The only spider stories I can recall reading is the Anasazi Trickster Spider both covered in Africa an Mesoamerica apparently.
For me those were children's stories; however, I'm still in the midst of studying a rather fascinating Biblical Text an lectures online pertaining too Enoch. I've noted that each study each lecture agrees on this one topic...
Fallen Angel's known as The Watchers launched a number of experiments on the whole of Creation here on Earth many of those experiments were inflicted on all the Animal's, Bird's, Bugs and Insects, if that knife welding Spider deity is for Truth then evidence of what those Watcher Angel's did is proof.
Not everybody is going to agree with me on this and that's cool but, it's a possibility that being was real also not something I'd ever want to meet myself. I'll end this discussion here so until next time, Everyone, Goodbye!
In the US, fifty years old is the cutoff for archaeological sites. I guess the thing that differentiates it from grave robbing is the permitting process. Most of the bodies excavated nowadays are reburied fairly quickly also.
I can get behind archaeologists removing bodies for reburial, as opposed to leaving them to be bulldozed during a construction project. But storing them in boxes and putting them on display to be gawked is horrifying to me.
I'll say this and then leave it be I feel that the Trojan War took place in The Antediluvan World; Pre-Deluge Era that would be along the Timeline of Genesis & Jubilees. My reasoning?
In Genesis chapter 6; the Sacred Scriptures depicts a Time when Earth was filled with violence the only thing Man wanted too do that was Evil in his heart so much God was sorry he ever made Man which is why The Deluge took place.
The violence of King Agamemnon & his brother Menalus families household just gave confirmation to just how violent the days before The Flood truly were and certainly an accurate reason behind the Flood altogether.
Something I read in a Biblical Text made me think of the Trojan War, but it's possible from a Sacred Text that I read The Trojan War might have been referred too as The War of The Giant's; according to this Biblical Account: A Giant kidnapped another Giant's wife, an a War ensued to get the Wife back.
Surprisingly the battle ended right before it had truly begun only one Giant died but, it was an accident because another young Giant hadn't got Word The War was over in time. That action nearly resulted in another War of The Giant's.
Still if it was a whole other War altogether then I still believe the Trojan War took place before The Deluge. My only clue to this possibility lies with Genesis chapter 11; God changing the Universal language too many at The Tower of Babel.
The significance of the multiple languages is 8 witnesses both lived through and saw The people of the Pre-Deluge World; when the languages changed the names of the people from The Antediluvan World changed with it including infamous War's that took place on a regular basis.
No I don't have exact proof on this Subject King Agamemnon an The Trojan War but, I've always trusted God first then his word which is The Bible for me that's all I need as Proof.
I think this is where I'll leave it here for now this discussion concerning Agamemnon and The Trojan War so until next time, Everyone, Goodbye!
Jeremy , you have several subjects mixed up there . Rectangles & Squares aren’t natural shapes , & the many other things you’ve mentioned are valid in themselves , but not on the subject at hand . You need to start studying the things you’ve listed , you know some aspects of the ancient sciences and some of religious practices. Knowing the terminologies is a good start , but I’ve been at studying all this sort of thing for years & am just beginning to scratch the surfaces of what ‘ it’s all about ‘ – I know I have a long ways to go ! And a hint as a friend in Ancient History here ; Please learn how to construct sentences with grammar that makes sense & one may follow , practice writing an actual story , & my words are meant as constructive criticism , do not be disheartened ; Be encouraged in ancient studies & to voice your opinions & thoughts honestly & in a straightforward manner . ( Don’t give up – We Need more people to read & research ! )
Return what was taken. Compensate for illegal possession by assisting in creating the correct preservation site in Greece. What if the British cultural and historical symbols were taken? Stop being mercenaries.
Considering the sad state the Elgin Marbles would be had they remained in Athens, the Greeks should be thankful the marbles have been protected all this time.
