Carrier waves are another of those misnomers from the STD model. There is the plasma (aether) and the pertrubations of the neutrons and protons sharing 1-2 electron bundles between themselves, switching their identiies back and forth between neutron-proton-neutron-proton etc … creates the 1-exchange of the electrostatic force (weak nuclear binding force) and the 2-exchange of the electromagnetic force (strong nuclear binding force). It is the higher elements (that are in actuality only multiples of actual hydrogen (deuterium) that you have the higher manifestation of the electric and magnetic forces of electromagnetism. The aspects of a carrier wave, … light is a wave (it is not) or a particle (it is not !) its a damned 3D spiral of photonic energy at the gamma ray or neutrino existence. + and – gammas create composites (for 0 gammas – twinned) for + and – neutrinos (and 0 neutrino), that compose the very electrons that make up all of the higher column 1, 2, and 3 of the std model fermions and leptons. There are no forces as bosons (and especially that D graviton !), as these are the very electrical charge (gamma and neutrinos) inside the (said) electron, with its exterior electrical field being these same composites being the observed electron force fields and charge. Photons travel as a slinky in a spiral with ever smaller amplitude (wave aspect looking at it 2D flat oscilloscope !) and faster velocity the higher the frequency and energy is. The entire Hertz frequencies literally show a decreasing amplitude and faster velocity (hz cycle) of the slowed-down embedded photons inside the electron. And as physics says – all matter is in motion. There is no absolute rest mass – even with a stable and fixed location object – it is still vibrating and spinning in that location. The truth of the Meissner effect is a unipolarity of the object under superconductive conditions. The Meissner effect (with 3 current – bogus – experiments with pressure, water, and freezing temperature) only occurs with a true ambient temperature and pressure of any medium. Current superconductors at best are super – semi-conductors. When you remove the external conditions – back to ambiency – the superconductive properties and Meissner effect disappears. A true superconductor is a supercompacted atomic element (a doubled atomic element in the same space and visual appearance, but a true Cooper pairing and Bose-Einstein condensate. That product, whether a supersolid, flow metal, or cold flow plasma displays these properties – and it directly self-recharges off the very aether that composes the entire cosmos. Such carrier waves, are actually worm bubbles surrouinding the object (like Star Trek warp bubble). A worm bubble in motion makes for a wormhole appearance. Only a true interlocked stargate making the open portals and locked wormhole between them (still all related to superconductivity) allows movement within the plasma aether of humans or vessels. It is the known electrostatic field of sufficient power to negate any contact of the greater electromagnetic force (and gravity) upon the vessel’s body – that true levitation or hovering is accomplished. Like an air hockey puck, without any surrounding gravitational effects upon the object, it hovers, floats, and has all those abilities of supersessional flying (WITHOUT any G-forces and shear forces upon the vessel and the occupants !) With no external EM and gravitations forces able to penetrate into the interior of the vessel, there is no gravity upon the vessel or the inside occupants. This is how they are able to have supersessional flying, but you experience nothing of instant up, instant down, climb, dive, instant start, instant stop, instant left, instant right. ..It truly is a fascinating topic. And part of this ability is accomplished through a very special skin upon the vessel’s body, whether it is a rotating flying saucer ring, or a one-piece unibody UFO construction. That skin accomplishes that “slipsteam”, much like the air slipstream of the sonic barrier, … or modern devices on ship’s spewing out bubbles along the ships watery contact with the ship, and there is no resistance or friction. This is slipstreaming, and it is all part of the carrier mechanism of all these ancient UFOs, and all their variant shapes, sizes, usages (fighters, cargo ships, daughter, and mother ships etc).
Just wanted too share I don't believe the Ancients didn't know or understand what animals they were looking at when they referenced Dragon's & Serpents although, The Flying Turtle is a New One.
India's next door neighbor sort to speak China The Lunar New Year is represented by a specific animal. All of the animals that live in China today are apart of the 11 animal's in the Chinese Zodiac, it makes no sense for China to place a mythical creature such as the Dragon on its Calendar if the animal never existed.
Reportedly that time Portuguese Explorer Marco Polo visited China he brought back reports of seeing Dragons in China he even described them by giving their various Heights that the Dragons reached adding to the information that the Tiger, Wolf and other predatory animals tended to remain hidden to avoid encounters with these Dragon's; Marco wrote more importantly that China had an effective way of killing These kinds of Dragons.
Admittedly most scholars when studying Marco believe the Dragon's were Crocodiles but, I've not yet heard of Crocodiles that walk upright on Hind legs; has their been a New species of Crocodile discovered?
I got upset when I learned in 1885, American Bible Society changed 35 translations in the Old Testament that referenced to Dragons and Water Dragon's in Isaiah God makes an distinction between Crocodiles an Water Dragon's.
