Sumerian creation myth

The origins of human beings according to ancient Sumerian texts

Sumer, or the ‘land of civilized kings’, flourished in Mesopotamia, now modern-day Iraq, around 4500 BC. Sumerians created an advanced civilization with its own system of elaborate language and writing, architecture and arts, astronomy and mathematics. Their religious system was a complex one comprised of hundreds of gods. According to the ancient texts, each Sumerian city was guarded by its own god; and while humans and gods used to live together, the humans were servants to the gods.

The Sumerian creation myth can be found on a tablet in Nippur, an ancient Mesopotamian city founded in approximately 5000 BC.

The creation of Earth (Enuma Elish) according to the Sumerian tablets begins like this:

When in the height heaven was not named,
And the earth beneath did not yet bear a name,
And the primeval Apsu, who begat them,
And chaos, Tiamut, the mother of them both
Their waters were mingled together,
And no field was formed, no marsh was to be seen;
When of the gods none had been called into being,
And none bore a name, and no destinies were ordained;
Then were created the gods in the midst of heaven,
Lahmu and Lahamu were called into being...

Sumerian mythology claims that, in the beginning, human-like gods ruled over Earth. When they came to the Earth, there was much work to be done and these gods toiled the soil, digging to make it habitable and mining its minerals.

The texts mention that at some point the gods mutinied against their labour.

When the gods like men
Bore the work and suffered the toll
The toil of the gods was great,
The work was heavy, the distress was much.

Anu, the god of gods, agreed that their labour was too great. His son Enki, or Ea, proposed to create man to bear the labour, and so, with the help of his half-sister Ninki, he did. A god was put to death, and his body and blood was mixed with clay. From that material the first human being was created, in likeness to the gods.

You have slaughtered a god together
With his personality
I have removed your heavy work
I have imposed your toil on man.

In the clay, god and man
Shall be bound,
To a unity brought together;
So that to the end of days
The Flesh and the Soul
Which in a god have ripened –
That soul in a blood-kinship be bound.

This first man was created in Eden, a Sumerian word which means ‘flat terrain’. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, Eden is mentioned as the garden of the gods and is located somewhere in Mesopotamia between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

Sumerian tablet depicting Enki in the creation myth. (

Initially human beings were unable to reproduce on their own, but were later modified with the help of Enki and Ninki. Thus, Adapa was created as a fully functional and independent human being. This ‘modification’ was done without the approval of Enki’s brother, Enlil, and a conflict between the gods began. Enlil became the adversary of man, and the Sumerian tablet mentions that men served gods and went through much hardship and suffering.

Adapa, with the help of Enki, ascended to Anu where he failed to answer a question about ‘the bread and water of life’. Opinions vary on the similarities between this creation story and the biblical story of Adam and Eve in Eden.

Featured image: Sumerian chaos monster and sun god. (Wikipedia)

Note: Ancient Sumerian translations were taken from William Bramley’s book, The Gods of Eden.

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By John Black


Interesting that the plural is used in the Genesis account: "See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil". (3:22)

yes it is verrry interesting

Maybe this is one reason for the later creation of the idea that Jesus and the god of the Bible co-existed from the beginning of time--to find a way of explaining the plural reference in the old texts? Or maybe it's a reference to the angels that the Bible describes.

This is not intended to cause offense to any particular religious believes that anyone may have, it is merely an observation and my personal opinion.

To understand the sumerian texts you have to look at it from the perspective that the gods referred to as Anu, Enki, Ninki and Enlil are no more than high ranking members of a HIGHLY ADVANCED, SPECIES of MORTAL BEINGS with tremendous life spans that transversed the expanses of the universe to mine a planet (earth) of an element (gold) imperative to the survival of their own species. We know very little of the planet from which this species resides or of its social and political structure but what we do know is that the four "gods" mentioned previously were the highest ranked officers (viewed as superior or gods) of this mission to earth and would have taken a substantial amount of their people with them to carry out the required work including metal analysts, tera formers, biologists, engineers, miners, security personnel, builders, medics and many other professions vital to the success of the mission these people of lower rank would have been viewed as workers, helpers, healers, warriors (Angels).

Upon arrival the planets surface was tera fomed so was it possible to (a.) Survive the "alien" environment (b.) So that the areas of high gold density were easily accessible and (c.) To provide a diverse, self contained ecosystem of animals, plants, insects and microbial life to surply a food source and raw materials for an indefinite amount of time (The Creation Story) which may or may not have taken 6 days to complete.

As the Sumerian story says Enki and Ninki created Us (humans) at the request of Anu (the big cheese) under the supervision of Enlil (second in command) by taking the dna from their own species(made in gods image) and combining it with "clay" which i believe to be the literal translation when building blocks or genetic base material (apes) would be more accurate. As we were only a worker species many the sections of the "gods" DNA were rendered inactive or locked before being inserted into the genetic base material to lower intelligence to keep the population (slaves) productive, obedient controllable, and "god fearing" to avoid decent or rebellion. reproduction and life span was also kept in check by making the new species entirely male to keep the amount of new mine workers at a manageable number using a system of replacing new for old when death, injury or they grew to old to be productive, with a potentially enormous amount of other attributes locked as they were not required for the "job" Man(Adam) was created for but all being said and done Man was quite content and blissfully ignorant that there might be anything out side the mines.

