Hi Senowsret, The term Copt does not refer to foreign white people who call themselves “Copts”. According to the ancient Egyptian scribes and priests the original ancient Egyptians came from EAST/CENTRAL AFRICA in the GREAT LAKES area where the FIRST NILE RIVER began, also known as the “white Nile”. I guess that you are disputing the ancient Black Egyptians “Book of the Dead”? The ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead states as follow: “WE CAME FROM WHERE THE NILE BEGAN, AND WHERE GOD HAPI DWELL, AT THE FOOTHILLS OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE MOON” hunefer papyrus I knew that you would even dispute the ancient Black Egyptians words about where they came from, especially since they never stated that they were white and originated out of Europa. I can see that you have a problem with accepting defeat when it comes to deciding to drop your ridiculous and meaningless claims about anient Black Egyptians being white people. later
Hi Senowsret, The term Copt does not refer to foreign white people who call themselves “Copts”. According to the ancient Egyptian scribes and priests the original ancient Egyptians came from EAST/CENTRAL AFRICA in the GREAT LAKES area where the FIRST NILE RIVER began, also known as the “white Nile”. I guess that you are disputing the ancient Black Egyptians “Book of the Dead”? The ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead states as follow: “WE CAME FROM WHERE THE NILE BEGAN, AND WHERE GOD HAPI DWELL, AT THE FOOTHILLS OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE MOON” hunefer papyrus I knew that you would even dispute the ancient Black Egyptians words about where they came from, especially since they never stated that they were white and originated out of Europa. I can see that you have a problem with accepting defeat when it comes to deciding to drop your ridiculous and meaningless claims about anient Black Egyptians being white people. later
I never intended to denigrate the skills or capabilities of my ancestors. I never said they were not responsible for the artefacts - they most likely cold forged those, but as I said, there is evidence of ancient bog iron smelters in Ohio, so some native group apparently did use even harder metals.
My point is only that their artefacts can’t account for the millions of tons of copper that was mined from the Great Lakes area. They most surely processed it, but some other group (Atlanteans or Phonecians most likely) were the ones who organized and supervised the mining, casting, and shipping on such a large scale. Those ingots have been found in a shipwreck off the coast of Greece, and it’s pretty certain that Native Americans didn’t put them there.
I have been returned to my ancestral Germanic Pagan faith for nearly 30+ yrs as of now. I take SERIOUS issue with this guys statements that Folkish people are racists or promote “White Supremacy”. It’s not just factually wrong but outright scummy as well.
Fact is, We believe all people have their ancestral traditions and have the right to keep those traditions “within” the ancestry. The bloodline if you will. No one in this ridiculous era would suggest a Navajo who believed only Navajos should practice their ancestral faith was promoting “Native Supremacy”. No, these self serving woke-tard pandering sentiments are only leveled at White, specifically Northern European people. And I personally will not have it.
Now i don’t deny that people have used symbols, Gods, etc to promote their causes. But let’s be honest here, most of those groups and people are gone. The Klan, skinheads, etc have become all but a joke at this point. And to be more precise, i have never held the vast majority of their beliefs. I don’t hate other people. I simply love my own more. And I would expect nothing less from any other race/person. And if a person did sell out their own people for mine I would see them as weak, cowardly and untrustable.
The majority of people, like Caleb here, who comment on Folkish Pagans haven’t the foggiest clue what it really means to be Folkish. Like I said, I don’t hate other people. But likewise, I wish to see my heritage remain intact and will do all I can see that happen. And I will never apologize for it.
