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The Truth Behind the Christ Myth: Ancient Origins of the Often Used Legend – Part I

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What is the origin of the legend of the Christed Son who was born of a virgin on December 25th? I am sure you are familiar with his legend which states that he was born in a manger surrounded by shepherds and then grew up to be One with his Father in Heaven.  And most certainly you recall the sequence of events when this Christed Son gathered together his important disciples before enduring his death by torture and his subsequent resurrection. And, finally, there is the scene at the end of his time on Earth when he prophesied his return and then ascended into Heaven.

Now for my question to you: Who amongst you is now mumbling under his or her breath “This can only be the legend of the Christians’ Jesus Christ”?  Well…to the rest of you, I would like to inform you that many years before the birth of Jesus a legend identical to his was the accepted life story of the Persian Son of God, Mithras. And before Mithras, a very similar legend was ascribed to various other Sons of God worldwide, including the Greek Dionysus, the Egyptian Osiris, the Sumerian Dammuzi, and the Hindu Murugan. In fact, if we keep going back in time many thousands of years earlier we will discover that this universal legend actually began with the Green Man, the Son of a virgin Goddess who was born, died, and finally resurrected each and every year.     

So how did this oft-used legend eventually become chosen to be the legend of Jesus? Let us begin when it was the life story of the ancient Green Man and work forward to the time of the Christian Son of God. 

The Ancient Green Man

During the Neolithic Age, which was the era when, as some say, “God was a Woman,” the Goddess and Her Son, the Green Man, were venerated by people worldwide for annually bringing forth the Earth’s material abundance. A universal legend about them arose that began with the annual impregnation of the “virgin” Earth Goddess by the Sun, the “Father in Heaven,” and the subsequent birth of Her Son, the Green Man. This important event occurred annually at the time of the Winter Solstice, when the spirit of the Green Man that had been slumbering underground in the underworld was shaken back to life. But although his dormant spirit had been stirred, it was not yet fully awake. This did not occur until a few days later, on December 25th, when the Sun or Solar Spirit completely reversed its downward path and took measurable steps along a northerly route.

This was an important “As Above, So Below” event. It was believed the renewed and revitalized Solar Spirit above in the Heavens had re-awakened and revitalized the spirit of his Son below and inside the Earth.  And now the future Green Man could begin his annual gestation period with the womb of his mother, the virginal Earth, in anticipation of receiving a new, resurrected body in the spring. 

Sculpture of Green Man at festival.

Sculpture of Green Man at festival. ( CC BY-NC-SA 2.0 )

The legend of the Goddess and Green Man then skips to the Vernal Equinox, when the Green Man is ready to finally emerge from the womb of his mother. This is the time when the “male” light equals the “female” darkness, and their male-female polarity fully unites to produce a fresh infusion of life force to cover and fertilize the land. The fetal body of the Green Man is now ready to push out of the womb of his mother Earth in the form of the new tender sprouts of spring. Soon, his annual resurrection will be complete. This will occur on or around the same day as our Easter, a modern holiday associated with the much more recent resurrection of another Son of a virgin. 

The legend of the Green Man then covers the hot summer months, when the Son rapidly matures as the rapidly maturing vegetative growth of nature. He matures so fast, in fact, that the Green Man not only becomes One with his Father in Heaven, but he even mates with and inseminates his own mother. Their co-habitation produces a second infusion of the fructifying life force on Earth and manifests as a second proliferation of vegetation and accompanying harvest. Ultimately, this event would serve to hasten the Green Man’s demise, and soon he would die again with the decaying vegetation and the falling of leaves of autumn. The cause of his death? The sacerdotal interpreters of his legend would later assert that it occurred because of the sins of humanity. It was believed through original sin humanity had given up not only its own right, but the right of all life on Earth, to achieve eternal life.    


"Bis! Bis!"
One term that needs to be added here is: 'Hieros Gamos': the 'Holy Marriage' (between the 'gods'). A term that's used in many 'esoteric' organisations.