If you have ever actually seen a vimana, as I have, and then watched and seen how instantaneously such visions dematerialize and disappear, the existence of such texts, both fake and genuine, can be better understood as science fiction inspired by God.
When Christians in their billions daily say the Lord’s Prayer, they restate “Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be done on Earth, as it is in Heaven”, and God naturally follows this to the delight of all believers.
Articles that claim scripture as History rather than as a mixture of history and visions combined to give us literature as such, cant see the wood for the trees.
Will they in future cause H.G.Wells books and short stories to be considered also as fact, just as Americans allowed themselves to be duped by a radio broadcast of the War of the Worlds despite Welles several given warnings?
I have no doubt such visions have always given rise to texts like these old Indian ones. Spoiler alert: one can take this even further.
The evidence of fission having taken place in Mohenjo-Daro and other sites in Kashmir and elsewhere may of course also be completely faked by our Creator, as can photographs on Google of anything including suspiciously large crashed spaceships in Antartica.
Lets face cit, if you were omnipotent and omniscient you could have a ball, couldn’t you? “Whom Allah leadeth astray…….” and all that!
Revelation, or what Jesus sent through the Bardo by God to John, on Patmos, might not be about Earth, or us, at all.
It might refer to the destruction of all life on Mars. Although termed a prophecy it is in translation at least almost all in the past tense. The foundation of it is in the past tense. It refers to the oceans all drying up, for example. If one accepts the scriptural claim that Christ’s spirit predates the Creation of Earth, that, and the fact we dont know how old he is, gives rise to this possibility. Again the Koran asks how many nations have we destroyed before you, so that it and Revelation can be read as examples and warnings to us, using the now dead red planet, of what comes about if we dont behave!
Here's my take on the Lost City of Atlantis there has to be some kernel of truth when people from diverse backgrounds and languages keep bringing up Lost City of Atlantis surely people might consider this place existed?
Because of how I believe as a Christian and daily reading of The Bible not too mention Bible Study on a variety of Subject's; I think Atlantis existed in the days before The Great Deluge, after the Great Flood Atlantis plunged beneath the waves like everything else did that thrived during the Antediluvan World. It's my opinion and I'm sticking with why Atlantis is no longer seen.
As for Percy Fawcett he was a Subject on an Unsolved Mysteries segment the dedicated program to Fawcett actually discussed him sharing with the outside World of seeing an 60 foot long Anaconda, in the Jungles of Brazil during first Surveyor Job.
He was predictably not taken serious but, Fawcett also said he had seen prehistoric animals that were said to be extinct but apparently was thriving deep in the Jungles of Brazil (Fawcett saw living Sauropods & Therapods).
Fawcett going back to the Jungles of Brazil and Bolivia was his way if proofing he was right which is why Fawcetts mysterious disappearance was featured on Unsolved Mysteries to begin with admittedly they didn't mention The Lost City of Z in the segment.
I realize that the 60 foot long Anaconda might be considered a exaggeration but, Fawcett was a respected person in his field of Surveying that's why He was approach to explore Brazil and Bolivia. Fawcett was best friends with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Fawcett left notes with Doyle from his exploring the twin jungles of Brazil and Bolivia Fawcett was the inspiration for Doyle's famous adventure book The Lost World, some of Doyle's Book has a little of Fawcetts notes in the storyline.
Going back to that 60 foot long Anaconda Fawcett saw exploring Brazil's Jungle along the Amazon River, I'm wondering if maybe the Anaconda was actually a living Titanoboa, that big snake fossil discovered in Columbia perhaps some species were still alive.
I guess my argument for Percy Fawcett is He was there in the dual jungles of Brazil and Bolivia and I was not so I can't say Fawcett didn't see what he saw. All we have from the lesson of Fawcett is that He and his Team never came back.
The Lost Land of 1066 wasn't that the same year Europe is gearing up for The Crusades in The Middle East? I don't suppose anyone thought of a Mega Quake under the sea being a Cause either that are there was another War happening in Heaven.
