An interesting and enjoyable read, if a tad fanciful. But what mythology is not fanciful? Of course we know how the Egyptian pyramids were built, and even have a strong handle on why. As a matter of fact, there are still failed attempts at constructing pyramids from earlier in Egypt's history than the ambitious multigenerational Giza projects. And the pyramids in Central and South America are constructed very differently (which this myth slyly explains, I noticed) but less well preserved due to slight differences in climate between deserts and tropical rainforests... (Otherwise we no doubt would have found earlier failed attempts there as well.)
The pyramids are fascinating, but a lot of their mystery originates in unconcious racism, the earnest assumption that mere primitives from continents other than Eastern Europe could not possibly have the intelligence or resources for large construction projects. A little archaeology and a little history go a long way to taking the romance out of ancient alien visitors and similar silliness.
But myths were meant to entertain as much as educate, and they should still be enjoyed. I know that the sky is not a dome formed from the skull of Ymir, but that does not stop me from thrilling to the adventures of Just Tyr and Noble Thor and Sly Odinn and Mischievous Loki and Risque Freyja - and knowing how the pyramids were constructed should not stop anyone from enjoying this retelling of the Hopi creation myth. Lighten up a little!
Kudos, Mr Mills!
It's a retelling of an intriguing myth, not an actual discussion of history. Sheesh! I got it, and enjoyed it immensely.
Any myth grows in the retelling, why should this one be any different? Having Jesus born in december is a retelling that directly contradicts the Bible, but most people get on with their lives instead of arguing historical accuracy...
I believe that Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon had a sister who was mentally ill and was locked up all of her life, as the family didn't want it publicly known. Maybe this is just a family trait and seems to have happened on more than one occasion then?
they definitely look negro/black in features..bible says they hate their children or even unborn (abortion Eze 16..its abortion not miscarriage as it says.. hated and despised when conceived and thrown out not washed or cut cord properly (clearly cord is cut ..as baby is thrown out) so its an abortion.. parents don't know exist anymore therefore and he then "owns" her ... and says she is too sexual.. "your father was an Amorite your mother a Hittite..they threw you out.." he keeps an abortion alive.. and talks astrally to her.. in a book....." I will not show my love to your children conceived in disgrace I will slay them with famine and drought" (conceived out of wedlock or also in lust ) etc.....or as a "dead" girl eze 16....giving thought and sexual behavior ideas to the living etc...bible mentions paying for dna as vineyard for sale.. and black a white skin mentioned..in the sale.... (song of Solomon...I am black he is white ruddy splendorous.. pay Solomon 200 shekels.. let him touch me.. my soul loves other....lam 2-3..the light color/splendor cast down"worth weight in gold"(dna trafficking) they all turn black again...
Fascinating, and not impossible. Marco Polo was DEFINITELY NOT the first European in China. Way before him, during Tang Dynasty, there were already Romans and the likes to travel into China as merchants and whatnot. Catholicism was already in China very early on.
By the way, just wanted to point out that it's "Dr Li", not "Dr Xiuzhen", Chinese people puts family name first. :)
Chukchi people are Eskimos. They are not related to Kenewick man. Chatters said that Kennewick man , Naia and Luzia were related to Pacific Islanders, Africans and Australoids, these people are called Negroes .
Morten Rasmussen, et al “The ancestry and affiliations of Kennewick Man” Nature ,523 :455–458 (23 July 2015) http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v523/n7561/full/nature14625.html , is recognized as a PaleoAmerican therefore he has negro ancestry. The researchers claim the Kennewick man’s DNA is mainly related to Native Americans living in South America, rather than North America except for the Colville people on the West Coast. The researchers wrote “Despite this similarity, Anzick-1 and Kennewick Man have dissimilar genetic affinities to contemporary Native Americans. In particular, we find that Anzick-1 is more closely related to Central/Southern Native Americans than is Kennewick Man (Extended Data Fig. 5). The pattern observed in Kennewick Man is mirrored in the Colville, who also show a high affinity with Southern populations (Fig. 2c), but are most closely related to a neighbouring population in the data set (Stswecem’c; Extended Data Fig. 4c).” The authors also added that: “However, the genetic affinities of Kennewick Man reveal additional complexity in the population history of the Northern lineage. The finding that Kennewick is more closely related to Southern than many Northern Native Americans (Extended Data Fig. 4) suggests the presence of an additional Northern lineage that diverged from the common ancestral population of Anzick-1 and Southern Native Americans (Fig. 3). This branch would include both Colville and other tribes of the Pacific Northwest such as the Stswecem’c, who also appear symmetric to Kennewick with Southern Native Americans (Extended Data Fig. 4).”
