Scotland was under a couple of miles of ice in the iceage, so your idea for this site isn't possible.
I have an idea for you Mr Wagner. Maybe start submitting your own articles on Ancient Origins instead of continually making ill informed comments on others well researched articles.
It does make sense that this could either be a precursor or a companion piece to the Egyptian complex. Whenever I see pictures of the carvings, it always makes me think of a picturebook version of Ragnorok in my head for some reason. If you are correct that this is in conjunction with Egypt then I would think that the pictures would be precursors to the relatively more modern Heiroglyphs we see in the dynastic writing. and there should be a correlation to the oldest versions of Egyptian mythology.
I enjoyed reading this article "Tracing The Footprint's of the Philistine's", I recall reading in The Bible; Genesis about the origins of The Philistine's, the scriptures mentions they arrived in Mesopotamia after the Eruption of a Volcano somewhere around Crete.
I also remembered A&E's original Documentary series then on channel 43 Mysteries of The Bible The Philistine's but the program narrated by Richard Kiley an Scripture read, by the late Actress Jean Simmons that some Scholars disagreed with that estimation about The Philistine's first introduced in Genesis.
It was said that The Father of History Herodotus visited The Holy Land in the year 540 B.C.E an bestowed on the region the name Palestine which of course means "Land of The Philistine's" though, I did think they themselves were extinct.
After learning from Jeopardy Hosted by the late Host Alex Trebek about The Canaanites not being extinct an more so living in Lebanon who knows perhaps The Philistine's is still here.
I did notice as I read the article about Ashera an Baal; about Ashera being the Wife of Yahweh. The issue with this period in Bible history is that Israel an Judah were worshipping graven images, idols however the name Ashera looks a bit familiar too me all is have too do is remove The A from the name an you get Hera, I find that rather intriguing.
In the Middle East at least there appears to be an consensus that The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost who makes up The Holy Trinity is in fact Woman; in some Bible Book's "She" is referenced in Proverbs as Wisdom an other's as The Holy One.
A long time ago in Church History when someone was Baptized or the Benediction was done by the Pastor; they once said I now Baptize you In the Name of The Father, The Son, and The Mother today She's addressed as Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit.
Harkening back too Israel & Judah worshipping the Idol's Baal a weather deity an Ashera the Scriptures say that they passed their children through the Fire.
This means they are sacrificing their children; to these Graven Image's which is why the Scriptures always described God as Very Wroth towards Israel & Judah for their constant Backsliding Behavior an breaking The Covenant with God.
By the time one reads Ezekiel God addresses Israel, Judah, Samaria as a Rebellious People; while the first wave of People were taken from Judah to face The Babylonian Captivity.
I think this is where I'll end the discussion about The Philistine's, Israel & Graven Image's of Baal & Ashera. So until next Discussion, Everyone Goodbye!
I enjoyed reading this article "Tracing The Footprint's of the Philistine's", I recall reading in The Bible; Genesis about the origins of The Philistine's, the scriptures mentions they arrived in Mesopotamia after the Eruption of a Volcano somewhere around Crete.
I also remembered A&E's original Documentary series then on channel 43 Mysteries of The Bible The Philistine's but the program narrated by Richard Kiley an Scripture read, by the late Actress Jean Simmons that some Scholars disagreed with that estimation about The Philistine's first introduced in Genesis.
It was said that The Father of History Herodotus visited The Holy Land in the year 540 B.C.E an bestowed on the region the name Palestine which of course means "Land of The Philistine's" though, I did think they themselves were extinct.
After learning from Jeopardy Hosted by the late Host Alex Trebek about The Canaanites not being extinct an more so living in Lebanon who knows perhaps The Philistine's is still here.
I did notice as I read the article about Ashera an Baal; about Ashera being the Wife of Yahweh. The issue with this period in Bible history is that Israel an Judah were worshipping graven images, idols however the name Ashera looks a bit familiar too me all is have too do is remove The A from the name an you get Hera, I find that rather intriguing.
In the Middle East at least there appears to be an consensus that The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost who makes up The Holy Trinity is in fact Woman; in some Bible Book's "She" is referenced in Proverbs as Wisdom an other's as The Holy One.