Enki and Ninki grew very fond of their creations and were disgusted at the treatment of their "children" by Anu and Enilil so they devised a plan to create a new model of worker in secret that were not as strong or robust as Man but Mining Gold is not what Enki and Ninki had planned for this new model, this model was smarter, it hated being told what to do, it asked lots of questions, questions about everything happening around them, the conditions they were made to work in. questions about where they came from, whats outside the mines Enki and Ninki had given them the gift of Curiosity and Knowlage (like the snake and the apple from the tree of knowledge) this infuriated Anu and Enlil so they called this model Woman(Eve) Not only was this model smarter it was compatible with the previous model and together were able to make more models(children) that were both smart and strong inquisitive and robus.

This brought about a war between the "gods" Enki and Ninki were banished and stripped of there ranks(Satan and the Snake), Enlil declared all humans his enemys and they were punished with extreme hardships and increased shifts in the mines and were eventually abandoned by the "gods".

So long story short according to the sumerian accounts the person reffered to as ALMIGHTY GOD in the bible is really the "gods" Anu and Enlil that enslaved Mankind in ignorance, slavery and fear of a species of very mortal being on the verge of becoming extinct pretending to be the creators of the universe when in truth they're just a bunch of people that would almost certainly be dead today if it wasn't for us because they were too lazy to do it themselves. And that makes Enki(Satan banished to earth) and Ninki (symbolised by two snakes) the creators of our species and the greatest contributers to mankind's development, and stood up against their own people at the cost of loosing their real family, never being able to return to their own people and friends or their real home ever again because they cared for us like real parents should and tried to free us from the Slavery and Oppression of Gold Miners Pretending to be the divine creators of the Universe and everything in it.

The bible has the same story about an oppressor denying people the right to seek Knowlage and question the truth of the claims being made by the very person telling them not ask questions and do as your told. Then there's confining them to the garden of eden forever which is no different to being confined in the mines to me just that the blissful ignorance of the slave is depicted by pretty flowers and green grass instead of a lack of intelligence causing you to accept your prison.

In both someone comes to help them then the hostage taker gets angry and punishes everyone and abandons them.

The only difference is in the sumerian account it's the liberators that become the heros and expose a slave driving fraud.

In the the bible the liberator is the bad guy because apparently he's just trying to be a trouble maker and upset the status quo by asking them to question why it is that someone with nothing to hide and with 100% pure intentions has taken them hostage stripped them naked and forbid them to leave, or seek any form of knowledge or ask questions.

"Ask and ye shall receive. Knock and it shall be opened unto you." - The Bible

Your absolutely right. The bible had it backwards, we weren't free in the "garden of eden", we were enslaved by Enlil in modern day Iraq(garden of eden). He didn't like the way the humans lived, they made too much noise and they over populated so then he saw the wickedness of man and he wanted him blotted out and has been conspiring us to pit ourselves against each other ever since. That's why the tree of life was considered "sacred knowledge" because it reveals the truth of how duality functions through corruption of purity that's why we weren't suppose to eat it. By eating the fruit, we realized we were enslaved by fear and entrapment. By eating the fruit we inherited the earth. In truth, fear and evil are unnecessary. If you were "god", why make a "garden of eden" for your creation you love so much if they can't eat fruit from all the trees? The Sumerian "god" Enki or the "snake", fought for our survival as a species and set us free. It's because of Enki we inherited the earth. Both were extraterrestrial Sumerian "gods", not real "gods". Not one "god" but many. Our ancestors mythologized the extraterrestrial Sumerian "gods" like they were masters of the universe when they were just flesh and blood ancient astronauts. They weren't "god" and the "devil", they were both extraterrestrials and they were both fallible. So, should we take command from extraterrestrials who created us if we're capable of making our own decisions? What I'm trying to say is that when one species creates another and the created species has it's own mind and is alive, is that specie free from slavery from it's creator? The answer is, yes. The thing is, we were a lie, we were never meant to amount to anything. That alone should make a person strive to want to better themselves and not by fear and manipulation.

Before there was monotheism, there was a belief of many "gods" or polytheism which only contradicts all major religions. The only reason for a belief of one "god" was because a single denomination would control the fate of an entire country and everyone was taxed to support it. The problem was monopoly. These established churches were often opposed to reforms, because they wanted to hang onto their privileges. Governments also preferred to have just one church because a single church is easier to oversee. Authorities were severe with anyone who threatened church monopolies. A man might have his tongue cut off for preaching without a license. A citizen might lose his ears for listening to unapproved preaching. In the worst cases, rulers burned people to death for teaching children the Ten Commandments or the Lord's Prayer. And it all started in 325 A.D. by the Council of Nicea, Constantine decided to gather all the churches to decide which beliefs and which books were deemed orthodox and which ones were heretical for the religious movement because that's all it was. A movement, not the truth. They decided on one denomination for the movement. Besides, who, out of all the people on earth get to decide everyone's fate and which books are deemed orthodox, I don't think anyone has that right. Before, there were many different beliefs on how to get to a "heaven" or to your salvation, so the idea that you could only get to "heaven" through the son originated then because that was when they decided that Jesus was like "god" and that he should be worshiped like one. Which only means that the belief was man-made and not the truth. The problem wasn't having different beliefs, the problem was deciding on one belief and punishing everyone for not joining.