Hi Senowsret, First of all, the word COPT can mean whatever anyone want it to mean, and if it meant indiginous native Egyptians and not foreign invaders, then the term would simply apply only to the ancient Black Egyptians who originated from east/central Africa in the GREAT LAKES AREA according to their own highly educated scribes, which was approved by ALL OF THE ANCIENT EGYPTIAN PRIESTS before it was publicized. The fact that the East Central African area where the ancient Egyptians originated was inhabited by 100% BLACK AFRICANS leaves no doubt in my mind that there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT ANY WHITE AFRICANS CAME FROM THAT LOCATION ha ha ha. The Egyptian Book of the Dead states very clearly where they came from, and so it reads: “WE CAME FROM WHERE THE NILE BEGAN, AND WHERE GOD HAPI DWELL, AT THE FOOTHILLS OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE MOON” hunefer papyrus I can see that you indeed have a very serious “INFERIORITY COMPLEX” in your FAILED EFFORTS TO CLAIM ANCIENT BLACK EGYPTIAN ANCESTRY. It is alright for you to be white, and not try to identify with ancient Black peoples marvelous civilizations...Also, I don’t believe anything that comes out of the writings of white supremacists that is suppose to explain anything about ancient Black people and their “Idolized” civilizations worldwide.. Ancient Egyptians/Nubians were the same race of Black people with a slightly different culture, and the “Hieroglyphic” written language was created by the Black Nubians, which was given the name “Hieroglyphics” by the Black Egyptians, according to the ancient Greek historian by the name of DIODORUS SICULUS. There was a very thin boundary line between what separated NUBIA and EGYPT, and like many older brothers and sisters, it is a fact that they often fought with each other same as my older brothers liked to attack me during my preteen years, and that is natural in many families.. later
So if you don't like the actual 12th dynasty statue of Senoswret III from the Egyptian Museum, what do you think of King Tut’s grannie, mother of Great Royal Wife of King Akhenaten, Nefertiti ? Her mummy also fake? Tell Great Royal Wife of Amenhotep III, Tiye,she black to her face. HAHA
You are a sad individual with a terrible, dare I say , inferiority complex.
Behold:
The term Copt designates the native population of Egypt, as opposed to the various invaders or settlers (Nubians,Greeks, Romans, Arabs, etc.) that came to Egypt from other countries.
The word Copt was adopted in English in the 17th century, from New Latin Coptus, Cophtus, which is derived from Arabic collective qubṭ, qibṭ قبط "the Copts" with nisba adjective qubṭī, qibṭī قبطي, plural aqbāṭ أقباط; Also quftī, qiftī, Arabic /f/ representing historical Coptic /p/. an Arabisation of the Coptic word kubti (Bohairic) and/or kuptaion (Sahidic). The Coptic word is in turn an adaptation of the Greek Αἰγύπτιος "Egyptian".
After the Muslim conquest of Egypt, the term Copt became restricted to those Egyptians who remained adhering to the Christian religion.
In their own Coptic language, which represents the final stage of the Egyptian language, the Copts referred to themselves as rem en kēme (Sahidic) ⲣⲙⲛⲕⲏⲙⲉ, lem en kēmi (Fayyumic), rem en khēmi (Bohairic) ⲣⲉⲙ̀ⲛⲭⲏⲙⲓ, which literally means "people of Egypt" or "Egyptians"; cf. Egyptians rmṯ n kmt, Demotic rmt n kmỉ.
Copts take particular pride in their Egyptian identity. Over the centuries, they have always rejected and fought against other identities that foreign rulers attempted to force upon them, stressing their own Egyptian identity. While an integral part of their society, Copts remained culturally and religiously distinct from their surroundings.
Again Nubians are Black, Egyptians are White and never even shared a common language, nor script! Nubian language and customs are about as related to Egyptian as Mandarin Chinese !
Furthermore our good friend Senoswret III(Sesostris,in Kione Greek), didn't think much of the Semna(ancient middle Egyptian language for Nubian):
The Semna Stela of Sesostris III
This is an inscription from a stela (one of a pair) that were erected as boundary stela by Sesostris IIIin Year 16 of his reign, it describes his action on the Nubians (who as the stela indicates attacked first).