The Pacific coast were a mixture of mongoloid and Pacific Island negro Native Americans. There is no such thing as a single population making up a Colville tribe. The so-called Colville tribe which is related to Kennewick man is a Confederation of Indians who did not die of diseases or murdered by whites so they could take their land.
The Colville tribe is the name given to various Christian Native American tribes that lived at Fort Colville. They include Native American groups that were not exterminated by the whites. The twelve bands are the Methow, Okanogan, Arrow Lakes, Sanpoil, Colville, Nespelem, Chelan, Entiat, Moses-Columbia, Wenatchi, Nez Perce, and Palus.
This means that the Colville tribe is admixed with the Black Native American tribes that formerly dominated the Pacific coast.
The multivariate analysis of Kennewick man’s skull show that he was a PaleoAmericans. The carniometric measurements confirm the negro origin of Kenewick man. The researchers wrote: Although our individual-based craniometric analyses confirm that Kennewick Man tends to be more similar to Polynesian and Ainu peoples than to Native Americans, Kennewick Man’s pattern of craniometric affinity falls well within the range of affinity patterns evaluated for individual Native Americans (Supplementary Information 9). For example, the Arikara from North Dakota (the Native American tribe representing the geographically closest population in Howells’ data set to Kennewick), exhibit with high frequency closest affinities with Polynesians (Supplementary Information 9). See this picture of an Arikara , before most of this tribe was exterminated, https://www.nps.gov/knri/learn/historyculture/images/1985_66_125_1b.jpg
In summary, Kennewick man is more related to the South American tribes that are related to the Melanesians, than North American Native Americans. As you can see from the pictures of the Ohlone tribe above, they resemble Melanesians rather than the Mongoloid Native Americans who probably originated in Siberia.
I look at the recreation of this skeleton and it does not look like a very good reincarnation of what he may have looked like. the skeleton shows a prominent set of perfect teeth and wide set eyes, and the illustrated image shows eyes closer together. And the skull is wider by far at the top, yet the model narrows. There is no bone or cartilage to indicate an elongated nose ...is that just the imagination of the person who did the model? And if this is an illustration of a very ancient European image...why would there be such curly hair when this is not a usual characteristic of the ancient Euros who are found with straight fine hair? Normally I find such visions created from skeletal remains quite intuitive. This one to me seems off.
The genome of Kennewick man shows an affinity to the Chukchi and Native Americans. craniometric analysis can only show generalized physical similarities between groups. It does not indicate a genetic relationship as Genomic analysis does. ALL Native Americans can trace their ancestry back to a hand full of pioneers (possibly as few as 20!) who settled in the Americas about 20,000 - 25,000 BP (Kennewick Man dates to 8.9-9 thousand years). There are no other genotypes present in Native Americans at all. This includes Kennewick man. This doesn't mean there were not earlier visitors or even residents. There may well have been but, they left no genetic trace in modern or Paleoindians.
the last ice age ended perhaps 11000 years ago. in short, it is very possible flooding occurred world wide in one way of another. maybe people did have to build boats and migrate in a form or another.