Actually Jesus of Nazareth was born on September 11th in a town called Bethlehem . A far as Him being The Actual Son of God incarnate . ....I Honestly Believe He Came here to earth ,walked among mortal man ,was Crucified and indeed resurected from the dead after taking away satans crown of authority and breaking the power of Sin upon mankind forevermore !!! Archeaological evidence is to Great to ignore or contest!! As far as mans worship of Astoreth , Isis ,urma, Venus ,jupiter, and Diana or any female deity of old,its evident that mans desires proved that worship of the Goddess's were more in order than worship of Jehovah the Creator or Giving of adoration to The True And Living God !! Man has always been rebellious in his choice of gods!!! The natural Sin nature testifies to that!! Man shoul seek the Obvious choice to spiritual freedom !! As i recall from history,there is No grave or seplecure, or tombstone for this teacher named " Jesus of Nazareth " !!!

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Wowza! I sure Reincarnated a lot!

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Jesus of Nazereth was in all probability a real person, however there are many things in the church teachings that simply do not add up. Having been brought up in the Christian faith, I started to have my doubts when reading the bible. I have since been trying to trace the origins of the legend of Jesus. He was only one of a long line of people said to have been born of a virgin, died on a cross and resurrected after 3 days. From what Jesus is reputed to have said, I don't think he meant to say he was the only son of God, I think he was misunderstood, his meaning was that we are all sons of god, himself included. The Roman Catholic Church was established a long time after he died, I believe they used the cult around Jesus to establish the church and embellished the legend with various beliefs already in existence in various other religions. For instance the legend of dying on the cross and being resurrected after 3 days has its origin in Egypt. The Egyptians took very careful note of the movement of the sun and noted the point at which it rose. In ancient times the sun would rise a little further south each day after midsummer and eventually on December 22 it would stop moving south, at which time it would rise in the Southern Cross constellation, thus it "died" on the cross. After 3 days the sun would rise in a more Northerly position and thus was resurrected or reborn. This is I believe where the legend of gods dying on the cross and being reborn originated. I dare say many people will not agree.

Odd name because Nazareth wasn’t around as a city until the 4th century. The mistranslation of the word “nazareth” was actually from the word “Nazarene” and had nothing to do with a town from which he hailed. Nazarene was a messianic religious sect of that time and it is widely speculated that Jesus was a member of it as well as John (baptist).

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No, the Nazareth area has been settled for at least 9,000 years according to the archaeological record. During Jesus’ life it likely had a population of between 400 and 500 people, hardly worthy of much surviving historical note other that of the contemporary historical records of Luke and Matthew. As far as the similarly sounding sect of Nazarenes, the brilliant translators didn’t confuse the two at all – John the Baptizer might well have been a member of the sect but Jesus certainly wasn’t.    

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Actually, "Professor", there is not one single shred of "archeological" evidence. And it doesn't much matter what you believe, does it.

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My, "Ball," aren't you the unpleasant one. Must have touched a nerve.

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The legends are interesting, and give us some light on what our ancesters thought, as it was a major part of their life. But the Green man represented the seasons, and was a part of the cosmetology, what we today call paganism, Worship of the created over the creator, human sacrifices, and bowing down to totems and idols, and comparing the 'Gods' with astrological bodies and even animals.

Not something the Hebrews and later Christians were supposed to embrace, though the Roman Church and others did anyway. Jesus was not born on the 25, much less even in the month of Decemer. Jesus did not 'grow up' to be come one with the Father in Heaven, he was one with him as a child. Jesus's sacrifice was indeed to atone for the sins of mankind, but he and the Judio-Christian religion teach that those who accept him and his sacrifice are not reincarnated, but resurrected, and physically changed at that time.

I believe the Gods of old legends were real, but that they are what we would call 'Devils' and Demons (spirits) today. The fallen ones of old that led humans astray and today seek their downfall.