A long time ago in Church History when someone was Baptized or the Benediction was done by the Pastor; they once said I now Baptize you In the Name of The Father, The Son, and The Mother today She's addressed as Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit.
Harkening back too Israel & Judah worshipping the Idol's Baal a weather deity an Ashera the Scriptures say that they passed their children through the Fire.
This means they are sacrificing their children; to these Graven Image's which is why the Scriptures always described God as Very Wroth towards Israel & Judah for their constant Backsliding Behavior an breaking The Covenant with God.
By the time one reads Ezekiel God addresses Israel, Judah, Samaria as a Rebellious People; while the first wave of People were taken from Judah to face The Babylonian Captivity.
I think this is where I'll end the discussion about The Philistine's, Israel & Graven Image's of Baal & Ashera. So until next Discussion, Everyone Goodbye!
I enjoyed reading this article "Tracing The Footprint's of the Philistine's", I recall reading in The Bible; Genesis about the origins of The Philistine's, the scriptures mentions they arrived in Mesopotamia after the Eruption of a Volcano somewhere around Crete.
I also remembered A&E's original Documentary series then on channel 43 Mysteries of The Bible The Philistine's but the program narrated by Richard Kiley an Scripture read, by the late Actress Jean Simmons that some Scholars disagreed with that estimation about The Philistine's first introduced in Genesis.
It was said that The Father of History Herodotus visited The Holy Land in the year 540 B.C.E an bestowed on the region the name Palestine which of course means "Land of The Philistine's" though, I did think they themselves were extinct.
After learning from Jeopardy Hosted by the late Host Alex Trebek about The Canaanites not being extinct an more so living in Lebanon who knows perhaps The Philistine's is still here.
I did notice as I read the article about Ashera an Baal; about Ashera being the Wife of Yahweh. The issue with this period in Bible history is that Israel an Judah were worshipping graven images, idols however the name Ashera looks a bit familiar too me all is have too do is remove The A from the name an you get Hera, I find that rather intriguing.
In the Middle East at least there appears to be an consensus that The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost who makes up The Holy Trinity is in fact Woman; in some Bible Book's "She" is referenced in Proverbs as Wisdom an other's as The Holy One.
A long time ago in Church History when someone was Baptized or the Benediction was done by the Pastor; they once said I now Baptize you In the Name of The Father, The Son, and The Mother today She's addressed as Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit.
Harkening back too Israel & Judah worshipping the Idol's Baal a weather deity an Ashera the Scriptures say that they passed their children through the Fire.
This means they are sacrificing their children; to these Graven Image's which is why the Scriptures always described God as Very Wroth towards Israel & Judah for their constant Backsliding Behavior an breaking The Covenant with God.
By the time one reads Ezekiel God addresses Israel, Judah, Samaria as a Rebellious People; while the first wave of People were taken from Judah to face The Babylonian Captivity.
I think this is where I'll end the discussion about The Philistine's, Israel & Graven Image's of Baal & Ashera. So until next Discussion, Everyone Goodbye!
Aw come on, there is not any large plain surrounded by “highest mountains” and extensoive remains of civilisation and cities, and many species and animals including elephants, and many other things in the mid-Atlantic ridge area.
I’ve looked at numerous maps and there is not any large landmass stretching from Icealand to Africa “and just as wide” there. The mid-Atlantic ridge is pretty narrow. Sources say they have found no sunken/submerged large landmass in Atlantic ocean seafloor. Nor is there any in the Indian Ocean, nor the Pacific according to conventional scientists except for the Zealandia landbridge, though there are seamounts in the Pacific.
I find it hard to be willing to be involved in this thread because the user name of the person in the original post is most foul and disgusting. I’m surprised that the forum moderators allow such a disgusting rude offensive name.
“The real Messiah was to be Zerubbabel, NOTJesus”
Actually the Minor Prophet verses referred to imply both Zerubbabel and Jeshua are types of the messiah (Yeshua/Jesus). Jeshua’s name and nature corresponds with Jesus’. Neither Zerubbabel nor Jeshua turned out to be any great messiah despite what they did do.