I'm even more annoyed that Enoch the oldest Biblical Text apparently it has been established that Enoch is older than The Epic of Gilgamesh, in my case I've believe The Bible to be Word of God ( it's what we say in African American Churches), it's why when doing Bible Study people pray for the Holy Spirit to come and guide us in our understanding of the Scriptures so for me it's not people I've relied on but God to help me understand.
Believe me I've heard ministers denounce Enoch as Not Biblical Inspired Truth but, since God guided Me to this remarkable Biblical Text then Its through the Lord, that I know Enoch is sound Biblical Truth.
In order to understand our Ancient Ancestors stories of what Earth was like we need Enoch he's the road Map he can connect all the stories especially since on Enoch 2 The Book of the Secrets of Enoch He maintains he'd written over 366 Books altogether.
So it seems that we may be missing 363 Books written by Enoch or his Books are around us and we just don't know it I bet he even has writings on Flying Machine's in The Ancient World before India was known as India.
That's all I wanted to share with you Helgi I'll see you around.
I quite agree with you Chandra, that these old texts, deserve further studies. The problem we have with all old texts, is that people at the time either didn’t have the words to describe what they saw, so they used similies e.g. talking about flying turtles, serpents, dragons or even thunderbirds, or they had words for it, but the meaning has since been lost, as the knowledge got lost.
What people seem to overlook, is also the description of the ‘deities’ in India and Egypt. Osiris was ‘green’, Akenaten had an elongated head, Krshna was blue, and Ganesh has the head of an Elephant, yet I saw a documentary once, where the oldest depiction of Ganesh was more human like but with the trunk of an elephant, which would indicate a human being with an oxygen mask or rebreather, because they were from another world, and used the mask/rebreather to filter out foreign microbes which they were susceptable to.
The children of Woolpit in England, who seem to have appeared out of nowhere, speaking a language unknown to anyone, wearing ‘strange’ clothing and refusing to eat the food they were offered (possibly due to them not being familiar with it). The boy died very soon, but his sister ‘adapted’ got a natural skin colour and married (she never gave up any geneaology).
Going back to the gods (beings celebrated as gods owing to their great knowledge) with animal features, if we study them, we can see that certain ‘truths’ have been preserved elsewhere, e.g. with the DOGONs, who have information about our solar system (e.g. the green planet with rings (Uranus), and the blue planet also with rings (Neptune) related to them from these beings, long before their discovery; and also that these beings came from the SIRIUS star system, and that their world (Sirius B) was dying (this planet was discovered many years later). They also told them about Sirius C (yet to be discovered).
What I find interesting, is the ‘dances’ and ‘ceremonies’ where the Dogon’s don costumes with these headdresses like animals e.g. dog/Anubis. – This is NOT strange, since I feel it depicts the dog star Sirius, and I think it is possibly lost to antiquity or the Dogon’s won’t reveal all, that this is a method of ‘storytelling’ akin to the ‘storytelling of dreamtime’ of the aborigines in Australia. Think about it. The dressed figures represent the planets and the journey from their world to ours, and the demise of their own. SIRIUS depicted by Anubis. Sirius is a hot sun, killing life on Sirius B. Anubis is the god of the underworld albeit realm of the dead (many of the people on Sirius B had already died or were dying), and these beings were celebrated as gods, but these beings were more interested in having their story told, so that they would be remembered, and people knew that there was life out there.
OSIRIS (green) came from ORION, but ISIS (fair skinned) from SIRIUS. Our planet is also destined to die the same way as Sirius, when our sun will expand and become a red giant and fry the oceans and all life on the planet. Will we venture to the stars and leave our legacy. We have already sent ‘a message in a bottle’ in the form of the Voyager probes with their golden records, the plate showing our DNA and giving our position by depicting the rate of near by pulsars as well as artifacts left on the moon.
I think we need to be more open minded, about these ‘rituals’ and ‘symbolism’ surrounding these deities, and how this may have been corrupted by the rich and learned to exploit those who couldn’t read, just like the Catholic Church (Universal Church) did, as not all spoke Latin or could read for that matter. Ask a Catholic, and they can quote what is quoted to them, and very few know that ‘Catholic’ means ‘Universal’.
My late brother and I, studied many denominations, and discovered how many of them have misunderstood the scriptures, and as I said, echo what is quoted to them, but do not read or think for themselves. If I quoted to them e.g. 1 Chor. 15:29 and spoke of baptism for the dead. They would ask me if that is something new. Then I mention to them where it is written, and they say they have never heard of it, and query as to what it entails, but it is not elaborated on any further, as it wasn’t necessary as everyone at the time, knew what they were on about. Then when the Temple of Solomon, Herodotus and Zerubabel were destroyed, they could no longer perform the ritual, and the knowledge was lost for a season.
