describe the processes whereby independent groups tried to become Olmecs, or to become like the Olmecs” (p.234). Pye makes it clear that it was around 1200 BC that Olmec civilization rose in Mesoamerica. She continues “Much of the current debate about the Olmecs concerns the traditional mother culture view. For us this is still a primary issue. Our data from the Pacific coast show that the mother culture idea is still viable in terms of cultural practices. The early Olmecs created the first civilization in Mesoamerica; they had no peers, only contemporaries” (pp.245-46).
Richard A. Diehl The Olmecs:America’s first civilization (2005), wrote “ The identity of these first Olmecs remains a mystery. Some scholars believe they were Mokaya migrants from the Pacific coast of Chiapas who brought improved maize strains and incipient social stratification with them. Others propose that Olmec culture evolved among the local indigenous populations without significant external stimulus. I prefer the latter position, but freely admit that we lack sufficient information on the period before 1500 BC to resolve the issue” (p.25).
Pool (17-18), in Olmec Archaeology and early MesoAmerica (2007), argues that continuity exist between the Olmec and pre-Olmec cultures in Mexico “[even]though Coe now appears to favor an autochthonous origin for Olmec culture (Diehl & Coe 1995:150), he long held that the Olmec traits appeared at San Lorenzo rather suddenly during the Chicharras phase (ca 1450-1408 BC) (Coe 1970a:25,32; Coe and Diehl 1980a:150)”.
As a result, Olmec is a substratum language in Maya and Mixe-Zoque among other Mexican languages. Just because the languages may show a substratum relationship does not make the Maya and Mazatecan speakers descendants of the Olmecs .
I would not be surprised at all if one of these creatures was found. There are so many, many unexplored parts in our oceans and reefs There is just so much untold information and education down there that it boggles the mind.
I would not be surprised at all if one of these creatures was found. There are so many, many unexplored parts in our oceans and reefs There is just so much untold information and education down there that it boggles the mind.
No, for the record Islam does not torture people for their religious beliefs. The Quran states very clearly: Laa ikraaha fid deen. Which means there is no compulsion in matters of religion. Please don't equate the actions of ISIS with Islam. They have nothing to do with the traditional Islam that has been handed down through the centuries. And marching to the precipice? Look around you. Is the number of Muslims increasing or decreasing?
Unfortunately history existed. Speculation about unfilled or photographed past events is ended. There is now less opportunity, thank Heavens, for people to write guff such as we read here in all its insanity and hilarity.
God exists, It just does. How on earth do you think all this got here? How do you loonies achieve some form of consciousness?
First everything you see is created by Almighty God, as we know it. You get a vision? That's IT again, you see a Yeti? That's IT again, you dream something you have no experience of? That's IT again.
Jesus, or Issa exists- there is always down here any number of guides to Almighty God, but they are externally like you and me, and can themselves not create anything, though stuff goes on if you are a practising believer on the path to Enlightenment. Enlightenment is carried out directly by God, and is recommended to all loonies, and everyone else, as a means of finally escaping the misery of reading twaddle online!!
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Would be very easy to go to these "pyramids" and see if they are made out of block stonework like all other man made pyramids or if they are just natural geology. Seems like a bit of a none story unless that happens.
Fascinating information! Thank you for bringing this over to our view. I have heard about this library but I had never really researched about its history and catalog content. I will certainly read more about it as ancient libraries fascinate me *I'm still one of those who would still cry for the lost of the Great Library of Alexandria!
Why did someone vandalized it.As Roberto peron said He needs a lesson in respect. I have watched harry potter series (http://topfreetorrentsites.com) and I loved it. And, the writer of the series has nothing to do here.
As an archive of information, the stones and sculptures are brilliant. No lost, obscure, ancient faded or worn inscriptions to bang our heads against for decades. It is true that some of the sculptures have seemingly obscure meanings, but I think it will take far less work understanding them than it would to try and decode a twelve thousand year old dead language.
To decide they are fake, you have to ignore the oxidation and patina age studies which arrived at an approximate age of 12,000 BP as the minimum age, as well as take into consideration when these stones and statues began to come into the Doctor's possession. If I remember correctly, there are medical procedures as well as specific extinct animal types depicted on some of the stones which, at the time, had not yet been discovered.
When one has a different view, religious fundamentalists always resort to force.
I think you should be looking more closely at Temple Grafton Church for the resting place of Templar Treasure. It is where William Shakespeare was married. The current Church was rebuilt in 1875 and had the crypt completely filled in. The lead coffins were covered over as well according to the locals. My spirit led me to this Church one day for some reason, after visiting Shakespeare's birth & death places in Stratford. To my surprise I found it was the place he was married in. I feel the holy spirit indicated that something is located here. I has also just come down from the Roslyn Chapel. Yahweh hid the Ark for it to be re-discovered at an appropriate future time. Perhaps now is the time for the the Ark to re emerge, as we are in the 2012 to 2032, 20 year transition period to the Christ's 1000 year rule on Earth.
No. People with bigoted, racist views such as yours are a failed brand of humanity.
I agree that the patina should be dated. Why haven’t the mainstream archeologists done so? Do they fear the results? Also, the sheer number of stones tell me that most are not fakes. Andesite is extremely hard and I don’t think the locals would have had access to machinery that would be needed to carve the large number of rocks that have been found.
Wasn't this tomb believed to be that of King Cassander?And also thought to contain the remains of Alexander's mother (and Cassander's rival) Olympias?