I am a writer, and joined AO after finding a great amount of useful information for stories I write. With a dozen mostly modern military fiction novels published I am swinging into new genres. At present I am working on a historical fiction series set in mid-13th century during the Mongol Invasion of Europe, and a seperate historical/fantasy series set in the years between the Fall of Man and expulsion from The Garden, up to the Judgement of Water and utter destruction of that civilization.
I find myself coming here to read an article on ancient megalithic carvings then four hours later find myself reading a history of post-Roman architecture and medieval boat building methods. Looking forward to gleaning and even sharing .
You should listen to the first half dozen or so podcasts on Kosmographia. Randall Carlston does a great job outlining where Atlantis is, and its exactly where I said it is. If you look on Google Maps/Earth at 30 north by 30 west, there are three spots on the ocean floor in the outline of Orion’s belt with the eastern most one being at least 2 concentric circles (its hard to tell on the map, could be more).
If you look at the Atzlan story vs the Atlantis story they are identical. The Aztec capital city according to Cortez was concentric circles of land and water (just like Atlantis) and if you pronounce Atlantis just as the ancient Greeks would have the only difference between ATLAN and ATZLAN is where you put your toungue. ANy etymologist will tell you that is one of the first indications of a possible connection. Plus you have to look at what the Mid-Atlantic ridge and surrounding area would have looked like pre YD. It was large enough. It stretched from Iceland to North Africa and it was almost as wide.
Scythians? In the deep forests of the German plain? Extremely doubtful. Also, writer confused between expanding Celtic people's and invading Scythians. One or the other, not both at the same time
I liked what you shared about Job. Job also teaches that there are more World's out there in The Universe than we give credit too. Apparently, both moments in Job had too do with God having a Meeting with All the Representatives of other World's, The Son's of God a reference to The Angel's in The Scriptures.
I found the interaction between God an Mastema/Satan intriguing when Reading Job.
I remember thinking how in the world did Earth wind up Represented by Satan? I found it curious on how God addressed Satan's presence before Him.
It was along the lines of Who Invited You?
Now I know once The First Parent's fell for the lies of Lucifer (his other name) Sin came into The World an a matter of criminal ways Earth an wall it's inhabitants was essentially Kidnapped by Satan.
Once Christ died on The Cross We as a People no longer belonged too Satan because Christ purchased Us with His Blood. Crazy times in The Ancient World huh?
Now as for the next Topic, I only found out about Jubilees after learning of It's existence through The Book's of Enoch, I suppose word of mouth wise with Jubilees is that the Sacred Text was written by The Prophet Moses.
Remember BILPA in Exodus after God re-affirmed the Covenant with The Israelites at Mt. Sinai? Which God had established with their Ancestor Abraham 630 year's before Their Time on Earth an Gave Israel the 10 Commandment's?
I AM, then told Moses to come an meet with Him in the Mountains of Mt. Sinai. According to Exodus; He was in God's Presence for the next 40 Day's.
It was while Moses was gone that All the People gave up on Moses, returning to them, an looked to worship something familiar an then descended in to Chaos through that Bull-Calf.
The Book of Jubilees teaches you what Moses was up for those 40 Days absent from The People at the Foot of Mt. Sinai The Holy Mountain of God. An in 1st King's Mt. Sinai is also known as Mt. Hebron.
Once I realized how terrified my fellow Believer's are of these Book's like Enoch & Jubilees; I had no other option, I couldn't trust in Human answers about these Book's; so I did what, I was taught by my family an the Churches I attended as a child.
I took my problem too God in prayer.
Why?
Because He's the Beginning, He's the Source too turn to about The Thing's that are taught in The Bible. I know He answered my prayer because He's been answering ever since.
Point being I can Trust Jubilees & Enoch He would have directed me elsewhere, I wouldn't even be Discussing Mastema in Jubilees. I know that name is referencing to the same Being the enemy mastema/Satan.
The lesson I learned from the experience? When it comes to These types of Bible Book's go To The Creator for Help.
Oh I just remember something very important Eve an the Serpent um the treachery was completed by one of Satan's Lt. Enoch said it's name gadreel is the evil-angel who in Enoch's words seduced Eve in Eden.
