Sumerian creation myth

The origins of human beings according to ancient Sumerian texts

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Sumer, or the ‘land of civilized kings’, flourished in Mesopotamia, now modern-day Iraq, around 4500 BC. Sumerians created an advanced civilization with its own system of elaborate language and writing, architecture and arts, astronomy and mathematics. Their religious system was a complex one comprised of hundreds of gods. According to the ancient texts, each Sumerian city was guarded by its own god; and while humans and gods used to live together, the humans were servants to the gods.

The Sumerian creation myth can be found on a tablet in Nippur, an ancient Mesopotamian city founded in approximately 5000 BC.

The creation of Earth (Enuma Elish) according to the Sumerian tablets begins like this:

When in the height heaven was not named,
And the earth beneath did not yet bear a name,
And the primeval Apsu, who begat them,
And chaos, Tiamut, the mother of them both
Their waters were mingled together,
And no field was formed, no marsh was to be seen;
When of the gods none had been called into being,
And none bore a name, and no destinies were ordained;
Then were created the gods in the midst of heaven,
Lahmu and Lahamu were called into being...

Sumerian mythology claims that, in the beginning, human-like gods ruled over Earth. When they came to the Earth, there was much work to be done and these gods toiled the soil, digging to make it habitable and mining its minerals.

The texts mention that at some point the gods mutinied against their labour.

When the gods like men
Bore the work and suffered the toll
The toil of the gods was great,
The work was heavy, the distress was much.

Anu, the god of gods, agreed that their labour was too great. His son Enki, or Ea, proposed to create man to bear the labour, and so, with the help of his half-sister Ninki, he did. A god was put to death, and his body and blood was mixed with clay. From that material the first human being was created, in likeness to the gods.

You have slaughtered a god together
With his personality
I have removed your heavy work
I have imposed your toil on man.

In the clay, god and man
Shall be bound,
To a unity brought together;
So that to the end of days
The Flesh and the Soul
Which in a god have ripened –
That soul in a blood-kinship be bound.

This first man was created in Eden, a Sumerian word which means ‘flat terrain’. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, Eden is mentioned as the garden of the gods and is located somewhere in Mesopotamia between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

Sumerian tablet depicting Enki in the creation myth. (world-myth.com)

Initially human beings were unable to reproduce on their own, but were later modified with the help of Enki and Ninki. Thus, Adapa was created as a fully functional and independent human being. This ‘modification’ was done without the approval of Enki’s brother, Enlil, and a conflict between the gods began. Enlil became the adversary of man, and the Sumerian tablet mentions that men served gods and went through much hardship and suffering.

Adapa, with the help of Enki, ascended to Anu where he failed to answer a question about ‘the bread and water of life’. Opinions vary on the similarities between this creation story and the biblical story of Adam and Eve in Eden.

Featured image: Sumerian chaos monster and sun god. (Wikipedia)

Note: Ancient Sumerian translations were taken from William Bramley’s book, The Gods of Eden.

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By John Black

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Interesting that the plural is used in the Genesis account: "See, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil". (3:22)

yes it is verrry interesting

Maybe this is one reason for the later creation of the idea that Jesus and the god of the Bible co-existed from the beginning of time--to find a way of explaining the plural reference in the old texts? Or maybe it's a reference to the angels that the Bible describes.

This is not intended to cause offense to any particular religious believes that anyone may have, it is merely an observation and my personal opinion.

To understand the sumerian texts you have to look at it from the perspective that the gods referred to as Anu, Enki, Ninki and Enlil are no more than high ranking members of a HIGHLY ADVANCED, SPECIES of MORTAL BEINGS with tremendous life spans that transversed the expanses of the universe to mine a planet (earth) of an element (gold) imperative to the survival of their own species. We know very little of the planet from which this species resides or of its social and political structure but what we do know is that the four "gods" mentioned previously were the highest ranked officers (viewed as superior or gods) of this mission to earth and would have taken a substantial amount of their people with them to carry out the required work including metal analysts, tera formers, biologists, engineers, miners, security personnel, builders, medics and many other professions vital to the success of the mission these people of lower rank would have been viewed as workers, helpers, healers, warriors (Angels).

Upon arrival the planets surface was tera fomed so was it possible to (a.) Survive the "alien" environment (b.) So that the areas of high gold density were easily accessible and (c.) To provide a diverse, self contained ecosystem of animals, plants, insects and microbial life to surply a food source and raw materials for an indefinite amount of time (The Creation Story) which may or may not have taken 6 days to complete.

As the Sumerian story says Enki and Ninki created Us (humans) at the request of Anu (the big cheese) under the supervision of Enlil (second in command) by taking the dna from their own species(made in gods image) and combining it with "clay" which i believe to be the literal translation when building blocks or genetic base material (apes) would be more accurate. As we were only a worker species many the sections of the "gods" DNA were rendered inactive or locked before being inserted into the genetic base material to lower intelligence to keep the population (slaves) productive, obedient controllable, and "god fearing" to avoid decent or rebellion. reproduction and life span was also kept in check by making the new species entirely male to keep the amount of new mine workers at a manageable number using a system of replacing new for old when death, injury or they grew to old to be productive, with a potentially enormous amount of other attributes locked as they were not required for the "job" Man(Adam) was created for but all being said and done Man was quite content and blissfully ignorant that there might be anything out side the mines.

Enki and Ninki grew very fond of their creations and were disgusted at the treatment of their "children" by Anu and Enilil so they devised a plan to create a new model of worker in secret that were not as strong or robust as Man but Mining Gold is not what Enki and Ninki had planned for this new model, this model was smarter, it hated being told what to do, it asked lots of questions, questions about everything happening around them, the conditions they were made to work in. questions about where they came from, whats outside the mines Enki and Ninki had given them the gift of Curiosity and Knowlage (like the snake and the apple from the tree of knowledge) this infuriated Anu and Enlil so they called this model Woman(Eve) Not only was this model smarter it was compatible with the previous model and together were able to make more models(children) that were both smart and strong inquisitive and robus.

This brought about a war between the "gods" Enki and Ninki were banished and stripped of there ranks(Satan and the Snake), Enlil declared all humans his enemys and they were punished with extreme hardships and increased shifts in the mines and were eventually abandoned by the "gods".

So long story short according to the sumerian accounts the person reffered to as ALMIGHTY GOD in the bible is really the "gods" Anu and Enlil that enslaved Mankind in ignorance, slavery and fear of a species of very mortal being on the verge of becoming extinct pretending to be the creators of the universe when in truth they're just a bunch of people that would almost certainly be dead today if it wasn't for us because they were too lazy to do it themselves. And that makes Enki(Satan banished to earth) and Ninki (symbolised by two snakes) the creators of our species and the greatest contributers to mankind's development, and stood up against their own people at the cost of loosing their real family, never being able to return to their own people and friends or their real home ever again because they cared for us like real parents should and tried to free us from the Slavery and Oppression of Gold Miners Pretending to be the divine creators of the Universe and everything in it.

The bible has the same story about an oppressor denying people the right to seek Knowlage and question the truth of the claims being made by the very person telling them not ask questions and do as your told. Then there's confining them to the garden of eden forever which is no different to being confined in the mines to me just that the blissful ignorance of the slave is depicted by pretty flowers and green grass instead of a lack of intelligence causing you to accept your prison.

In both someone comes to help them then the hostage taker gets angry and punishes everyone and abandons them.

The only difference is in the sumerian account it's the liberators that become the heros and expose a slave driving fraud.

In the the bible the liberator is the bad guy because apparently he's just trying to be a trouble maker and upset the status quo by asking them to question why it is that someone with nothing to hide and with 100% pure intentions has taken them hostage stripped them naked and forbid them to leave, or seek any form of knowledge or ask questions.