Julfar Medevial City that once thrived copious noted that the place existed but, can't be found.
If I didn't know that Tyre in The Bible is Turkey I would of thought Julfar was beneath the sea too, nonetheless I know in Isaiah & Ezekiel, that God repeatedly informs these two prophets to pour out judgement on Nations and Cities whose Sins are stinking to high Heaven.
Based on the description of Julfar in Saudi Arabia this article, it appears to match one of the Nation's whose Abominations are not sitting well with God.
The details however in this article puts it in Medevial Saudi Arabia so it kind of makes me think of in Genesis a King by the name of Melchdezaich He is a priestly King known for worshipping The Living God he blesses Abraham after God gives him victory over enemies that kidnapped his nephew Lot and family.
The name of this Kingdom ruled over by Melchdezaich is Salem not joking the King's name mean's King of Righteousness.
Honestly, I did think Salem was in Tyre but, I hadn't considered Saudi Arabia where this Julfar is said to have been located.
I guess last City The Aztecs territory in Mexico City attempts at draining the water to get to the gold and other treasures, I do remember reading in Enoch about the Fallen Angel's and their children, that they could create gold, silver, Copper, an Iron.
If those treasures came from that abominable endeavor one seeking these treasures maybe battling against God since the reason behind The Great Deluge, that I mentioned earlier was too destroy Them, Drive Them to extinction and all that had been produced by the children of those Fallen Angel's.
This was an exciting article read about look forward to learning more on these 5 subject's in this article. So until next time, Everyone, Goodbye!
Josephus is selectively quoted as an original source when it suits the narrative of some historians, but disparaged if what he tells does not suit them. He is a valuable source, and consistently objective, even when it calls into question some decisions he made in his personal life which were to his own advantage, and which many writers would conceal to protect their image. He was a person of some influence and power but eventually went over to the Roman side after their victory, lived in Rome, and enjoyed comfort and influence with Vespasian and Titus, and emperors after them, which is why some historians condemn him.
As far as the stories about Jesus’ origin and life, there isn’t much known except for a few years prior to his execution. Everything is speculation, so anything can be said, but being Cleopatra’s grandson is a little over the top. Cleopatra had four children, Caesarion by Caesar who was murdered after Cleopatra died and the other three by Antony were taken to Rome by Octavian. They lived well, raised by Octavian’s sister Octavia, but the twin boys died without any reference in any records which have survived, and the daughter named Cleopatra was married to an African king Juba II of Namibia. Octavian (by then known as Augustus) provided a dowry, and Namibia became an ally of Rome.
Why should Greece create exact replicas of their Ancient Parthenon Marbles, The Parthenon belongs to Greece, if it anyone should create replicas of The Parthenon Marbles then it ought to be Britain and Britain keeps the replicas while Greece gets the original Parthenon back.
Argument it shouldn't of been taken in the first place to begin with but it happen and now a grave injustice must be rectified by Britain to Greece.
I guess that's all I have to share on this Subject about the Parthenon Marbles other than the sins of the father's fall upon the generation's. Well kjcarroll until next time, Goodbye!
There is a podcast miniseries on the Trojan war that was supposedly told from the oldest stories on the war by Jeff Wright. He tells it purely as a myth without judgement or hinting at any accuracy etc.
This procedure was most likely done when the person was alive and not during post mortem. It is obvious that the procedure had been done before it was done on this mummy which they refer to as Usermontu. The procedure had been done on numerous occasions in order to perfect the procedure which is comparable to modern day biomechanical procedures for the same knee problems.. That tell me that ancient Egyptians lead the world in medicine, surgical procedures, constructing multi-story buildings such as pyramids, Aqueducts, tunnels, FIRST RIVER DAMS along the Nile, worlds first religions, written language known as Hieroglyphics, as well as the PAPER (papyrus) and INK to write with, and were the first humans to wear designer Egyptian clothes, while outside of Africa, people walked and ran around naked hunting for wild animals to kill so that they could enjoy a bloody meal...