This is all I have too say with this discussion about mastema an Jubilees; until next discussion, Everyone, Goodbye!
Sorry Bruce I didn't see your post there before, or this forum seems to not post replies in order of time but in sub-posts like facebook does (which makes it hard to follow all the replies/comments). The mid-Atlantic ridge is too small for Atlantis which was very large. Also the ridge is emerging upwards and outwards not inwards and downwards, whereas Atlantis "sank". It is not certain that Atlantis is linked with similar names like Aztlan, because the Account says the story went from Atlantis to Egypt to Greece with the names translated into Egyptian and then into Greek. Though it is possible that the name was similar since the Atlas mountains name is of possible non/pre Greek origin. But Aztlan could possibly match Atlantis and possible have been somewhere like Tiahuanaco. Gadeira has some matches in South America. The many other islands is more likely Pacific Islands rather than Caribbean islands. Though "island" in Egyptian/Biblical can mean either island/isle, coastland, peninsula, continent, Old World, planet.
This is an extraordinary find to say the least an found in Tyre oh sorry Tyre's in The Bible; I meant Anatolia Turkey.
Last year in 2020 I think it was February or March there is a Temple that was uncovered in Anatolia. It was dedicated to the quote god of war. It's a figure of this being was etched in the The Temple Stone.
I think it's name was Ningirsu male this figure may have had another name as well Azazel. This figured appeared to have wing's attached to its body shaped like an butterfly or Moth wing's.
Anatolia is turning in to a regular hot bed of discovery for the Ancient World, in archeology with these deities bodies an heads discovered of these Greek deities.
One question will anyone do any Carbon dating to see how far back these Statues go in Ancient History?
I'm serious about my next question this is not a joke is there an system utilized in archeology or anthropology that could possibly lift Finger Prints from off these Statues?
I would think since they've been buried under Earth for so long perhaps something may have gotten preserved somehow.
That's all I have too share and question at the moment about this exciting discovery in Anatolia, Turkey, so until next discussion Everyone, Goodbye!
(It seems that some places in the Americas are also related to the leaders of Atlantis.) Here is Poseidon: dividing North America into ten kingdoms.
Plato: Of the second pair of twins he called one Ampheres, and the other Evaemon. To the elder of the third pair of twins he gave the name Mneseus, and Autochthon to the one who followed him. Of the fourth pair of twins he called the elder Elasippus (in honor of his grandmother), and the younger Mestor (Meso America). And of the fifth pair he gave to the elder the name of Azaes (Aztecs), and to the younger the name of Diaprepes (Texas).
All these and their descendants for many generations were the inhabitants and rulers of divers islands (Cuba, Bahamas, and Dominican Republic) in the open sea; and also, as has been already said, they held sway in our direction over the country within the Pillars as far as Egypt and Tyrrhenia (Italy).
Just like a politician, it doesn”t matter whether it”s a lie, just get a story out with your name on it. Since most people don’t actually read the story, all they remember is the name. Give it a couple of years, that guy will be running for some office, and it won’t matter if he was wrong.
1000 years from now someone will find my lost canoe with all the ‘artifacts’ still inside it. Will my Swiss Army knife be deemed ‘ritualistic’? Or will the remains of my plastic wrapped nature bar become an ‘offering’? Likewise, will simple grafitti memorializing that someone ‘was here’ like the famous Leroy aquire religious overtones?
Why does everything still have to receive possibly erroneous tags of ritualistic or regligious significance? Isn’t applying these terms to a find just a way to make the find more significant? Today people still like to explore interesting places just to see what’s there. Sometimes they go back to those same places just because and not because its a pilgramidge. They carry with them typical items such as snacks, water, implements…..and they mark their paths with “I was here graffiti. “
Wishing that modern science would refrain from putting such hashtags on things….unless of course there is a 5 x 8” card attached by a frayed hemp rope to the item saying that “this is the official ritual knife used by Otpeomia on visiting this our holy and religious site.”
Here you can navigate quickly through all comments made in any article sorted by date/time.
Scotland was under a couple of miles of ice in the iceage, so your idea for this site isn't possible.
I have an idea for you Mr Wagner. Maybe start submitting your own articles on Ancient Origins instead of continually making ill informed comments on others well researched articles.
