In fact Joseph T. Chang (Department of Statistics, Yale University) proves mathematically that the point in time where the most recent common ancestor of all living humans lived is surprisingly recent, between 5000 and 10000 years (http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/Ancestors.pdf). This page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point) discusses multiple angles to common ancestry referring to other similar research.
This article focuses on two genetic factors and ignores all others just because these two are so easy to track - one transmitted only through maternal line, the other one transmitted only through paternal line.
My own limited experience with genealogy showed that in a small town of less than 1000 inhabitants everyone living there today is directly related to everyone who lived there 6 generations ago. I am estimating that in an average country everyone living there today is related to everyone who lived there 1000 years ago. Everyone living in the world today are for similar reasons probably directly related to everyone that lived in Africa 100.000 years ago (not ruling out odd exceptions and counting any other primate lineage that did have offsprings with our ancestors).
This artice gives the impression that all others than these two so called genealogical adam and eve have not contributed genetically to anyone today. Just check the graphic with the maternal lineage - the upside down tree of ladies in black - above and ask yourself "What about the husbands of all those ladies in black?"
The painting seen at the top of the page, depicting Dee performing a ritual or experiment before Queen Elizabeth 1st, was altered by the 19th century artist, Henry Glindoni. In the original version, Dr. Dee was shown standing in a circle of human skulls, placed on the floor. Glindoni painted them out, possibly at the request of a potential buyer. The skulls were discovered a couple of years ago when the painting was x-rayed.
Very interesting article, sorry to be somewhat scatterbrained but I have chemo brain currently, but I seem to remember a similar 'village of the dead' with small houselike structures on an island in the med, Sicily or Sardinia?
Weather changes and continuously hide the ancients and exposes the ancients for millions of years.. nature deals with everything slobby humans throw at her
Very exciting. It would be a good idea to document all the positions of the stones accurately. E.g. A scale and North bearing on the aerial photo's would allow analysis, ever before a dig!
The ancient Hebrews had a patriarch that also served as an advisor of sorts, they had prophets and judges including women judges. The people however wanted to be like the surrounding peoples and have a king over them. Samuel the prophet was disappointed and even went to God and told him they rejected him (Samuel) but God told him they had no rejected Samuel but in fact had rejected God. Through Samuel, God warned them that if they took a king that wars, death, and slavery would follow. It did and it wasn't long that Saul, first king led them into war with neighbors. Warfare continued almost non-stop until Soloman's reign. The books of 1st and 2nd Samuel tell the story.
So I believe your observations are correct. I think you had people of influence but most did not need a king or rulers. Job, one of the oldest books seems to indicate that many people from different countries got along and sought advice from others but no mention of wars or fighting other than thieves and such.
I have been Folkish Heathen for over 20 years. Universalism is Cultural Appropriation. I was raised around Native Americans and would never think to steal their culture. It's no different with ours.
This is still practiced in Finland today. Uncommon, but widely known method.
Traditionally a Y-shaped willow branch was used, but as in below youtube video shows, D-shaped ring of iron wire can be used also to find underground water veins.
I have never heard of this place but I would suspect lower levels similar to the upper.
I would also guess the order of the Angels (Sephiroth) would veil hidden meanings similar to ancient depictions of the position of the snake on the tree of life. The position of the serpent reveals the order of the 10. The #33 would also be included somehow. 22 paths + 10 Sephiroth - the remaining 1 would be veiled as well.
Nick made an interesting point, but can be expanded to include;
Solid (earth) - Carbon, Liquid (Water) Hydrogen, Gas (air) Oxygen and Fire (Plasma) Nitrogen
Making us (97% of our bodies) - endowed with the quintessence - spirit
Alignments of celestial bodies would definitely play a role if used as a place of ceremony.
The light of the Shekinah (Mercury / Venus) alignment would be much sought after.
Also #40 and the Venus cycle dealing with kingship.
Numbers / Gematria would almost certainly play a role.
The height, length, width of stones, paths, terraces, levels, etc within the garden would not be coincidence. Proportion, ratio, & Number would be most crucial.
There has to be circles all throughout the garden if I had to guess.
Interesting to read of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age Although recorded history started in 4000BCE, the iconography of many cultures goes back much further and you can see in it how they reference the age they are in.
Also a very interesting lecture from Irving Finkel on the Ark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_fkpZSnz2I
The flood story is common in every society and likely to predate writing so had to be preserved in oral histories. There is an emerging body that this may relate to a period around 12,000 BCE, e.g end of the ice age. What is unknown is what could have caused such a dramatic rise in sea levels, a meteorite or bursting of the banks. The meteorite makes sense as people studied the stars well before they could write and may have seen an approach and built an ark (there is a dangerous period when asteroids do cross the Earth orbit, but how they could have known this from an earlier period seems challenging. There would have been other tsunami but it is more difficult to see how this could be predicted.
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In fact Joseph T. Chang (Department of Statistics, Yale University) proves mathematically that the point in time where the most recent common ancestor of all living humans lived is surprisingly recent, between 5000 and 10000 years (http://www.stat.yale.edu/~jtc5/papers/Ancestors.pdf). This page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_ancestors_point) discusses multiple angles to common ancestry referring to other similar research.
This article focuses on two genetic factors and ignores all others just because these two are so easy to track - one transmitted only through maternal line, the other one transmitted only through paternal line.