The living Horus: Divine of Form; the Two Ladies: Divine of Birth; the King of Upper and Lower Egypt: Khakaure, given life; the living Gold-Horus: Being; the Son of Re's body, his beloved, the Lord of the Two Lands: Sesostris, given life-stability-health forever. Year 16, third month of winter: the king made his southern boundary at Heh:
I have made my boundary further south than my fathers, I have added to what was bequeathed me. I am a king who speaks and acts, What my heart plans is done by my arm. One who attacks to conquer, who is swift to succeed, ln whose heart a plan does not slumber. Considerate to clients, steady in mercy, Merciless to the foe who attacks him. One who attacks him who would attack, Who stops when one stops, Who replies to a matter as befits it. To stop when attacked is to make bold the foe's heart, Attack is valor, retreat is cowardice, A coward is he who is driven from his border. Since the Nubian listens to the word of mouth, To answer him is to make him retreat. Attack him, he will turn his back, Retreat, he will start attacking. They are not people one respects, They are wretches, craven-hearted. My majesty has seen it, it is not an untruth. I have captured their women, I have carried off their subjects, Went to their wells, killed their cattle, Cut down their grain, set fire to it. As my father lives for me, I speak the truth! It is no boast that comes from my mouth.
As for any son of mine who shall maintain this border which my majesty has made, he is my son, born to my majesty. The. true son is he who champions his father, who guards the border of his begetter. But he who abandons it, who fails to fight for it, he is not my son, he was not born to me.
Now my majesty has had an image made of my majesty, at this border which my majesty has made, in order that you maintain it, in order that you fight for it.
Hi Senowsret, So NOW, Black Egyptians who refuse to be RACISTLY classied by the white racist American census Bureau are not Black according to you ha ha ha? That proud Black Egyptian immigrant to the USA is more Egyptian than white people like you will ever be. By the way, ancient Egyptians and Nubians are of the same Black race, and so were the other ancient Black north, east, west, south and central Africans. The white race came from northern barbaric Europa and are not even Caucasian, but are simply white people same as you, without any documented history dating back earlier than 1000 BCE, a time when ancient Black Africans had been living civilized constructive lives while building great civilizations for more than 2,000 years prior. By the way COPTIC is not a race, and there are Black Egyptians who are Coptic, as well as the white leftovers from the british colonial era who also refer to themselves as Coptics. i call them the $5 dollar Coptics who want to claim a new identity.. Also you have no culture that I wish to steal, which would be like me trying to steal a stale cookie from your mama’s cookie jar that had several roaches inside ha ha ha.. later Mr. wanna be ancient Egyptian man
Hi Senowsret, So NOW, Black Egyptians who refuse to be RACISTLY classied by the white racist American census Bureau are not Black according to you ha ha ha? That proud Black Egyptian immigrant to the USA is more Egyptian than white people like you will ever be. By the way, ancient Egyptians and Nubians are of the same Black race, and so were the other ancient Black north, east, west, south and central Africans. The white race came from northern barbaric Europa and are not even Caucasian, but are simply white people same as you, without any documented history dating back earlier than 1000 BCE, a time when ancient Black Africans had been living civilized constructive lives while building great civilizations for more than 2,000 years prior. By the way COPTIC is not a race, and there are Black Egyptians who are Coptic, as well as the white leftovers from the british colonial era who also refer to themselves as Coptics. i call them the $5 dollar Coptics who want to claim a new identity.. Also you have no culture that I wish to steal, which would be like me trying to steal a stale cookie from your mama’s cookie jar that had several roaches inside ha ha ha.. later Mr. wanna be ancient Egyptian man
According to supposed authorities I have read, some people were refining ‘bog iron’ about 4000 years ago in the area of the Ohio river valley. And there is evidence of ceramic molds in a huge community at Poverty Point, La. used in making ingots of copper that was mined in the Great Lakes area. That made ox-hide shaped molds that weighed approximately 60 pounds, the ‘talents’ that were known as a measure of value in the Bible. It’s just not known for sure who actually organized the mining and smelting of millions of TONS of copper, nor where it actually went, but natives almost assuredly performed the actual labor.