I seem to remeber reading that 90 degree angles are quite rare in nature. Also, even if it natural, how could so many 90 degree angles appear so close together? Did they migrate there? I think this is just another case of mainstream archeologists ignoring evidence that doesn’t fit their theory of human evolution, I think all these underwater structures are evidence of an advanced society that lived pre last ice age.
I wonder if this could be a trick of light (as NASA claims is the “face on Mars”). Perhaps that’s why it took two years to find it as the sun had to be in the correct position
Why is it difficult to date the engravings? Isn’t there patina in them? If no patina exists, then I would deem it a fake because no engraving could exist in a stone that is exposed to the elements or buried without accumulating debris. As for dating the seashell, that is useless in dating the engraving as whenever engraved the stone could have picked it up anywhere.
I’ve been interested in OOPARTS for a number of years. I’ve read many tales of archaeologist who lose their credibility for opposing “Mainstream” archeology. The supposedly ancient carvings in areas of the Grand Canyon that are off limits to tourists is a topic that I feel deserves some investigation.
Use of Gould is a Straw Man fallacy. Cite articles that Neves’ identification of the Paleoamericans as Africans, Melanesian or Australian is wrong.
The Olmec language influenced the Mayan and other Mexican languages . Swadesh, Morris in The Language of the Archaeological Huastecs, ( Notes on Middle American Archaelogy and Ethnology 1953 4:223-227) noted that the linguistic evidence suggest that around 1200 B.C., when the Olmec arrived in the Gulf, region of Mexico a non-Maya speaking group wedged itself between the Huastecs and Maya. The Olmec was probably this new intrusive group that wedged between these tribes.
Mexican tranditions claim the Olmec came to Mexico by sea. The archaeological evidence, suggest that the founders of the Olmec civilization were not “indigenous” people.
In the Olmec World: Ritual and Rulership (1995), (ed.) by Carolyn Tate, on page 65, we find the following statement”Olmec culture as far as we know seems to have no antecedents; no material models remain for its monumental constructions and sculptures and the ritual acts captured in small objects”.
M. Coe, writing in Regional Perspective on the Olmecs (1989), (ed.) by Sharer and Grove, observed that “ on the contrary, the evidence although negative, is that the Olmec style of art, and Olmec engineering ability suddenly appeared full fledged from about 1200 BC”.
Mary E. Pye, writing in Olmec Archaeology in Mesoamerica (2000), (ed.) by J.E. Cark and M.E. Pye,makes it clear after a discussion of the pre-Olmec civilizations of the Mokaya tradition, that these cultures contributed nothing to the rise of the Olmec culture. Pye wrote “The Mokaya appear to have gradually come under Olmec influence during Cherla times and to have adopted Olmec ways. We use the term olmecization to describe the processes whereby independent groups tried to become Olmecs, or to become like the Olmecs” (p.234). Pye makes it clear that it was around 1200 BC that Olmec civilization rose in Mesoamerica. She continues “Much of the current debate about the Olmecs concerns the traditional mother culture view. For us this is still a primary issue. Our data from the Pacific coast show that the mother culture idea is still viable in terms of cultural practices. The early Olmecs created the first civilization in Mesoamerica; they had no peers, only contemporaries” (pp.245-46).
Richard A. Diehl The Olmecs:America’s first civilization (2005), wrote “ The identity of these first Olmecs remains a mystery. Some scholars believe they were Mokaya migrants from the Pacific coast of Chiapas who brought improved maize strains and incipient social stratification with them. Others propose that Olmec culture evolved among the local indigenous populations without significant external stimulus. I prefer the latter position, but freely admit that we lack sufficient information on the period before 1500 BC to resolve the issue” (p.25).
Pool (17-18), in Olmec Archaeology and early MesoAmerica (2007), argues that continuity exist between the Olmec and pre-Olmec cultures in Mexico “[even]though Coe now appears to favor an autochthonous origin for Olmec culture (Diehl & Coe 1995:150), he long held that the Olmec traits appeared at San Lorenzo rather suddenly during the Chicharras phase (ca 1450-1408 BC) (Coe 1970a:25,32; Coe and Diehl 1980a:150)”.
As a result, Olmec is a substratum language in Maya and Mixe-Zoque among other Mexican languages. Just because the languages may show a substratum relationship does not make the Maya and Mazatecan speakers descendants of the Olmecs .
I would not be surprised at all if one of these creatures was found. There are so many, many unexplored parts in our oceans and reefs There is just so much untold information and education down there that it boggles the mind.
I would not be surprised at all if one of these creatures was found. There are so many, many unexplored parts in our oceans and reefs There is just so much untold information and education down there that it boggles the mind.
No, for the record Islam does not torture people for their religious beliefs. The Quran states very clearly: Laa ikraaha fid deen. Which means there is no compulsion in matters of religion. Please don't equate the actions of ISIS with Islam. They have nothing to do with the traditional Islam that has been handed down through the centuries. And marching to the precipice? Look around you. Is the number of Muslims increasing or decreasing?
Unfortunately history existed. Speculation about unfilled or photographed past events is ended. There is now less opportunity, thank Heavens, for people to write guff such as we read here in all its insanity and hilarity.
God exists, It just does. How on earth do you think all this got here? How do you loonies achieve some form of consciousness?
First everything you see is created by Almighty God, as we know it. You get a vision? That's IT again, you see a Yeti? That's IT again, you dream something you have no experience of? That's IT again.
Jesus, or Issa exists- there is always down here any number of guides to Almighty God, but they are externally like you and me, and can themselves not create anything, though stuff goes on if you are a practising believer on the path to Enlightenment. Enlightenment is carried out directly by God, and is recommended to all loonies, and everyone else, as a means of finally escaping the misery of reading twaddle online!!
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