Yes Chandra, these old texts need to be examined more closely. If memory serves me, other places in the world, I think perhaps Angor Watt, have ‘deities’ churning the river of milk (milky way) to create life. The Australian Aborigines talk about the milky way. Tribes in America, had a story about the Fox’s Tail touching the river and the ground, but then due to precession, it ceased to be possible, and the story was preserved but not the ritual. Then an astronomer from BYU looked at the story from an astronomical point of view, and discovered its meaning, and it was at this point, i.e. when the tail touched the river and ground, that the ‘veil’ was the thinnest, and they were able to ‘commune’ with their ancestors, just like other American Indian tribes did in the SUN LODGE at the Summer Solstice or was it Spring Equinox, when the veil was the thinnest, and these ‘medicine wheels’ were chosen and placed at places where the ‘veil was the thinnest’. – Did these ‘ley lines’ create a ‘portal’ to traverse dimension or time and space? Akin to the Norse gods, who would meet at ‘certain times’ at IÐAVELLIR (The moving or vibrating fields/vibrational fields), they could also travel via BIFRÖST (incorrectly pronounced as BI-FROST in the movie Thor, but should be pronounced BIF-RÖST, i.e. BIF meaning moving (from the word BIFA to move) and RÖST meaning wave. Today in electronics, we talk about CARRIER WAVES, does anybody else see any similarities?
"And, quite probably, 'not all of the locals' would be more correct'" is a corrective edit I tried to make to my comment about a dozen times without success.
"Patrick’s goal of seeing Pagan Ireland converted did not sit well with the locals at first..."
This may have been an appropriate juncture at which to point out that he was not the first to seek such a conversion. And, quite probably, 'all of the locals' would be more correct, for there is some evidence that a small minority were already Christian. Equally, some of the other elements of the Patrick story are possibly conflations with Palladius, one who is said to have preceded Patrick as Bishop of Ireland.
Myths can embellish real figures and the life of Patrick is certainly an example of this.
Another comment has mentioned the climate of the period. Time has not embellished this, but rather left it largely forgotten.
The Snake was a widespread symbol of Druids and priests. Actually “saint” Patrick drove the pagan priests in to the sea. Or where do you think did they go to?
There is no actual basis for the myth that the ancient people of Ireland used snakes as a symbol. It's just make-believe fiction and part of the conflation of Christian motions that served to create a narrative for the new Roman religion. The notion that people would be so dumb as to suddenly switch from thousands of years of their native ways, by being told a fabrication about three plant leaves on a stem representing a religious trinity that is not even mentioned in the Bible, is an obvious invention. To be fooled, one must first believe.
I firmly believe that the various references to flying machines in ancient Sanskrit literature are NOT myth. The most ancient of this literature are the Vedas, then the Puranas and then the Itihasas. The last category includes the Indian epics Ramayana and Mahabharata.
Apart from the above there is a store of Sanskrit writings on many topics including the sciences, These sources span a very long time period covering many millennia. Many of these also contain historical information such as genealogies of royal dynasties of the times. Datings are often facilitated by the fact that there has been a practice of fixing the time of important events by identifying the position of various stars/ constellations in the sky at the time of the event.
Many of these writings have references to flying machines,
Talking about the epics Ramayana and Mahabharata they are definitely believed to be historical events and not stories.. Indian scholars date the events of Ramayana to around 5000 BC and that of Mahabharata to around 3200 BC.
I believe that advanced civilizations flourished in the Indian subcontinent in ancient times. At least in some periods the civilizations were quite advanced both in science as well as spirituality. I would guess that disastrous natural calamities could have wiped out such societies and caused complete loss of the existing knowledge base .This in turn caused major discontinuities in our histories.
I will briefly narrate an interesting series of events, intimately connected to our topic of discussion.
Literature has references to an ancient text titled “ Yantra Sarvaswa” ( roughly translated as ‘All about machines’.) The authorship is attributed to Maharishi Bharadwaja. The title Maharishi indicates a person of high spiritual capabilities. One of the forty topics covered is said to be “Vymanika Shastra” [translated as ‘the science of Aeronautics’] The original text is not been found in full. In the first decade of 20th century ( around 1910 or so) a Sanskrit scholar (Pandit Subbaraya Sastry) had revelations in a meditative state on this subject. Sanskrit transcripts of the revelations were recorded in hand written form. Manuscript copies of this were sent to two Oriental Institutes in India. Derived from this ,a number publications came out over a period of time in English, Hindi etc. An official project study of the subject matter contained was undertaken by a committee of scientists associated with the Aeronautical Research and Development Board of the Govt. of India in 2001 Their report clearly brings out the depth of knowledge available in the text on a variety of scientific topics closely associated with Aeronautics. For example, some of the topics covered are metals and heat-absorbing materials,, Aerial routes, Machinery, varieties of vimanas, Pilot, his clothing, food, Melting etc etc. Also a list 32 special features are mentioned and are said to be based on principle-specific texts available separately.
So we can definitely conclude that much scientific knowledge relating to aeronautics existed. Much more research on the available Sanskrit texts is called for .
The daily mail should have saved this one for April 1st.
The argument is even founded on a premis of the same caliber, the broken and fragmented marbles 'the Greeks want back' are in the british museum and are staying put, their claim to them as sound as the Welsh one here.