I really enjoy reading any alternatives regarding ancient history but this article stumped me in the first sentence. i cannot carry on reading because I just don’t understand that which Willem writes. How does he know that the four faces of the pyramid represented the four elements? How did Willen arrive at this? In fact almost every statement he makes i have to ask, how did he arrive at that. Further on in the article: “The positioning, color and size of the three pyramids correspond to mutual positioning, color and relative size of these three planets at a certain moment in time.” Excuse me am I being thick? What ever does Willem mean here and how does he arrive at such a conclusion? I want to read and understand but I just cannot as I have a question after almost every sentence. please don’t answer me by saying “Read Willem’s book” as this will irritate me.
I don't know where you get your information about Native American skills that would impress you to write, "It certainly was not the pre-Colombian native americans because they did not develop metallurgy."
I am Tsalagi (Cherokee), and the Tsalagihi DID develop metallurgy in regard to copper. Ancient Tsalagi burials and archaeological sites contain copper jewelry that was made from copper that was refined by our people. The graves and the ornaments predate Columbus by a few hundred years--around 800-900 AD, which would have been roughly 592-692 years before Columbus "discovered' the Caribbean islands and, with his brothers' help, murdered one island tribe to extinction and killed approximately 125,000 indigenous people (half the population) on the island that is now Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
Gold is a metal, too. The indigenous people whom Columbus first encountered and later murdered to extinction wore gold earrings and other gold jewelry. They mined the gold, refined it, and crafted it into jewelry. Likewise with the Maya and the Aztecs. Their knowledge of metallurgy in general was limited, but it did exist, along with effective ways of crafting gold and copper into jewelry and other items.
You really should read up on Native American history and cultures--or you could just ask some Native Americans. We are still pretty good at keeping historical accounts of our ancestors and our culture. The Eastern Band of Cherokees at the Qualla Boundary in NC have the Museum of the Cherokee Indian that could enlighten you. You can contact them through the website at http://www.cherokeemuseum.org/
Also, these tales of white-skinned (as opposed to light skinned), 10-feet-tall giants are fictional stories. They are so widespread, because long before Columbus was born, the Indigenous Nations of North America had established trade routes that connected Indigenous villages across the continent, and it wasn't just trade goods, salt, pipestone, chert, food crops, and crafts that were traded. Indigenous traders also shared and collected stories from other tribal cultures and passed them on as they traveled among the villages, then they told them to their own people when they returned home. Through a series of trades and traders, within a few months a story from the Atlantic coast could--and often did--make its way to the Pacific coast.
What non-Indigenous people obviously have a hard time grasping is that our oral tradition has three basic categories; 1) The History of Our People; 2) Religious and Creation Myths; and 3) Stories--Fables for Moral Instruction (similar to Aesop's Fables) and Entertainment.
A good story was a valuable commodity among the ancient Indigenous Nations, and they were shared widely. Some of the Uncle Remus stories about animals were taken directly from Tsalagi (Cherokee), Creek, Chickasaw, and Choctaw fables that have been around for hundreds of years, maybe longer. Keep in mind that there was no written language to speak of, no radio, no TV, no worldwide web, no computers, and no libraries. Stories were a favorite form of entertainment. Most villages had storytellers; and the traders wore two proverbial headdresses, that of a trader of goods, and that of storyteller/gatherer.
It should be noted that whenever a village or tribal nation would hear a new story from another tribal nation, they would change the story slightly by embellishing the story with little cultural tidbits or local landmarks, or added details to adapt the story to their culture and "own" the story in a sense. It also made the story seem more "real" to the listener.
For effect, some storytellers would begin or end a particularly exciting or fanciful story with a suggestion that the story was told to him as being a true story, even though all but the small children knew that it was not. The effect was that it sparked the imaginations of the listeners. There were fictional stories of animals; people; magic and magicians; sgili (withches) and black magic, such as the Ravenmocker; fantastic fictional creatures, such as the giant serpent Uktena; and strange races of humans, such as the white skinned, 10 feet tall cannibals that suddenly vanished without a trace.
The tales of the 10 feet tall white skinned giants were from the "Story" category, created for entertainment.