It was the political establishment that sought to historize the Jesus figure for social control. In 325 A.D. in Rome, Emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, it was during this meeting that the politically motivated Christian doctrines were established and thus began a long history of religious bloodshed and spiritual fraud. For over the next one thousand years the Vatican maintained a political strangle hold of all of Europe, leading to such joyous periods as the dark ages and along with enlightening events such as the Crusades and the Inquisition. Christianity along with all other related theologies is a historical fraud. These religions now serve to detach the species from the natural world and likewise each other. They support blind submission to authority. They reduce human responsibility to the affect that "god" controls everything and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of the divine pursuit and most critically it empowers the political establishment who have been using the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is one of the most powerful devices ever created and it serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish.

Religion is mind control. It was originally designed to conquer us by the extraterrestrials. Where science flies men to the moon, religion flies men into buildings. What I have learned is that you can use the religious addiction to overcome another addiction like drugs, crime, depression and abuse. By substituting the addiction you can overcome another but if your not suffering from any type of addiction then religion is not needed because it's like chemotherapy for cancer. You wouldn't submit to chemotherapy treatments if your not suffering from cancer would you? Religion alone is dangerous because it's a duality belief system. A duality belief system is a system of superiority that makes a separation between the unified creation which is us. It separates us in a universe that unites us. The truth is, the power to overcome any addiction was inside you the whole time, the only reason why you have to substitute an addiction for another is because some addictions are too strong for our weak minds. When your involved in addiction, your lost and need help finding yourself. Even after you use religion to free yourself from drugs, it will be hard to free yourself from religion just as any other addiction.

When you look around yourself and look at the world, you'll realize something isn't right. This is when the era of reason happens, when we start the fight for our true minds. We have to regain our true minds because we shouldn't need a supernatural explanation of why we do the moral or right thing. If you need a supernatural explanation of why you do the moral or right thing then your're not moral, your're faithful and your morality is at the mercy of all sorts of corruption ranging from schizophrenia, paranoia, nightmares, corrupt, power-hungry religious leaders, political institutions, peer pressure, the love for power and the media. The contradictory beliefs or religious beliefs that were handed down by these other-worldly beings asks for your faith and if you blindly conform then your at the mercy of it's cycle of corruption. You'll be lost from finding yourself and thinking on your own just like a drug addiction. They substitute their mind set for ours. Blindly conforming to any agenda is dangerous, even from our own government. Faith is doing what your told regardless of what's right(ie. Abraham's willingness to kill his son). Morality is doing what's right regardless of what your told. So when you use religious ideology to try to find the truth, the truth your looking for, is not of your own. A person who doesn't do his own thinking is a traitor to himself and his fellowmen. If your taking a view that there is value in the moral systems produced by religions then that concept is in opposition to humanism. It is the morality of religions, and especially the confidence that such systems have implicit value, that have led, and continue to lead, to some of the greatest harms and injustices in our societies. I know the "law" or the "church" tells you to do what your told and sometimes the "law" or the "church" is just only a piece of paper but somewhere in between there's life and we have to accept one another regardless of what we're told. I know that the "law" or "church" tells us what we're supposed to do but instead we need to do what we think is right. And that's called regaining our true minds. Don't let anyone or anything make you feel guilty for living life the way you want to. Don't be afraid of being yourself. The toughest day in a man's life is when he starts thinking on his own. A man who doesn't do his own thinking is a traitor to himself and to his fellowmen. When you look around you, you'll realize something is not right with the world. This is when the era of reason happens, when we start the fight for our true minds. The other-worldly beings do this to manipulate the way in which we apply our energy. Our energy is food for them.

Enki taught us about unity and that we are all equal components of the universe and Enlil taught us duality that we have to answer to a "single master" in all of creation and has been spreading it throughout every belief. Duality. We can't even think for ourselves because beliefs are designed to divide, control and conquer. Suppressing every protest we have with it's contradiction. If we protest, it suppresses our protest. If we decide to act independently, it demands that we don't do so. It was originally a disagreement between two extraterrestrial Sumerian brothers not God and the Devil. Believe those who are seeking the truth, doubt those who find it. This is why the "Archons" or the accessories to the divine pursuit are so desperate in their efforts to represent the opposite of unity, to create an illusory system of superiority that supposedly there's one master in all creation and make a separation from the unified creation. To lock us as servants inside an eternal illusion. This is why Unity is the true path of creative expression, this acknowledges the TRUTH that we are all equal components of creation. Duality is the only "hell" that exists. These other-worldly beings are an essential part of the universe, they must be taken as what they really are, awesome and monstrous. They are the means by which the universe tests us. We are spheres of energetic probes created by the universe and it's because we are possessors of energy that has an awareness that we are the means by which the universe becomes aware of itself.