My own limited experience with genealogy showed that in a small town of less than 1000 inhabitants everyone living there today is directly related to everyone who lived there 6 generations ago. I am estimating that in an average country everyone living there today is related to everyone who lived there 1000 years ago. Everyone living in the world today are for similar reasons probably directly related to everyone that lived in Africa 100.000 years ago (not ruling out odd exceptions and counting any other primate lineage that did have offsprings with our ancestors).
This artice gives the impression that all others than these two so called genealogical adam and eve have not contributed genetically to anyone today. Just check the graphic with the maternal lineage - the upside down tree of ladies in black - above and ask yourself "What about the husbands of all those ladies in black?"
Ultraculture covered this in detail in 2015. You can find the link here:
ultraculture.org/blog/2015/02/16/asatru-hilmar-orm-hilmarsson/
The painting seen at the top of the page, depicting Dee performing a ritual or experiment before Queen Elizabeth 1st, was altered by the 19th century artist, Henry Glindoni. In the original version, Dr. Dee was shown standing in a circle of human skulls, placed on the floor. Glindoni painted them out, possibly at the request of a potential buyer. The skulls were discovered a couple of years ago when the painting was x-rayed.
Very interesting article, sorry to be somewhat scatterbrained but I have chemo brain currently, but I seem to remember a similar 'village of the dead' with small houselike structures on an island in the med, Sicily or Sardinia?
They better hurry up. NYC is supposed to be under water soon! Wait a minute: That was supposed to have already happened!
I know this will anger some people , but maybe not all humans started in africa.
Please don't allow racist or anti-semitic comments on this site.
Weather changes and continuously hide the ancients and exposes the ancients for millions of years.. nature deals with everything slobby humans throw at her
Very exciting. It would be a good idea to document all the positions of the stones accurately. E.g. A scale and North bearing on the aerial photo's would allow analysis, ever before a dig!
You cannot patent a plant
Ends that quest real fast
The ancient Hebrews had a patriarch that also served as an advisor of sorts, they had prophets and judges including women judges. The people however wanted to be like the surrounding peoples and have a king over them. Samuel the prophet was disappointed and even went to God and told him they rejected him (Samuel) but God told him they had no rejected Samuel but in fact had rejected God. Through Samuel, God warned them that if they took a king that wars, death, and slavery would follow. It did and it wasn't long that Saul, first king led them into war with neighbors. Warfare continued almost non-stop until Soloman's reign. The books of 1st and 2nd Samuel tell the story.
So I believe your observations are correct. I think you had people of influence but most did not need a king or rulers. Job, one of the oldest books seems to indicate that many people from different countries got along and sought advice from others but no mention of wars or fighting other than thieves and such.
Thank you for your comments! You’ge definitely given me a lot to think about.
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I have been Folkish Heathen for over 20 years. Universalism is Cultural Appropriation. I was raised around Native Americans and would never think to steal their culture. It's no different with ours.
Copper wire is used in the video, not iron.
This is still practiced in Finland today. Uncommon, but widely known method.
Traditionally a Y-shaped willow branch was used, but as in below youtube video shows, D-shaped ring of iron wire can be used also to find underground water veins.
Video is in Finnish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7lTrNnShnk
Interesting article, Thank You!
I have never heard of this place but I would suspect lower levels similar to the upper.
I would also guess the order of the Angels (Sephiroth) would veil hidden meanings similar to ancient depictions of the position of the snake on the tree of life. The position of the serpent reveals the order of the 10. The #33 would also be included somehow. 22 paths + 10 Sephiroth - the remaining 1 would be veiled as well.
Nick made an interesting point, but can be expanded to include;
Solid (earth) - Carbon, Liquid (Water) Hydrogen, Gas (air) Oxygen and Fire (Plasma) Nitrogen
Making us (97% of our bodies) - endowed with the quintessence - spirit
Alignments of celestial bodies would definitely play a role if used as a place of ceremony.
The light of the Shekinah (Mercury / Venus) alignment would be much sought after.
Also #40 and the Venus cycle dealing with kingship.
Numbers / Gematria would almost certainly play a role.
The height, length, width of stones, paths, terraces, levels, etc within the garden would not be coincidence. Proportion, ratio, & Number would be most crucial.
There has to be circles all throughout the garden if I had to guess.
Thanks for the Article!
For those that are interested in could an asteroid have been seen. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Lenses_of_rock_crystal,_Minoan_C...
The Babylon record the moons of planets, which suggest that lens must have been used.
Interesting to read of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age Although recorded history started in 4000BCE, the iconography of many cultures goes back much further and you can see in it how they reference the age they are in.
Also a very interesting lecture from Irving Finkel on the Ark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_fkpZSnz2I
The flood story is common in every society and likely to predate writing so had to be preserved in oral histories. There is an emerging body that this may relate to a period around 12,000 BCE, e.g end of the ice age. What is unknown is what could have caused such a dramatic rise in sea levels, a meteorite or bursting of the banks. The meteorite makes sense as people studied the stars well before they could write and may have seen an approach and built an ark (there is a dangerous period when asteroids do cross the Earth orbit, but how they could have known this from an earlier period seems challenging. There would have been other tsunami but it is more difficult to see how this could be predicted.
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