It was found UNDER the Crucifixion site near Gordon’s Calvary North of Old Jerusalem in 1983 by Ron Wyatt and his team. It is still underground, and cannot yet be moved. The discovery was written up by Jonathan Gray in Ark of the Covenant.
They did what needed to be done, and most likely the people who did it were the ones who were both skilled at it and also ‘wanted’ to do it, like hunting. I guarantee there were women making the stone tools and men working with leather. They needed the most skilled people to make things as important as that or they would not have survived.
The vast majority of all tasks would have been done by all members of the community. I doubt very seriously only men made tools (and why would they use their teeth on a rock?) or only women made clothes. The study actually says they have NO IDEA what the tooth grooves actually mean, just that they are different on men and women and then they just ‘guess’ and make up what it ‘probably’ means and I hate it when they do that! They weren’t human anyway. Then they compare women’s work of African tribes, the only people on the planet who don’t have Neanderthal DNA. From what I know ‘women’s work’ in Africa is literally almost EVERYTHING, except ‘herding’ and in some countries they do that too. They grow the food, grind the grain, make the bread, raise the kids, make the clothes, fetch the water (probably made the ceramic pots & the mud ovens they cook in) collect the wood to cook on – it’s ridiculous. I even saw a water conservation technique for dry season making small dams by hand and all the workers were women! African tribal male/female roles – men are ‘warriors’ & herders – women do everything else. It’s almost like the men just choose what is easiest or ‘most fun’ (who wouldn’t rather fish or run around the woods hunting than ‘collect & carry water’ or scratch the dirt and pull weeds in a field, pick grain & crush it with a rock to make flour).
Why would they be so ignorant and close minded to compare the behavior of neanderthals to humans anyway? I don’t think the neanderthals were ‘war like’ or had like warriors & the like.
As you said they neglected to think of cultures in which women were also hunters, etc., for example the pictish people who fought off the romans & the women were known to have fought just as ferociously as the men and right alongside them. More likely to have been like the Picts than people on another continent who don’t even have their DNA.
I thought the same thing when I saw that illustration.. Especially now that we know it wasn’t true. I also thought it looked very simian & crude as well, barely more than an ape by that drawing.
I also have a hard time believing that ‘white skin’ is no older than 8k years as have recently been stated, as I presumed one of the things that made us ‘lighter’ and maybe created red hair was our Neanderthal DNA.
Celebrations are because the Sun of god has been born (or born again).
The Sun of God turns water into wine (along with a bunch of grapes).
The Sun of God walks on water, at least when the water ripples the reflected light looks just like foot steps, as you walk so the footsteps walk forward, mesmerising to watch.
The Sun of God performs a miracle every day.
The ancients revered the Sun of God as Christians do today.
Jay, as an economist you may perhaps have not looked at a more esoteric subject that prevents babies being born on 25th.
The Mother who happens to be the kingpin of the family has a certain amount of control over her body and perhaps ( even sub-consciously) Mum, intentionally delays the birth until things are redirected to her and not the the presents that the rest of the family got.
The precession (caused by gradual rotation of the Earth’s axis) of the equinoxes is the period of time that it takes the Earth’s axis to pass through one complete cycle of the zodiac. It takes the planet 72 years to pass through one degree of the zodiac and 25,920 years to complete one full circle of 360 degrees. One half of the journey takes 12,960 years and covers the four yugas. Satya Yuga lasts 5184 years. Treta Yuga lasts 3888 years. Dwapara Yuga lasts 2592 years. Kali Yuga lasts 1296 years. These four yugas taken together come to a total of 12,960 years
Easy now. I was born on Dec. 24th. I will say that 12/24 and 12/25 aren’t the best days on which to have a birthday, but it is what it is. There are worse days. Tax day, or 9/11, for example.
Your comments on my (ongoing) hermeneutic of the White Snake (legend) and its recent avatars in Chinese movies, TV serials, etc. would be most welcome:
According to my hypothesis, the Magi from Parthia were traveling by the circular route: Parthia, Arabia, the Nabataeans, Judea, Galilee, Iturea-Trachonitis, Damascus, Palmyra, Parthia (see the map). In Arabia they could acquire some gold, frankincense, and myrrh for their own needs. But all these things could be purchased in Jerusalem too.
At dawn of August 26 when the Magi were near Jerusalem they saw a rise of an unusual bright star. In the evening they met Herod. The night the Magi spent in Jerusalem and at dawn of August 27 went to Bethlehem in search of the newborn king of the Jews.