Hi Roberto Peron, I really do agree with everything you stated regarding the sophisticated medical procedures that were performed by ancient Egyptian medical experts and surgical procedures which they used on their patients. I also believe that the modern day egotistical racist and ethnocentric people of today will always downplay the genius of ancient peoples civilization, and especially those that are not of Europa origin. Anyway, I also agree that this was a good article, other than the fact that they had to add that the mummy showed some strands of “RED HAIR”, which was meant to send a subliminal message that the mummy when alive resembled a “GINGER” white typical Irish/Scottish looking fella ha ha na? They just could not complete the article which was primarily about a “KNEE SCREW” biomechanical procedure without attemptig to add RED HAIR which had absolutely nothing to do with the Knee Screw… I was surprised that they did not say that an ALIEN must have performed that procedure and not the ancient Egyptians, same as it must have been Aliens who built the pyramids in ancient Egypt and Nubia (present day Sudan).
-"at the time it wasn't recognised as stealing, more like preservation how many marble statues would have suffered from acid rain?" 1)Who said that? At the time was stealing.The preservation occured as excuse the few late decades.At the time there were no acid rain so the 'preservation' wasn't really an issue. -"Certainly not large enough to cover the Parthenon"! 1)How do you know that? 2)Did the British Museum cover the Parthenon? 3)Are you believe that they are not capable to cover indoors these exact parts of the Parthenon as British Museum did? -"More people go to the British museum than most museums in the world" 1)So they will do if these parts were in Athens Museum! 2)The people going to British Museum to admire what?Others civilizations inheritance?Show some dignity please.The only reason seems to be that they'll lose income.
To be sure, had Lord Elgin not removed the magnificent sculptures from the parthenon and shipped them off to Britain, they surely would have crumbled to dust or been very badly damaged. I believe he saved them. However, lack of documentation for their “legal” acquisition while the Ottomans had control over Greece is highly suspect. In my opinion, the marbles unquestionably belong to Greece and should be returned to the Greek people. It would be an extraordinary goodwill gesture.
I find it strange that The Iliad dealt with only part of the story of the Trojan War myth. In other myth cycles, epic poems & sagas there's usually a complete story from beginning to end; something like The Ring Cycle by Wagner (which is an epic opera of course not an epic poem but I hope you get the idea). Were there any poems that covered the beginnings of this myth? It was just Homer & Virgil? If there was, was it forever lost to the ‘Fires of Time’; the kind that gets Librarys all burned up.
All I have too say about The Saviour is what Christ told Ponitus Pilate upon hearing from the enraged crowd demanding Christ be Crucified claiming to be The Son of God; Pilate demanded too know if it were true, Jesus told him "My Kingdom is not of this World", and so with those Words spoken by Christ tells me Jesus came not from Egypt for Jesus' Kingdom, Jesus' Home is not of this World.
Cleopatra was dead by the Time Jesus was born in Bethlehem Ptolemy Dynasty was gone. Oh an a side note in 1995-1998, I watched a Scholarly Documentary Series Mysteries of The Bible; one of the segments dealt with The Final Stand against Rome Josephus apparently was a witness too this event anyway three different Jewish Historians and Academics compared Josephus to that as an Used Car Salesman the truly bad kind of car dealer and actually stated one can't take Josephus Word for Truth.
Hey I'm only sharing what the Jewish Historians pointed out in Mysteries of The Bible Series if anyone's interested they are all on ytube even bits of The Book of Enoch.
So this is all I wished to share with Everybody and so until next time, Everyone, Goodbye!
As it is true the British Museum has kept the Elgin Marbles in a protected and preserved state, the Parthenon Marbles still belong to the Greek people. I think they should be returned, but a plan for its conservation and preservation should be submitted by the Greek governmennt.
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Hi All,
The only spider stories I can recall reading is the Anasazi Trickster Spider both covered in Africa an Mesoamerica apparently.