It does make sense that this could either be a precursor or a companion piece to the Egyptian complex. Whenever I see pictures of the carvings, it always makes me think of a picturebook version of Ragnorok in my head for some reason. If you are correct that this is in conjunction with Egypt then I would think that the pictures would be precursors to the relatively more modern Heiroglyphs we see in the dynastic writing. and there should be a correlation to the oldest versions of Egyptian mythology.
I only came here for the comments. And the first has lived up to expectations. Comedy gold!
These comments are gold... I learn much from both articles and comments. Thank you.
Hi All,
I enjoyed reading this article "Tracing The Footprint's of the Philistine's", I recall reading in The Bible; Genesis about the origins of The Philistine's, the scriptures mentions they arrived in Mesopotamia after the Eruption of a Volcano somewhere around Crete.
I also remembered A&E's original Documentary series then on channel 43 Mysteries of The Bible The Philistine's but the program narrated by Richard Kiley an Scripture read, by the late Actress Jean Simmons that some Scholars disagreed with that estimation about The Philistine's first introduced in Genesis.
It was said that The Father of History Herodotus visited The Holy Land in the year 540 B.C.E an bestowed on the region the name Palestine which of course means "Land of The Philistine's" though, I did think they themselves were extinct.
After learning from Jeopardy Hosted by the late Host Alex Trebek about The Canaanites not being extinct an more so living in Lebanon who knows perhaps The Philistine's is still here.
I did notice as I read the article about Ashera an Baal; about Ashera being the Wife of Yahweh. The issue with this period in Bible history is that Israel an Judah were worshipping graven images, idols however the name Ashera looks a bit familiar too me all is have too do is remove The A from the name an you get Hera, I find that rather intriguing.
In the Middle East at least there appears to be an consensus that The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost who makes up The Holy Trinity is in fact Woman; in some Bible Book's "She" is referenced in Proverbs as Wisdom an other's as The Holy One.
A long time ago in Church History when someone was Baptized or the Benediction was done by the Pastor; they once said I now Baptize you In the Name of The Father, The Son, and The Mother today She's addressed as Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit.
Harkening back too Israel & Judah worshipping the Idol's Baal a weather deity an Ashera the Scriptures say that they passed their children through the Fire.
This means they are sacrificing their children; to these Graven Image's which is why the Scriptures always described God as Very Wroth towards Israel & Judah for their constant Backsliding Behavior an breaking The Covenant with God.
By the time one reads Ezekiel God addresses Israel, Judah, Samaria as a Rebellious People; while the first wave of People were taken from Judah to face The Babylonian Captivity.
I think this is where I'll end the discussion about The Philistine's, Israel & Graven Image's of Baal & Ashera. So until next Discussion, Everyone Goodbye!
Hi All,
I enjoyed reading this article "Tracing The Footprint's of the Philistine's", I recall reading in The Bible; Genesis about the origins of The Philistine's, the scriptures mentions they arrived in Mesopotamia after the Eruption of a Volcano somewhere around Crete.
I also remembered A&E's original Documentary series then on channel 43 Mysteries of The Bible The Philistine's but the program narrated by Richard Kiley an Scripture read, by the late Actress Jean Simmons that some Scholars disagreed with that estimation about The Philistine's first introduced in Genesis.
It was said that The Father of History Herodotus visited The Holy Land in the year 540 B.C.E an bestowed on the region the name Palestine which of course means "Land of The Philistine's" though, I did think they themselves were extinct.
After learning from Jeopardy Hosted by the late Host Alex Trebek about The Canaanites not being extinct an more so living in Lebanon who knows perhaps The Philistine's is still here.
I did notice as I read the article about Ashera an Baal; about Ashera being the Wife of Yahweh. The issue with this period in Bible history is that Israel an Judah were worshipping graven images, idols however the name Ashera looks a bit familiar too me all is have too do is remove The A from the name an you get Hera, I find that rather intriguing.
In the Middle East at least there appears to be an consensus that The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost who makes up The Holy Trinity is in fact Woman; in some Bible Book's "She" is referenced in Proverbs as Wisdom an other's as The Holy One.