We often hear people say, “If only Jews would return to the Law of Moses!
“Instead, they follow their secular, atheistic, and Zionist ways!”
They express horror at the recent deliberate slaughter of Gazans, particularly the slaughter of women and children. (1)
But haven’t these folks ever read the Jewish Bible? Are they unaware of the influence of the Old Testament on Judaism?
Please open your Jewish Bible. Turn to the Old Testament. For the moment, focus your attention on the Book of Numbers.
You are about to learn that Moses, the great “law giver,” was a war criminal who ORDERED his followers to commit war crimes. The most heinous were crimes were committed against women and children.
NUMBERS 31:13-18:
(13) Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the community went to meet them outside the camp.
(14) But Moses was furious with all the generals and captains who had returned from the battle.
(15) “Why have you let all the women live?” he demanded.
(16) “These are the very ones who followed Balaam’s advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the Lord at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the Lord’s people.
(17) So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man.
( 18 ) Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
The rest of Chapter 31 is concerned with distributing the Midianite plunder. Thirty-two thousand (32,000) virgin girls were counted in the booty (Verse 35). Thirty-two of these were given to “the Lord.” That is, 32 of these little girls were set aside for the Levities (heave offerings), to be used as concubines (Verses 40 and 41).
Yes, Numbers 31 says what it says. The Talmud sages used Numbers 31 to justify having sex with children. And since the Talmud sages, along with Christians, regard the Old Testament as “the word of God,” why beat up on the Talmud sages? Why not beat up on Jehovah and Moses, who set the standards?
For further discussion of Jewish teachings on sex with children, see the Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Yebamoth 60b, Soncino 1961 Edition, page 402. Discussion and links at
It’s true. Moses was a war criminal. The Jewish Bible tells you so. Should we be surprised at how women and children were treated in Gaza?
(1) New Evidence of Gaza Child Deaths, BBC, 22 January, 2009
For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Matthew 5:18
"Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, in whom you have put your hope. 46 If you had believed Moses, you would believe Me, because he wrote about Me. 47But since you do not believe what he wrote, how will you believe what I say?”…
John 5:45 47




Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense, since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time. From the Hadith, we know that this verse was narrated at a time that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding merchant caravans for loot.

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

It is not that we honor the created rather then the creator..we see the creator in the created. It is not that we worship the sun or the moon..but that those things represent or are the symbols of what we worship. But then we have different definition of worship. The sky, trees, mountains.. the grain that feeds us the animals..they are all a part of the Creator. Just like you have the DNA of your is the DNA of the great Creatrix in all that is creation.

You are seeing the ancients in the what you believe today.. You have what the ancient beliefs have become after the new religion won. ..partially. . If something bad happened it had to be a demon.. if man did something evil and got caught it was because of the devil. No..its you. No devil, ..there is the joker..But then the joker leads you to where you can learn. Hopefully.

As a modern day neo Pagan we do not believe in any devil. We are responsible for what we do..and have no one to blame but ourselves...
The truth gets confused the further away that it your angels nothing more then the Messengers of the Gods...? Is who we call The Greenman who is now called Jesus?

Good article! There is one aspect that I would like to elaborate a little bit further on:
"we" celebrate Christmas on december 25th, because the Romans ordained so.
But the winter solstice actually lasts from december 21st to january 6th!
That is because, from december 21st on, the sun sets later; but it is not until january 6th that he also rises earlier.
Our "pagan" ancestors already knew that long ago; and that is why there are still places where people uphold all kinds of "Epiphany" traditions.
But -just like Christmas and Easter- those traditions were so deeply rooted, that the catholic church "christened" them, when those traditions turned out to be impossible to eradicate.

There's probably a relation with the 'Twelfth Night' there (in German it's called: Zwölf Weihnachtstage and there they count from the 25th to the 6th of January).

Jesus was not born in September as one poster stated, or in April as Jehovah's Witnesses claim. Jesus was born in December. The Biblical record states that Zacharias was a priest whose role it was to light the candles on high holy days. The high holy days fall between late September and early October on the Western calendar, 7 out of 10 times in late September. At that time his wife, Elizabeth became pregnant. Six months later, in March, the virgin Mary visited her cousin Elizabeth who was already 6 months pregnant, and told her she was visited by the Archangel Gabriel who told her that she was impregnated by the Holy Spirit. Nine months later, in late December, Jesus was born. So, though the Bible does not tell us the exact date of the birth of Christ, we can easily deduce this date as late December, which makes December 25 a highly probable date for the birth of Jesus Christ. If the exact date of December 25 had ben chosen by the Christian Church because that was a pagan holiday in order to convert pagans to Christianity, it does not matter at all. The proximity of December 25 to the late December birth of Jesus makes it a moot point.