There is an underlying moral though which I think people generally miss: for us britts who won't be going to Greece or some obscure place in Wales to gaze upon some ancient relics of a deceased culture, there are perfectly good substitutes here, easier and cheaper to access. I wonder how many people visit these places after reading these articles and I wonder if that's their real design........... After people gratify themselves over the moral side of the story though of course, we wouldn't put the effort in visiting something without first establishing its rarity or significance now would we.
I have a house not far from there in Mexico. There could be government activity with a secret base ….. but mostly it's a very poor region with very few people. Occoms razor would point to there just not needing to be cellular towers there.
Also, could a leather pouch have been placed inside to allow the item to be weighted to hold items against wind. Tents perhaps. Maybe they could be used on cordage for depth measurements in rivers. Exciting!
Just looking at them and thinking about the wax found in one or more, I was wondering if these could be warming devices for food. The devise would have 5 points down and up on opposite sides making it stable to hold a plate or bowl. It would allow for larger or smaller fires by sliding sticks of different sizes into the holes and could possibly keep the smoke from rising higher. Candle could be used as starter for wood. Just an idea
Yes, I too have seen these “Illusionists” in Market Street, and you know that it is a trick, just like the tricks done by magicians, illiusionists and various other names they prefer to use, eventhough you cannot always see how they do it, quite often due to misdirection.
Mentalists do the same, and many “fake” psychics are in fact mentalists, and I was not the flavour of the month, when I pointed it out to a friend of mine that two people, whom he felt were “good” were in fact only good mentalists. The first one, would always arrive about 5 minutes before the “meeting” (more of a show really) was to commence. He would then folow the protocols of a “medium”, and start by giving a description of the spirit coming through. Then bring the message, and in the end, (wait for it) bring the proof (which magicians call “the reveal”) and people fell for the BIG REVEAL, and swallowed it hook line and sinker. It was e.g. that they arrived in a red car, a Volkswagen, with a broken tail light, and then give the registration number. – I pointed out to my friend that these were the people who arrived just before he did (i.e. into the hall, as he would always go to the bathroom to “freshen up” so no one would notice he arrived at the same time as they did). We went to another meeting, and waited to go in, until HE had gone in, and took note of registration numbers, and lo and behold, I proved my point.
There are however people, who do have the gift, and I do not wish to detract from them their true gift and abiity.
My friend then fell for a man who was introducing a spiritual collective called MICHAEL. He had paid a pretty penny to take part in his workshops. He was then granted a “private” audience, and was permitted to bring someone with him. He chose me. I listened to everything the man had to say, and the man had a “message” for me too. After we left, my friend asked me if I was now convinced. – I replied “Quite the contrary”. He was floored, and asked me why? I told him, that I had received training from MUFON how to investigate sightings, and had implemented that knowledge. I then asked him if he had seen the books in his hotel room. He said he hadn’t paid any attention to them. I told him that the few books he had there, dealt with the same topic he spoke of, and the descriptions were a quotation out of one of them, namely 2010 by Arthur C. Clarke, which I had read. I told my friend that I could either lend him the book, or I could look up the chapter the man had quoted. He was very disheartened.
Just because there are many tricksters in this world (incl. sales men and women), does not mean that all things are lies. We were given the freedom of choice in the Garden on Eden, and must excercise it wisely and must be mature enough to accept the responsibility that comes with it, i.e. be mature enough to accept the consequences of our choices. We are told by God, to Read AND Study the scriptures, and ponder them in our hearts, and THEN take it to the LORD and ask if our understanding is right, if it is correct The Holy Spirit will make our hearts burn as confirmation, else we shall have a stupour of thought. The more we study the writings with PURE INTENT, the more we will have The Holy Spirit to guide us, and as stated above, even the “hidden things” will be “revealed”.
The early Hebrews were very eager to have everything “revealed” to them during their Exodus, and the apocalypse (greek for revelation) arrived in the form of the Tabernacle and all the ordinances related to it; But because they didn’t make the effort, it didn’t benefit them. The same is happening in this world today, people are being played. I don’t mind the street artists, whom I look at as entertainers and the act as amusement, but I do mind politicians and the nouveu rich who blindsight people so they can stay rich and keep the poor, poor.
Please keep an open albeit critical mind, and don’t lose sight of the truth just because you’ve met nine liars, as the tenth person might just hold the key to your salvation.
I didn’t mean, that visualization can make a mat fly, but through it, you can connect with the almighty, and obtain wisdom of even that which is hidden (often in plain sight), through which you will gain a deeper understanding, thus enabling you to make such things, until such time as you yourself will be perfected to the point where you will be able to levitate, fly, or even exercise BILOCATION (Remote Viewing).