For me those were children's stories; however, I'm still in the midst of studying a rather fascinating Biblical Text an lectures online pertaining too Enoch. I've noted that each study each lecture agrees on this one topic...
Fallen Angel's known as The Watchers launched a number of experiments on the whole of Creation here on Earth many of those experiments were inflicted on all the Animal's, Bird's, Bugs and Insects, if that knife welding Spider deity is for Truth then evidence of what those Watcher Angel's did is proof.
Not everybody is going to agree with me on this and that's cool but, it's a possibility that being was real also not something I'd ever want to meet myself. I'll end this discussion here so until next time, Everyone, Goodbye!
In the US, fifty years old is the cutoff for archaeological sites. I guess the thing that differentiates it from grave robbing is the permitting process. Most of the bodies excavated nowadays are reburied fairly quickly also.
I can get behind archaeologists removing bodies for reburial, as opposed to leaving them to be bulldozed during a construction project. But storing them in boxes and putting them on display to be gawked is horrifying to me.
Hi All,
I'll say this and then leave it be I feel that the Trojan War took place in The Antediluvan World; Pre-Deluge Era that would be along the Timeline of Genesis & Jubilees. My reasoning?
In Genesis chapter 6; the Sacred Scriptures depicts a Time when Earth was filled with violence the only thing Man wanted too do that was Evil in his heart so much God was sorry he ever made Man which is why The Deluge took place.
The violence of King Agamemnon & his brother Menalus families household just gave confirmation to just how violent the days before The Flood truly were and certainly an accurate reason behind the Flood altogether.
Something I read in a Biblical Text made me think of the Trojan War, but it's possible from a Sacred Text that I read The Trojan War might have been referred too as The War of The Giant's; according to this Biblical Account: A Giant kidnapped another Giant's wife, an a War ensued to get the Wife back.
Surprisingly the battle ended right before it had truly begun only one Giant died but, it was an accident because another young Giant hadn't got Word The War was over in time. That action nearly resulted in another War of The Giant's.
Still if it was a whole other War altogether then I still believe the Trojan War took place before The Deluge. My only clue to this possibility lies with Genesis chapter 11; God changing the Universal language too many at The Tower of Babel.
The significance of the multiple languages is 8 witnesses both lived through and saw The people of the Pre-Deluge World; when the languages changed the names of the people from The Antediluvan World changed with it including infamous War's that took place on a regular basis.
No I don't have exact proof on this Subject King Agamemnon an The Trojan War but, I've always trusted God first then his word which is The Bible for me that's all I need as Proof.
I think this is where I'll leave it here for now this discussion concerning Agamemnon and The Trojan War so until next time, Everyone, Goodbye!
Jeremy , you have several subjects mixed up there . Rectangles & Squares aren’t natural shapes , & the many other things you’ve mentioned are valid in themselves , but not on the subject at hand . You need to start studying the things you’ve listed , you know some aspects of the ancient sciences and some of religious practices. Knowing the terminologies is a good start , but I’ve been at studying all this sort of thing for years & am just beginning to scratch the surfaces of what ‘ it’s all about ‘ – I know I have a long ways to go ! And a hint as a friend in Ancient History here ; Please learn how to construct sentences with grammar that makes sense & one may follow , practice writing an actual story , & my words are meant as constructive criticism , do not be disheartened ; Be encouraged in ancient studies & to voice your opinions & thoughts honestly & in a straightforward manner . ( Don’t give up – We Need more people to read & research ! )
Return what was taken. Compensate for illegal possession by assisting in creating the correct preservation site in Greece. What if the British cultural and historical symbols were taken? Stop being mercenaries.
Considering the sad state the Elgin Marbles would be had they remained in Athens, the Greeks should be thankful the marbles have been protected all this time.
If you have ever actually seen a vimana, as I have, and then watched and seen how instantaneously such visions dematerialize and disappear, the existence of such texts, both fake and genuine, can be better understood as science fiction inspired by God.