As for the bones in the cave in Nevada, wild animals such as wolves, coyotes, and rodents would account for "a few" of the bones being broken and the marrow removed. It was not unheard of to use a cave as a burial site. There are caves in the Southeast that are burial sites. In those caves are human bones, and some of those bones were broken and the marrow eaten. When a bone is broken and rodents eat the marrow, the result looks like the marrow has been scraped out of the bone with some sort of tool, when the only tool actually used were the rodent's teeth.
Anthropologists and archaeologists are very good at creating entirely speculative stories to go along with their findings of something they really don't understand. I have been on archaeological sites to protect graves from archaeologists, and I've seen and heard some of the ridiculous speculations that they fabricate; things that I knew to be completely off-base. The bones in the Nevada cave is among them. I don't know if the anthropologists were that uninformed, or if they just saw what they wanted to see.
Kobe Bryant, for example was 6'6" at 11 years old. Andre the Giant was 7'4" at 12 years old. Look at basketball rosters and see how many people are above 7' tall. The tallest recorded human was 8'11" tall. That's almost 9 feet. And imagine that these modern records only go back to recorded history meaning these people had to be around modern civilization to be measured. Humans have been existing for 40 thousand years, give or take. There have been many giants throughout history.
I am delighted to know that there ARE other learned people in this world. I too, believe that Earth has been previously visited by intelligent extra-terrestrials and that they were VERY ADVANCED and definitely left their mark in ancient Iraq, and the whole of the Middle East countries. We need to see more information posted about those ancients and for those who "NAY-SAY", please do learn to read the ancient languages - cuneiform would be a great start. Tens of thousands of tablets relating the history of the ancients are engraved on these tablets and make for amazing learning and insight of previous times. With respect for all other students of history, Elaine. P.S. It is believed that other sites of ancient space-ports are BAAL-BECK and the SINAI PENINSULAR and also SOUTH AMERICA'S WEST COAST. And I believe more are yet to be discovered. And finally, DON'T SHOOT the messenger (me), just do your OWN IN-DEPTH RESEARCH.
Hello John and thank you for your comment. You are correct that the Hopi territory is very close to the Grand Canyon. Many Hopi clans believe that they emerged into this the 4th world at the Canyon. The Supai (Navel) village is located at the bottom of the Canyon and a great place to visit if you like to hike. I think the Egyptian cave you mentioned was discovered by a man named Kincaid who work for the Smithsonian and was exploring the canyon back in 1909. When he got to Phoenix he wrote an article for the Phoenix Gazette. The cave nor the artifacts have ever been found. If they exist, I think they would be located upstream from the junction of the little Colorado and the Colorado. Many of the ancient villages surrounding the Hopi villages, and the Hopi villages form the outline of Orion. 1st Mesa, 2nd Mesa, and 3rd Mesa form his mid-section, Walnut Canyon his head, Wupaki the star Bellatrix, Homol’ovl near Winslow the star Betelgeuse. So Orion’s spear would be pointing at the village of Supai. If all the man stars are represented on the ground by ancient villages, than the star in his shield over the canyon should be the location of the cave you mentioned. You might take a look at Gary David’s book “The Orion Zone”.
Many of the other clan believe they crossed over a large ocean on rafts always heading East and then they traveled North to their present location.
Thomas O. Mills, some posters here have cast doubt over the Hopi knowing anything about ancient Egypt. But would I be right in saying that Hopi territory borders the Grand canyon, in which it's said that Egyptian artefacts have been found in caves and structures believed to be ancient pyramids? I seem to remember reading about this somewhere, and if true would surely erase doubt of the Hopi being ignorant of things Egyptian? I really enjoyed the piece by the way, thank you.
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An interesting and enjoyable read, if a tad fanciful. But what mythology is not fanciful? Of course we know how the Egyptian pyramids were built, and even have a strong handle on why. As a matter of fact, there are still failed attempts at constructing pyramids from earlier in Egypt's history than the ambitious multigenerational Giza projects. And the pyramids in Central and South America are constructed very differently (which this myth slyly explains, I noticed) but less well preserved due to slight differences in climate between deserts and tropical rainforests... (Otherwise we no doubt would have found earlier failed attempts there as well.)