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Carrier waves are another of those misnomers from the STD model. There is the plasma (aether) and the pertrubations of the neutrons and protons sharing 1-2 electron bundles between themselves, switching their identiies back and forth between neutron-proton-neutron-proton etc … creates the 1-exchange of the electrostatic force (weak nuclear binding force) and the 2-exchange of the electromagnetic force (strong nuclear binding force). It is the higher elements (that are in actuality only multiples of actual hydrogen (deuterium) that you have the higher manifestation of the electric and magnetic forces of electromagnetism. The aspects of a carrier wave, … light is a wave (it is not) or a particle (it is not !) its a damned 3D spiral of photonic energy at the gamma ray or neutrino existence. + and – gammas create composites (for 0 gammas – twinned) for + and – neutrinos (and 0 neutrino), that compose the very electrons that make up all of the higher column 1, 2, and 3 of the std model fermions and leptons. There are no forces as bosons (and especially that D graviton !), as these are the very electrical charge (gamma and neutrinos) inside the (said) electron, with its exterior electrical field being these same composites being the observed electron force fields and charge. Photons travel as a slinky in a spiral with ever smaller amplitude (wave aspect looking at it 2D flat oscilloscope !) and faster velocity the higher the frequency and energy is. The entire Hertz frequencies literally show a decreasing amplitude and faster velocity (hz cycle) of the slowed-down embedded photons inside the electron. And as physics says – all matter is in motion. There is no absolute rest mass – even with a stable and fixed location object – it is still vibrating and spinning in that location. The truth of the Meissner effect is a unipolarity of the object under superconductive conditions. The Meissner effect (with 3 current – bogus – experiments with pressure, water, and freezing temperature) only occurs with a true ambient temperature and pressure of any medium. Current superconductors at best are super – semi-conductors. When you remove the external conditions – back to ambiency – the superconductive properties and Meissner effect disappears. A true superconductor is a supercompacted atomic element (a doubled atomic element in the same space and visual appearance, but a true Cooper pairing and Bose-Einstein condensate. That product, whether a supersolid, flow metal, or cold flow plasma displays these properties – and it directly self-recharges off the very aether that composes the entire cosmos. Such carrier waves, are actually worm bubbles surrouinding the object (like Star Trek warp bubble). A worm bubble in motion makes for a wormhole appearance. Only a true interlocked stargate making the open portals and locked wormhole between them (still all related to superconductivity) allows movement within the plasma aether of humans or vessels. It is the known electrostatic field of sufficient power to negate any contact of the greater electromagnetic force (and gravity) upon the vessel’s body – that true levitation or hovering is accomplished. Like an air hockey puck, without any surrounding gravitational effects upon the object, it hovers, floats, and has all those abilities of supersessional flying (WITHOUT any G-forces and shear forces upon the vessel and the occupants !) With no external EM and gravitations forces able to penetrate into the interior of the vessel, there is no gravity upon the vessel or the inside occupants. This is how they are able to have supersessional flying, but you experience nothing of instant up, instant down, climb, dive, instant start, instant stop, instant left, instant right. ..It truly is a fascinating topic. And part of this ability is accomplished through a very special skin upon the vessel’s body, whether it is a rotating flying saucer ring, or a one-piece unibody UFO construction. That skin accomplishes that “slipsteam”, much like the air slipstream of the sonic barrier, … or modern devices on ship’s spewing out bubbles along the ships watery contact with the ship, and there is no resistance or friction. This is slipstreaming, and it is all part of the carrier mechanism of all these ancient UFOs, and all their variant shapes, sizes, usages (fighters, cargo ships, daughter, and mother ships etc).
Hi Helgi,
Just wanted too share I don't believe the Ancients didn't know or understand what animals they were looking at when they referenced Dragon's & Serpents although, The Flying Turtle is a New One.
India's next door neighbor sort to speak China The Lunar New Year is represented by a specific animal. All of the animals that live in China today are apart of the 11 animal's in the Chinese Zodiac, it makes no sense for China to place a mythical creature such as the Dragon on its Calendar if the animal never existed.
Reportedly that time Portuguese Explorer Marco Polo visited China he brought back reports of seeing Dragons in China he even described them by giving their various Heights that the Dragons reached adding to the information that the Tiger, Wolf and other predatory animals tended to remain hidden to avoid encounters with these Dragon's; Marco wrote more importantly that China had an effective way of killing These kinds of Dragons.
Admittedly most scholars when studying Marco believe the Dragon's were Crocodiles but, I've not yet heard of Crocodiles that walk upright on Hind legs; has their been a New species of Crocodile discovered?
I got upset when I learned in 1885, American Bible Society changed 35 translations in the Old Testament that referenced to Dragons and Water Dragon's in Isaiah God makes an distinction between Crocodiles an Water Dragon's.
I'm even more annoyed that Enoch the oldest Biblical Text apparently it has been established that Enoch is older than The Epic of Gilgamesh, in my case I've believe The Bible to be Word of God ( it's what we say in African American Churches), it's why when doing Bible Study people pray for the Holy Spirit to come and guide us in our understanding of the Scriptures so for me it's not people I've relied on but God to help me understand.