When Christians in their billions daily say the Lord’s Prayer, they restate “Thy Kingdom Come, Thy Will be done on Earth, as it is in Heaven”, and God naturally follows this to the delight of all believers.
Articles that claim scripture as History rather than as a mixture of history and visions combined to give us literature as such, cant see the wood for the trees.
Will they in future cause H.G.Wells books and short stories to be considered also as fact, just as Americans allowed themselves to be duped by a radio broadcast of the War of the Worlds despite Welles several given warnings?
I have no doubt such visions have always given rise to texts like these old Indian ones. Spoiler alert: one can take this even further.
The evidence of fission having taken place in Mohenjo-Daro and other sites in Kashmir and elsewhere may of course also be completely faked by our Creator, as can photographs on Google of anything including suspiciously large crashed spaceships in Antartica.
Lets face cit, if you were omnipotent and omniscient you could have a ball, couldn’t you? “Whom Allah leadeth astray…….” and all that!
Revelation, or what Jesus sent through the Bardo by God to John, on Patmos, might not be about Earth, or us, at all.
It might refer to the destruction of all life on Mars. Although termed a prophecy it is in translation at least almost all in the past tense. The foundation of it is in the past tense. It refers to the oceans all drying up, for example. If one accepts the scriptural claim that Christ’s spirit predates the Creation of Earth, that, and the fact we dont know how old he is, gives rise to this possibility. Again the Koran asks how many nations have we destroyed before you, so that it and Revelation can be read as examples and warnings to us, using the now dead red planet, of what comes about if we dont behave!
Hi All,
Here's my take on the Lost City of Atlantis there has to be some kernel of truth when people from diverse backgrounds and languages keep bringing up Lost City of Atlantis surely people might consider this place existed?
Because of how I believe as a Christian and daily reading of The Bible not too mention Bible Study on a variety of Subject's; I think Atlantis existed in the days before The Great Deluge, after the Great Flood Atlantis plunged beneath the waves like everything else did that thrived during the Antediluvan World. It's my opinion and I'm sticking with why Atlantis is no longer seen.
As for Percy Fawcett he was a Subject on an Unsolved Mysteries segment the dedicated program to Fawcett actually discussed him sharing with the outside World of seeing an 60 foot long Anaconda, in the Jungles of Brazil during first Surveyor Job.
He was predictably not taken serious but, Fawcett also said he had seen prehistoric animals that were said to be extinct but apparently was thriving deep in the Jungles of Brazil (Fawcett saw living Sauropods & Therapods).
Fawcett going back to the Jungles of Brazil and Bolivia was his way if proofing he was right which is why Fawcetts mysterious disappearance was featured on Unsolved Mysteries to begin with admittedly they didn't mention The Lost City of Z in the segment.
I realize that the 60 foot long Anaconda might be considered a exaggeration but, Fawcett was a respected person in his field of Surveying that's why He was approach to explore Brazil and Bolivia. Fawcett was best friends with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
Fawcett left notes with Doyle from his exploring the twin jungles of Brazil and Bolivia Fawcett was the inspiration for Doyle's famous adventure book The Lost World, some of Doyle's Book has a little of Fawcetts notes in the storyline.
Going back to that 60 foot long Anaconda Fawcett saw exploring Brazil's Jungle along the Amazon River, I'm wondering if maybe the Anaconda was actually a living Titanoboa, that big snake fossil discovered in Columbia perhaps some species were still alive.
I guess my argument for Percy Fawcett is He was there in the dual jungles of Brazil and Bolivia and I was not so I can't say Fawcett didn't see what he saw. All we have from the lesson of Fawcett is that He and his Team never came back.
The Lost Land of 1066 wasn't that the same year Europe is gearing up for The Crusades in The Middle East? I don't suppose anyone thought of a Mega Quake under the sea being a Cause either that are there was another War happening in Heaven.