Every belief points to the "heavens", that our "souls"(energy) goes to a "heaven" but what they meant was the universe as energy that flows through the cosmos, not some mythological place in the clouds. Our bodies have an energy or "soul" that has an awareness, this life is a test, to test our awareness. That's why we constantly struggle and wonder why are we in so much corruption. We are spheres of energetic probes created by the universe and it's because we are possessors of energy that has an awareness that we are the means by which the universe becomes aware of itself. If you're aware you exist, then you do. So what makes you, you? Who are we? Our brains? Our brains are a body part like our fingernails or our hearts. Why is that the part that's makes us? It doesn't because we have a sort of voice that's in our heads, the part of us that thinks, that feels, that is aware that we exist at all. If you're aware you exist, then you do. That's why when die we're still here, as energy. That's our awareness. What's true in our minds and in our awareness, is true, whether some people know it or not. Our body's energy has an awareness that's susceptible to beliefs because the human species genuinely wants to fit in, it wants to feel accepted, that's all we've ever wanted was to feel accepted and the malevolent extraterrestrials that landed and genetically engineered our bodies in antiquity, know that and use that against our awareness. Our bodies are just what they are, "bodies" or capsules and they're only temporary. Our energy is what we truly look like. It is important to know that this reality is a corrupted illusion because upon death, you will be approached by energy beings that will test your awareness for duality and will attempt to contained you by using fear and deception. If they don't sense acceptance, they'll play your life before you to expose your addiction to duality and the way it's affected the people around you, it's to show your separation to the universe. Any belief in duality, fear, ego or addiction, will be used against you. To keep you repeating cycles of lives as a slave to duality by your own choice of representation. These are "the bardos" or "judgements" in the afterlife, an attempt to expose your duality, to place you into a new realm(life) of illusion for further exploitation. This life is to test your awareness that we are all equal components of creation and that there is no "single master" in all creation, there is only creation as one, united as one with everyone accepted by unity, if you believe otherwise then you'll be placed back into this world to feed the system of duality. If you believe in unity, you'll be free to roam the cosmos as energy. You'll be able to go and experience anything that you want to when you were in your capsule because energy is everywhere, its in everything.

You see, when humans are infants, their "souls" are spheres of luminous balls of energy covered from the top to the bottom with a glowing coat, something like a plastic cover that is adjusted tightly over like a cocoon of energy. That glowing coat is our "soul's" awareness. That glowing coat of awareness is what the "Archons" consume, and when humans reach adulthood, all that is left of that glowing coat of awareness is a narrow fringe that went from the ground to the top of the toes. That fringe permitted mankind to continue living, but only barely. Man is the only species that has the glowing coat of awareness outside that luminous cocoon. Therefore, man becomes an easy prey for an awareness of a different order, the order of duality, the heavy awareness of our predator. So that we become so addicted to duality, we no longer prefer to act in unity. I know that even though you may have never suffered hunger, you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predators(extraterrestrials) who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be discovered and food is going to be denied. By means of discipline, we can push the "Archons" away long enough to allow our glowing coat of awareness to grow beyond the level of the toes. Once it goes beyond the level of the toes, it grows back to its natural size. But by feeding duality, the glowing coat that protects your energy will be eaten away forcing you to unknowingly judge people for being different and sometimes physically or emotionally hurt people. Belief systems of duality have taken many innocent lives through out the history of mankind. Unity is the true path of creative expression.

There is a science that explains what makes us act the way we do. There is a war constantly within ourselves. Every one of us human beings has two minds. One is totally ours, it is like a faint voice that always brings us order, directness, purpose, The other mind is a foreign installation. It brings us conflict, self-assertion, doubts, hopelessness, it's ourselves as the me-me center of the world, it hides itself in the guise of hope and calling it faith. Faith is doing what you're told, regardless of what's right (e.g. Abraham's willingness to kill son). Morality is doing what's right regardless of what you're told. The only way a person can win the war within themselves and find peace within themselves, is to resolve the conflict between these two minds by intending it. In other words, by intending it, you always accomplish what you set out to do. The only way to bring peace through out the world is if everyone found peace inside themselves. What we must set out to do is to face infinity without flinching. Infinity is everything that surrounds us, the spirit, the dark sea of awareness. It is something that exists out there and rules our lives. The steps that guide you and me in our everyday lives are guided by infinity. The circumstances that seem to be ruled by "chance" are in essence ruled by the "active side of infinity" or intent. What brought you and me together was the intent of infinity. It is impossible to determine what this intent of infinity is, yet it is there, as real as you and I are. We are not naturally petty and contradictory. Our pettiness and contradictions are the result of a transcendental conflict that afflicts every one of us, but of which only sorcerers are painfully and hopelessly aware of, the conflict of our two minds. One is our true mind, the product of all our life's experiences, the one that rarely speaks because it has been defeated and reduced to obscurity. The other, the mind we use daily for everything we do, is a foreign installation.

If you question every institution, you will realize that there's something far more sinister behind the veil, an agenda for power, not love. When you question an institution, just ask yourself, is this "service to others" or "service to self". Is this STO or STS? Many institutions have been controlling us for its own particular political objective and many of our lives are being lost. Many people think that terrorism means when an external country invades ours but it doesn't necessarily mean external, terrorism can come from our own government to gain power over people, when "we the people" supposedly own this nation. History can confirm the terror that has been controlling us from different institutions including religious institutions. 9/11, Oklahoma City, The World Trade Center, The Crusades, The Inquisition and the Dark Ages, many more of these are just examples we didn't question. We are enslaved through corruption, fear or terror. Many innocent lives are being lost and all for control, power and national security, to keep the people enslaved, to keep them brainwashed, to keep trained and to keep them from thinking too much. All I know is that first we've got to get mad. We have to tell these man-made institutions that we are human beings and our lives have value. I see humans in this world but I don't see humanity. The day we stop caring about each other will be the day we lose all humanity. We have to accept each others differences and unite. Everyday be considerate to one another, love each other and embrace each others differences. Love = Light = Knowledge. Love is light and to have light, is to be enlightened and to be enlightened means to have knowledge. The only defense against situations like this is with knowledge. The only defense against the world's greatest dangers is to inform yourself with knowledge.