A long time ago in Church History when someone was Baptized or the Benediction was done by the Pastor; they once said I now Baptize you In the Name of The Father, The Son, and The Mother today She's addressed as Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit.
Harkening back too Israel & Judah worshipping the Idol's Baal a weather deity an Ashera the Scriptures say that they passed their children through the Fire.
This means they are sacrificing their children; to these Graven Image's which is why the Scriptures always described God as Very Wroth towards Israel & Judah for their constant Backsliding Behavior an breaking The Covenant with God.
By the time one reads Ezekiel God addresses Israel, Judah, Samaria as a Rebellious People; while the first wave of People were taken from Judah to face The Babylonian Captivity.
I think this is where I'll end the discussion about The Philistine's, Israel & Graven Image's of Baal & Ashera. So until next Discussion, Everyone Goodbye!
Hi All,
I enjoyed reading this article "Tracing The Footprint's of the Philistine's", I recall reading in The Bible; Genesis about the origins of The Philistine's, the scriptures mentions they arrived in Mesopotamia after the Eruption of a Volcano somewhere around Crete.
I also remembered A&E's original Documentary series then on channel 43 Mysteries of The Bible The Philistine's but the program narrated by Richard Kiley an Scripture read, by the late Actress Jean Simmons that some Scholars disagreed with that estimation about The Philistine's first introduced in Genesis.
It was said that The Father of History Herodotus visited The Holy Land in the year 540 B.C.E an bestowed on the region the name Palestine which of course means "Land of The Philistine's" though, I did think they themselves were extinct.
After learning from Jeopardy Hosted by the late Host Alex Trebek about The Canaanites not being extinct an more so living in Lebanon who knows perhaps The Philistine's is still here.
I did notice as I read the article about Ashera an Baal; about Ashera being the Wife of Yahweh. The issue with this period in Bible history is that Israel an Judah were worshipping graven images, idols however the name Ashera looks a bit familiar too me all is have too do is remove The A from the name an you get Hera, I find that rather intriguing.
In the Middle East at least there appears to be an consensus that The Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost who makes up The Holy Trinity is in fact Woman; in some Bible Book's "She" is referenced in Proverbs as Wisdom an other's as The Holy One.
A long time ago in Church History when someone was Baptized or the Benediction was done by the Pastor; they once said I now Baptize you In the Name of The Father, The Son, and The Mother today She's addressed as Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit.
Harkening back too Israel & Judah worshipping the Idol's Baal a weather deity an Ashera the Scriptures say that they passed their children through the Fire.
This means they are sacrificing their children; to these Graven Image's which is why the Scriptures always described God as Very Wroth towards Israel & Judah for their constant Backsliding Behavior an breaking The Covenant with God.
By the time one reads Ezekiel God addresses Israel, Judah, Samaria as a Rebellious People; while the first wave of People were taken from Judah to face The Babylonian Captivity.
I think this is where I'll end the discussion about The Philistine's, Israel & Graven Image's of Baal & Ashera. So until next Discussion, Everyone Goodbye!
Aw come on, there is not any large plain surrounded by “highest mountains” and extensoive remains of civilisation and cities, and many species and animals including elephants, and many other things in the mid-Atlantic ridge area.
I’ve looked at numerous maps and there is not any large landmass stretching from Icealand to Africa “and just as wide” there. The mid-Atlantic ridge is pretty narrow. Sources say they have found no sunken/submerged large landmass in Atlantic ocean seafloor. Nor is there any in the Indian Ocean, nor the Pacific according to conventional scientists except for the Zealandia landbridge, though there are seamounts in the Pacific.
I find it hard to be willing to be involved in this thread because the user name of the person in the original post is most foul and disgusting. I’m surprised that the forum moderators allow such a disgusting rude offensive name.
“The real Messiah was to be Zerubbabel, NOTJesus”
Actually the Minor Prophet verses referred to imply both Zerubbabel and Jeshua are types of the messiah (Yeshua/Jesus). Jeshua’s name and nature corresponds with Jesus’. Neither Zerubbabel nor Jeshua turned out to be any great messiah despite what they did do.