Believe me I've heard ministers denounce Enoch as Not Biblical Inspired Truth but, since God guided Me to this remarkable Biblical Text then Its through the Lord, that I know Enoch is sound Biblical Truth.
In order to understand our Ancient Ancestors stories of what Earth was like we need Enoch he's the road Map he can connect all the stories especially since on Enoch 2 The Book of the Secrets of Enoch He maintains he'd written over 366 Books altogether.
So it seems that we may be missing 363 Books written by Enoch or his Books are around us and we just don't know it I bet he even has writings on Flying Machine's in The Ancient World before India was known as India.
That's all I wanted to share with you Helgi I'll see you around.
I quite agree with you Chandra, that these old texts, deserve further studies. The problem we have with all old texts, is that people at the time either didn’t have the words to describe what they saw, so they used similies e.g. talking about flying turtles, serpents, dragons or even thunderbirds, or they had words for it, but the meaning has since been lost, as the knowledge got lost.
What people seem to overlook, is also the description of the ‘deities’ in India and Egypt. Osiris was ‘green’, Akenaten had an elongated head, Krshna was blue, and Ganesh has the head of an Elephant, yet I saw a documentary once, where the oldest depiction of Ganesh was more human like but with the trunk of an elephant, which would indicate a human being with an oxygen mask or rebreather, because they were from another world, and used the mask/rebreather to filter out foreign microbes which they were susceptable to.
The children of Woolpit in England, who seem to have appeared out of nowhere, speaking a language unknown to anyone, wearing ‘strange’ clothing and refusing to eat the food they were offered (possibly due to them not being familiar with it). The boy died very soon, but his sister ‘adapted’ got a natural skin colour and married (she never gave up any geneaology).
Going back to the gods (beings celebrated as gods owing to their great knowledge) with animal features, if we study them, we can see that certain ‘truths’ have been preserved elsewhere, e.g. with the DOGONs, who have information about our solar system (e.g. the green planet with rings (Uranus), and the blue planet also with rings (Neptune) related to them from these beings, long before their discovery; and also that these beings came from the SIRIUS star system, and that their world (Sirius B) was dying (this planet was discovered many years later). They also told them about Sirius C (yet to be discovered).
What I find interesting, is the ‘dances’ and ‘ceremonies’ where the Dogon’s don costumes with these headdresses like animals e.g. dog/Anubis. – This is NOT strange, since I feel it depicts the dog star Sirius, and I think it is possibly lost to antiquity or the Dogon’s won’t reveal all, that this is a method of ‘storytelling’ akin to the ‘storytelling of dreamtime’ of the aborigines in Australia. Think about it. The dressed figures represent the planets and the journey from their world to ours, and the demise of their own. SIRIUS depicted by Anubis. Sirius is a hot sun, killing life on Sirius B. Anubis is the god of the underworld albeit realm of the dead (many of the people on Sirius B had already died or were dying), and these beings were celebrated as gods, but these beings were more interested in having their story told, so that they would be remembered, and people knew that there was life out there.
OSIRIS (green) came from ORION, but ISIS (fair skinned) from SIRIUS. Our planet is also destined to die the same way as Sirius, when our sun will expand and become a red giant and fry the oceans and all life on the planet. Will we venture to the stars and leave our legacy. We have already sent ‘a message in a bottle’ in the form of the Voyager probes with their golden records, the plate showing our DNA and giving our position by depicting the rate of near by pulsars as well as artifacts left on the moon.
I think we need to be more open minded, about these ‘rituals’ and ‘symbolism’ surrounding these deities, and how this may have been corrupted by the rich and learned to exploit those who couldn’t read, just like the Catholic Church (Universal Church) did, as not all spoke Latin or could read for that matter. Ask a Catholic, and they can quote what is quoted to them, and very few know that ‘Catholic’ means ‘Universal’.
My late brother and I, studied many denominations, and discovered how many of them have misunderstood the scriptures, and as I said, echo what is quoted to them, but do not read or think for themselves. If I quoted to them e.g. 1 Chor. 15:29 and spoke of baptism for the dead. They would ask me if that is something new. Then I mention to them where it is written, and they say they have never heard of it, and query as to what it entails, but it is not elaborated on any further, as it wasn’t necessary as everyone at the time, knew what they were on about. Then when the Temple of Solomon, Herodotus and Zerubabel were destroyed, they could no longer perform the ritual, and the knowledge was lost for a season.