The truth is, you don't need an outside voice to have feelings that there's something bigger than yourself, it's inside you, what you call "god" is inside you and was always inside you the whole time, it's in all of us and I just hate to see people hating and killing each other over their own interpretation of what they're not smart enough to understand. I know the "law" or the "church" tries to tell you, "to do what your told" and sometimes the "law" or the "church" is only a piece of paper but somewhere in between there's life and we have to do what we think is right and that's to regain our true minds. It's not about a question of faith or loyalty but of individuality. Don't be a traitor to yourself. Many religions are taught to practice self denial and are told that their own will is totally irrelevant. They are afraid of even expressing their own individuality in many cases. Christians and others are taught that they have virtually no power to do anything except pray, worship and do "good deeds." Religious followers believe that they are yielding their will over to a benevolent cosmic individual who has single-handedly created the whole universe and has their best interests at heart when in fact they are handing over their will and freedoms to hidden groups of religious elites for the elites own personal gains. It appears that religion must constantly degrade and humiliate its followers in order to glorify and elevate its god. Unfortunately many people appear eager to give away their power to authority and seem to have a need and even a desire to be ruled and disciplined by it. Many people who have turned to religion are lost because they have avoided looking for themselves or what they genuinely represent. They feel guilty of being themselves, when they should embrace their own individuality. Don't ever let anyone or anything make you feel guilty for living life the way you want to. It frees up a lot of creativity and exploration, you'll regret it if you don't. You'll later on find yourself and find your place in this world and you'll ask yourself, "what have I been doing with my life"?

Anyone who interpret the numerous cultural Myths of Creation literary without being able to connect the right telling to the right cosmological meaning is bound to make interpretative mistakes.

1) Creation Stories deals with real cosmological facts.
2) Creation Stories are connected directly to the creation of the Milky Way; its center and the Milky Way contours.
3) The entire Milky Way band resembles the Cosmic Serpent. (The serpent in the "Garden of Eden")
4) The southern hemisphere Milky Way contour resembles the mythical Great Goddess (and Eve)
5) The northern hemisphere Milky Way contour resembles the mythical Great God (and Adam)
6) The Milky Way contours are mythological described as The Milky Way River, which is running OVER the Earth up in the Sky and not ON the Earth. (the Flood Myth)

There is nothing good or bad in the creation and subsequently there is no divine Flood-revenge either. The creation just is what is and the assumed duality described in these myths just deals with and emphasizes the importance for humans to “following the creation”, instead of going against its natural forces and qualities.

Regarding the "ancient aliens"-business, these are also confused and psychologically inserted into a technical modern time instead of being interpreted as "natural and non personified forces of creation".

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Well said.

I agree there was no "divine flood revenge", but I would say it is fairly clear there was a flood. It just wasn't divine revenge.

Hello Tsurugi,

Naturally there have been many disastrous floods many locations on the Earth throughhout eons.

But the biblical flood has never happend. The MIlky Way River is the biblical/mythical flood which is running OVER the Erth up in the night Sky - and not ON the Earh and all over the Earth.

This interpretative mistake takes only place because humans have largely forgotten that myths of creation deals with real cosmological and astronomical facts described in natural symbols.


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Why do you think the biblical flood is connected to creation myths?

Hello Tsurugi,

You asked:
"Why do you think the biblical flood is connected to creation myths"?

Because, as I wrote above, the contours of the Milky Way is mythically named and mentioned as "the great river in the Sky".

Thus, this great river runs/floats in the (night) Sky and it can be observed "running all OVER the Earth" up in the Sky.

This ancient myth is confused be historic interpreters and modern scholars and interpreted as "a river coming from the Sky (from the God in the Sky), running down on, and all over the surface of the Earth". (Google Milky Way Mythology)

The two hemisphere Milky Way contours are also named by ancient people as "huge boats in the sky" because the Milky Way shows up a crescent figure on each hemispheres and when one mark the celestial poles on each hemispheres, these two crescent figures seemingly revolves around the celestial poles, "sailing around these poles in the Sky". (Google heavenly ship++barque)

The ancient known part of the Universe was at the most connected to what could be observed be the physical eyes and this included the contours of the Milky Way. For instants the Egyptian creator Goddess Hathor, was directly connected to the Milky Way and the Egyptian story of creation, the Ogdoad, speaks specifically of the elementary times before and under the creation of the Milky Way, where all elements came together and created at huge light, Ra, in the Sky from where everything were created. (Google Hathor and Ra)

And, since Hathor and Ra have a very close relationship in the story of creation, this story deals specifically with the Milky Way on which crescent figure Ra is sailing on the night Sky. In this logical way, the connection of the Mythical Flood, the heavenly river, and the Story of Creation is fully explained.

In the Egyptian telling, it is RA and Hathor who sails in the heavenly ship and in the biblical telling, it is Noa and his wife and children. (Google mythical ship)


Tsurugi's picture

Heya Ivar,

Thanks for the detailed answer! All very interesting stuff.

I don't dispute any of it either, the mythos connections you make seem accurate to me.