Interesting observation. I wonder how the globalists explain the sunsets immediately happening later while the sunrises delay appearing earlier. When the sun rises it clearly seems to come almost straight at you, rather than rising high in the sky as it would if it were 93 million miles distant. It should rise to a peak and then descend again in my opinion.

You say:"Well…to the rest of you, I would like to inform you that many years before the birth of Jesus a legend identical to his was the accepted life story of the Persian Son of God, Mithras." But where is the evidence that the story of Mithras was simmilar to Jesus? Can you give some reference on a serious scientific work on this topic?

Zeitgeist on Netflix is a good starting point

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Zeitgeist is entertaining but it was debunked several years ago in terms of its relation to serious Christian history. In that sense, it’s junk.

Fide et Literis

why is it junk when its Christians that do the research and call it junk?

Jesus is NOT a myth. Satan knew in the beginning in order to fool mankind he had to imitate (wolf in sheep's clothing). Yes there are several duplicities recorded in history referring to alleged others. But those pagan deities were not of love or freedom...only Jesus spoke of forgiveness and love your enemies and to turn the other cheek. Or turning the tables at the temple....those future bankers we arfe enslaved to now. Those Jesus said were of their father the devil. Fact is the Canaanites and Pharaohs and Sadducees joined the Roman Empire, aka Black Nobility.... The thirteenth tribe or luciferian tribe. Also known as royal blood, Illuminati, Bilderbergs, etc. All the puzzle pieces fit perfectly if you are awake and understand the history of mankind, DNA, hidden artifacts, the giants, have felt the Holy Spirit.... Realize the war of good against evil. Plus the tricks satan has put in man's hearts to trick him...afterall there is free will involved. Factually archeologists are destroyed if certain data is exploited against what the luciferian NWO secret cabal wants you to know. The RCC played a huge part in tricking man by changing the calendar; not to forget the Knights Templars and the birage of secret societies all in cahoots against God and truth. The similarities to Jesus were those pagans and fallen angels practicing blood sacrifice and every filthy demonic offensive action opposite of Jesus.... He is very is the devil.

All you need do is read James 1:12-15 and you will see that there is no Satan, just the evil heart of man.

read james,the bible is just a book written by man,fact is it gets many of its stories just like this 1 here about jesus,noah and the flood has been around 1000s of years before noah,bible is a book written by men.from stories that inspired it.



is arguably the most vile character in all fiction; Jealous & Proud; Petty, Unjust, Unforgiving Control Freak; a Vindictive, Bloodthirsty Ethnic Cleanser; a Misogynistic, Homophobic, Filicidal, Pestilential, Megalomaniacal, Sadomasochistic, Capriciously Malevolent Bully.”



Weww, wise old lady got the whole enchilada of conspiracies  into that post.

Interesting article but citations for sources would be appropriate, otherwise it is an opinion piece.

I agree. Not sources mentioned - as in primary sources, not other books.

I have to say this was a very well written article.. I even continued on to read some of your other articles, and you consistently appear to be very well versed in Myth, Legend, and so on. You keep the read as simple as possible, something which is not always an easy task. Very well done.