Greetings Ancient Origins and Associated Humans,
I am a writer, and joined AO after finding a great amount of useful information for stories I write. With a dozen mostly modern military fiction novels published I am swinging into new genres. At present I am working on a historical fiction series set in mid-13th century during the Mongol Invasion of Europe, and a seperate historical/fantasy series set in the years between the Fall of Man and expulsion from The Garden, up to the Judgement of Water and utter destruction of that civilization.
I find myself coming here to read an article on ancient megalithic carvings then four hours later find myself reading a history of post-Roman architecture and medieval boat building methods. Looking forward to gleaning and even sharing .
Basil Sands
www.basilsands.com
You should listen to the first half dozen or so podcasts on Kosmographia. Randall Carlston does a great job outlining where Atlantis is, and its exactly where I said it is. If you look on Google Maps/Earth at 30 north by 30 west, there are three spots on the ocean floor in the outline of Orion’s belt with the eastern most one being at least 2 concentric circles (its hard to tell on the map, could be more).
If you look at the Atzlan story vs the Atlantis story they are identical. The Aztec capital city according to Cortez was concentric circles of land and water (just like Atlantis) and if you pronounce Atlantis just as the ancient Greeks would have the only difference between ATLAN and ATZLAN is where you put your toungue. ANy etymologist will tell you that is one of the first indications of a possible connection. Plus you have to look at what the Mid-Atlantic ridge and surrounding area would have looked like pre YD. It was large enough. It stretched from Iceland to North Africa and it was almost as wide.
Scythians? In the deep forests of the German plain? Extremely doubtful. Also, writer confused between expanding Celtic people's and invading Scythians. One or the other, not both at the same time
Hi BILPA,
I liked what you shared about Job. Job also teaches that there are more World's out there in The Universe than we give credit too. Apparently, both moments in Job had too do with God having a Meeting with All the Representatives of other World's, The Son's of God a reference to The Angel's in The Scriptures.
I found the interaction between God an Mastema/Satan intriguing when Reading Job.
I remember thinking how in the world did Earth wind up Represented by Satan? I found it curious on how God addressed Satan's presence before Him.
It was along the lines of Who Invited You?
Now I know once The First Parent's fell for the lies of Lucifer (his other name) Sin came into The World an a matter of criminal ways Earth an wall it's inhabitants was essentially Kidnapped by Satan.
Once Christ died on The Cross We as a People no longer belonged too Satan because Christ purchased Us with His Blood. Crazy times in The Ancient World huh?
Now as for the next Topic, I only found out about Jubilees after learning of It's existence through The Book's of Enoch, I suppose word of mouth wise with Jubilees is that the Sacred Text was written by The Prophet Moses.
Remember BILPA in Exodus after God re-affirmed the Covenant with The Israelites at Mt. Sinai? Which God had established with their Ancestor Abraham 630 year's before Their Time on Earth an Gave Israel the 10 Commandment's?
I AM, then told Moses to come an meet with Him in the Mountains of Mt. Sinai. According to Exodus; He was in God's Presence for the next 40 Day's.
It was while Moses was gone that All the People gave up on Moses, returning to them, an looked to worship something familiar an then descended in to Chaos through that Bull-Calf.
The Book of Jubilees teaches you what Moses was up for those 40 Days absent from The People at the Foot of Mt. Sinai The Holy Mountain of God. An in 1st King's Mt. Sinai is also known as Mt. Hebron.
Once I realized how terrified my fellow Believer's are of these Book's like Enoch & Jubilees; I had no other option, I couldn't trust in Human answers about these Book's; so I did what, I was taught by my family an the Churches I attended as a child.
I took my problem too God in prayer.
Why?
Because He's the Beginning, He's the Source too turn to about The Thing's that are taught in The Bible. I know He answered my prayer because He's been answering ever since.
Point being I can Trust Jubilees & Enoch He would have directed me elsewhere, I wouldn't even be Discussing Mastema in Jubilees. I know that name is referencing to the same Being the enemy mastema/Satan.
The lesson I learned from the experience? When it comes to These types of Bible Book's go To The Creator for Help.
Oh I just remember something very important Eve an the Serpent um the treachery was completed by one of Satan's Lt. Enoch said it's name gadreel is the evil-angel who in Enoch's words seduced Eve in Eden.