Still...the presence of known mythological references in the flood story does not mean there was no flood...? It seems like you are assuming that mythological symbolism indicates a purely symbolic narrative or story. But couldn't mythological symbolism be injected into relevant parts of a story about real events? Especially if said event was monstrous, godlike....such as the deluge.

In my opinion, the Flood was a real event. We know that at the end of the Last Glacial Maximum, there were meltwater pulses of vast size taking place amidst a world in a state of geological upheaval. Immense tidal waves and glacial waves repeatedly inundated landmasses, and global sea levels rose some 300-400 ft., permanently flooding around twenty five million square miles of costal lowlands.

Humans witnessed and (some)lived through this period. Perhaps the flood stories they told survived to eventually be written down, albeit changed over the years and "mythologicized"....

Hello Tsurugi and thanks for your reply.

Og course there have been numerous factual disasters of floodings all over the world, just as today.

But think about it: The bible state "water completely covering the Earth and after 40 days, the water sank" so Noa coould land the ark on Ararat mountain.

Water covering even the mountains? Where should this amonunt of water come from? And to where did all this water disppear afterwards?

I think this logical questions bins the standing Flood Myths interpretation and qualify the mytho-comsological perception of the Milky Way River running OVER the Earth up in the Sky and not ON the Earth.


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"Water covering even the mountains? Where should this amonunt of water come from? And to where did all this water disppear afterwards?"

Good questions. I don't know the answers, but there are some possibilities.
There are huge reservoirs of water underground, all over the world. Some are ocean-sized. How would these have gotten to the surface, I have no idea...but the Bible does say "the waters came from above and below".
It is also possible that the highest mountains weren't submerged, and it just took a long time(40 days etc) for the ark to drift close to any remaining dry land. By the way, I don't think it says the water was all gone in 40 days....that's just how long it took to find land.

It is difficult to believe or understand how there could have been enough water to totally submerge every bit of dry land on the entire planet. But remember, there are ancient terraced mountain slopes in the Andes that go all the way up to glacial ice and continue even beneath the ice. And there are marine sedimentary deposits in the highest places of the Himalayas. :)


There have probably been severall floodings and of different nature in history, as I am sure you also would believe. My Point with this statement is that a more local flooding would posibly manage a greater change of the water level as compared to a global one. For example, it is clear that the mediteranian sea have been isolated and partly dried out with a much lower coast line, and then at some point, the Atlantic sea broke in. It is supposed that this happened much earlier than to appear in any myth, but proven how?

to be accounted for if the myths deals with once apon a time global flooding. (Which it doesn´t since it deals with the mythology of the Milky Way River in the Sky, "running" above the Earth.

Google "Milky Way (mythology" and "List of names for the Milky Way"

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Again, I do not dispute your idea that it deals with Milky Way mythology. I dispute your apparent assertion that because it deals with Milky Way mythology, it cannot be a story of real events.

It seems to me that a massive global flood event is exactly the kind of thing that would be interpreted through such mythology.

You have to deal with all the Flood Myth contents before taking any firm stands.
"Noa building a ship which can contain a pair of all animals"?
This is impossible.
But if you interpret "all the animals" in the zodiak and the ship depicting the crescent MIlky Way contours, you get the right mytho-cosmological interpretation.
Remember, this telling deals with the Story of Creation and the cosmological and cosmogonical facts.

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"You have to deal with all the Flood Myth contents before taking any firm stands."
Agreed. I have no "firm" stance on this topic; it could be pure symbolic mythos, it could be an account of some type of real event, it could be both simultaneously, etc.

Interesting possibility there with the correlation to the zodiak. If that is the case, what does it mean when it talks about taking them "in pairs, male and female"? Seems an odd thing to say if it is talking about the zodiak symbols.

I agree also that it would be physically impossible to cram a breeding pair of every species of animal into a ship built to the specifications given in the text, which is 300x50x30 cubits.
That's not small, but it is definitely too small to hold two of every animal, plus all the food necessary to keep said animals alive, plus Noah and his extended family and all the food and supplies for them. As you said, it is thus necessary to decide how to interpret that part of the text.

One idea that has always fascinated me is the possibility that this is hinting at a genetic, rather than a physical, storage. It would be possible to store DNA samples of every species in a ship that size...and taking them that way means you don't have to worry about storing all the food for them. Hell, you don't have to feed them. You don't have to worry about taking care of them at all. Most of the spatial and logistical problems are solved with this possibility.

Of course, it begs the question of how the hell Noah got DNA samples of all those animals. But the same question occurs if the animals were would Noah have managed to find a male and female of every species, then coax them onto his ship?

Fortunately, there is a supernatural being in this story. Getting the animals(or their DNA samples) and bringing them to the Ark is his department, as the text makes clear.

As you said, we must deal with all the flood myth contents when trying to come up with a reasoned explanation, and there are a lot of interesting little details when it comes to the animals.

For instance, Noah is told there will be seven pairs of some types of animals and of all birds, and one pair of everything else. Why seven pairs? Why all birds? Very interesting.

In the description of the actual loading of the animals, it says they came aboard "in pairs, male and female, two by two."
I think this is highly interesting. The first two descriptive phrases, "in pairs" and "male and female", establish what each "set" of animals consists of: two specimens, one of each gender. Yet the last phrase, "two by two" suggests a "set" of four.
Of course, if what they were really loading on board were not physical animals but rather the DNA samples of animals, then "two by two" makes sense; because each DNA strand is a double helix.