"Ask and ye shall receive. Knock and it shall be opened unto you." - The Bible

Your absolutely right. The bible had it backwards, we weren't free in the "garden of eden", we were enslaved by Enlil in modern day Iraq(garden of eden). He didn't like the way the humans lived, they made too much noise and they over populated so then he saw the wickedness of man and he wanted him blotted out and has been conspiring us to pit ourselves against each other ever since. That's why the tree of life was considered "sacred knowledge" because it reveals the truth of how duality functions through corruption of purity that's why we weren't suppose to eat it. By eating the fruit, we realized we were enslaved by fear and entrapment. By eating the fruit we inherited the earth. In truth, fear and evil are unnecessary. If you were "god", why make a "garden of eden" for your creation you love so much if they can't eat fruit from all the trees? The Sumerian "god" Enki or the "snake", fought for our survival as a species and set us free. It's because of Enki we inherited the earth. Both were extraterrestrial Sumerian "gods", not real "gods". Not one "god" but many. Our ancestors mythologized the extraterrestrial Sumerian "gods" like they were masters of the universe when they were just flesh and blood ancient astronauts. They weren't "god" and the "devil", they were both extraterrestrials and they were both fallible. So, should we take command from extraterrestrials who created us if we're capable of making our own decisions? What I'm trying to say is that when one species creates another and the created species has it's own mind and is alive, is that specie free from slavery from it's creator? The answer is, yes. The thing is, we were a lie, we were never meant to amount to anything. That alone should make a person strive to want to better themselves and not by fear and manipulation.

Before there was monotheism, there was a belief of many "gods" or polytheism which only contradicts all major religions. The only reason for a belief of one "god" was because a single denomination would control the fate of an entire country and everyone was taxed to support it. The problem was monopoly. These established churches were often opposed to reforms, because they wanted to hang onto their privileges. Governments also preferred to have just one church because a single church is easier to oversee. Authorities were severe with anyone who threatened church monopolies. A man might have his tongue cut off for preaching without a license. A citizen might lose his ears for listening to unapproved preaching. In the worst cases, rulers burned people to death for teaching children the Ten Commandments or the Lord's Prayer. And it all started in 325 A.D. by the Council of Nicea, Constantine decided to gather all the churches to decide which beliefs and which books were deemed orthodox and which ones were heretical for the religious movement because that's all it was. A movement, not the truth. They decided on one denomination for the movement. Besides, who, out of all the people on earth get to decide everyone's fate and which books are deemed orthodox, I don't think anyone has that right. Before, there were many different beliefs on how to get to a "heaven" or to your salvation, so the idea that you could only get to "heaven" through the son originated then because that was when they decided that Jesus was like "god" and that he should be worshiped like one. Which only means that the belief was man-made and not the truth. The problem wasn't having different beliefs, the problem was deciding on one belief and punishing everyone for not joining.

It was the political establishment that sought to historize the Jesus figure for social control. In 325 A.D. in Rome, Emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, it was during this meeting that the politically motivated Christian doctrines were established and thus began a long history of religious bloodshed and spiritual fraud. For over the next one thousand years the Vatican maintained a political strangle hold of all of Europe, leading to such joyous periods as the dark ages and along with enlightening events such as the Crusades and the Inquisition. Christianity along with all other related theologies is a historical fraud. These religions now serve to detach the species from the natural world and likewise each other. They support blind submission to authority. They reduce human responsibility to the affect that "god" controls everything and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of the divine pursuit and most critically it empowers the political establishment who have been using the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is one of the most powerful devices ever created and it serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish.

Religion is mind control. It was originally designed to conquer us by the extraterrestrials. Where science flies men to the moon, religion flies men into buildings. What I have learned is that you can use the religious addiction to overcome another addiction like drugs, crime, depression and abuse. By substituting the addiction you can overcome another but if your not suffering from any type of addiction then religion is not needed because it's like chemotherapy for cancer. You wouldn't submit to chemotherapy treatments if your not suffering from cancer would you? Religion alone is dangerous because it's a duality belief system. A duality belief system is a system of superiority that makes a separation between the unified creation which is us. It separates us in a universe that unites us. The truth is, the power to overcome any addiction was inside you the whole time, the only reason why you have to substitute an addiction for another is because some addictions are too strong for our weak minds. When your involved in addiction, your lost and need help finding yourself. Even after you use religion to free yourself from drugs, it will be hard to free yourself from religion just as any other addiction.

When you look around yourself and look at the world, you'll realize something isn't right. This is when the era of reason happens, when we start the fight for our true minds. We have to regain our true minds because we shouldn't need a supernatural explanation of why we do the moral or right thing. If you need a supernatural explanation of why you do the moral or right thing then your're not moral, your're faithful and your morality is at the mercy of all sorts of corruption ranging from schizophrenia, paranoia, nightmares, corrupt, power-hungry religious leaders, political institutions, peer pressure, the love for power and the media. The contradictory beliefs or religious beliefs that were handed down by these other-worldly beings asks for your faith and if you blindly conform then your at the mercy of it's cycle of corruption. You'll be lost from finding yourself and thinking on your own just like a drug addiction. They substitute their mind set for ours. Blindly conforming to any agenda is dangerous, even from our own government. Faith is doing what your told regardless of what's right(ie. Abraham's willingness to kill his son). Morality is doing what's right regardless of what your told. So when you use religious ideology to try to find the truth, the truth your looking for, is not of your own. A person who doesn't do his own thinking is a traitor to himself and his fellowmen. If your taking a view that there is value in the moral systems produced by religions then that concept is in opposition to humanism. It is the morality of religions, and especially the confidence that such systems have implicit value, that have led, and continue to lead, to some of the greatest harms and injustices in our societies. I know the "law" or the "church" tells you to do what your told and sometimes the "law" or the "church" is just only a piece of paper but somewhere in between there's life and we have to accept one another regardless of what we're told. I know that the "law" or "church" tells us what we're supposed to do but instead we need to do what we think is right. And that's called regaining our true minds. Don't let anyone or anything make you feel guilty for living life the way you want to. Don't be afraid of being yourself. The toughest day in a man's life is when he starts thinking on his own. A man who doesn't do his own thinking is a traitor to himself and to his fellowmen. When you look around you, you'll realize something is not right with the world. This is when the era of reason happens, when we start the fight for our true minds. The other-worldly beings do this to manipulate the way in which we apply our energy. Our energy is food for them.

Enki taught us about unity and that we are all equal components of the universe and Enlil taught us duality that we have to answer to a "single master" in all of creation and has been spreading it throughout every belief. Duality. We can't even think for ourselves because beliefs are designed to divide, control and conquer. Suppressing every protest we have with it's contradiction. If we protest, it suppresses our protest. If we decide to act independently, it demands that we don't do so. It was originally a disagreement between two extraterrestrial Sumerian brothers not God and the Devil. Believe those who are seeking the truth, doubt those who find it. This is why the "Archons" or the accessories to the divine pursuit are so desperate in their efforts to represent the opposite of unity, to create an illusory system of superiority that supposedly there's one master in all creation and make a separation from the unified creation. To lock us as servants inside an eternal illusion. This is why Unity is the true path of creative expression, this acknowledges the TRUTH that we are all equal components of creation. Duality is the only "hell" that exists. These other-worldly beings are an essential part of the universe, they must be taken as what they really are, awesome and monstrous. They are the means by which the universe tests us. We are spheres of energetic probes created by the universe and it's because we are possessors of energy that has an awareness that we are the means by which the universe becomes aware of itself.