This is all I have too say with this discussion about mastema an Jubilees; until next discussion, Everyone, Goodbye!
Only problem is it still is stolen. It does not belong to them but to Italy.
Only problem is it still is stolen. It does not belong to them but to Italy.
Sorry Bruce I didn't see your post there before, or this forum seems to not post replies in order of time but in sub-posts like facebook does (which makes it hard to follow all the replies/comments).
The mid-Atlantic ridge is too small for Atlantis which was very large. Also the ridge is emerging upwards and outwards not inwards and downwards, whereas Atlantis "sank".
It is not certain that Atlantis is linked with similar names like Aztlan, because the Account says the story went from Atlantis to Egypt to Greece with the names translated into Egyptian and then into Greek. Though it is possible that the name was similar since the Atlas mountains name is of possible non/pre Greek origin. But Aztlan could possibly match Atlantis and possible have been somewhere like Tiahuanaco. Gadeira has some matches in South America.
The many other islands is more likely Pacific Islands rather than Caribbean islands. Though "island" in Egyptian/Biblical can mean either island/isle, coastland, peninsula, continent, Old World, planet.
Hi All,
This is an extraordinary find to say the least an found in Tyre oh sorry Tyre's in The Bible; I meant Anatolia Turkey.
Last year in 2020 I think it was February or March there is a Temple that was uncovered in Anatolia. It was dedicated to the quote god of war. It's a figure of this being was etched in the The Temple Stone.
I think it's name was Ningirsu male this figure may have had another name as well Azazel. This figured appeared to have wing's attached to its body shaped like an butterfly or Moth wing's.
Anatolia is turning in to a regular hot bed of discovery for the Ancient World, in archeology with these deities bodies an heads discovered of these Greek deities.
One question will anyone do any Carbon dating to see how far back these Statues go in Ancient History?
I'm serious about my next question this is not a joke is there an system utilized in archeology or anthropology that could possibly lift Finger Prints from off these Statues?
I would think since they've been buried under Earth for so long perhaps something may have gotten preserved somehow.
That's all I have too share and question at the moment about this exciting discovery in Anatolia, Turkey, so until next discussion Everyone, Goodbye!
(It seems that some places in the Americas are also related to the leaders of Atlantis.) Here is Poseidon: dividing North America into ten kingdoms.
Plato: Of the second pair of twins he called one Ampheres, and the other Evaemon. To the elder of the third pair of twins he gave the name Mneseus, and Autochthon to the one who followed him. Of the fourth pair of twins he called the elder Elasippus (in honor of his grandmother), and the younger Mestor (Meso America). And of the fifth pair he gave to the elder the name of Azaes (Aztecs), and to the younger the name of Diaprepes (Texas).
All these and their descendants for many generations were the inhabitants and rulers of divers islands (Cuba, Bahamas, and Dominican Republic) in the open sea; and also, as has been already said, they held sway in our direction over the country within the Pillars as far as Egypt and Tyrrhenia (Italy).
Just like a politician, it doesn”t matter whether it”s a lie, just get a story out with your name on it. Since most people don’t actually read the story, all they remember is the name. Give it a couple of years, that guy will be running for some office, and it won’t matter if he was wrong.
1000 years from now someone will find my lost canoe with all the ‘artifacts’ still inside it. Will my Swiss Army knife be deemed ‘ritualistic’? Or will the remains of my plastic wrapped nature bar become an ‘offering’? Likewise, will simple grafitti memorializing that someone ‘was here’ like the famous Leroy aquire religious overtones?
Why does everything still have to receive possibly erroneous tags of ritualistic or regligious significance? Isn’t applying these terms to a find just a way to make the find more significant? Today people still like to explore interesting places just to see what’s there. Sometimes they go back to those same places just because and not because its a pilgramidge. They carry with them typical items such as snacks, water, implements…..and they mark their paths with “I was here graffiti. “
Wishing that modern science would refrain from putting such hashtags on things….unless of course there is a 5 x 8” card attached by a frayed hemp rope to the item saying that “this is the official ritual knife used by Otpeomia on visiting this our holy and religious site.”
Just a pet peeve.
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