That being said, I also read thru many of the comments. Many Christians came across poorly, well intending, but their comments, naturally fall on eyes that have been blinded, and ears unable to hear. The thing everyone, rather every Christian, forgets is pretty basic. God, Christ, and the Spirit, has never in the past, Is not here in the present, nor ever will be in the future. Proven to exist, by logic, knowledge, or Science. Point of fact, Never Dis-Proven either. The Green Man, may indeed pre date Christ. BUT. The Green Man has absolutely zero written concerning him, or how he was to arrive,. Nothing, what so ever, giving his exact ancestral lines, nothing that yields warnings of false Messiahs that would come and attempt to deceive. Not so much as a single image, or sentence, telling about him prior to his arrival exists. Christ, however, is spoken of in the texts of one of the 3rd oldest writings known to man. He is mentioned as early as Genesis, and as late as Revelation. Described by Kings, at least 3 kings come to mind. Of course even this statement has to assume some level of belief, not in God, or at least the person who said that maybe the Christian fanatics would finally snap out of it, he will not be believing in God. However, I unlike him, am ok with that. I am not threatened in the most minut way, of other gods, of vastly educated men, of Alpha males who think, that with enough insults and force, people will follow them. Any time, any place, anyone who would like to fund my travel and stay, and set their god in a contest against my God, the one True Living God, Who was.. Who is.. and Who always will be.. I'm your huckle berry. Don't come to me with words. Make sure you are in tune with your god, make certain that you are just as able to admit defeat, as you are winning. I know I am, and I know with 100% confidence, I have done as told. I have tested God and found Him to be Truth. So I'm ok with any other faith on the planet, I can sit down and calmly, with a pure desire to understand, discuss their belief system, as long as they proffer up that same level of respect. See my God, He never said there are no other gods.. HE said Have no other gods BEFORE ME. If men chose to place some other diety before God, I am fine with that. The part where I am no longer fine, is when those claiming to have the REAL TRUTH about the Myth Of Jesus, and the reality of this god or that one, blatanly leave out facts. The Fact is, 900 years before anyone ever heard of the green man, Christ was foretold. Not just baby.. virgin.. yada yada.. We knew 900 years before Jesus came to this earth, who great, great, great grand dad would be (there would be more greats, but just no not even gonna try to think it thru). The trial of Christ is recorded, and SUPPORTED by the Romans who put him to death, and the written records of the time. His Resurection.. (or giving you this one since you lack understanding in the matter. His missing body) is recorded by a group of the Roman government, who had nothing to gain, and all to lose by acknowledging any of this took place. Of, course the fella thinking that somehow I am bewitched or brainwashed or any number of things wrong with my mind, he would say at this point, The Bible you cling to, is pure fiction. written by 5-6 men to control and entertain. Um.. feel free to prove that.. because if that be the case. Those 5-6 men were truly the most amazing men to ever live. They were able to look 3000 years into their future, and make up exact happenings. THAT TURNED OUT TO HAPPEN.. whew. seriously this is where non Christians hope to make their stand.. please. Would you like to know the next 2 HUGE events that are in the WORD. Right now. months, maybe even years before they take place? Not a problem. I will tell you what my God has impressed upon me, and you can call me crazy. Just remember, when they happen, to mention under your breath. Maybe he wasn't crazy. Christ can not have stolen His story and existence from Green Man. Nor can Christ be that new Messiah, that you have said the world needs to re-roll every 2100 years.Why? because science says that Christ, predates the whole lot of them.. Wait, I am not omitting the oldest known written word, or that there was a religion tied to it. However, in the Word of God. the god known as Baal had followers that came before everyone, and insulted the God of Elijah.. Wait now.. you believe in recorded fact yes? and one of the gods involved with the oldest writings known, is named Baal.. This is now what? 1800 BC? when Baal came up before God to prove his greatness.. THEY WAITED FOR DAYS. and nothing happened. Elijah called upon the name of the Lord.. and not only was his offerings comsumed by fire,..,but those offerings intended for Baal. Green Man? He didnt have a dog in the fight. because he had not been heard of yet. Frankly I can go on with things obvious, even to little children for hours on end. I'm nothing special, not well educated as my poor spelling and grammer give away. But I also understand that any seed I throw out will fall on dry ground and be whisked away. God gave you the freedom to chose. Not once did He demand you chose Him. Christ said, if you deny me before men, then I willdeny you before the Father in Heaven.. He also said come unto me like little children, He also said, I am the way the truth and the life, no man can come to the Father, but by me. Finally he said I have set before you two pathways.. one is life.. the other is death.. I wish for you to chose life. No other faith has had even half the number of attempts at discrediting them as Christianity. I understand where you are coming from guys. frankly we can trade sides and I can debate your side as well as you can. You know whats really awesome?? If I am wrong, and you are correct. with all of this being just chance and chaos, nothing to come after.. I am out absolutely nothing. IF I am correct.. then I am truly sorry. Side note. I wasnt always a Christian. The Green Man gained the vast majority of his fame NOT pre Christ.. but Post Christ with the Celtic mages. How do I know? Because I tested that out also. You will never hear me say that Celtic Runic magery is not real. What is it? The devil, just like every other religion has been. Now that my friend is merely my opinion.
Excellent writing I loved reading several of your articles.. Good Day friend.,.