Every belief points to the "heavens", that our "souls"(energy) goes to a "heaven" but what they meant was the universe as energy that flows through the cosmos, not some mythological place in the clouds. Our bodies have an energy or "soul" that has an awareness, this life is a test, to test our awareness. That's why we constantly struggle and wonder why are we in so much corruption. We are spheres of energetic probes created by the universe and it's because we are possessors of energy that has an awareness that we are the means by which the universe becomes aware of itself. If you're aware you exist, then you do. So what makes you, you? Who are we? Our brains? Our brains are a body part like our fingernails or our hearts. Why is that the part that's makes us? It doesn't because we have a sort of voice that's in our heads, the part of us that thinks, that feels, that is aware that we exist at all. If you're aware you exist, then you do. That's why when die we're still here, as energy. That's our awareness. What's true in our minds and in our awareness, is true, whether some people know it or not. Our body's energy has an awareness that's susceptible to beliefs because the human species genuinely wants to fit in, it wants to feel accepted, that's all we've ever wanted was to feel accepted and the malevolent extraterrestrials that landed and genetically engineered our bodies in antiquity, know that and use that against our awareness. Our bodies are just what they are, "bodies" or capsules and they're only temporary. Our energy is what we truly look like. It is important to know that this reality is a corrupted illusion because upon death, you will be approached by energy beings that will test your awareness for duality and will attempt to contained you by using fear and deception. If they don't sense acceptance, they'll play your life before you to expose your addiction to duality and the way it's affected the people around you, it's to show your separation to the universe. Any belief in duality, fear, ego or addiction, will be used against you. To keep you repeating cycles of lives as a slave to duality by your own choice of representation. These are "the bardos" or "judgements" in the afterlife, an attempt to expose your duality, to place you into a new realm(life) of illusion for further exploitation. This life is to test your awareness that we are all equal components of creation and that there is no "single master" in all creation, there is only creation as one, united as one with everyone accepted by unity, if you believe otherwise then you'll be placed back into this world to feed the system of duality. If you believe in unity, you'll be free to roam the cosmos as energy. You'll be able to go and experience anything that you want to when you were in your capsule because energy is everywhere, its in everything.

You see, when humans are infants, their "souls" are spheres of luminous balls of energy covered from the top to the bottom with a glowing coat, something like a plastic cover that is adjusted tightly over like a cocoon of energy. That glowing coat is our "soul's" awareness. That glowing coat of awareness is what the "Archons" consume, and when humans reach adulthood, all that is left of that glowing coat of awareness is a narrow fringe that went from the ground to the top of the toes. That fringe permitted mankind to continue living, but only barely. Man is the only species that has the glowing coat of awareness outside that luminous cocoon. Therefore, man becomes an easy prey for an awareness of a different order, the order of duality, the heavy awareness of our predator. So that we become so addicted to duality, we no longer prefer to act in unity. I know that even though you may have never suffered hunger, you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predators(extraterrestrials) who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be discovered and food is going to be denied. By means of discipline, we can push the "Archons" away long enough to allow our glowing coat of awareness to grow beyond the level of the toes. Once it goes beyond the level of the toes, it grows back to its natural size. But by feeding duality, the glowing coat that protects your energy will be eaten away forcing you to unknowingly judge people for being different and sometimes physically or emotionally hurt people. Belief systems of duality have taken many innocent lives through out the history of mankind. Unity is the true path of creative expression.

There is a science that explains what makes us act the way we do. There is a war constantly within ourselves. Every one of us human beings has two minds. One is totally ours, it is like a faint voice that always brings us order, directness, purpose, The other mind is a foreign installation. It brings us conflict, self-assertion, doubts, hopelessness, it's ourselves as the me-me center of the world, it hides itself in the guise of hope and calling it faith. Faith is doing what you're told, regardless of what's right (e.g. Abraham's willingness to kill son). Morality is doing what's right regardless of what you're told. The only way a person can win the war within themselves and find peace within themselves, is to resolve the conflict between these two minds by intending it. In other words, by intending it, you always accomplish what you set out to do. The only way to bring peace through out the world is if everyone found peace inside themselves. What we must set out to do is to face infinity without flinching. Infinity is everything that surrounds us, the spirit, the dark sea of awareness. It is something that exists out there and rules our lives. The steps that guide you and me in our everyday lives are guided by infinity. The circumstances that seem to be ruled by "chance" are in essence ruled by the "active side of infinity" or intent. What brought you and me together was the intent of infinity. It is impossible to determine what this intent of infinity is, yet it is there, as real as you and I are. We are not naturally petty and contradictory. Our pettiness and contradictions are the result of a transcendental conflict that afflicts every one of us, but of which only sorcerers are painfully and hopelessly aware of, the conflict of our two minds. One is our true mind, the product of all our life's experiences, the one that rarely speaks because it has been defeated and reduced to obscurity. The other, the mind we use daily for everything we do, is a foreign installation.

If you question every institution, you will realize that there's something far more sinister behind the veil, an agenda for power, not love. When you question an institution, just ask yourself, is this "service to others" or "service to self". Is this STO or STS? Many institutions have been controlling us for its own particular political objective and many of our lives are being lost. Many people think that terrorism means when an external country invades ours but it doesn't necessarily mean external, terrorism can come from our own government to gain power over people, when "we the people" supposedly own this nation. History can confirm the terror that has been controlling us from different institutions including religious institutions. 9/11, Oklahoma City, The World Trade Center, The Crusades, The Inquisition and the Dark Ages, many more of these are just examples we didn't question. We are enslaved through corruption, fear or terror. Many innocent lives are being lost and all for control, power and national security, to keep the people enslaved, to keep them brainwashed, to keep trained and to keep them from thinking too much. All I know is that first we've got to get mad. We have to tell these man-made institutions that we are human beings and our lives have value. I see humans in this world but I don't see humanity. The day we stop caring about each other will be the day we lose all humanity. We have to accept each others differences and unite. Everyday be considerate to one another, love each other and embrace each others differences. Love = Light = Knowledge. Love is light and to have light, is to be enlightened and to be enlightened means to have knowledge. The only defense against situations like this is with knowledge. The only defense against the world's greatest dangers is to inform yourself with knowledge.

The truth is, you don't need an outside voice to have feelings that there's something bigger than yourself, it's inside you, what you call "god" is inside you and was always inside you the whole time, it's in all of us and I just hate to see people hating and killing each other over their own interpretation of what they're not smart enough to understand. I know the "law" or the "church" tries to tell you, "to do what your told" and sometimes the "law" or the "church" is only a piece of paper but somewhere in between there's life and we have to do what we think is right and that's to regain our true minds. It's not about a question of faith or loyalty but of individuality. Don't be a traitor to yourself. Many religions are taught to practice self denial and are told that their own will is totally irrelevant. They are afraid of even expressing their own individuality in many cases. Christians and others are taught that they have virtually no power to do anything except pray, worship and do "good deeds." Religious followers believe that they are yielding their will over to a benevolent cosmic individual who has single-handedly created the whole universe and has their best interests at heart when in fact they are handing over their will and freedoms to hidden groups of religious elites for the elites own personal gains. It appears that religion must constantly degrade and humiliate its followers in order to glorify and elevate its god. Unfortunately many people appear eager to give away their power to authority and seem to have a need and even a desire to be ruled and disciplined by it. Many people who have turned to religion are lost because they have avoided looking for themselves or what they genuinely represent. They feel guilty of being themselves, when they should embrace their own individuality. Don't ever let anyone or anything make you feel guilty for living life the way you want to. It frees up a lot of creativity and exploration, you'll regret it if you don't. You'll later on find yourself and find your place in this world and you'll ask yourself, "what have I been doing with my life"?

When the power of love overcomes the love for power, the world will know peace.

Surely confirmation of the divine trinity.

the trinity dates back to before the Jewish religion. its found in the myths of Babylon and other areas of Sumeria mainly centering around the deity Ishtar also known as Innana. so if anything its a confirmation of jewish culture and beliefs absorbing traditions from other peoples.