After the Adoration the Magi "returned to their country by another route" Mt 2.12 that is by Judea, North Galilee, Iturea-Trachonitis, Damascus, Palmyra, When they went through Iturea-Trachonitis (see the map) their narrations produced a particularly strong effect.
Mistletoe is an abortifacient.
Kissing is a prelude to sex. (O.K. not always)
All medication came originally from plants and most still do.
Further if the above were known before "The Pill" perhaps, just perhaps pharmaceutical companies could not make the big money they have done and continue to do.
Referring to the articles warning: What would a doctor know of a medicinal plant? Nothing, other than the toxic stuff he is programmed to push upon the innocents.
On a cultural timeframe, people in ancient Egypt were fundamentally the same people as us with the same range of differences seen today.
One fourth find science the way to go, half believe in magic, and the rest do not really care.
That said, public works on a grand scale would be highly approved of during good times. We still do that today also and not everyone is always on board. How many protestants live near cathedrals?
They erected the ideals of their culture at the time, the more we understand, the better.
Tintagel, the soon to be new Disneyland of Cornwall, to share the same fate as Land’s End, was historically more important as an port. The first original castle was built by Celtic Dumnonian kings, maybe to protect the port, the present castle was built by an Norman-French Earl of Cornwall, using the Arthurian legend to gain favour. The castle at Castle An Dinas was more important at the supposed time of Arthur than Tintagel but Tintagel is more impressive and brings in more revenue. The Cornish Celts of old were a very fierce people who struck fear into hearts and earnt the respect of their enemies. We’ll never know the truth as the history of Cornwall isn’t important, such as Arthur always being portrayed as English. He existed long before the Anglo’s arrived.
The current line is broken. King Richards bones were found and DNA confirms this. Jews are not the line . Israelites are. They are western Europeans and In America.
The Arbroath Declaration
The Scottish Declaration of Independence, in Latin, is written on parchment and is now kept in Register House in Edinburgh. This ancient document, described by Register House officials as "probably our most precious possession," is dated A.D. 1320, and bears the seals of Scottish barons assembled in Parliament under Robert the Bruce.
A translation taken from the "Scots Magazine," April, 1934, pp. 16-18, reads:
"To the Most Holy Father in Christ and Lord, the Lord John, by divine providence Supreme Pontiff of the Holy Roman and Universal Church... Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations, our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian (Mediterranean) Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous.
Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly destroyed, and even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since. In their kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal stock, the line unbroken by a single foreigner.
The high qualities and deserts of these people, were they not otherwise manifest, gain glory from this: that the King of kings and Lord of lords, our Lord Jesus Christ, after His Passion and Resurrection, called them, even though settled in the uttermost parts of the earth, almost the first to His most holy faith. Nor would He have them confirmed in that faith by merely anyone but by the first of His Apostles by calling - though second or third in rank - the most gentle Saint Andrew, the Blessed Peter’s brother, and desired him to keep them under his protection as their patron for ever…
'THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL' is not synonymous with the 'House of Judah'. The House of Judah and some of the Jews are of Israel, that is, descended from Jacob. The distinction we wish to emphasise is that while some Jews are Israelites, all Israelites are not necessarily Jews. In a similar way, all Scots are British, but all the British are not Scots. When the general blessings were apportioned at Jacob's death, the Messiah was promised, with the sovereignty, to Judah; but the 'multitude of nations' and the temporal grandeur of the birthright were given to Joseph.
The House of Israel was to obtain these in the latter days, or the Christian era. Ten-tribed Israel was to be divorced from the Mosaic law and its identity temporarily lost to history, but known to God; it was to be recovenanted in Christ to enjoy the Israel birthright in the Isles of the Sea, to be His nation of evangelists in the world, and the inheritor of the Kingdom of God. The prophets display meticulous care in their address to the 'House of Israel', the 'House of Judah' and 'the inhabitants of Jerusalem' (the Jews). To apply to one 'House' a prophecy which refers to the other is clearly to misapply the message and confuse the issue. A careful regard of this distinction is prerequisite to the correct understanding of the prophetic Scriptures.
Evolution? Science has still not found the transition from non-flowering to flowering plants, and there have been MANY discoveries of tools and artifacts (and even some skeletal remains) indicating the presence of anatomically modern man as early as 5 million years ago and even earlier. Those are conveniently rejected by mainstream so-called scientists who use a whole variety of excuses to deny their provenance, including discrediting their discoverers.
