The Search for a Legendary Land: Does the Truth of Plato’s Atlantis Rest on a Shifting Sea Floor?

The Search for a Legendary Land: Does the Truth of Plato’s Atlantis Rest on a Shifting Sea Floor?

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Plato wrote over two thousand years ago about a prehistoric Atlantean civilization that existed more than nine thousand years before his time, or over eleven thousand years ago. Plato describes a civilization with a Bronze Age level of technology, centered on what was a large “Atlantic island” located somewhere outside the Mediterranean Sea in the Atlantic Ocean.

Plato wrote two works or “dialogues” called the Timaeus and Critias around 360 BCE and they are the only known works that describe the civilization of Atlantis in detail. They describe the travels to Egypt in about 570 BCE of the Athenian statesman Solon (638–558 BCE). While Solon was in Egypt, some senior Egyptian temple priests told him about the empire of Atlantis and its war against the nations of the eastern Mediterranean, including prehistoric Athens. The Mediterranean war occurred 9,000 years before Solon's time. After the war ended, the Atlantic Island sank and there were destructions of prehistoric Athens. Plato based his Atlantis dialogues on Solon's translation of the Egyptian story.

Historical Fact, or a Noble Lie?

In both the Timaeus and Critias, Plato repeatedly describes the Atlantis story as fact, not fiction. However, virtually from the time Plato wrote the dialogues in the 4 th century BCE, many philosophers and scholars have argued that Plato created the Atlantis story as a fiction or “noble lie”. They claim that Plato created a fictitious Atlantis and prehistoric Athens as a metaphor and moral message for a discussion about ideal societies. However, if you take the time to read a translation of the Timaeus and Critias, you will find the degree of detail that Plato uses, particularly to describe the geography of the Atlantic Island and prehistoric Athens, is much more than necessary for a metaphor.

Athanasius Kircher's map of Atlantis, placing it in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. From Mundus Subterraneus 1669, published in Amsterdam. The map is oriented with south at the top.

Athanasius Kircher's map of Atlantis, placing it in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. From Mundus Subterraneus 1669, published in Amsterdam. The map is oriented with south at the top. ( Public Domain )

Given the thousands of books and location theories already written about Atlantis, it surprises me that virtually all the authors pick parts of Plato's geographical descriptions or greatly alter them so that their theories satisfy only a few of the descriptions. Most commonly, the authors argue that Plato was either wrong in his time or distance calculations, that there was not an Atlantic Island that sank, or that Atlantis' location was not in the Atlantic Ocean. I have spent six years researching all of Plato's descriptions in the Timaeus and Critias as being true and precise.

All of Plato's precise descriptions are explained in Plato’s Caribbean Atlantis —including the location and nature of an Atlantic Island in the Atlantic Ocean as well as the Atlantean Empire and prehistoric Athens of over 11,000 years ago.

The Hidden Location of the Legendary Island

he "Atlantic island" in the Caribbean.

The "Atlantic island" in the Caribbean. (Image via author)

By analyzing Plato’s geographical descriptions of the “Atlantic island” , I have concluded that it was located in the eastern Caribbean region. The Atlantic Island was once a large landmass of over one million square kilometers that occupied the eastern half of the Caribbean Tectonic Plate. It was once above sea level but then most of it “sank” and now forms a large part of the Caribbean Sea floor.

Plato’s Atlantean civilization developed more than 11,600 years ago, after what is called the Last Glacial Maximum (LGM), which occurred about 20,000 years ago. The LGM was the time during the current Ice Age when glacial ice sheets over Antarctica and much of North America and Eurasia were at their greatest extent and kilometers thick.

The extent of the Last Glacial Maximum in Eurasia.

The extent of the Last Glacial Maximum in Eurasia. ( Public Domain )

A warm period we now call the Holocene Epoch began after the LGM and marks the melting of massive quantities of glacial ice and a very large rise in the worldwide sea-level. The sea-level rose about sixty meters (196 feet) between 20,000 to 14,000 years ago, and then rose another sixty meters between 14,000 to 8,000 years ago, before it stabilized to about its present level 8,000-6,000 years ago.

If a Caribbean Atlantic Island was once above sea-level over 11,600 years ago, and afterwards was covered by the known sea-level rise from glacial ice melting, it would only be fifty to sixty meters (164 to 196 feet) below the present sea-level. Instead, most of the Caribbean Sea bottom is now thousands of meters below sea-level. The only way the Atlantic Island could “sink” by thousands of meters over a few thousand years is through a series of major subsidences of a large part of the eastern Caribbean Tectonic Plate on which the Caribbean Sea rests. There is no currently accepted geological mechanism for a rapid subsidence of this magnitude.

Comments

Until verifiable artifacts are hauled up from the seafloor Atlantis will remain a myth as far as I'm concerned.

Until verifiable artifacts are retried from the Atlantic seafloor Atlantis in the Atlantic will be a myth as far
I'm concerned

Why is there never any ancient Egyptian sources? Even if Plato was being 100% sincere he is still only a secondary source.

Your theory is on the right track but one must consider the trigger that would set the Caribbean land mass for catastrophic failure. During the melt, trillions of tons of sediments came down the Mississippi Estuary and over time filled the Caribbean and beyond . Once the so-called last straw was in place in the basin, the basin could no longer hold up this extreme weight and a catastrophic collapse of the basin occured. Evidence of this happening are found all over the bottom of the Caribbean. The ancient buildings the Canadians found two thousand feet below the surface by Cuba are evidence that this event did happen.

I would ask the author: Is there anything in Plato's works that conflict with the postulate that Atlantis existed on the Sunda shelf with ~50-20m sea depth and supporting tectonic justification for subsidence?

When then sea level was 120 metres lower 20,000 years ago, there was a large exposed land mass in South-east Asia that has been called Sundaland. From 20,000 to 8,000 years ago, the sea level rose and during that time most of Sundaland was inundated.
Plato states that the Atlantic Island was outside the Mediterranean in the Atlantic Ocean. It is possible that there was a prehistoric civilisation on Sundaland. However, it is not what Plato describes as the Atlantic Island, the centre of the Atlantean Empire.

No. It rests in Antarctica.

-DrS

The landmass of Antarctica has been in its current location and covered by a thick ice cap since at least 15 million years ago. Nothing like what Plato describes could have existed there during human existence on the planet.

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