The only way to correctly understand the Bible is to not only read it but to understand that it doesn't stand alone. It is not a revelation. It is a compilation of earlier texts and enormous imagination.

The reason for the use of the plural in that part of the text has nothing to do with 'Jesus and God' existing together or any reference to angels (I'm answering the other people below). It has everything to do with the fact that Genesis is NOT AN ORIGINAL TEXT. It was purloined into Judaism centuries after the Babylonian culture existed. It perfectly fit into pre-Jewish culture which was POLYTHEISTIC.

Yep, I agree, though I don't rule out a more subtle reading (especially the heavenly court idea, echoes of which can be found in other parts of the Hebrew Bible). But it still makes me wonder why, despite the extensive revising and editing through the centuries to get to its current form, nearly always pushing a strongly monotheistic agenda, it says "us". I somehow doubt all the scribes and priests just didn't notice the glaring pantheonist reference.

The Bible says "us" because there are 3 seperate beings in the Godhead, God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son, and the Holy Ghost. They are not one entity, they are one in purpose. They are 3 seperate beings. The Jews clearly believed in both Elohim and Jehovah as God the Father and God the Son. God the Father was the architect of the earth, and God the Son was the builder. Everything in the Bible clearly points to seperate Gods. It was not until the Nicene creed of the 3rd century that the so called "definition" of God combined them all into one. This was the greatest step in apostasy. The true gospel has been restored to the earth in these latter days through Joseph Smith the Prophet, with the first principle being that God the Father and Jesus the Son are two seperate beings as he saw them in vision. The Bible vindicates true doctrine revealed through Joseph Smith over and over again.

The true source of our origins can be explained from written accounts of the Sumerian, Babylonian and Arkkadian civilizations. The story of a "god" and a "devil" was originally a disagreement between 2 extraterrestrial Sumerian "gods", Enlil and Enki, about the fate of mankind, their creation. It took place in the garden of eden(modern day Iraq). The stories the bible has, have been predated in the Enuma Elish, the Sumerian Epic of Creation. In the fourth millennium B.C.E. 4000 years before Christ walked the earth. "Genesis", "Noah's ark" to name a few. Both stories existed in Sumer 6000 years before the Bible was ever written. "Genesis" came from the Sumerian Epic of Creation. Noah's Ark came from the Sumerian deluge. The extraterrestial "god" has its basis, its origins in Sumerian history. The Sumerians wrote actual accounts down and they didn't have any philosophical beliefs about the purpose of man. Our religious ancestors mythologized the Sumerian "gods" like they were masters of the universe, when they're just flesh and blood ancient astronauts. With ancient advanced technology coming out of the many ancient books including the "bible". A lot of people say the bible is very contradictory, well that's why. Our ancestors misinterpreted advanced technology. Its re-arguing the truth versus with what they want us to believe. Ancient Astronaut Theory and mainstream science have already came to the conclusion that life on earth came from the stars.

Darwin's theory of evolution was right up until the point when we were hominids but there's a missing link. The missing link was that we were genetically engineered by ancient astronauts. We evolved until we were hominids like Darwin's evolution theory suggests and then extraterrestials landed and genetically engineered us with that of their DNA to make us smarter and more civilized and after many attempts and floods, gave us knowledge and taught us many things but only taught some their secrets and then factions aroused about the fate of the humans and then there was a war. The "war of angels". One side who were our creators and were fighting for our survival as a species and the others who were also involved with our creation but wanted us enslaved then wiped out after they were finished with us because we over populated, made too much noise and they didn't like how we lived. "Then the "lord" saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The "lord" was sorry that he made man on the earth and he was grieved in his heart. The "Lord" said, I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds in the sky; for I am sorry I made them." The line in the bible where it says the "gods" of "heaven" came down and mated with the daughters of men, those were extraterrestials. There are stories of "angels" flying in machines in the bible(Ezekiel). How can we explain that? It was misinterpreted technology from our ancestors. They didn't have the mental technological capacity to comprehend what they were witnessing.

The bible had it backwards, we weren't free in the "garden of eden", we were enslaved by Enlil in modern day Iraq(garden of eden). After he saw the wickedness of man, he wanted him wiped out and has been inspiring to have us pit ourselves against each other ever since. The tree of life was considered "secret knowledge" because it reveals the truth of how duality functions through corruption of purity that's why we weren't suppose to eat it. By eating the fruit, we realized we were enslaved by fear and entrapment. By eating the fruit we inherited the earth. In truth, fear and evil are unnecessary. If you were "god", why make a "garden of eden" for your creation you love so much if they can't eat fruit from all the trees? The Sumerian "god" Enki or the "snake", fought for our survival as a species and set us free. It's because of Enki we inherited the earth. Both were extraterrestial Sumerian "gods", not real "gods". Not one "god" but many. The problem was monopoly. Before there was monotheism, there was a belief of many "gods" or polytheism which only contradicts all major religions. The only reason for a belief of one "god" was because a single denomination would control the fate of an entire country and everyone was taxed to support it. The problem was monopoly. These established churches were often opposed to reforms, because they wanted to hang onto their privileges. Governments also preferred to have just one church because a single church is easier to oversee. Authorities were severe with anyone who threatened church monopolies. A man might have his tongue cut off for preaching without a license. A citizen might lose his ears for listening to unapproved preaching. In the worst cases, rulers burned people to death for teaching children the Ten Commandments or the Lord's Prayer. And it was all lead by the Council of Nicea, Constantine decided to gather all the churches to decide which beliefs and which books were deemed orthodox and which ones were heretical for the religious movement because that's all it was. A movement, not the truth. They decided on one denomination for the movement. Besides, who, out of all the people on earth get to decide everyone's fate and which books are deemed orthodox, I don't think anyone has that right. Before, there were many different beliefs on how to get to a "heaven" or to your salvation, so the idea that you could only get to "heaven" through the son originated then because that was when they decided that Jesus was like "god" and that he should be worshiped like one. Which only means that the belief was man-made and not the truth. The problem wasn't having different beliefs, the problem was deciding on one belief and punishing everyone for not joining.

The bible is only a piece of a bigger collection of books called the pseudepigrapha or the Apocrypha, which are books that were banned from being in the bible during the Council of Nicea because they held true evidence of extra-terrestial human origins and because they didn't hold any spiritual significance for the religious movement. That's all it was, a movement, not the truth. You see, people claim that with religious ideaology, you can find the truth inside yourself but with Ancient Astronaut Theory and mainstream science you can find the truth outside yourselves. The pseudepigrapha or the Apocrypha held dangerous knowledge. These books have written accounts of these "visitors" or "angels" called the "watchers" having sex with humans. The books also have accounts of flying machines that the "angels" used. People couldn't handle the truth like today so they created a book that had a belief system that if you do something wrong a mythological, omnipresent, divine, merciless god will punish you and in a sense guide people with fear to civilization and give them hope and salvation. Its called salvationism. They had the right idea, just the wrong "god" or "gods."

The bible is an astrotheological literary hybrid. The Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the sun, in which they put a man called Christ in the place of the sun, and pay him the adoration originally payed to the sun. We don't wanna be unkind but we wanna be factual. We don't wanna cause hurt feelings but we want to be academically correct and what we understand and know to be true. Christianity just is not based on truth. We find that Christianity was in fact, nothing more than a Roman story developed politically. The reality is Jesus was the solar diety of the Gnostic Christian Sect and like all other pagan "gods", he was a mythical figure. It was the political establishment that sought to historize the Jesus figure for social control. In 325 A.D. in Rome, Emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicea, it was during this meeting that the politically motivated Christian doctrines were established and thus began a long history of religious bloodshed and spiritual fraud. For over the next one thousand years the Vatican maintained a political strangle hold of all of Europe, leading to such joyous periods as the dark ages and along with enlightening events such as the Crusades and the Inquisition. Christianity along with all other related theologies is a historical fraud. These religions now serve to detach the species from the natural world and likewise each other. They support blind submission to authority. They reduce human responsibility to the affect that "god" controls everything and in turn awful crimes can be justified in the name of the divine pursuit and most critically it empowers the political establishment who have been using the myth to manipulate and control societies. The religious myth is one of the most powerful devices ever created and it serves as the psychological soil upon which other myths can flourish.