Julfar Medevial City that once thrived copious noted that the place existed but, can't be found.
If I didn't know that Tyre in The Bible is Turkey I would of thought Julfar was beneath the sea too, nonetheless I know in Isaiah & Ezekiel, that God repeatedly informs these two prophets to pour out judgement on Nations and Cities whose Sins are stinking to high Heaven.
Based on the description of Julfar in Saudi Arabia this article, it appears to match one of the Nation's whose Abominations are not sitting well with God.
The details however in this article puts it in Medevial Saudi Arabia so it kind of makes me think of in Genesis a King by the name of Melchdezaich He is a priestly King known for worshipping The Living God he blesses Abraham after God gives him victory over enemies that kidnapped his nephew Lot and family.
The name of this Kingdom ruled over by Melchdezaich is Salem not joking the King's name mean's King of Righteousness.
Honestly, I did think Salem was in Tyre but, I hadn't considered Saudi Arabia where this Julfar is said to have been located.
I guess last City The Aztecs territory in Mexico City attempts at draining the water to get to the gold and other treasures, I do remember reading in Enoch about the Fallen Angel's and their children, that they could create gold, silver, Copper, an Iron.
If those treasures came from that abominable endeavor one seeking these treasures maybe battling against God since the reason behind The Great Deluge, that I mentioned earlier was too destroy Them, Drive Them to extinction and all that had been produced by the children of those Fallen Angel's.
This was an exciting article read about look forward to learning more on these 5 subject's in this article. So until next time, Everyone, Goodbye!
Josephus is selectively quoted as an original source when it suits the narrative of some historians, but disparaged if what he tells does not suit them. He is a valuable source, and consistently objective, even when it calls into question some decisions he made in his personal life which were to his own advantage, and which many writers would conceal to protect their image. He was a person of some influence and power but eventually went over to the Roman side after their victory, lived in Rome, and enjoyed comfort and influence with Vespasian and Titus, and emperors after them, which is why some historians condemn him.
As far as the stories about Jesus’ origin and life, there isn’t much known except for a few years prior to his execution. Everything is speculation, so anything can be said, but being Cleopatra’s grandson is a little over the top. Cleopatra had four children, Caesarion by Caesar who was murdered after Cleopatra died and the other three by Antony were taken to Rome by Octavian. They lived well, raised by Octavian’s sister Octavia, but the twin boys died without any reference in any records which have survived, and the daughter named Cleopatra was married to an African king Juba II of Namibia. Octavian (by then known as Augustus) provided a dowry, and Namibia became an ally of Rome.
Hi kjcarroll,
Why should Greece create exact replicas of their Ancient Parthenon Marbles, The Parthenon belongs to Greece, if it anyone should create replicas of The Parthenon Marbles then it ought to be Britain and Britain keeps the replicas while Greece gets the original Parthenon back.
Argument it shouldn't of been taken in the first place to begin with but it happen and now a grave injustice must be rectified by Britain to Greece.
I guess that's all I have to share on this Subject about the Parthenon Marbles other than the sins of the father's fall upon the generation's. Well kjcarroll until next time, Goodbye!
There is a podcast miniseries on the Trojan war that was supposedly told from the oldest stories on the war by Jeff Wright. He tells it purely as a myth without judgement or hinting at any accuracy etc.
This procedure was most likely done when the person was alive and not during post mortem. It is obvious that the procedure had been done before it was done on this mummy which they refer to as Usermontu. The procedure had been done on numerous occasions in order to perfect the procedure which is comparable to modern day biomechanical procedures for the same knee problems.. That tell me that ancient Egyptians lead the world in medicine, surgical procedures, constructing multi-story buildings such as pyramids, Aqueducts, tunnels, FIRST RIVER DAMS along the Nile, worlds first religions, written language known as Hieroglyphics, as well as the PAPER (papyrus) and INK to write with, and were the first humans to wear designer Egyptian clothes, while outside of Africa, people walked and ran around naked hunting for wild animals to kill so that they could enjoy a bloody meal...
