Triceratops Horn Dated to 33,500 Years

Did Humans Walk the Earth with Dinosaurs? Triceratops Horn Dated to 33,500 Years

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A Triceratops brow horn discovered in Dawson County, Montana, has been controversially dated to around 33,500 years, challenging the view that dinosaurs died out around 65 million years ago.  The finding radically suggests that early humans may have once walked the earth with the fearsome reptiles thousands of years ago.

The Triceratops brow horn was excavated in May 2012 and stored at the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. The Museum, which has since 2005 been in cooperation with the Paleochronology Group, a team of consultants in geology, paleontology, chemistry, engineering, and education, sent a sample of the outer portion of the Triceratops brow horn to Head of the Paleochronology Group Hugh Miller, at his request, in order to carry out Carbon-14 dating. Mr Miller sent the sample to the University of Georgia, Center for Applied Isotope Studies, for this purpose. The sample was divided at the lab into two fractions with the “bulk” or collagen break down products yielding an age of 33,570 ± 120 years and the carbonate fraction of bone bioapatite yielding an age of 41,010 ± 220 years [UGAMS-11752 & 11752a]. Mr Miller told Ancient Origins that it is always desirable to carbon-14 date several fractions to minimize the possibility of errors which Miller requested and that essential concordance was achieved in the 1000's of years as with all bone fractions of ten other dinosaurs.

Triceratops, a name meaning “three-horned face”, is a genus of herbivorous ceratopsid dinosaur that is said to have first appeared during the late Maastrichtian stage of the late Cretaceous period, about 68 million years ago in what is now North America, and became extinct in the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 66 million years ago. However, scientists from the Paleochronology Group, who perform research relating to “anomalies of science”, maintain that dinosaurs did not die out millions of years ago and that there is substantial evidence that they were still alive as recently as 23,000 years ago.

Classical reconstruction of a Triceratops

Classical reconstruction of a Triceratops ( Wikimedia Commons )

Until recently, Carbon-14 dating was never used to test dinosaur bones, as the analysis is only reliable up to 55,000 years. Scientists never considered it worthwhile to run the test since it is generally believed that dinosaurs have been extinct for 65 million years, based on radiometric dating of the volcanic layers above or below fossils, a method which the Paleochronology Group states has “serious problems and gross assumptions must be made”.

"It became clear years ago that paleontologists were not just neglecting to test dinosaur bones for C-14 content but were refusing to. Normally a good scientist will be curious about the ages of important fossil bones,” Mr Miller told Ancient Origins in an email.  

YouTube video explaining results of carbon testing on dinosaur bones

The results of the Triceratops Horn analysis are not unique. According to Mr Miller, numerous C-14 tests have now been carried out on dinosaur bones, and surprisingly, they all returned results dating back in the thousands rather than millions of years.

“I organized the Paleochronology group in 2003 to fill a void with regards fossil wood and dinosaur bones as I was curious as to their age by  C-14 dating.  We thus have used C-14 dating to solve the mystery why soft tissue and dinosaur depictions exist world-wide. Our model predicted dinosaur bones would have significant C-14 and indeed they did in the range of 22,000 to 39,000 years BP,” Mr Miller added.

Results of C-14 tests on dinosaur bones

Results of C-14 tests on dinosaur bones provided by the Paleochronology Group .

Numerous independent researchers have long argued that there is evidence man and dinosaur once walked the Earth together, such as hundreds of ancient artworks and artifacts that appear to depict dinosaurs, long before modern science had pieced together dinosaur fossils and conducted analyses to produce detailed reconstructions of their appearance.

Top left: Relief carving at Angkor Wat, Cambodia (1186 AD). Top Right: Textile from Nazca, Peru (700 AD). Bottom: Tapestry in the Chateau de Blois (1500 AD)

Top left: Relief carving at Angkor Wat, Cambodia (1186 AD). Top Right: Textile from Nazca, Peru (700 AD). Bottom: Tapestry in the Chateau de Blois (1500 AD)

However, even more intriguing is the discovery of soft tissue in dinosaur fossils. In the March 2005 issue of Science , paleontologist Mary Schweitzer and her team announced the discovery of soft tissue inside a 68-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex leg bone from the Hell Creek Formation in Montana, a controversial finding considering scientists had thought soft tissue proteins degrade in less than 1 million years in the best of conditions. After recovery, the tissue was rehydrated by the science team and testing revealed evidence of intact structures such as blood vessels, bone matrix, and connective tissue. 


Tsurugi's picture

Thank you. That is what I've been trying to say, only you said it much more succinctly.

That is a spot on anaysis of the situation!  We have one group of scientists (group A,)   formulating a theory based research and field work, employing the scientific method to test that theory out by experimentation in the lab, and requesting that others do independant experimentation, to prove or disprove their findings.  Yet, they are hindered or blocked from publishing, and even get fired and rediculed for doing their jobs.  While on the other hand, we have a second group (B) of scientists, from many different fields of expertise, who refuse to do any experiments to test their theories.  They refuse any efforts to be engaged in scientific discovery, even when tempted by the carrot of discovering somthing NEW about an existing topic.  The scientists of group B (which call group A fraudulent and ill-educated) are desperately clinging to what is, esencially, a religious dogma.  The group B continues to refuse to conduct ANY scientific experiments to validate their assumptions, choosing instead to jump directly to the last step: declaring their beliefs to be facts (without any proof to back up the claim.)  Very curious indeed.  Why NOT do the tests, group B?  Is it because you’re afraid that you won't like the answer?  Are you afraid of being proven wrong?  Whatever happened to the joy of new discovery? Isn't that what science is supposed to be about, discovering new things and understanding them?  Scientists used to get prizes and congrats for finding new evidence that changes our perspective and expands our understanding of our world.  Now, they get fired.  I’m with group A; we should actually use the scientific method to uncover the truth, no matter what it is.  We can't just say, ‘I’m right because I’m right!” and bury our heads in the sand. TEST EVERYTHING, using every method at hand, even if it seems silly.  If you are shocked by the results… GOOD!  That means you’ve learned something new.

God is the source of all wisdom.

Roberto Peron's picture

At some point we are going to have to admit that much of our history as we have been told is WRONG!  And we are going to have to admit that our dating is in error.  And at some point we are going to have to follow the evidence wherever it leads and no matter whose pet theory, tenure, or funding it disrupts.  That is, IF we wish to pursue REAL science.  I remember when the soft tissue was found back in 2012 and I was astounded to say the least.  I did not think it possible but it was there and very real.  Yet, it should not have been there at all.  What this article talks about does NOT prove evolution is all wrong, although I tend to think some of the dates are a bit too fantastic, just as it doesn't prove SOME dinosaurs may have went extinct 66 mya.  Indeed, some may have continued to exist as late as 23,000 years ago.  There have been several "extinction events" as near as we can tell but NONE of them wiped out everything otherwise you, me, and alll these species we share this planet with today wouldn't be here today.  I really do not think one mass extinction event wiped out every dinosaur!  In fact, there might even be some still around today! Rather, than write a novel here you can read my further comments on this subject at:

Damn, where can I get that stuff that's been passed around? I want to smoke sum too =)

is this a joke?


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