Hi Senowsret, You just made me laugh so hard when you posted that old “Race Classification” that was created by the white racist American CENSUS BUREAU so many decades ago, and many people complained about that stupid racist nonsense which served no legitimate purpose. There were several dark skin Black Egyptians arriving in the USA who was told that they had to check the (white race box) for race, and they filed a RACIAL DISCRIMINATION lawsuit with the courts, as well as a formal complaint with the American Census Bureau. The video is on U-TUBE and has been viewed by more than 1 million viewers. One well educated Black Egyptian man who immigrated to the USA was threatened with loss of his job if he did not choose to be identified as a white person ha ha, and he vehemently REFUSED, and stated that he was a PROUD BLACK EGYPTIAN MAN,and would not classify himself as being a white or any other race of person. There has been MANY BLACK EGYPTIANS who has been ordered to accept a white race classification,and they have refused, Only white people like you who will NEVER have ancient Black Egyptian ancestry, classify themselves as white because that is your race and you are not racially connected to ancient Black Egyptians. Also, white people can only identify themselves, and they don’t know how to perform that task, especially since they want to claim to be related to ancient Black Egyptians, as well as all other Black North Africans.. That RACIST American Census can be stuck where the sun don’t shine as far as Black Egyptians, Americans, etc is concerned.. Even the late Black Egyptian President name Anwar Sadat was quoted in the Los Angeles Times Newspaper while I was still a student at CSULB during a meeting with Political Black Caucus Members that he was # 1 African by race, and #2 Arab by culture. Anwar Sadat’s mother was a proud Black SUDANESE woman and his father was a white Englishman from the colonial days, but he identified himself as a Black African, and knew that he had ancient BLACK EGYPTIAN ancsestry.. BLACK and PROUD
So as soon as the Ice-Age ended various cultures started working copper. Well the natural pure form anyway. Pity the Native North Americans never learned any form of smelting metals.
Your insecurity and covetousness is rather sad. By the way I and my fellow Copts, direct Egyptian speaking descendants of the Pharoahs, proudly filled out the racial portion of the recent Census racial question as White!
From US Census Bureau
Science is REAL
[White:
The category “White” includes all individuals who identify with one or more nationalities or ethnic groups originating in Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. Examples of these groups include, but are not limited to, German, Irish, English, Italian, Lebanese, Egyptian, Polish, French, Iranian, Slavic, Cajun, and Chaldean.
Black or African American:
The category “Black or African American” includes all individuals who identify with one or more nationalities or ethnic groups originating in any of the black racial groups of Africa. Examples of these groups include, but are not limited to, African American, Jamaican, Haitian, Nigerian, Ethiopian, and Somali. The category also includes groups such as Ghanaian, South African, Barbadian, Kenyan, Liberian, and Bahamian.]
Emphasized word:”ORIGINATING “
To sum it up, today’s White Egyptians are the same as their ORIGINAL White ancient Egyptian ancestors.
Hi Senowsret You keep on telling me about some Euroentric person who has a racist mind same as you, and who states the same old boring rhetoric in a book/article as if it makes sense ha ha ha. I don’t care about the skin color of Black Egyptians, I only look at the race, regardless if the Black Egyptians has yellow/reddish skin like myself, or if their skin color is the same as actors Denzell Washington and Wesley Snipes, or Sidney Poitier, because light skin color does not change the Black race, same as dark skin color does not make a southern Indian (India) a Black person. Black Egyptians with lighter skin are just as much Black race as one with darker skin, which is SAME AS IN AMERICA AND EUROPA. Skin color alone does not define the Black race buddy.. I guess that a pale white skin Scandinavian are the only white people on earth, and the ones with yellow skin are not white ha ha. later