The pyramids are fascinating, but a lot of their mystery originates in unconcious racism, the earnest assumption that mere primitives from continents other than Eastern Europe could not possibly have the intelligence or resources for large construction projects. A little archaeology and a little history go a long way to taking the romance out of ancient alien visitors and similar silliness.
But myths were meant to entertain as much as educate, and they should still be enjoyed. I know that the sky is not a dome formed from the skull of Ymir, but that does not stop me from thrilling to the adventures of Just Tyr and Noble Thor and Sly Odinn and Mischievous Loki and Risque Freyja - and knowing how the pyramids were constructed should not stop anyone from enjoying this retelling of the Hopi creation myth. Lighten up a little!
Kudos, Mr Mills!
It's a retelling of an intriguing myth, not an actual discussion of history. Sheesh! I got it, and enjoyed it immensely.
Any myth grows in the retelling, why should this one be any different? Having Jesus born in december is a retelling that directly contradicts the Bible, but most people get on with their lives instead of arguing historical accuracy...
I believe that Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon had a sister who was mentally ill and was locked up all of her life, as the family didn't want it publicly known. Maybe this is just a family trait and seems to have happened on more than one occasion then?
they definitely look negro/black in features..bible says they hate their children or even unborn (abortion Eze 16..its abortion not miscarriage as it says.. hated and despised when conceived and thrown out not washed or cut cord properly (clearly cord is cut ..as baby is thrown out) so its an abortion.. parents don't know exist anymore therefore and he then "owns" her ... and says she is too sexual.. "your father was an Amorite your mother a Hittite..they threw you out.." he keeps an abortion alive.. and talks astrally to her.. in a book....." I will not show my love to your children conceived in disgrace I will slay them with famine and drought" (conceived out of wedlock or also in lust ) etc.....or as a "dead" girl eze 16....giving thought and sexual behavior ideas to the living etc...bible mentions paying for dna as vineyard for sale.. and black a white skin mentioned..in the sale.... (song of Solomon...I am black he is white ruddy splendorous.. pay Solomon 200 shekels.. let him touch me.. my soul loves other....lam 2-3..the light color/splendor cast down"worth weight in gold"(dna trafficking) they all turn black again...
Fascinating, and not impossible. Marco Polo was DEFINITELY NOT the first European in China. Way before him, during Tang Dynasty, there were already Romans and the likes to travel into China as merchants and whatnot. Catholicism was already in China very early on.
By the way, just wanted to point out that it's "Dr Li", not "Dr Xiuzhen", Chinese people puts family name first. :)
Chukchi people are Eskimos. They are not related to Kenewick man. Chatters said that Kennewick man , Naia and Luzia were related to Pacific Islanders, Africans and Australoids, these people are called Negroes .
Morten Rasmussen, et al “The ancestry and affiliations of Kennewick Man” Nature ,523 :455–458 (23 July 2015) http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v523/n7561/full/nature14625.html , is recognized as a PaleoAmerican therefore he has negro ancestry. The researchers claim the Kennewick man’s DNA is mainly related to Native Americans living in South America, rather than North America except for the Colville people on the West Coast. The researchers wrote “Despite this similarity, Anzick-1 and Kennewick Man have dissimilar genetic affinities to contemporary Native Americans. In particular, we find that Anzick-1 is more closely related to Central/Southern Native Americans than is Kennewick Man (Extended Data Fig. 5). The pattern observed in Kennewick Man is mirrored in the Colville, who also show a high affinity with Southern populations (Fig. 2c), but are most closely related to a neighbouring population in the data set (Stswecem’c; Extended Data Fig. 4c).”
The authors also added that: “However, the genetic affinities of Kennewick Man reveal additional complexity in the population history of the Northern lineage. The finding that Kennewick is more closely related to Southern than many Northern Native Americans (Extended Data Fig. 4) suggests the presence of an additional Northern lineage that diverged from the common ancestral population of Anzick-1 and Southern Native Americans (Fig. 3). This branch would include both Colville and other tribes of the Pacific Northwest such as the Stswecem’c, who also appear symmetric to Kennewick with Southern Native Americans (Extended Data Fig. 4).”