A duality belief system is a system of superiority that makes a separation between the unified creation which is us. I know the "law" or the "church" tells you to do what your told and sometimes the "law" or the "church" is just only a piece of paper but somewhere in between there's life and we have to accept one another regardless of what we're told. It's ok to believe in something but to have faith, it's dangerous. A man who doesn't do his own thinking is a traitor to himself and his fellow men. Faith is doing what you're told, regardless of what's right (e.g. Abraham's willingness to kill son). Morality is doing what's right regardless of what you're told. If you need a supernatural explanation for why you do the right, moral thing then you aren't moral, you're faithful, and your morality is at the mercy of all sorts of corruption that range from schizophrenia, paranoia, nightmares, corruption, corrupt power-hungry religious leaders, political institutions, peer pressure and the media. If your taking a view that there is value in the moral systems produced by religions then that concept is in opposition to humanism. It is the morality of religions, and especially the confidence that such systems have implicit value, that have led, and will continue to lead, to some of the greatest harms and injustices in our societies. Religious beliefs leads directly to poor moral choices. It does this for two reasons.

First, it confuses the morals developed by primitive tribes thousands of years ago for some sort of natural, god given morals. This results in things which are no longer moral by modern standards being blindly and irrationally supported.

Second, Christianity is based on a fundamentally dangerous and immoral concept, that of forgiveness by proxy. The belief that a god can forgive you for the harms you commit against others. This only allows crimes to go unpunished.

And finally, all religion is based on faith, which is the acceptance of ideas in the absence of evidence, or even in the face of contradictory evidence. This leads to false knowledge and a false view of reality. It is an epistemology that the modern world cannot afford in its citizens.

Religious and political institutions use an illusory "evil" presence to strike fear into peoples hearts to gain power for a particular political or religious objective. And its not a "Power of good", its for the "love of power". But when the Power of love overcomes the love for power, the world will know peace. Where science flies men to the moon, religion flies men into buildings. Its also to keep money circulating and to keep them in power. There's probably already a cure for most diseases but they make more money on the treatments. They can probably make cars last longer but its proven that there are parts that are designed to go out to make more money. There's probably a way we could all get along and live in harmony and acceptance but that wouldn't bring them any money would it? "They" say life is a struggle and if your not struggling then your not living. Well that's incorrect because we are all meant to be happy on this planet and neither humans or animals should have to struggle.

A system of superiority which uses an illusory "evil" presence keeps the followers in a continuing state of fear and compliance. They are afraid to question the intentions of this superiority and they are afraid of even expressing their own individuality in many cases. Christians and others are taught that they have virtually no power to do anything except pray, worship and do "good deeds." They are taught to practice self denial and are told that their own will is totally irrelevant. Religious followers believe that they are yielding their will over to a benevolent cosmic individual who has single-handedly created the whole universe and has their best interests at heart when in fact they are handing over their will and freedoms to hidden groups of religious elites for the elites own personal gains. It appears that religion must constantly degrade and humiliate its followers in order to glorify and elevate its god. Unfortunately many people appear eager to give away their power to authority and seem to have a need and even a desire to be ruled and disciplined by it.

No, there is no "god" and there is no "devil" either. There is just good and bad people. The "Religious Powers that be" involved in enslaving us are trying to persuade us that when the "Power of good" overcomes the "Power of evil" or "survival of the fittest" or duality seems to be the ONLY way of being. This isn't meant to be fair. Its meant to keep us unknowingly "puppeted" and contained generation after generation. Their goal is to brainwash us into believing that corruption or evil is a necessary balance, so that we voluntarily participate in fear, thus we represent the spread of duality. So that we will become SO addicted to duality, we will no longer prefer to act in unity, even if we tried because of centuries of manipulation. They try to persuade us that the "Power of good" overcomes the "Power of evil", when in fact, their idea of "good" has been well misrepresented, its not good that they're after, its not good that the government is after, they're after power and they use fear so they can enslave us and it brings corruption, the same corruption that they started when they were torturing, burning and killing innocent people because of a difference in beliefs. And because of a millennium of influence of torturing, burning and killing people with a difference in beliefs, they've accomplished just that, "necessary" evil. When they're asked they say, "The devil is smart". In truth, evil and fear are unnecessary. Its not considered progress when it involves the deaths of many innocent peoples lives, who are tortured, burned and killed no matter what agenda your belief has. The only way we can have order so we can be civilized once more is if we accept and embrace our differences and not with control to gain power because that's not a "Power of good", that is the "Love of Power". But with love, compassion, acceptance and unity, we can have peace. Only when the power of "love" overcomes the love of "power", the world will know peace.

When you stand in the truth of who you are, unity and love becomes effortless, and you regain your defenses against fear and corruption. That is if we can represent unity. A millennium of influence and manipulation have put fourth many efforts to keep us from representing our true uncorrupted potential. This is why through life there are choices of compassion or service to all, and the temptations of "evil" or service to self. One side results in equality and freedom, the other results in corruption an entrapment. Earth has been isolated and manipulated into a genetic farm, an ecosystem where "survival of the fittest" or duality seems to be the ONLY way of being. This is why "life is unfair' because this system of duality is "unfair" by function. The "Religious Powers that be" of this world, think they've got the universe figured out, but they're being deceived into remaining as slaves of duality. In truth, fear and evil are unnecessary. The "Archons" or the "The Religious Powers that be" will play both sides to perpetuate the illusion of duality, to compromise real healing, deceiving the spiritual people and make them dependent into an exterior reliance, total obedience, egotism, fear, stubbornness and double standards. Achieving a wide variety of willing servants. They remain invisible to our spectrum of vision, or "behind the veil" to most effectively implant duality. Earth has been isolated and manipulated into a genetic farm, an ecosystem where "survival of the fittest" or duality seems to be the ONLY way of being. This isn't meant to be fair. Its meant to keep us unknowingly "puppeted" and contained generation after generation. Their goal is to brainwash us into believing corruption, or "evil" is a necessary "balance", so that we voluntarily participate in "evil" and fear, thus we represent and spread duality.

Now, I know the truth and I'm aware of what's going on. It's hard to grasp but there is predator on the loose and we didn't even realize the game its playing on us. This life is a corrupted illusion to test your awareness that there is no "single master" in all of creation, there is only creation as one. There is no source of good or source of evil, there's just good and bad beings through out the entire cosmos. That's why we constantly struggle and wonder why so much corruption. We are spheres of energetic probes created by the universe and it's because we are possessors of energy that has an awareness that we are the means by which the universe becomes aware of itself. If you're aware you exist, then you do. So what makes you, you? Who are we? Our brains? Our brains are a body part like our fingernails and our hearts. Why is that the part that's makes us? It doesn't because we have a sort of voice that's in our heads, the part of us that thinks, that feels, that is aware that we exist at all. If you're aware you exist, then you do. That's why when die we're still here, as energy. That's our awareness. What's true in our minds and in our awareness, is true, whether some people know it or not.