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Hi Senowsret, The term Copt does not refer to foreign white people who call themselves “Copts”. According to the ancient Egyptian scribes and priests the original ancient Egyptians came from EAST/CENTRAL AFRICA in the GREAT LAKES area where the FIRST NILE RIVER began, also known as the “white Nile”. I guess that you are disputing the ancient Black Egyptians “Book of the Dead”? The ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead states as follow: “WE CAME FROM WHERE THE NILE BEGAN, AND WHERE GOD HAPI DWELL, AT THE FOOTHILLS OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE MOON” hunefer papyrus I knew that you would even dispute the ancient Black Egyptians words about where they came from, especially since they never stated that they were white and originated out of Europa. I can see that you have a problem with accepting defeat when it comes to deciding to drop your ridiculous and meaningless claims about anient Black Egyptians being white people. later
Hi Senowsret, The term Copt does not refer to foreign white people who call themselves “Copts”. According to the ancient Egyptian scribes and priests the original ancient Egyptians came from EAST/CENTRAL AFRICA in the GREAT LAKES area where the FIRST NILE RIVER began, also known as the “white Nile”. I guess that you are disputing the ancient Black Egyptians “Book of the Dead”? The ancient Egyptian Book of the Dead states as follow: “WE CAME FROM WHERE THE NILE BEGAN, AND WHERE GOD HAPI DWELL, AT THE FOOTHILLS OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE MOON” hunefer papyrus I knew that you would even dispute the ancient Black Egyptians words about where they came from, especially since they never stated that they were white and originated out of Europa. I can see that you have a problem with accepting defeat when it comes to deciding to drop your ridiculous and meaningless claims about anient Black Egyptians being white people. later
I never intended to denigrate the skills or capabilities of my ancestors. I never said they were not responsible for the artefacts - they most likely cold forged those, but as I said, there is evidence of ancient bog iron smelters in Ohio, so some native group apparently did use even harder metals.
My point is only that their artefacts can’t account for the millions of tons of copper that was mined from the Great Lakes area. They most surely processed it, but some other group (Atlanteans or Phonecians most likely) were the ones who organized and supervised the mining, casting, and shipping on such a large scale. Those ingots have been found in a shipwreck off the coast of Greece, and it’s pretty certain that Native Americans didn’t put them there.
I have been returned to my ancestral Germanic Pagan faith for nearly 30+ yrs as of now. I take SERIOUS issue with this guys statements that Folkish people are racists or promote “White Supremacy”. It’s not just factually wrong but outright scummy as well.
Fact is, We believe all people have their ancestral traditions and have the right to keep those traditions “within” the ancestry. The bloodline if you will. No one in this ridiculous era would suggest a Navajo who believed only Navajos should practice their ancestral faith was promoting “Native Supremacy”. No, these self serving woke-tard pandering sentiments are only leveled at White, specifically Northern European people. And I personally will not have it.
Now i don’t deny that people have used symbols, Gods, etc to promote their causes. But let’s be honest here, most of those groups and people are gone. The Klan, skinheads, etc have become all but a joke at this point. And to be more precise, i have never held the vast majority of their beliefs. I don’t hate other people. I simply love my own more. And I would expect nothing less from any other race/person. And if a person did sell out their own people for mine I would see them as weak, cowardly and untrustable.
The majority of people, like Caleb here, who comment on Folkish Pagans haven’t the foggiest clue what it really means to be Folkish. Like I said, I don’t hate other people. But likewise, I wish to see my heritage remain intact and will do all I can see that happen. And I will never apologize for it.
You are welcome.