Not well known to many “Exodus fans” is that two Egyptologists, Professors Kenneth A. Kitchen and Eric K. Hoffmeier, understand that more than 480 years elapsed from the Exodus to Solomon’s building of the Temple, circa 966 BC, giving an Exodus of 1446 BC (see 1 KIngs 6:1). Hoffmeier claims 633 years elapsed, giving us an Exodus of circa 966 BC + 633= 1599 BC, about the time of Pharaoh Ahmoses I, founder of the Egyptian 18th Dynasty. Was Ahmoses recast as Moses? Ahmoses is credited with expelling the Hyksos Asiatics from Egypt, pursuing them back to Canaan and then conquering Canaan, making it a part of the Egyptian Empire for 400 years until circa 1130 BC and the reign of Pharaoh Rameses VI. Most scholars date the Hyksos expulsion circa 1540 or 1530 BC. The Bible portrays Jericho falling to Joshua, its walls collapsing, then Joshua burns the city. In the 1950’s Dame Kathleen Kenyon re-excavated Jericho and stated that its last defensive wall had collapsed due to an earthquake, then the whole city was set on fire, ash being found everywhere. She said this was probably the work of Ahmoses I Egyptians who had pursued the Hyksos back to Canaan, circa 1540 BC. No later defensive wall exists at Jericho. That is to say in an Exodus of circa 1446 BC, there were no walls to collapse and be burned, all this happened a hundred years earlier. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, in his History of the Jews, circa 80 AD, claimed that the Hyksos Expulsion was the Egyptian version of Israel’s Exodus under Moses. The problem? Excavations in Moab (today’s modern state of Jordan) revealed that many of the sites listed in the Bible as being conquered and settled by Israel, under Moses, were no earlier than the 12th century BC, called Iron Age I in modern terminology. My conclusions, based on the archaeological findings? Two events, rooted in real happenings, several hundred years apart from each other, were fused together and presented in the Bible as one event. That is to say the Hyksos Expulsion of circa 1540 BC was fused with the Iron Age I settlements found in Moab, circa 1200-1100 BC. WHY? The Bible has the answer. After Israel conquers Moab and Canaan, Israel intermarries with those conquered peoples and comes to worship their gods. The Iron Age I intermarriages, produced by Iron Age II times, a new Israel, who can claim descent from the Hyksos, via the intermarriages of Iron Age I. The Primary History (Genesis-2 Kings) being written circa 562-560 BC in the Exile, at Babylon. My website, www.bibleorigins.net goes into all the details, the archaeological discoveries in Egypt, the Sinai, the Negev, Edom, Moab and Canaan.
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How come there is not a single hieroglyphic description of the pyramids built in the 4th Dynasty-Khufu?
It was found UNDER the Crucifixion site near Gordon’s Calvary North of Old Jerusalem in 1983 by Ron Wyatt and his team. It is still underground, and cannot yet be moved. The discovery was written up by Jonathan Gray in Ark of the Covenant.
As someone who was born on 9/11 I agree with you. I get depressed every year as my birthday approaches
“Oshun is attracted to all things that glitter and are shiny.” Oshun is a blonde?
They did what needed to be done, and most likely the people who did it were the ones who were both skilled at it and also ‘wanted’ to do it, like hunting. I guarantee there were women making the stone tools and men working with leather. They needed the most skilled people to make things as important as that or they would not have survived.
The vast majority of all tasks would have been done by all members of the community. I doubt very seriously only men made tools (and why would they use their teeth on a rock?) or only women made clothes. The study actually says they have NO IDEA what the tooth grooves actually mean, just that they are different on men and women and then they just ‘guess’ and make up what it ‘probably’ means and I hate it when they do that! They weren’t human anyway. Then they compare women’s work of African tribes, the only people on the planet who don’t have Neanderthal DNA. From what I know ‘women’s work’ in Africa is literally almost EVERYTHING, except ‘herding’ and in some countries they do that too. They grow the food, grind the grain, make the bread, raise the kids, make the clothes, fetch the water (probably made the ceramic pots & the mud ovens they cook in) collect the wood to cook on – it’s ridiculous. I even saw a water conservation technique for dry season making small dams by hand and all the workers were women! African tribal male/female roles – men are ‘warriors’ & herders – women do everything else. It’s almost like the men just choose what is easiest or ‘most fun’ (who wouldn’t rather fish or run around the woods hunting than ‘collect & carry water’ or scratch the dirt and pull weeds in a field, pick grain & crush it with a rock to make flour).
Why would they be so ignorant and close minded to compare the behavior of neanderthals to humans anyway? I don’t think the neanderthals were ‘war like’ or had like warriors & the like.