Hi Roberto Peron, I really do agree with everything you stated regarding the sophisticated medical procedures that were performed by ancient Egyptian medical experts and surgical procedures which they used on their patients. I also believe that the modern day egotistical racist and ethnocentric people of today will always downplay the genius of ancient peoples civilization, and especially those that are not of Europa origin. Anyway, I also agree that this was a good article, other than the fact that they had to add that the mummy showed some strands of “RED HAIR”, which was meant to send a subliminal message that the mummy when alive resembled a “GINGER” white typical Irish/Scottish looking fella ha ha na? They just could not complete the article which was primarily about a “KNEE SCREW” biomechanical procedure without attemptig to add RED HAIR which had absolutely nothing to do with the Knee Screw… I was surprised that they did not say that an ALIEN must have performed that procedure and not the ancient Egyptians, same as it must have been Aliens who built the pyramids in ancient Egypt and Nubia (present day Sudan).
Couldn’t agree more!
-"at the time it wasn't recognised as stealing, more like preservation
how many marble statues would have suffered from acid rain?"
1)Who said that? At the time was stealing.The preservation occured as excuse the few late decades.At the time there were no acid rain so the 'preservation' wasn't really an issue.
-"Certainly not large enough to cover the Parthenon"!
1)How do you know that?
2)Did the British Museum cover the Parthenon?
3)Are you believe that they are not capable to cover indoors these exact parts of the Parthenon as British Museum did?
-"More people go to the British museum than most museums in the world"
1)So they will do if these parts were in Athens Museum!
2)The people going to British Museum to admire what?Others civilizations inheritance?Show some dignity please.The only reason seems to be that they'll lose income.
To be sure, had Lord Elgin not removed the magnificent sculptures from the parthenon and shipped them off to Britain, they surely would have crumbled to dust or been very badly damaged. I believe he saved them. However, lack of documentation for their “legal” acquisition while the Ottomans had control over Greece is highly suspect. In my opinion, the marbles unquestionably belong to Greece and should be returned to the Greek people. It would be an extraordinary goodwill gesture.
I find it strange that The Iliad dealt with only part of the story of the Trojan War myth. In other myth cycles, epic poems & sagas there's usually a complete story from beginning to end; something like The Ring Cycle by Wagner (which is an epic opera of course not an epic poem but I hope you get the idea). Were there any poems that covered the beginnings of this myth? It was just Homer & Virgil? If there was, was it forever lost to the ‘Fires of Time’; the kind that gets Librarys all burned up.
Hi All,
All I have too say about The Saviour is what Christ told Ponitus Pilate upon hearing from the enraged crowd demanding Christ be Crucified claiming to be The Son of God; Pilate demanded too know if it were true, Jesus told him "My Kingdom is not of this World", and so with those Words spoken by Christ tells me Jesus came not from Egypt for Jesus' Kingdom, Jesus' Home is not of this World.
Cleopatra was dead by the Time Jesus was born in Bethlehem Ptolemy Dynasty was gone. Oh an a side note in 1995-1998, I watched a Scholarly Documentary Series Mysteries of The Bible; one of the segments dealt with The Final Stand against Rome Josephus apparently was a witness too this event anyway three different Jewish Historians and Academics compared Josephus to that as an Used Car Salesman the truly bad kind of car dealer and actually stated one can't take Josephus Word for Truth.
Hey I'm only sharing what the Jewish Historians pointed out in Mysteries of The Bible Series if anyone's interested they are all on ytube even bits of The Book of Enoch.
So this is all I wished to share with Everybody and so until next time, Everyone, Goodbye!
As it is true the British Museum has kept the Elgin Marbles in a protected and preserved state, the Parthenon Marbles still belong to the Greek people. I think they should be returned, but a plan for its conservation and preservation should be submitted by the Greek governmennt.
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