Hi Senowsret, First of all, the word COPT can mean whatever anyone want it to mean, and if it meant indiginous native Egyptians and not foreign invaders, then the term would simply apply only to the ancient Black Egyptians who originated from east/central Africa in the GREAT LAKES AREA according to their own highly educated scribes, which was approved by ALL OF THE ANCIENT EGYPTIAN PRIESTS before it was publicized. The fact that the East Central African area where the ancient Egyptians originated was inhabited by 100% BLACK AFRICANS leaves no doubt in my mind that there is NO WAY IN HELL THAT ANY WHITE AFRICANS CAME FROM THAT LOCATION ha ha ha. The Egyptian Book of the Dead states very clearly where they came from, and so it reads: “WE CAME FROM WHERE THE NILE BEGAN, AND WHERE GOD HAPI DWELL, AT THE FOOTHILLS OF THE MOUNTAIN OF THE MOON” hunefer papyrus I can see that you indeed have a very serious “INFERIORITY COMPLEX” in your FAILED EFFORTS TO CLAIM ANCIENT BLACK EGYPTIAN ANCESTRY. It is alright for you to be white, and not try to identify with ancient Black peoples marvelous civilizations...Also, I don’t believe anything that comes out of the writings of white supremacists that is suppose to explain anything about ancient Black people and their “Idolized” civilizations worldwide.. Ancient Egyptians/Nubians were the same race of Black people with a slightly different culture, and the “Hieroglyphic” written language was created by the Black Nubians, which was given the name “Hieroglyphics” by the Black Egyptians, according to the ancient Greek historian by the name of DIODORUS SICULUS. There was a very thin boundary line between what separated NUBIA and EGYPT, and like many older brothers and sisters, it is a fact that they often fought with each other same as my older brothers liked to attack me during my preteen years, and that is natural in many families.. later
Sir Charles,
So if you don't like the actual 12th dynasty statue of Senoswret III from the Egyptian Museum, what do you think of King Tut’s grannie, mother of Great Royal Wife of King Akhenaten, Nefertiti ? Her mummy also fake? Tell Great Royal Wife of Amenhotep III, Tiye,she black to her face. HAHA
https://www.laetitialab.it/
You are a sad individual with a terrible, dare I say , inferiority complex.
Behold:
The term Copt designates the native population of Egypt, as opposed to the various invaders or settlers (Nubians,Greeks, Romans, Arabs, etc.) that came to Egypt from other countries.
The word Copt was adopted in English in the 17th century, from New Latin Coptus, Cophtus, which is derived from Arabic collective qubṭ, qibṭ قبط "the Copts" with nisba adjective qubṭī, qibṭī قبطي, plural aqbāṭ أقباط; Also quftī, qiftī, Arabic /f/ representing historical Coptic /p/. an Arabisation of the Coptic word kubti (Bohairic) and/or kuptaion (Sahidic). The Coptic word is in turn an adaptation of the Greek Αἰγύπτιος "Egyptian".
After the Muslim conquest of Egypt, the term Copt became restricted to those Egyptians who remained adhering to the Christian religion.
In their own Coptic language, which represents the final stage of the Egyptian language, the Copts referred to themselves as rem en kēme (Sahidic) ⲣⲙⲛⲕⲏⲙⲉ, lem en kēmi (Fayyumic), rem en khēmi (Bohairic) ⲣⲉⲙ̀ⲛⲭⲏⲙⲓ, which literally means "people of Egypt" or "Egyptians"; cf. Egyptians rmṯ n kmt, Demotic rmt n kmỉ.
Copts take particular pride in their Egyptian identity. Over the centuries, they have always rejected and fought against other identities that foreign rulers attempted to force upon them, stressing their own Egyptian identity. While an integral part of their society, Copts remained culturally and religiously distinct from their surroundings.
ⲚⲓⲢⲉⲙ̀ⲛⲭⲏⲙⲓ ̀ⲛ̀Ⲭⲣⲏⲥⲧⲓ̀ⲁⲛⲟⲥ
Again Nubians are Black, Egyptians are White and never even shared a common language, nor script! Nubian language and customs are about as related to Egyptian as Mandarin Chinese !
Furthermore our good friend Senoswret III(Sesostris,in Kione Greek), didn't think much of the Semna(ancient middle Egyptian language for Nubian):
The Semna Stela of Sesostris III
This is an inscription from a stela (one of a pair) that were erected as boundary stela by Sesostris IIIin Year 16 of his reign, it describes his action on the Nubians (who as the stela indicates attacked first).
The living Horus: Divine of Form; the Two Ladies: Divine of Birth; the King of Upper and Lower Egypt: Khakaure, given life; the living Gold-Horus: Being; the Son of Re's body, his beloved, the Lord of the Two Lands: Sesostris, given life-stability-health forever. Year 16, third month of winter: the king made his southern boundary at Heh:
I have made my boundary further south than my fathers,
I have added to what was bequeathed me.