The Pacific coast were a mixture of mongoloid and Pacific Island negro Native Americans. There is no such thing as a single population making up a Colville tribe. The so-called Colville tribe which is related to Kennewick man is a Confederation of Indians who did not die of diseases or murdered by whites so they could take their land.
The Colville tribe is the name given to various Christian Native American tribes that lived at Fort Colville. They include Native American groups that were not exterminated by the whites. The twelve bands are the Methow, Okanogan, Arrow Lakes, Sanpoil, Colville, Nespelem, Chelan, Entiat, Moses-Columbia, Wenatchi, Nez Perce, and Palus.
These remnants of Pacific coast tribes formerly mixed with the Black Native Americans this is obvious when we look at Ohlone people who lived in missions on the West Coast and other Black Native Americans. See: http://www.missionscalifornia.com/sites/default/files/snjose-05-Ohlone-indians-dancing.jpg
http://www.books-about-california.com/Images/SF_100_Years_Ago/Indians_Hunting.jpg
https://www.warpaths2peacepipes.com/images/california-native-indians.jpg
http://www.foundsf.org/images/7/77/Indians-at-the-Misson-brk00000869_24a.jpg
This means that the Colville tribe is admixed with the Black Native American tribes that formerly dominated the Pacific coast.
The multivariate analysis of Kennewick man’s skull show that he was a PaleoAmericans. The carniometric measurements confirm the negro origin of Kenewick man. The researchers wrote:
Although our individual-based craniometric analyses confirm that Kennewick Man tends to be more similar to Polynesian and Ainu peoples than to Native Americans, Kennewick Man’s pattern of craniometric affinity falls well within the range of affinity patterns evaluated for individual Native Americans (Supplementary Information 9). For example, the Arikara from North Dakota (the Native American tribe representing the geographically closest population in Howells’ data set to Kennewick), exhibit with high frequency closest affinities with Polynesians (Supplementary Information 9). See this picture of an Arikara , before most of this tribe was exterminated, https://www.nps.gov/knri/learn/historyculture/images/1985_66_125_1b.jpg
In summary, Kennewick man is more related to the South American tribes that are related to the Melanesians, than North American Native Americans. As you can see from the pictures of the Ohlone tribe above, they resemble Melanesians rather than the Mongoloid Native Americans who probably originated in Siberia.
I look at the recreation of this skeleton and it does not look like a very good reincarnation of what he may have looked like. the skeleton shows a prominent set of perfect teeth and wide set eyes, and the illustrated image shows eyes closer together. And the skull is wider by far at the top, yet the model narrows. There is no bone or cartilage to indicate an elongated nose ...is that just the imagination of the person who did the model? And if this is an illustration of a very ancient European image...why would there be such curly hair when this is not a usual characteristic of the ancient Euros who are found with straight fine hair? Normally I find such visions created from skeletal remains quite intuitive. This one to me seems off.
There was an interesting article on this site “THE FORGOTTEN STONES OF ASWAN QUARRY, EGYPT”
The genome of Kennewick man shows an affinity to the Chukchi and Native Americans. craniometric analysis can only show generalized physical similarities between groups. It does not indicate a genetic relationship as Genomic analysis does. ALL Native Americans can trace their ancestry back to a hand full of pioneers (possibly as few as 20!) who settled in the Americas about 20,000 - 25,000 BP (Kennewick Man dates to 8.9-9 thousand years). There are no other genotypes present in Native Americans at all. This includes Kennewick man. This doesn't mean there were not earlier visitors or even residents. There may well have been but, they left no genetic trace in modern or Paleoindians.
i agree
the last ice age ended perhaps 11000 years ago. in short, it is very possible flooding occurred world wide in one way of another. maybe people did have to build boats and migrate in a form or another.
