Abydos carvings

Abydos carvings

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Abydos, 1848 – In this ancient city in Egypt, the temple of Seti I was discovered. On one of the ceilings of the temple, strange hieroglyphs were found that sparked a debate between Egyptologists. The carvings appear to depict modern vehicles resembling a helicopter, a submarine, and airplanes.

At first the images circulating were thought to be fakes, but were later filmed and verified as valid images. Yet, even if these images clearly appear to resemble twentieth century machines, Egyptologists have tried to offer a rational explanation.

It was common in Ancient Egypt for hieroglyphs to be re-carved and re-faced over the years. This process of writing on the same surface more than once is called palimpsest, and it was common practice when a new Pharaoh was establishing a dynasty to write over the hieroglyphs of his predecessors. It is well known that such a process took place at the temple of Seti I in Abydos by his son Ramses II.

However, there is still some disagreement over the palimpsest theory. If the above depictions are indeed ‘left overs’ from previously carved hieroglyphs, the symbols should appear random and unique. Yet the Arab newspaper Al Sharq Al Awsat has published pictures from another temple in Karnak in which the carvings are very similar to those found in Abydos. If the carvings at Karnak are real, the palimpsest theory falls apart. Still, it is difficult to find evidence of those pictures and until then this argument is in question.

If we know that Egyptians did not have technology of this kind—and if we consider for a moment that these images are true carvings—then we must ask ourselves how they came to appear inside the temple? Could it be that extra-terrestrials visited our planet all those centuries ago and that the ancient Egyptians tried to depict their spacecrafts in the best way they knew how?  For now, it is difficult to prove such a theory, but at the very least, we believe this possibility must be considered.

By John Black

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People who believe these signs represent aircraft must avoid the issue of context for their views to be sustained. It's almost as if they don't know that hieroglyphics represent a spoken language that's governed by rules of syntax and grammar, like all languages are. You can't just insert random words into a sentence and have it make sense. If I say, "My girlfriend took me to the Apple Store and helicopter me an iPad for my birthday," that doesn't make sense. You expect a word like "purchased" or "bought" instead of "helicopter." The question that the aircraft believers can never answer is how the sentence reads that those signs occur within. Now if the sentence began with something like, "A strange object appeared in the sky..." that would support the aircraft theory. But if it's more along the lines of random words inserted, like "helicopter me an iPad," then it doesn't make sense. I'd like to see someone who believes these signs represent aircraft to read the full sentence and explain how the signs fit into it for a coherent meaning. They can't, because it doesn't make sense as aircraft within its context, which is a palimpsest of the names of Seti and Rameses. They seem to believe that because they can't read hieroglyphics, that no one else can either. Aircraft makes no sense within the context of the full inscription. It would be just random words inserted into an otherwise coherent meaning.

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From Timaeus by Plato - the text records a conversation that took place between a Greek named Solon and an Egyptian priest possibly named Sonchis. The Egyptian tells how the movement of bodies in the heavens leads to the destruction of the earth at long intervals and how all knowledge is lost at these times.

The chief city in this district is Sais - the home of King Amasis - the founder of which, as they say, was a goddess whose Egyptian name is Neith, and in Greek, as they assert, Athena. These people profess to be great lovers of Athens and in a measure akin to our people here. And Solon said that when he travelled there he was held in great esteem amongst them; moreover, when he was questioning such of their priests as were most versed in ancient lore about their ancient history, he discovered that neither he himself, nor any other Greek, knew anything at all, one might say, about such matters.

And, on one occasion, when he wished to draw them on to discourse on ancient history, be attempted to tell them the most ancient of our traditions, concerning Phoroneus, who was said to he the first man and Niohe; and he went on to tell the legend about Deucalion and Pyrra after the flood and how they survived it, and to give the genealogy of their descendants; and by recounting the number of years occupied by the events mentioned he tried to calculate the periods of time.