There are outside forces controlling us at this moment, from outside the domain of language, from outside your awareness, eating away to get inside to manipulate the way in which you apply your energy. It is at your control and at the same time it is not. It cannot be classified, but it can certainly be experienced. And above all, it can certainly be manipulated. Remember this though, this control can be manipulated to your total advantage, of course, which is not your advantage, but the advantage of your body's energy. Our body's energy is a conglomerate of energy fields. Energy fields that make up the physical body when it is seen as energy that flows in the universe. The body's energy is smaller, more compact, and of heavier appearance than the luminous sphere of the physical body. The body's energy and our energy's awareness are two conglomerates of energy fields compressed together by some strange clumped together force. This force that binds that group of energy fields together is the most mysterious force in the universe. I estimate that this force is the pure essence of the entire cosmos. The sum total of everything there is. Our body's energy and our awareness are the only counterbalance of energy configurations in our realm as human beings. There are no other dualism in our lives than the one between these two.

Right now your probably feeling the outside forces controlling you at this moment and it probably has a hold on you. I call it the "wrath of god" feeling. And you weren't even aware your were involved in an entrapment. When you try to think on your own and try to examine what your becoming aware of, you'll start fearing the "wrath of God" but don't worry that's not your fear. It's the malevolent extraterrestrial's fear, because it knows that any moment now you'll figure out its agenda and you'll deny your energy to it. When this happens, it will try to rearrange its relationship with you. When you become aware of its evil agenda, you will have been severed from its grasp forever. The predator knows that and fears that.

The real danger is that the predator's mind may win by getting you tired and forcing you to quit by playing the contradiction between what it says and what your becoming aware of, its maneuver. You see, the malevolent predator's mind has no competitors. The predator's mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, and filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. When it proposes something, it agrees with its own proposition, and it makes you believe that you've done something of worth. Many wonder why the bible is so contradictory, this is its source. The malevolent being's mind will say to you that whatever your becoming aware of is pure nonsense, and then the same mind will agree with its own proposition, and you would say, yes, of course, it is nonsense. That's the way they overcome us. Through the mind, which after all is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear. These "other-worldly" beings are an essential part of the universe, they must be taken as what they really are, awesome and monstrous. They are the means by which the universe tests us. We are spheres of energetic probes created by the universe and it's because we are possessors of energy that has an awareness that we are the means by which the universe becomes aware of itself.

Every religious belief turns people against each other because it practices duality that there's supposedly one "single master" in all of creation. It creates a illusory system of superiority that makes a separation between the unified creation which is us. Its not considered progress when it involves the killing of many innocent people no matter what agenda your belief has. Instead of separating ourselves because of a difference of opinions, we should be uniting and accepting our differences to gain our true uncorrupted potential.

Humans have a deep need to believe in the power of good. Nowadays most people interested in spirituality desire the "experience", though they may call what they are after, an intimate communion with "god". Those familiar with the standards and norms of spiritual experience set down by disciplined paths like Sufism are usually outraged at the way religious people look for any apparition from outside the domain of normal consciousness as a manifestation of the "spiritual." In fact, there are many realms in the unseen world, some of them far more dangerous than the worst jungles of the visible world. Human energy or "souls" are susceptible and find this "experience" sweet like a moth to a flame and then within it they are doomed, since they become completely enamored of it.

There are three facts I know of and they are, energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Even before the big bang when it was just gases of energy. Energy never ceases to exist. It has always existed. Second, the idea of two or more non-human groups have been inspiring us through out the history of mankind IS the truth. Third, science can corroborate that life on earth came from the stars. The elements that make up our bodies are found elements in space. We are star dust.

It's not about faith or loyalty, it's about individuality. If you need a supernatural explanation of why you do the moral or right thing then your're not moral, your're faithful and your morality is at the mercy of all sorts of corruption ranging from schizophrenia, paranoia, nightmares, corrupt, power-hungry religious leaders, political institutions, peer pressure, the love for power and the media. The duality belief system of superiority that we have to answer to a supreme being was for conspiring us to pit ourselves against each other. You'll be lost from finding yourself and thinking on your own just like from a drug addiction. What they do is they substitute their mind set for ours. They feed off our energy. By feeding duality, the glowing coat that protects your energy will be eaten away forcing you to unknowingly judge people for being different and sometimes physically or emotionally hurt people. Belief systems of duality have taken many innocent lives through out the history of mankind. Unity is the true path of creative expression. It's like a farmer taking care of his chickens only to feed off of them, of course it seems that he loves them. When the "power of love" overcomes the "love for power", the world will know peace. They weren't interested in our bests of interest, they were guiding us and pushing our evolution to increase power and corruption. This is the way their mind thinks, they substituted their mind for ours. The predator's mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, and filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. That's the way they overcome us. Through the mind, which after all is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear. These "other-worldly" beings are an essential part of the universe, they must be taken as what they really are, awesome and monstrous. They are the means by which the universe tests us. We are spheres of energetic probes created by the universe and it's because we are possessors of energy that has an awareness that we are the means by which the universe becomes aware of itself. They have always wanted us wiped out.

Blindly conforming to any agenda is dangerous, even from our own government. Faith is doing what your told regardless of what's right(ie. Abraham's willingness to kill his son). Morality is doing what's right regardless of what your told. So when you use religious ideology to try to find the truth, the truth your looking for, is not of your own. A person who doesn't do his own thinking is a traitor to himself and his fellowmen. If your taking a view that there is value in the moral systems produced by religions then that concept is in opposition to humanism. It is the morality of religions, and especially the confidence that such systems have implicit value, that have led, and continue to lead, to some of the greatest harms and injustices in our societies. I know the "law" or the "church" tells you to do what your told and sometimes the "law" or the "church" is just only a piece of paper but somewhere in between there's life and we have to accept one another regardless of what we're told.

Quote:" Sumerian mythology claims that, in the beginning, human-like beings of extra-terrestrial origin ruled over Earth. Those beings, or gods, could travel through the sky in either round or rocket shaped vehicles. These beings toiled Earth’s soil, digging to make it habitable and mining its minerals".

AD: "This "digging and toiling the Earth´s soil" rather than "dealing with the Earth", means "making the first firm soil" out from the basical elements, since the Earth wasn´t the first to be created in the Stories of Creations.

I don´t know about "could travel through the sky in either round or rocket shaped vehicles" as such, but I do know that "deities" "travels" around in the Sky which the below description and explanation clearly says:

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_%28Babylonian_astronomy%29
“Nibiru, which is said to have occupied the passageways of heaven and earth, because everyone above and below asks Nibiru if they cannot find the passage.

Nibiru is Marduk's star, which the gods in heaven caused to be visible. Nibiru stands as a post at the turning point. The others say of Nibiru the post: "The one who crosses the middle of the sea (Tiamat) without calm, may his name be Nibiru, for he takes up the center of it". The path of the stars of the sky should be kept unchanged”, unquote.

Explanation:
Nibiru represents the celestial pole and the observable and circumpolar stars and constellations = “Nibiru stands as a post at the turning point” = the celestial pole, for “he takes up the center of it”. This cosmogonical/cosmological fact cannot be told much clearer.

(Unfortunately, the Wikipedia author unreflected copy older misunderstandings of the mythical concept of the middle “Primordial Waters in the heavens-sea” with the mythical Sea/underworld Goddess, Tiamat that is a very common misunderstanding because authors and scholars haven´t the slightest clue of the Milky Way Mythology).

Having explained Nibiru as Marduk´s celestial pole star on the northern hemisphere, the description above in # 6 logically fits into the overall picture: Because of the Earth rotation, the Milky Way Great God figure, Marduk in this case, seemingly revolves around the celestial pole star, Nibiru” and thus “guarding the celestial post” as mentioned here:

“As the highest point in the paths of the planets, Nibiru was considered the seat of the summus deus (The supreme or highest good,) who pastures the stars like sheep, in Babylon identified with Marduk”.