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Gee, a paragraph now and again would be nice. You know, aiding your poor reader and all.

Fide et Literis

@Alan C.


The problem I have with Christians arguing for their version of truth is that they only have one source – their bible. But unfortunately, in order to debate the validity of the bible, you CANNOT quote the bible – you HAVE to use outside contemporary source material. And there is NONE. You cannot use the bible to argue for its veracity. So pointing to its contents does nothing to convince others who have read a lot of valid material outside of its covers. And the idle threats provided by christians and their precious ‘book’ also do nothing except cause more comtempt for them and their belief. SImply stating it’s the “Word of God” is a childish comment and much like claiming the Easter Bunny is real because I BELIEVE IT! 

Is it really the Word of God?  Let’s see…… if you can read something logical you may be surprised. But you have to take off your blinders. Promise?

So go on with your belief but don’t expect others to share your jaded world view. Besides, the Green Man’s coming soon and when he gets here all you Christians are gonna be really unhappy. Touche’


Alan C.
Now you go and tell Netanyahu and the 6, 000,000 Jews in Israel that they cannot use their Jewish Bible to claim Palestine as theirs.

SImply stating it’s the “Word of YHWH” is a childish comment and much like claiming the Easter Bunny is real because I BELIEVE IT!

In all fairness to the  ‘6 million’ (there’s that magical number again) jews in the land formerly known as Palestine.The majority of them are transplants from north/northeastern Europe. They are Ashkenazi/Khazar jews with no historical or genetic linkage to the original middle eastern Hebrews. Their ancestors converted in the 7th and 8th century. It is only a ‘belief’ that connects them. Incidently Netanyahu’s real name is Miliekovsky. He’s of Lithuanian descent (slavic) not semitic.  Prior to 1947 there was no “israel” it was known as Judea or Palestine. In fact, historically there never was a ‘place’ called Israel. Only and ever a tribe. Kind of like the Native Americans stealing a state and calling it Cheerokee or Hopi and claiming the Great Spirit in their ancient legends told them it is theirs..

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Actually there was a historical Kingdom of Israel, the Northern Kingdom, which either split from a united kingdom (2 Chronicles 15) or developed separately as some scholars now think. It existed from roughly 930 BCE until 720 BCE, when it was conquered by the Neo-Assyrian Empire and most of its population relocated and assimilated. The so-called “ten lost tribes” came from that Israel.

Ironically, modern day “Israel” is situated where the other nation, the Kingdom of Judah, was located.  Judah was mostly exterminated in 70 CE by the Romans but a few Jews apparently survived including those who were living abroad. But yes, the “Jews” occupying Palestine today are descendants of Caucasian Khazarian converts and have no historical ties to the Levant. Simply, they are warmongering counterfeits. 

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I would have to agree with Osirus concerning the issue of Palestine. It has been a political machination which has hurt far too many people. Palestinians are Hebrews and Arabs are a Semitic people.The Khazars were converts and are no relation to the original Jews of the Bible.As for the Zionists agenda, it speaks for itself, and the reality is not connected to any spiritual link to the Bible.I am sorry if this offends those that want to believe the false history that has been accepted as truth.Hopefully, through sites like this, we can discuss issues of great concern and importance based on facts, not propaganda. I met a man just tonight at the health club and we started a conversation.I am the inquisitive type and I am like a sponge looking to soak up the water of Truth. He said he was a Hebrew, and he is Palestinian. I, of course, wanted to hear as much of his thoughts as he was willing to share.He just confirmed that my research was correct, and he was quite peaceful in his outlook considering the reality of the situation. We must be able to seek the truth, and be willing to discuss this issue since much is at stake.why waste human, financial and other resources on wars not based on the facts. We need to be wise and to stop letting those who have ulterior motives to create needless conflict. I have attempted to be as polite as possible while sharing not only what I have learned, but what those who have been there are willing to say. The one piece of information I have no citation for is the name Osirus mentioned for Netanyahu. If you read this please share the source to assist me in my research. I really like to have my citations mentally available for my discussions and debates.