Anyway, all of that is pure speculation on my part. Just giving an example of how the impossibility of getting all those animals into the Ark doesn't preclude an interpretation of the story as a recounting of real events. :)

I think people take all this too literally. To me, it has always seemed like the story of one family, and their livestock; Not every species of animal. Think about it for a second; If there was a deluge on the way, and someone were to build an ark; Wouldn't it to be to secure the safety of their family? And as they wouldn't be able to take all their animals on board, it would make sense for them to take the best breeding pair of each animal they kept.

Bob Gibbons,
In any circumstances the Flood Myth deals with "our family", namely how our ancestors percieved the symbols and myths of Creation.
The very nocturnal contours of the Milky Way resembles a mythical "river in the Sky" which runs ALL OVER the Earth and not On the Earth.
Google " myth" and "Milky Way river"

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I remember that Plato said the Greeks knew of the "deluge", a flood of global proportions with devastating consequences, but that the Egyptian keepers of knowledge said there had been many such floods. Like six or seven of them, I think.

You are right that in most circumstances, events which are localized result in much more drastic shifts on that local area than events which are global. Global events are "diluted"(hah I am punny) by having their effects spread out over the entire planet.

The thing is, going by the many accounts across so many cultures, the Deluge consisted of many drastic and devastating local events which all happened in the same short timespan, resulting in a drastic and devastating global phenomenon.

Two things always come to mind when discussing this. Ice-dam breaking on glacial lakes, and a fairly new ice-age melt effect known as a "glacial wave".
You no doubt already know about both of these, but in short, a glacial lake is glacier meltwater that is contained within the glacier...basically a vertical hole in the glacial ice that has filled with meltwater. At some point, the ice becomes thin enough on one side that it can no longer support the weight of the water, so it cracks and lets all the meltwater in the lake out at once. Most glacial lakes were absolutely enormous, containing hundreds of thousands of cubic miles of water. When their ice dams gave way, all that water poured out all at once and headed for the nearest beach, A terrifying thought.
"Glacial waves" are even worse. They basically consist of a single line or wave of meltwater that spreads out across the ice, heading downhill. Seeing as how the Laurentide ice sheet was upwards of four kilometers thick, that meant that by the time glacial waves reached the ground they were hundreds of miles long, hundreds of feet tall and accellerated to hundreds of miles an hour.

It doesnt take much imagination to see how such events taking place during a short time span in many places around the world could lead to a cataclysm of truly global proportions.

One can simply take the biblical measurements of the 'great flood' with a cubit being equal to about a foot and a half. With those measurements you'll soon see that the biblical flood as told was only about 23 feet high - certainly not enough to cover all of the hills and mountain tops.

Hi Chad,
You are absolutely right. And what about the space for all animals and supplies for 40 days?
No, of course the biblical contents here shall be connected to the specific creation myth i.e. to the telling of the cosmological conditions of the Earth in our Solar System and its rhythmic motions, thus giving cosmological information’s of the day and night in the seasonal changes.
- Our Solar System is an integrated orbiting and formational part of the Milky Way galaxy. The nocturnal observable contours of the Milky Way is in many cultures named as "the Heavenly River" which of course "runs" OVER the Earth and not On the Earth.
The contours of the Milky Way shows a vaulted and crescent figure which looks like a ship seemingly sailing around the Earth celestial poles together with all the animal named star constellations in the zodiac eclipse.
The modern Flood Myth perception is a huge misinterpretation, which derives from the modern perception of "myths just being non sensical myths" where in fact, the numerous cultural myths of creation contains real cosmological knowledge when the right telling is connected to the right celestial motions and objects.
Unfortunately this commentary box doesn´t allow to post links, but do a googling of "native science+mythical ship" for more informations and illustrations.

I don't believe the great flood is talked about like it didn't happen. Consider the book of Enoch. There had to have been real facts in Enoch's account of "the wheel within a wheel" event when he is taught by "angels" every it wouldn't be hard to believe that the anunaki race as it once created man, had also triggered a world flood, possibly a tilt on axis, to purge god like men from the existence of the planet. Most myths have a real story behind them. And the real story becomes the myth

I don't believe the great flood is talked about like it didn't happen. Consider the book of Enoch. There had to have been real facts in Enoch's account of "the wheel within a wheel" event when he is taught by "angels" every it wouldn't be hard to believe that the anunaki race as it once created man, had also triggered a world flood, possibly a tilt on axis, to purge god like men from the existence of the planet. Most myths have a real story behind them. And the real story becomes the myth

7. The Floods in Mesopotamia

(874.6) 78:7.1 The river dwellers were accustomed to rivers overflowing their banks at certain seasons; these periodic floods were annual events in their lives. But new perils threatened the valley of Mesopotamia as a result of progressive geologic changes to the north.

(874.7) 78:7.2 For thousands of years after the submergence of the first Eden the mountains about the eastern coast of the Mediterranean and those to the northwest and northeast of Mesopotamia continued to rise. This elevation of the highlands was greatly accelerated about 5000 B.C., and this, together with greatly increased snowfall on the northern mountains, caused unprecedented floods each spring throughout the Euphrates valley. These spring floods grew increasingly worse so that eventually the inhabitants of the river regions were driven to the eastern highlands. For almost a thousand years scores of cities were practically deserted because of these extensive deluges.