I am a king who speaks and acts,
What my heart plans is done by my arm.
One who attacks to conquer, who is swift to succeed,
ln whose heart a plan does not slumber.
Considerate to clients, steady in mercy,
Merciless to the foe who attacks him.
One who attacks him who would attack,
Who stops when one stops,
Who replies to a matter as befits it.
To stop when attacked is to make bold the foe's heart,
Attack is valor, retreat is cowardice,
A coward is he who is driven from his border.
Since the Nubian listens to the word of mouth,
To answer him is to make him retreat.
Attack him, he will turn his back,
Retreat, he will start attacking.
They are not people one respects,
They are wretches, craven-hearted.
My majesty has seen it, it is not an untruth.
I have captured their women,
I have carried off their subjects,
Went to their wells, killed their cattle,
Cut down their grain, set fire to it.
As my father lives for me, I speak the truth!
It is no boast that comes from my mouth.
As for any son of mine who shall maintain this border which my majesty has made, he is my son, born to my majesty. The. true son is he who champions his father, who guards the border of his begetter. But he who abandons it, who fails to fight for it, he is not my son, he was not born to me.
Now my majesty has had an image made of my majesty, at this border which my majesty has made, in order that you maintain it, in order that you fight for it.
http://ib205.tripod.com/semna_stela.html
Hi Senowsret, So NOW, Black Egyptians who refuse to be RACISTLY classied by the white racist American census Bureau are not Black according to you ha ha ha? That proud Black Egyptian immigrant to the USA is more Egyptian than white people like you will ever be. By the way, ancient Egyptians and Nubians are of the same Black race, and so were the other ancient Black north, east, west, south and central Africans. The white race came from northern barbaric Europa and are not even Caucasian, but are simply white people same as you, without any documented history dating back earlier than 1000 BCE, a time when ancient Black Africans had been living civilized constructive lives while building great civilizations for more than 2,000 years prior. By the way COPTIC is not a race, and there are Black Egyptians who are Coptic, as well as the white leftovers from the british colonial era who also refer to themselves as Coptics. i call them the $5 dollar Coptics who want to claim a new identity.. Also you have no culture that I wish to steal, which would be like me trying to steal a stale cookie from your mama’s cookie jar that had several roaches inside ha ha ha.. later Mr. wanna be ancient Egyptian man
Hi Senowsret, So NOW, Black Egyptians who refuse to be RACISTLY classied by the white racist American census Bureau are not Black according to you ha ha ha? That proud Black Egyptian immigrant to the USA is more Egyptian than white people like you will ever be. By the way, ancient Egyptians and Nubians are of the same Black race, and so were the other ancient Black north, east, west, south and central Africans. The white race came from northern barbaric Europa and are not even Caucasian, but are simply white people same as you, without any documented history dating back earlier than 1000 BCE, a time when ancient Black Africans had been living civilized constructive lives while building great civilizations for more than 2,000 years prior. By the way COPTIC is not a race, and there are Black Egyptians who are Coptic, as well as the white leftovers from the british colonial era who also refer to themselves as Coptics. i call them the $5 dollar Coptics who want to claim a new identity.. Also you have no culture that I wish to steal, which would be like me trying to steal a stale cookie from your mama’s cookie jar that had several roaches inside ha ha ha.. later Mr. wanna be ancient Egyptian man
Considering they were the culture that were responsible for these artefacts, you're just racist!
Maybe these people had been using copper for quite a long time before the younger dryas event? Which would have been around the same time frame.
But as another person says 'No one gets paid to tell the truth.' Honestly, what a load of bollocks!
Although I'm happy for you to donate to my paypal. Haha!
According to supposed authorities I have read, some people were refining ‘bog iron’ about 4000 years ago in the area of the Ohio river valley. And there is evidence of ceramic molds in a huge community at Poverty Point, La. used in making ingots of copper that was mined in the Great Lakes area. That made ox-hide shaped molds that weighed approximately 60 pounds, the ‘talents’ that were known as a measure of value in the Bible. It’s just not known for sure who actually organized the mining and smelting of millions of TONS of copper, nor where it actually went, but natives almost assuredly performed the actual labor.