I really enjoy reading any alternatives regarding ancient history but this article stumped me in the first sentence. i cannot carry on reading because I just don’t understand that which Willem writes. How does he know that the four faces of the pyramid represented the four elements? How did Willen arrive at this? In fact almost every statement he makes i have to ask, how did he arrive at that. Further on in the article: “The positioning, color and size of the three pyramids correspond to mutual positioning, color and relative size of these three planets at a certain moment in time.” Excuse me am I being thick? What ever does Willem mean here and how does he arrive at such a conclusion? I want to read and understand but I just cannot as I have a question after almost every sentence. please don’t answer me by saying “Read Willem’s book” as this will irritate me.
I don't know where you get your information about Native American skills that would impress you to write, "It certainly was not the pre-Colombian native americans because they did not develop metallurgy."
I am Tsalagi (Cherokee), and the Tsalagihi DID develop metallurgy in regard to copper. Ancient Tsalagi burials and archaeological sites contain copper jewelry that was made from copper that was refined by our people. The graves and the ornaments predate Columbus by a few hundred years--around 800-900 AD, which would have been roughly 592-692 years before Columbus "discovered' the Caribbean islands and, with his brothers' help, murdered one island tribe to extinction and killed approximately 125,000 indigenous people (half the population) on the island that is now Haiti and the Dominican Republic.
Gold is a metal, too. The indigenous people whom Columbus first encountered and later murdered to extinction wore gold earrings and other gold jewelry. They mined the gold, refined it, and crafted it into jewelry. Likewise with the Maya and the Aztecs. Their knowledge of metallurgy in general was limited, but it did exist, along with effective ways of crafting gold and copper into jewelry and other items.
You really should read up on Native American history and cultures--or you could just ask some Native Americans. We are still pretty good at keeping historical accounts of our ancestors and our culture. The Eastern Band of Cherokees at the Qualla Boundary in NC have the Museum of the Cherokee Indian that could enlighten you. You can contact them through the website at http://www.cherokeemuseum.org/
Also, these tales of white-skinned (as opposed to light skinned), 10-feet-tall giants are fictional stories. They are so widespread, because long before Columbus was born, the Indigenous Nations of North America had established trade routes that connected Indigenous villages across the continent, and it wasn't just trade goods, salt, pipestone, chert, food crops, and crafts that were traded. Indigenous traders also shared and collected stories from other tribal cultures and passed them on as they traveled among the villages, then they told them to their own people when they returned home. Through a series of trades and traders, within a few months a story from the Atlantic coast could--and often did--make its way to the Pacific coast.
What non-Indigenous people obviously have a hard time grasping is that our oral tradition has three basic categories; 1) The History of Our People; 2) Religious and Creation Myths; and 3) Stories--Fables for Moral Instruction (similar to Aesop's Fables) and Entertainment.
A good story was a valuable commodity among the ancient Indigenous Nations, and they were shared widely. Some of the Uncle Remus stories about animals were taken directly from Tsalagi (Cherokee), Creek, Chickasaw, and Choctaw fables that have been around for hundreds of years, maybe longer. Keep in mind that there was no written language to speak of, no radio, no TV, no worldwide web, no computers, and no libraries. Stories were a favorite form of entertainment. Most villages had storytellers; and the traders wore two proverbial headdresses, that of a trader of goods, and that of storyteller/gatherer.
It should be noted that whenever a village or tribal nation would hear a new story from another tribal nation, they would change the story slightly by embellishing the story with little cultural tidbits or local landmarks, or added details to adapt the story to their culture and "own" the story in a sense. It also made the story seem more "real" to the listener.
For effect, some storytellers would begin or end a particularly exciting or fanciful story with a suggestion that the story was told to him as being a true story, even though all but the small children knew that it was not. The effect was that it sparked the imaginations of the listeners. There were fictional stories of animals; people; magic and magicians; sgili (withches) and black magic, such as the Ravenmocker; fantastic fictional creatures, such as the giant serpent Uktena; and strange races of humans, such as the white skinned, 10 feet tall cannibals that suddenly vanished without a trace.
The tales of the 10 feet tall white skinned giants were from the "Story" category, created for entertainment.