Whereupon one of the priests, a prodigiously old man, said: "Oh Solon. Solon. You Greeks are always children - there is not such a thing as an old Greek." And on hearing this he asked: "What mean you by this saying?"

And the priest replied: "You are young in soul, every one of you. For therein you possess not a single belief that is ancient and derived from old tradition, nor yet one science that is hoary with age. And this is the cause thereof: There have been, and there will be, many and diverse destructions of mankind, of which the greatest are by fire and water, and lesser ones by countless other means. For in truth the story that is told in your country as well as ours, how once upon a time. Phaethon, son of Helios, yoked his father's chariot and, because he was unable to drive it along the course taken by his father burnt up all that was upon the earth, and himself perished by a thunderbolt - that story, as it is told, has the fashion of a legend, but the truth of it lies in the occurrence of a shift of the bodies in the heavens which move round the earth and a destruction of the things on the earth by fierce fire, which recurs at long intervals.

At such times all they that dwell on the mountains, and in high and dry places, suffer destruction more than those who dwell near to rivers or the sea; and in our case the Nile, our saviour in other ways, saves us also at such times from this calamity by rising high. And when, on the other hand, the Gods purge the earth with a flood of waters, all the herdsmen and shepherds that are in the mountains are saved, hut those in the cities of your land are swept into die sea by the streams; whereas in our country neither then nor at any other time does the water pour down over our fields from above, on the contrary it all tends naturally to swell up from below. Hence it is, for these reasons, that what is here preserved is reckoned to be the most ancient; the truth being that in every place where there is no excessive heat or cold to prevent it, there always exists some human stock, now more, now less in number. And if any event has occurred that is noble or great or in any way conspicuous, whether it be in your country or in ours or in some other place of which we know by report, all such events are recorded from of old and preserved here in our temples; whereas your people and the others are but newly equipped, every time, with letters and all such arts as civilised States require;

and when, after the usual interval of years, like a plague, the flood from heaven comes sweeping down afresh upon your people, it leaves none of you but the unlettered and the uncultured, so that you become young as ever, with no knowledge of all that happened in old times in this land or in your own. Certainly the genealogies which you related just now, Solon, concerning the peoples of your country, are little better than children's tales; for, in the first place, you remember but one deluge, though many had occurred previously; and next, you are ignorant of the fact that the noblest and most perfect race amongst men were born in the land where you now dwell, and from them both you yourself are sprung and the whole of your existing city, out of some little seed that chanced to be left over; but this has escaped your notice because for many generations the survivors died with no power to express themselves in writing. For verily at one time, Solon, before the greatest destruction by water, what is now the Athenian state was the bravest in war and supremely well organized also in other respects. It is said that it possessed the most splendid works of art, and the noblest polity of any nation under heaven of which we have heard tell."

Upon hearing this, Solon said that he marvelled, and with the utmost eagerness requested the priest to recount for him in order and exactly all the facts about those citizens of old. The priest then said: "I begrudge you not the story. Solon; nay, I will tell it, both for your own sake and that of your city, and most of all for the sake of the Goddess who has adopted for her own both your land and this of ours, and has nurtured and trained them - yours first by the space of a thousand years, when she had received the seed of you from Ge and Hephaestus, and after that ours. And the duration of our civilisation as set down in our sacred writings is 8,000 years. Of the citizens, then, who lived 9,000 years ago, I will declare to you briefly certain of their laws and the noblest of the deeds they performed; the full account in precise order and detail we shall go through later, at our leisure, taking the actual writings."

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Whether it is a palimsest or not, it has caused countless numbers of people to become interested enough to start asking questions. That alone makes it invaluable.

Data vinchi also had this image of man flying and even made a helicopter in models form why not a people as advanced as the Egyptian 

. We talk of a place called Atlantis and its advanced civilization where flying machines where common place and so is it possible this is what the Egyptian tryed to show us ....... I don't see it being any thing but that......

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