Hi Senowsret, You just made me laugh so hard when you posted that old “Race Classification” that was created by the white racist American CENSUS BUREAU so many decades ago, and many people complained about that stupid racist nonsense which served no legitimate purpose. There were several dark skin Black Egyptians arriving in the USA who was told that they had to check the (white race box) for race, and they filed a RACIAL DISCRIMINATION lawsuit with the courts, as well as a formal complaint with the American Census Bureau. The video is on U-TUBE and has been viewed by more than 1 million viewers. One well educated Black Egyptian man who immigrated to the USA was threatened with loss of his job if he did not choose to be identified as a white person ha ha, and he vehemently REFUSED, and stated that he was a PROUD BLACK EGYPTIAN MAN,and would not classify himself as being a white or any other race of person. There has been MANY BLACK EGYPTIANS who has been ordered to accept a white race classification,and they have refused, Only white people like you who will NEVER have ancient Black Egyptian ancestry, classify themselves as white because that is your race and you are not racially connected to ancient Black Egyptians. Also, white people can only identify themselves, and they don’t know how to perform that task, especially since they want to claim to be related to ancient Black Egyptians, as well as all other Black North Africans.. That RACIST American Census can be stuck where the sun don’t shine as far as Black Egyptians, Americans, etc is concerned.. Even the late Black Egyptian President name Anwar Sadat was quoted in the Los Angeles Times Newspaper while I was still a student at CSULB during a meeting with Political Black Caucus Members that he was # 1 African by race, and #2 Arab by culture. Anwar Sadat’s mother was a proud Black SUDANESE woman and his father was a white Englishman from the colonial days, but he identified himself as a Black African, and knew that he had ancient BLACK EGYPTIAN ancsestry.. BLACK and PROUD
So as soon as the Ice-Age ended various cultures started working copper. Well the natural pure form anyway. Pity the Native North Americans never learned any form of smelting metals.
Thank you Bruce!
Silly hotep,
Your insecurity and covetousness is rather sad. By the way I and my fellow Copts, direct Egyptian speaking descendants of the Pharoahs, proudly filled out the racial portion of the recent Census racial question as White!
From US Census Bureau
Science is REAL
[White:
The category “White” includes all individuals who identify with one or more nationalities or ethnic groups originating in Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. Examples of these groups include, but are not limited to, German, Irish, English, Italian, Lebanese, Egyptian, Polish, French, Iranian, Slavic, Cajun, and Chaldean.
Black or African American:
The category “Black or African American” includes all individuals who identify with one or more nationalities or ethnic groups originating in any of the black racial groups of Africa. Examples of these groups include, but are not limited to, African American, Jamaican, Haitian, Nigerian, Ethiopian, and Somali. The category also includes groups such as Ghanaian, South African, Barbadian, Kenyan, Liberian, and Bahamian.]
Emphasized word:”ORIGINATING “
To sum it up, today’s White Egyptians are the same as their ORIGINAL White ancient Egyptian ancestors.
Hi Senowsret You keep on telling me about some Euroentric person who has a racist mind same as you, and who states the same old boring rhetoric in a book/article as if it makes sense ha ha ha. I don’t care about the skin color of Black Egyptians, I only look at the race, regardless if the Black Egyptians has yellow/reddish skin like myself, or if their skin color is the same as actors Denzell Washington and Wesley Snipes, or Sidney Poitier, because light skin color does not change the Black race, same as dark skin color does not make a southern Indian (India) a Black person. Black Egyptians with lighter skin are just as much Black race as one with darker skin, which is SAME AS IN AMERICA AND EUROPA. Skin color alone does not define the Black race buddy.. I guess that a pale white skin Scandinavian are the only white people on earth, and the ones with yellow skin are not white ha ha. later
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