As for the bones in the cave in Nevada, wild animals such as wolves, coyotes, and rodents would account for "a few" of the bones being broken and the marrow removed. It was not unheard of to use a cave as a burial site. There are caves in the Southeast that are burial sites. In those caves are human bones, and some of those bones were broken and the marrow eaten. When a bone is broken and rodents eat the marrow, the result looks like the marrow has been scraped out of the bone with some sort of tool, when the only tool actually used were the rodent's teeth.
Anthropologists and archaeologists are very good at creating entirely speculative stories to go along with their findings of something they really don't understand. I have been on archaeological sites to protect graves from archaeologists, and I've seen and heard some of the ridiculous speculations that they fabricate; things that I knew to be completely off-base. The bones in the Nevada cave is among them. I don't know if the anthropologists were that uninformed, or if they just saw what they wanted to see.
Thanks
Kobe Bryant, for example was 6'6" at 11 years old. Andre the Giant was 7'4" at 12 years old. Look at basketball rosters and see how many people are above 7' tall. The tallest recorded human was 8'11" tall. That's almost 9 feet. And imagine that these modern records only go back to recorded history meaning these people had to be around modern civilization to be measured. Humans have been existing for 40 thousand years, give or take. There have been many giants throughout history.
I am delighted to know that there ARE other learned people in this world. I too, believe that Earth has been previously visited by intelligent extra-terrestrials and that they were VERY ADVANCED and definitely left their mark in ancient Iraq, and the whole of the Middle East countries. We need to see more information posted about those ancients and for those who "NAY-SAY", please do learn to read the ancient languages - cuneiform would be a great start. Tens of thousands of tablets relating the history of the ancients are engraved on these tablets and make for amazing learning and insight of previous times. With respect for all other students of history, Elaine. P.S. It is believed that other sites of ancient space-ports are BAAL-BECK and the SINAI PENINSULAR and also SOUTH AMERICA'S WEST COAST. And I believe more are yet to be discovered. And finally, DON'T SHOOT the messenger (me), just do your OWN IN-DEPTH RESEARCH.
The Aleph Bet was devised by Kenaanite laborers and slaves in Egypt and moved with them to the Levant as a whole as they were expelled from Egypt
Hello John and thank you for your comment. You are correct that the Hopi territory is very close to the Grand Canyon. Many Hopi clans believe that they emerged into this the 4th world at the Canyon. The Supai (Navel) village is located at the bottom of the Canyon and a great place to visit if you like to hike. I think the Egyptian cave you mentioned was discovered by a man named Kincaid who work for the Smithsonian and was exploring the canyon back in 1909. When he got to Phoenix he wrote an article for the Phoenix Gazette. The cave nor the artifacts have ever been found. If they exist, I think they would be located upstream from the junction of the little Colorado and the Colorado. Many of the ancient villages surrounding the Hopi villages, and the Hopi villages form the outline of Orion. 1st Mesa, 2nd Mesa, and 3rd Mesa form his mid-section, Walnut Canyon his head, Wupaki the star Bellatrix, Homol’ovl near Winslow the star Betelgeuse. So Orion’s spear would be pointing at the village of Supai. If all the man stars are represented on the ground by ancient villages, than the star in his shield over the canyon should be the location of the cave you mentioned. You might take a look at Gary David’s book “The Orion Zone”.
Many of the other clan believe they crossed over a large ocean on rafts always heading East and then they traveled North to their present location.
Good things in your future. tom
Thomas O. Mills, some posters here have cast doubt over the Hopi knowing anything about ancient Egypt. But would I be right in saying that Hopi territory borders the Grand canyon, in which it's said that Egyptian artefacts have been found in caves and structures believed to be ancient pyramids? I seem to remember reading about this somewhere, and if true would surely erase doubt of the Hopi being ignorant of things Egyptian? I really enjoyed the piece by the way, thank you.
Thanks for taking a look. all the best. tom
I don’t remember saying that the non-native populaton of North America constructed anything.
tom
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