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Why can't we read stories about the Green Man? Cause writing wasn't really happening back in that early time. And about Genesis predicting Jesus, did you ever see Star Wars? Notice how the sequel knew exactly what happened in the first movie? The New Testament is the sequel to the Old Testament. So of course the writers of that Testament knew exactly how to paint Jesus to look like the fulfillment of the prophecy of the OT. DUH! And in fact, the Church knew what was expected so well, they made any of the gospels (like Nag Hammedi) that didn't fit the scheme apocryphal or ditched them all together. There were many gospels written about Jesus, and they don't all agree. And both the OT and NT have contradictory parts. I like the idea of Jesus I like the words that were attributed to him in the NT. Thomas Jefferson like Jesus' words too, tho Jefferson didn't believe in that kind of god. He did appreciate the morality attributed to Jesus, so he made his own bible by stripping out everything but just the words attributed to Jesus. Unfortunately humans keep waiting for Jesus to save them, when the point of life is to learn how to save ourselves.


Geez, you rave on a bit. It's interesting that Christians read these articles when it seems to upset them so much. The Romans were not benevolent occupiers of Judea at the time of Jesus they were as vicious and brutal as they were in the all the other lands they occupied. Crucifixion and torture were daily events. The Romans occupied Judea from BC63. The 4-year annihilation of the people of Judea 66-70AD and destruction of their temple by Roman occupiers seems to be conveniently forgotten by the Christian church. How can anyone realistically believe a religion conceived by the Romans? The Romans stole the old testament and shuffled through the 50 or so gospels deciding which would suit their purpose for the new testament. The Gospels of Thomas, Phillip, Judas, and Mary clearly didn't make the cut, but they are real and have an alternative view. Mithra was a Roman god prior supplanting the same story onto Jesus. The Green Man analogy is entirely appropriate.

Gee! I think you may have gotten ahead of the point! It is nice to inform us about Alpha males and then combine words from the movie Wyatt Earp. I am certain your not my huckleberry. I enjoy and appreciate hearing opinions, and we all have one. I just do not see a cogent point, but a rather a mixture of alpha chest thumping along with a Val Kilmer rendition from a movie. As far as I can tell, many things said were not meant to be taken literally. Perhaps, Jesus meant no way unto the father but through me, as in, my Way! Could it be he meant by his teachings and example.?Could his movement be called The Way? I believe Christ means anointed one, and I am not convinced we have enough information to be certain. If he was the anointed one, I never read where he called his teaching Christianity. Perhaps, the words were changed to let humans off the hook for personal responsibility.To empower certain individuals over others.I think it is clear you have to walk the teachings, and not just utter the words. I believe we can make it mean what we wish it to mean. Yet, by our situation in today's world, it is abundantly clear most do not walk The Way! I would say Green man and other so-called pagan beliefs were a natural way of seeing an order in the world that most have become disconnected from. The whole is one! It means the entire cosmos and all that it entails. I just do not think that any omnipotent source would have petty human biases and emotions.Why require such a rigid belief system.I have more questions than answers since I see no objective facts to support a concise opinion.

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... Brian Immekus ... Very well said. Best comment I've read on here.Thank you.

Brian Immekus: well said. Nothing to add, you said it all.
Although the Christian gospel appears to copy the others, all the trinities that existed before the Christ [Messiah figure] point towards his arrival. Mythology is not about fairy stories; the work of both Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein have passed into the realm of mythology because the information now available has already superceded their understanding. The creation stories are over three thousand years old, and our understanding has moved beyond them; but even our understanding will eventually become mythology as science discovers more about the life and the Universe.

The point the author is trying to make is quite a stretch. Nice theory, but similarities are not always cause and effect.

Interesting article but most of this has been known and commented on for some time. I am, however, intrigued as to where the information regarding Neolithic worship comes from - surely this is just pure speculation?

She is "Iassas" aka Jesas/Jesus, the wife of the ancient creator god "Atum.".

All of this has been thoroughly debunked. There are so many ways to criticize and disprove Christianity, there's no need to make things up. I can't believe people are still repeating this nonsense. Just google zeitgeist debunked.