Yes Chandra, these old texts need to be examined more closely. If memory serves me, other places in the world, I think perhaps Angor Watt, have ‘deities’ churning the river of milk (milky way) to create life. The Australian Aborigines talk about the milky way. Tribes in America, had a story about the Fox’s Tail touching the river and the ground, but then due to precession, it ceased to be possible, and the story was preserved but not the ritual. Then an astronomer from BYU looked at the story from an astronomical point of view, and discovered its meaning, and it was at this point, i.e. when the tail touched the river and ground, that the ‘veil’ was the thinnest, and they were able to ‘commune’ with their ancestors, just like other American Indian tribes did in the SUN LODGE at the Summer Solstice or was it Spring Equinox, when the veil was the thinnest, and these ‘medicine wheels’ were chosen and placed at places where the ‘veil was the thinnest’. – Did these ‘ley lines’ create a ‘portal’ to traverse dimension or time and space? Akin to the Norse gods, who would meet at ‘certain times’ at IÐAVELLIR (The moving or vibrating fields/vibrational fields), they could also travel via BIFRÖST (incorrectly pronounced as BI-FROST in the movie Thor, but should be pronounced BIF-RÖST, i.e. BIF meaning moving (from the word BIFA to move) and RÖST meaning wave. Today in electronics, we talk about CARRIER WAVES, does anybody else see any similarities?
"And, quite probably, 'not all of the locals' would be more correct'" is a corrective edit I tried to make to my comment about a dozen times without success.
"Patrick’s goal of seeing Pagan Ireland converted did not sit well with the locals at first..."
This may have been an appropriate juncture at which to point out that he was not the first to seek such a conversion. And, quite probably, 'all of the locals' would be more correct, for there is some evidence that a small minority were already Christian. Equally, some of the other elements of the Patrick story are possibly conflations with Palladius, one who is said to have preceded Patrick as Bishop of Ireland.
Myths can embellish real figures and the life of Patrick is certainly an example of this.
Another comment has mentioned the climate of the period. Time has not embellished this, but rather left it largely forgotten.
The Snake was a widespread symbol of Druids and priests. Actually “saint” Patrick drove the pagan priests in to the sea. Or where do you think did they go to?
There is no actual basis for the myth that the ancient people of Ireland used snakes as a symbol. It's just make-believe fiction and part of the conflation of Christian motions that served to create a narrative for the new Roman religion. The notion that people would be so dumb as to suddenly switch from thousands of years of their native ways, by being told a fabrication about three plant leaves on a stem representing a religious trinity that is not even mentioned in the Bible, is an obvious invention. To be fooled, one must first believe.
I firmly believe that the various references to flying machines in ancient Sanskrit literature are NOT myth. The most ancient of this literature are the Vedas, then the Puranas and then the Itihasas. The last category includes the Indian epics Ramayana and Mahabharata.
Apart from the above there is a store of Sanskrit writings on many topics including the sciences, These sources span a very long time period covering many millennia. Many of these also contain historical information such as genealogies of royal dynasties of the times. Datings are often facilitated by the fact that there has been a practice of fixing the time of important events by identifying the position of various stars/ constellations in the sky at the time of the event.
Many of these writings have references to flying machines,
Talking about the epics Ramayana and Mahabharata they are definitely believed to be historical events and not stories.. Indian scholars date the events of Ramayana to around 5000 BC and that of Mahabharata to around 3200 BC.
I believe that advanced civilizations flourished in the Indian subcontinent in ancient times. At least in some periods the civilizations were quite advanced both in science as well as spirituality. I would guess that disastrous natural calamities could have wiped out such societies and caused complete loss of the existing knowledge base .This in turn caused major discontinuities in our histories.
I will briefly narrate an interesting series of events, intimately connected to our topic of discussion.
Literature has references to an ancient text titled “ Yantra Sarvaswa” ( roughly translated as ‘All about machines’.) The authorship is attributed to Maharishi Bharadwaja. The title Maharishi indicates a person of high spiritual capabilities. One of the forty topics covered is said to be “Vymanika Shastra” [translated as ‘the science of Aeronautics’] The original text is not been found in full.
In the first decade of 20th century ( around 1910 or so) a Sanskrit scholar (Pandit Subbaraya Sastry) had revelations in a meditative state on this subject. Sanskrit transcripts of the revelations were recorded in hand written form.
Manuscript copies of this were sent to two Oriental Institutes in India. Derived from this ,a number publications came out over a period of time in English, Hindi etc.
An official project study of the subject matter contained was undertaken by a committee of scientists associated with the Aeronautical Research and Development Board of the Govt. of India in 2001
Their report clearly brings out the depth of knowledge available in the text on a variety of scientific topics closely associated with Aeronautics. For example, some of the topics covered are metals and heat-absorbing materials,, Aerial routes, Machinery, varieties of vimanas, Pilot, his clothing, food, Melting etc etc.
Also a list 32 special features are mentioned and are said to be based on principle-specific texts available separately.
So we can definitely conclude that much scientific knowledge relating to aeronautics existed. Much more research on the available Sanskrit texts is called for .
The daily mail should have saved this one for April 1st.
The argument is even founded on a premis of the same caliber, the broken and fragmented marbles 'the Greeks want back' are in the british museum and are staying put, their claim to them as sound as the Welsh one here.
There is an underlying moral though which I think people generally miss: for us britts who won't be going to Greece or some obscure place in Wales to gaze upon some ancient relics of a deceased culture, there are perfectly good substitutes here, easier and cheaper to access. I wonder how many people visit these places after reading these articles and I wonder if that's their real design........... After people gratify themselves over the moral side of the story though of course, we wouldn't put the effort in visiting something without first establishing its rarity or significance now would we.