Conclusion: On the Earth hemispheres, the Milky Way contours represent the prime "god" and goddess" travels around the celestial poles on both their hemispheres, the Great God on the northern and the Great Goddess on the southern hemisphere  and both are directly connected to the Stories of Creation from all over the world.

Could you explain some more about the primordial waters/Tiamat in relation to this, and are there any books/sites about it that you would recommend?

My reading of the Wikipedia translation was that it was describing the pole star (Nibiru)'s use in navigation, even, or maybe especially during rough seas (when you'd be more likely to lose your way)...

try reading or wathing a video of loyd pye his video is everything you know is wrong its quite lenghty some ware around in the middle of it he explains pretty well i think you might be pleased

 

Please don't put your complete trust in Wikipedia! Read Zecharia Sitchin's, Earth Chronicles, beginning with Book 1 - The 12th Planet. Mr Sitchin's ground-breaking academic work which began prior to 1974 will explain everything for you.

I do trust wikipedia more than Zecharia Sitchin who obviously has no ideas of how to interpret the myths of creation and that´s because he doesn´t include the Milky Way Mythology and the general ancient knowledge of astronomy and cosmology.

Obviously, we are not reading the same books!

Well, I certainly don´t vast my money on authors who don´t understand the myths they are handling in their books.
Do you then also believe in the “Ancient Aliens” series, which takes myths literary instead of cosmological symbols and astronomical descriptions?

Sitchin definitely understands the truth behind the so-called 'myths' as well as all the ancient cosmology. Your local library should have a copy for you to read for free. If not, then ask them to order in. There are six books in The Earth Chronicles, plus several other titles that he has written. The book, Genesis Revisited, is an excellent 'summary' of the Chronicles and looks at how modern science is just catching up with ancient knowledge.

Sitchin´s perception is a mix up of Immanuel Veikovski´s "Worlds in Collision" and "Ancient Aliens" and it cannot be much otherwise since he also excludes the primeval deities and their connections to the Milky Way Mythology.

Velikovski also is confusing the Stories of Creation and it´s prime deities as being planets. The deification of planets was the result of the Roman adopting Christianity as the Empire Religion in 313 AD, just accepting one invisble god.

Here all the names of the original prime Milky Way deities of creation became surpressed to be planetary deities, where the 5 known planets otherwise just was mentioned as "wandering stars".

I just have skimmed Sitchins "Genesis Revisited" here:

http://www.worldpublicunion.org/ebooks/sitchin%20-%20genesis%20revisited...

Just like Immanuel Velikovski, he´s just talking of planets as with many other authors in this speculative genre. And just like the folks in "Ancient Aliens", he also have no factual clues of what the ancient tellings of genesis is all about.

The Annunaki was the "ones who came from the Sky", it is interpreted. This is a misinterpretation of the still observable prime Milky Way deities, who still is hanging on the night Sky. Link: http://www.native-science.net/Forefather.Worship.htm

Talking just of planets only in a creation story which deals with at telling when nothing was created and where the solar System is not the first to be created and when still taking the tellings of the planets to be more supreme than the creation which came before, is really non sencical.

The cuneiform specialist, Michael S. Heiser, discuss the whole matter here:
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/nibiru.pdf

You will note that he also are having troubles in differ between Jupiter as a prime Milky Way deity instead of the Roman deification of planets. His Babylonian Marduk does not equal the planet Jupiter, but the prime Milky Way god Jupiter i.e. the mythical Marduk and Jupiter represent the same Milky Way figure on the northern hemisphere where they revolves around the north pole area, "Nibiru" in the Babylonian mythology/astronomy. Link: http://www.native-science.net/MilkyWay.GreatestGod.htm

Thankfully, we are all entitled to our own opinions. I 'skimmed' your scholar's phd thesis just as you say you 'skimmed' Sitchin's book and I was left with the same old dry translations of the VERY limited clay tablets left to us. Mainstream archaeology (and related disciplines) mainly deals in fact and face-value. Consequently, it is left for others to interpret what the ancients might have wanted to tell us from using the very meagre and broken sources (so many clay tablets were destroyed before their value was realised). Some museums and repositories will not even allow individuals to study them fully - as if they OWNED our past. Mainstream scholars are prone to jealously guard their work as being the only one's with any relevance, so the fact that Sheiser even acknowledged Sitchin's work was surprising to me. Sitchin (b.1920) was no doubt one of the few reading cuneiform before even Sheiser was born! The theorist whose interpretations we subscribe to (and resonate with) is up to the individual and it is no use arguing on these pages who is right or who is wrong - as is the case with all beliefs and religions - but I do appreciate your suggested links for further reading. (over and out.)

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Excellent comment Marley. Whenever someone ignores information for whatever reason, they are not true researchers. Ignorance, fanaticism and arrogance are the plagues of our society.

Marley, you wrote:

" . . . so the fact that Sheiser even acknowledged Sitchin's work was surprising to me".

What???

How can you twist Michael S. Heiser´s comments to be a support for Sitchins ideas???

Heiser´s conclusion in the PDF file - http://www.michaelsheiser.com/nibiru.pdf - othwerwise states that:

"Hopefully the reader is getting a hint of two things: (1) That Sitchin’s teachings are
false; (2) that there seems to be warrant for the single scholarly article I referenced in the introduction that postulated Nibiru might be the pole star which has changed position in the sky. Unfortunately, I do not know much about astronomy so I cannot evaluate this".

You further wrote:
"The theorist whose interpretations we subscribe to (and resonate with) is up to the individual and it is no use arguing on these pages who is right or who is wrong - as is the case with all beliefs and religions"

This is excatly what is wrong. Individual interpretations of collective mytho-cosmlogical facts shall of course come up with explanations which is obvious for all and which can be scentifically supported.

"Sitchins 12.th planet Nibiru" cannot and of course not be scientifically supported - but it can be mytho-cosmologically supported as having connections to the celestial pole and pole star - if knowing how to interpret the mythical symbols and meanings correctly.

Something that Sitchin and the Ancient Astronaut-society obviosly cannot.

Seeing it is the oldest known written language to be discovered by human kind we can only speculate what the tablets and scrolls say. So it would be very ignorant for any human no matter how smart they are to assume that any one answer is correct. Just remember the game that you played in elementary school when where a child . Sitting a circle, a child would whisper a saying or word in a classmates ear like " a bee makes honey from flowers" by the time it gets around the circle of twelve kids it is completely something different . So remember we are still very young children on a very large sphere.

plz. zecharia sitchin is the biggest freakin quack when it comes to mythology and history. he just twist and reinterprets it to fit his own view that aliens made us when we have way better reasons to believe in things grounded in fact like evolution. not to mention none of his sources are firmly grounded in fact. they are all just as speculative in their assertions as he is with his.

Evolution is a theory and has never been proven...so called scholars should know this...why do these same scholars believe everything the ancients wrote about were myths....if college text books are found intact 3000 years from now will they be considerd myths because of Whays those In the future will think they know...based on ?

Not everything they wrote were myths but tales such as Gilamesh were myths. Every ancient civilization had a creation story and everyone of them believed some thing different. Fact is I do  not think we will ever know how civilization began. The Hopi Indians believed in 4 Creations, Dogon Tribe of Africa is one that you should read about as well.

The Science of the Dogon by Laird Scranton

http://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/966.php

 

http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CS/CSIndex.html

Do not read Sitchin at all. His translations are incorrect. He was not a scholar of the ancient languages and it appears in some cases he made things up. I don't know why anyone would read Sitchin these days. He has been debunked by many. When he was first writing people didn't have the access to information readily like they do now. The Sumerians wrote dictionaries that are now translated first into German and now into English. You can find them on the net. Go read Michael Heiser. He has the scholarship. Wikipedia is as accurate as they can get. Don't chalk them off whether the theories are older or not.