Unfortunately history existed. Speculation about unfilled or photographed past events is ended. There is now less opportunity, thank Heavens, for people to write guff such as we read here in all its insanity and hilarity.
God exists, It just does. How on earth do you think all this got here? How do you loonies achieve some form of consciousness?
First everything you see is created by Almighty God, as we know it. You get a vision? That's IT again, you see a Yeti? That's IT again, you dream something you have no experience of? That's IT again.

Jesus, or Issa exists- there is always down here any number of guides to Almighty God, but they are externally like you and me, and can themselves not create anything, though stuff goes on if you are a practising believer on the path to Enlightenment. Enlightenment is carried out directly by God, and is recommended to all loonies, and everyone else, as a means of finally escaping the misery of reading twaddle online!!

“….God exists, It just does. How on earth do you think all this got here? How do you loonies achieve some form of consciousness?…..”

Well that proves it! I should have asked you these questions years ago. 

The Bible:  begins with a talking snake, ends with a four-headed monster; NON FICTION?

And WE are the ‘loonies’?

Adam and Eve were promised a Messiah who would deliver them from the Fall. When they disobeyed their Creator by eating of the tree of Good and Evil.

Lucifer who tempted Eve went on to created a Myth of the Messiah. This myth was created by Semiramis of Babel about her and her husband Nimrod. When the people were scattered from this world government at Babel they carried this false legend that Semiramis was a goddess who had a reincarnated son of Nimrod known as Horus in Egypt symbolized as the sun god 666. This story was to counterfeit the true story of the real Messiah Jesus. Satan counterfeits everything the Creator did to fool ignorant humans.

Today their descendants are the Nephilim commonly called the Illuminati or Learned Elders of Zion who plan to create a world government, a reincarnation the Phoenix dragon/bird of Babel, which was a reincarnation of Atlantis the Pre-Flood civilization destroyed by God in the Flood of Noah in 2347 BC. Today it is called the New World Order. The reincarnated religion of Babel is called New Age Religion of the False Prophet also known as Catholicism.

Don't be fooled by this Satanic counterfeit. Be prepared for the Rapture by reading the Authorized King James Bible, mainly the Henry Morris Study Bible. See my books The Mystery of History Revealed.

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“Mysteries of History Revealed: Dinosaurs to Extraterrestrials”, “Mysteries of History Revealed Part 1: Fossils, Meteorite Impacts, and Nephilim History”, and “Mysteries of History Revealed Part 2: History of the Nephilim and the Rebuilding of Babel”. Oy, oy. Mysteries, not Mystery.

I am Lucifer, the Dragon, that old Serpent,
the Devil, and Satan, the Son of perdition,

Shaytan Iblis of Jinn

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The Old Testament talks about both the crucifixion and the resurrection, so it isn't correct to say Christianity came from Mithras.
As a university professor of Archaeology told me once re claims the Gilgamesh flood was the origin of the Noah's flood story - just because evidence is found of an earlier source, does not make that the earliest source or its source. It's just proves it's the earliest remaining version of events that is known. The earliest copy eg a Plato work is 1400 years after it was supposedly written. Nobody questions its origin or date, yet in matters religion the same rules seem not to apply.

eg Book of Job (resurrection of believers and Second Coming of Christ the redeemer on the last day):
"As for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, And at the last He will take His stand on the earth. Even after my skin is destroyed, Yet from my flesh I shall see God; Whom I myself shall behold, And whom my eyes will see and not another."

Isaiah 53 (crucifixion, saviour dying for our sins, resurrection):
"Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.
After he has suffered,
he will see the light of life[d] and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities."

The Book of Enoch, also talks extensively about the Son of Man, who will judge the World.

Absolutely agreed, there are various information sources on the flood in historical literature. Just because something is an older account doesn't mean that its the correct or even factual account.. After looking up the various things written about in this article, literally.. It shares nothing past A strange birth (Of a stone in Mithra's case), and.. If you want to draw conclusions Christ's crucifixion and Mithra killing a bull. Then he ate with the divine..So...Yeah definitely connected right there.. Green man? There is literally nothing at all to explain it outside of people's thoughts there is no story or any kind of text found to this day.


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