(874.8) 78:7.3 Almost five thousand years later, as the Hebrew priests in Babylonian captivity sought to trace the Jewish people back to Adam, they found great difficulty in piecing the story together; and it occurred to one of them to abandon the effort, to let the whole world drown in its wickedness at the time of 'Noah’s flood', and thus to be in a better position to trace Abraham right back to one of the three surviving sons of Noah.

(875.1) 78:7.4 The traditions of a time when water covered the whole of the earth’s surface are universal. Many races harbor the story of a world-wide flood some time during past ages. The Biblical story of Noah, the ark, and the flood is an invention of the Hebrew priesthood during the Babylonian captivity. There has never been a universal flood since life was established on earth. The only time the surface of the earth was completely covered by water was during those Archeozoic ages before the land had begun to appear.

The biblical flood account was simply the creation of the Mediterranean Sea by way of an earthquake creating the Strait of Gibraltar. The mountain that once held back the North Atlantic crumbled and flooded out the Mediterranean basin.

Read The Urantia Book folks, and learn things no other book on earth can teach you.

Wow you know alot. I'm VERY new to learning the "truth" as it were about how we came to be. Would like to read more from you an others 



Wow..... very accurately said. We hold the same beliefs. Wish it was more mainstream.

Victor - Your post is one of the most beautiful articulations of individuality I have read in a long time.
Thank you for the time you took in writing it.
~ Edward

I must say, you put it down in ink extraordinarily well. This should be offered for reading by everyone. "Mandatory" reading would be a wrench in the gears for freewill. But the information is so well presented I will suggest to anyone that can read, to read every word with 100% comprehension. Just maybe, some will think independently for the first time or start again. This is the message to be understood. Thank you for putting it down so well organized. Be the light.

When the power of love overcomes the love for power, the world will know peace.

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Or we could try learning history instead of repeating it.

Also, I am somewhat dubious of the idea of "peace". It does not seem to exist in Nature.

This is the most articulated version of this theory I've heard - Thanks ;)

I wonder what you think of the information in the first 8 sessions of this guy talking about Genesis:

try to listen without judging to get beyond the cheesy music, and the speaker's arrogant way of talking ; )

I stopped when mr. Missler in timestamp 7:07 assumed and declared the sole creator to be a man. He possible couldn´t have studied comparative mythology where all prime creator deities comes in pairs of male and female.

This of course also goes for the Jewish god Yahweh, which female consort was Ashera before the Jewish religion became monotheistic. Read more here -

No, Judaism was monotheistic before Ashera was intruduced under the influence of the Canaanites after the return from slavery in Egypt. Ashera worship was a heresy, not a part of the Jewish faith. It was something the lower classes fell into due to their lack of education.

Thank you for your intelligence and courage to post the truth. I have recently written a book called #TRUTHBETOLD: A modern day common sense pamphlet...but can't afford to publish it.

The content you are all posting here is thought provoking and controversial. Honestly very few publishers are likely to accept your material. But don't let that deter you. I suggest self publishing your content on Amazon. It's free. Check out

You sir have an awesome mind. I only regret I can not have known you in real life.I think I could listen to you for quite some time. You had a long post but it was totally worth time it took to read it. You some how put into words the very thoughts and conclusions I myself had come to over the course of several years. I think something to marvel at how when a mind is free and seeks the truth without bias we all end up at the same place in how we think. Thank you for your post I am new here but I hope you are not because I look forward to hearing more from you. Thanks for the post may light and love always be with you,for it seems to me you are indeed an enlightened human being.

Great comment! You wrote it out in an easy to read and understand way.

Also, look at humans today--we are STILL be distracted and kept too busy to think for ourselves and seek the truth.

You are Luciferian in your beliefs Garry Rayner as are the members and agents of the Illuminati. Lies and deception are their means to destroy belief in the One True God Yehovah. And the only "aliens" are the Fallen Angels and Demons, which you as a Luciferian would be aware of. We do not need your lies, We need only the truth !!!!


The problem with all these fanciful theories about physical aliens coming to earth to mine a physical material is that any such civilization could much more easily capture a gold-rich asteroid and bring it to their planet.

The problem with the hypothesizers is that they are materialists who do not understand esoteric metaphors and the concept of extra-dimensional astral beings. Matter cannot travel faster than light, but astral entities can travel at the speed of thought.

you would be surprised how many people would agree with you!!

so ive always felt the word god or gods as understood wrong. i always felt as if god or gods were just someone higher as like master or boss etc. i want to understand much more about this. i want to understand more about the real origins of mankind or at the least something different then me being a product of my environment. it took until i was 20 or so to free myself of believing in "god" as a catholic. the word "faith" was always scaring me. ive come to realize the word "faith" as being one of the powerfull words. im in search of the truth and have been thinking about this and trying to unscramble my thoughts for as long as i can remember.

Nice take on duality and the Archons. So much to unlearn and so much knowledge to bravely shine forth. Nice comments all. Dennis

My friend, if you are able to, please get back to me. For you are not the only one who has these beliefs.

Surely confirmation of the divine trinity.

the trinity dates back to before the Jewish religion. its found in the myths of Babylon and other areas of Sumeria mainly centering around the deity Ishtar also known as Innana. so if anything its a confirmation of jewish culture and beliefs absorbing traditions from other peoples.


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