Well written Aleksa. The exact definition of the word “shrewd” is – Tokugawa.
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I have a house not far from there in Mexico. There could be government activity with a secret base ….. but mostly it's a very poor region with very few people. Occoms razor would point to there just not needing to be cellular towers there.
Imagine 2021 without a fee adblocker on your phone
hopefully they do a dna test on him if they can. it’d be interesting to tell if he is PIE or Native Pre-European etc.
This device was used to make gloves. The different holes are finger sizes. See this young girl knit a glove with this device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOLqOgkWerg
This device was used to make gloves. The different holes are finger sizes. See this young girl knit a glove with this device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOLqOgkWerg
Also, could a leather pouch have been placed inside to allow the item to be weighted to hold items against wind. Tents perhaps. Maybe they could be used on cordage for depth measurements in rivers. Exciting!
Just looking at them and thinking about the wax found in one or more, I was wondering if these could be warming devices for food. The devise would have 5 points down and up on opposite sides making it stable to hold a plate or bowl. It would allow for larger or smaller fires by sliding sticks of different sizes into the holes and could possibly keep the smoke from rising higher. Candle could be used as starter for wood. Just an idea
Yes, I too have seen these “Illusionists” in Market Street, and you know that it is a trick, just like the tricks done by magicians, illiusionists and various other names they prefer to use, eventhough you cannot always see how they do it, quite often due to misdirection.
Mentalists do the same, and many “fake” psychics are in fact mentalists, and I was not the flavour of the month, when I pointed it out to a friend of mine that two people, whom he felt were “good” were in fact only good mentalists. The first one, would always arrive about 5 minutes before the “meeting” (more of a show really) was to commence. He would then folow the protocols of a “medium”, and start by giving a description of the spirit coming through. Then bring the message, and in the end, (wait for it) bring the proof (which magicians call “the reveal”) and people fell for the BIG REVEAL, and swallowed it hook line and sinker. It was e.g. that they arrived in a red car, a Volkswagen, with a broken tail light, and then give the registration number. – I pointed out to my friend that these were the people who arrived just before he did (i.e. into the hall, as he would always go to the bathroom to “freshen up” so no one would notice he arrived at the same time as they did). We went to another meeting, and waited to go in, until HE had gone in, and took note of registration numbers, and lo and behold, I proved my point.
There are however people, who do have the gift, and I do not wish to detract from them their true gift and abiity.
My friend then fell for a man who was introducing a spiritual collective called MICHAEL. He had paid a pretty penny to take part in his workshops. He was then granted a “private” audience, and was permitted to bring someone with him. He chose me. I listened to everything the man had to say, and the man had a “message” for me too. After we left, my friend asked me if I was now convinced. – I replied “Quite the contrary”. He was floored, and asked me why? I told him, that I had received training from MUFON how to investigate sightings, and had implemented that knowledge. I then asked him if he had seen the books in his hotel room. He said he hadn’t paid any attention to them. I told him that the few books he had there, dealt with the same topic he spoke of, and the descriptions were a quotation out of one of them, namely 2010 by Arthur C. Clarke, which I had read. I told my friend that I could either lend him the book, or I could look up the chapter the man had quoted. He was very disheartened.
Just because there are many tricksters in this world (incl. sales men and women), does not mean that all things are lies. We were given the freedom of choice in the Garden on Eden, and must excercise it wisely and must be mature enough to accept the responsibility that comes with it, i.e. be mature enough to accept the consequences of our choices. We are told by God, to Read AND Study the scriptures, and ponder them in our hearts, and THEN take it to the LORD and ask if our understanding is right, if it is correct The Holy Spirit will make our hearts burn as confirmation, else we shall have a stupour of thought. The more we study the writings with PURE INTENT, the more we will have The Holy Spirit to guide us, and as stated above, even the “hidden things” will be “revealed”.
The early Hebrews were very eager to have everything “revealed” to them during their Exodus, and the apocalypse (greek for revelation) arrived in the form of the Tabernacle and all the ordinances related to it; But because they didn’t make the effort, it didn’t benefit them. The same is happening in this world today, people are being played. I don’t mind the street artists, whom I look at as entertainers and the act as amusement, but I do mind politicians and the nouveu rich who blindsight people so they can stay rich and keep the poor, poor.
Please keep an open albeit critical mind, and don’t lose sight of the truth just because you’ve met nine liars, as the tenth person might just hold the key to your salvation.
I didn’t mean, that visualization can make a mat fly, but through it, you can connect with the almighty, and obtain wisdom of even that which is hidden (often in plain sight), through which you will gain a deeper understanding, thus enabling you to make such things, until such time as you yourself will be perfected to the point where you will be able to levitate, fly, or even exercise BILOCATION (Remote Viewing).
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