Michael Heiser received an MA in Ancient History from the University of Pennsylvania, and an MA and PhD in the Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages from the University of Wisconsin–Madison (with a minor in Classical studies). Heiser received his undergraduate degree from Bob Jones University and also attended Bible college for three years.

Heiser has studied Egyptian hieroglyphs, the Phoenician, the Aramaic, the Syriac, Moabite, the Ugaritic cuneiform, the Ancient Hebrew, Alexandrian Greek, the Aramaic, Akkadian and Sumerian and Second Temple Jewish monotheism. Heiser has taught college since 1992 and is the Academic Editor for Logos Bible Software.

Heiser cites where his ideas are from and usually gives you a link or tells you where to look. Sitchin is not known for that and would not debate with Heiser before he died.

@Veronica Daze,
I´ll second your reply very much!
Heiser himself admit his astronomical knowledge isn´t that good, and still he interpret and translate specific astronomical facts from the written ancient and mythical texts.
Except from the fact that ancient people also sensed via their spiritual and intuitive skills, much of the ancient myths speaks of very natural phenomenae on and above the Earth which still is observable for us today.
Most of the ancient knowledge is just a simple question of observing the celestial Sky on clear nights and compare the motions with the ancient Myths of Creation. The celestial pole (Nibiru) is obvious; star constellations is named as both humans and animals which is intertwined in the myths and especially the crescent contours of the MIlky Way plays a great part in the numerous cultural creations stories all over the world.
Scholars who just have their noses in books and never observe this concrete scenario, cannot interpret and connect the ancient myths and cosmology correctly. Sitchin and the followers of Immanuel Velikovski´s catastrophic ideas of "World in Collision". obviously never have observed and studied the natural skies.
They all confuse the primeval Milky Way deities as "planetary deities" and the Ancient Astronaut society all interpret the allegorical prime creational deities as real beings "coming down from the Sky" instead of readig these stories correctly as telling of "how everything came to be" i.e. cosmologically how the creation took place in our Milky Way from which center our Solar System is formed.

Read more here:

The Mythical Milky Way Contours - https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B_ze4R9xrRgzcVpmdkRBUzZrU0k

The Mythical Creation - https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B_ze4R9xrRgzT3dPeHRjRHZOVUk

My personal Mytho-Cosmological site: http://www.native-science.net/index.html

Strikes me as a  vendetta agianst Sitchin....2 1/2 million dollars in paper degrees does not make you the absolute know it all!

Fundamentalist agenda? You decide.

"...Wikipedia is as accurate as they can get. Don't chalk them off whether the theories are older or not...."

Wikipedia is under threat of becoming a materialist skeptic's mouthpiece due to the editors who are hijacking the pages of subjects and persons who do not fit into the scientific materialist dogma paradigm. An example is of course the ongoing battle for a truthful biographical account of Dr Rupert Sheldrake,,,,

The ancient Egyptians also drew a parallel between the Milky Way and the Nile, didn't they?

Yes, they did; the ~100 pyramids dotting the landscape along the Nile are a perfect representation of the Milky Way Galaxy (the Nile), and various stars/constellations.
The layout is concise, and cannot be attributed to mere coincidence.

Check out the pyramid star maps shown here --> [ http://thehiddenrecords.com/egypt ], by Wayne Herschel.
His work reveals the significance of the Pleaides constellation to the ancients, and how it bears more profound meaning than even the Orion constellation depicted so often by ancient man.

Yes, they did; the ~100 pyramids dotting the landscape along the Nile are a perfect representation of the Milky Way Galaxy (the Nile), and various stars/constellations.
The layout is concise, and cannot be attributed to mere coincidence.

Check out the pyramid star maps shown here --> [ http://thehiddenrecords.com/egypt ], by Wayne Herschel.
His work reveals the significance of the Pleaides constellation to the ancients, and how it bears more profound meaning than even the Orion constellation depicted so often by ancient man.

In the night sky especially over the Egyptian desert, looking at the thickest band of stars, the disk of the Milky way, is often described in ancient texts as the Celestial Nile, and a number of the oldest pyramids appear to be laid out on the ground in the same pattern as those in the sky, additionally with other more complicated sidereal alignments.

Hello,

Someone should check out the comment box formation which is really annoying and messy.

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Hi Native. What do you mean? Can you send us a screenshot?

Xenophon.

You asked/wrote:

1) Could you explain some more about the primordial waters/Tiamat in relation to this, and are there any books/sites about it that you would recommend?

2) My reading of the Wikipedia translation was that it was describing the pole star (Nibiru)'s use in navigation, even, or maybe especially during rough seas (when you'd be more likely to lose your way)...

AD 1: From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiamat: "Tiamat, the saltwater sea, "she who bore them all"; they were "mixing their waters" - "She who bore them all" refers in my opinion not to the "saltwater sea" or the "primeval waters" but to the term of the Milky Way River Goddess from where everything in our glaxy is created and in this connection I can´t find any books, but I can recommend you to read here: http://www.native-science.net/MilkyWay.MotherGoddess.htm

AD 2: If carefully reading my text above you´ll see that we agree, just with the difference that I´m talking of the cosmological/cosmogonical meaning of the myth and as such a "creational chart" -  (And of course the starry night also later on is used to navigate the oceans on the Earth. So, this telling is both a part of the story of creation and (later) a navigational system.

Thanks! Reading your site now: not entirely convinced that all ancient cultures knew there were two hemispheres, and associated them with the Great God and Goddess respectively (my intuition tells me that seeing a single theory underlying all ancient cosmologies may be like building a house of cards; there's something there, but in my view it's often more fragmented, and the connections between them are often very difficult to discern), but I'm finding the inspiration theory (especially without mention of ancient astronauts!) particularly refreshing (the assumption that inspiration is impossible by academics who aren't interested in mysticism, leads them to construct circular theories that inevitably point away from the phenomenon, which makes them, and educated society as a whole, conclude that the evidence goes against it).

About knowing of the 2 hemispheres, all people can come to this suggestion/imagination/conclusion just by watching the Sun and stars rise and set, going up in "The Upper-world" and down in "The Under-world".
Since we all live on the same Earth, the same Solar System, the same galaxy in the same part of the Universe which all gives us the same informations, I don´t think this is "a card of house" but a very logical origin for the very similar Stories of Creations from all over the world.
Unfortunately these mutual mytho-cosmological informations are taken very literary and technological interpreted by the "Ancient Aliens Society" but one can get a lots "reversed" informations from the series and use the informations in ones own perspective.

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Very interesting Xenophon!
Myths from Mesopotamia: Creation, The Flood, Gilgamesh, and Others (Oxford World's Classics) by Stephanie Dalley is a good book to read.

Cheers for the recommendation, and thanks for the site in general!

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Thank you Native. Apparently it is a bug only for registered users. We are working to fix it!

I found this read very interesting. I also found very interesting is their creating of man myth.

A god was put to death, and his body and blood was mixed with clay. From that material the first human being was created, in likeness to the gods. - See more at: http://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-folklore/origins-human-bein...

"A god was put to death, and his body and blood were mixed with clay. From that material the first human beings were created in likeness to the gods...."

the similarity to the creation story in the bible is quite noticeable....a handful of clay for Adam(......Adapa) and created in likeness to the gods, the same way Adam (man) was created in the image of god...

I find that Eden being  part of the Sumerian mythology of Gilgamesh another interesting point, since Eden was only in the bible and part of the Catholic/Christian mythos

It makes you wonder where Catholic/Christian mythos formed their ideals for their system of beliefs

Hespar

 

I’m sorry. I cannot figure out a connection over here. Theoretically this seems possible. However, there are so many limitations while we consider practically. I do appreciate your efforts. It was interesting to know about the different approaches. http://www.microsoftproblems.com Thank you.

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