As you said they neglected to think of cultures in which women were also hunters, etc., for example the pictish people who fought off the romans & the women were known to have fought just as ferociously as the men and right alongside them. More likely to have been like the Picts than people on another continent who don’t even have their DNA.
I thought the same thing when I saw that illustration.. Especially now that we know it wasn’t true. I also thought it looked very simian & crude as well, barely more than an ape by that drawing.
I also have a hard time believing that ‘white skin’ is no older than 8k years as have recently been stated, as I presumed one of the things that made us ‘lighter’ and maybe created red hair was our Neanderthal DNA.
Celebrations are because the Sun of god has been born (or born again).
The Sun of God turns water into wine (along with a bunch of grapes).
The Sun of God walks on water, at least when the water ripples the reflected light looks just like foot steps, as you walk so the footsteps walk forward, mesmerising to watch.
The Sun of God performs a miracle every day.
The ancients revered the Sun of God as Christians do today.
Jay, as an economist you may perhaps have not looked at a more esoteric subject that prevents babies being born on 25th.
The Mother who happens to be the kingpin of the family has a certain amount of control over her body and perhaps ( even sub-consciously) Mum, intentionally delays the birth until things are redirected to her and not the the presents that the rest of the family got.
actually ….
The Cycle of Four Yugas
The precession (caused by gradual rotation of the Earth’s axis) of the equinoxes is the period of time that it takes the Earth’s axis to pass through one complete cycle of the zodiac. It takes the planet 72 years to pass through one degree of the zodiac and 25,920 years to complete one full circle of 360 degrees. One half of the journey takes 12,960 years and covers the four yugas. Satya Yuga lasts 5184 years. Treta Yuga lasts 3888 years. Dwapara Yuga lasts 2592 years. Kali Yuga lasts 1296 years. These four yugas taken together come to a total of 12,960 years
Martin Luther died in 1546, therefore he could not have popularised the Christmas tree in1605 as he had been dead for over half a century by then
Easy now. I was born on Dec. 24th. I will say that 12/24 and 12/25 aren’t the best days on which to have a birthday, but it is what it is. There are worse days. Tax day, or 9/11, for example.
Thanks Wu,
Your comments on my (ongoing) hermeneutic of the White Snake (legend) and its recent avatars in Chinese movies, TV serials, etc. would be most welcome:
https://www.indiapost.com/white-snake-tantric-sexuality-in-chinese-popul...
http://www.svabhinava.org/IndoChina/SuntharVisuvalingam/WhiteSnake-frame...
Regards,
Sunthar
According to my hypothesis, the Magi from Parthia were traveling by the circular route: Parthia, Arabia, the Nabataeans, Judea, Galilee, Iturea-Trachonitis, Damascus, Palmyra, Parthia (see the map). In Arabia they could acquire some gold, frankincense, and myrrh for their own needs. But all these things could be purchased in Jerusalem too.
At dawn of August 26 when the Magi were near Jerusalem they saw a rise of an unusual bright star. In the evening they met Herod. The night the Magi spent in Jerusalem and at dawn of August 27 went to Bethlehem in search of the newborn king of the Jews.
After the Adoration the Magi "returned to their country by another route" Mt 2.12 that is by Judea, North Galilee, Iturea-Trachonitis, Damascus, Palmyra, When they went through Iturea-Trachonitis (see the map) their narrations produced a particularly strong effect.
See my comments on Quora and my site www.nativity.reznikova.ru/eng/ for further information.
Here is my understanding:
Mistletoe is an abortifacient.
Kissing is a prelude to sex. (O.K. not always)
All medication came originally from plants and most still do.
Further if the above were known before "The Pill" perhaps, just perhaps pharmaceutical companies could not make the big money they have done and continue to do.
Referring to the articles warning: What would a doctor know of a medicinal plant? Nothing, other than the toxic stuff he is programmed to push upon the innocents.
On a cultural timeframe, people in ancient Egypt were fundamentally the same people as us with the same range of differences seen today.
One fourth find science the way to go, half believe in magic, and the rest do not really care.
That said, public works on a grand scale would be highly approved of during good times. We still do that today also and not everyone is always on board. How many protestants live near cathedrals?
They erected the ideals of their culture at the time, the more we understand, the better.
Tintagel, the soon to be new Disneyland of Cornwall, to share the same fate as Land’s End, was historically more important as an port. The first original castle was built by Celtic Dumnonian kings, maybe to protect the port, the present castle was built by an Norman-French Earl of Cornwall, using the Arthurian legend to gain favour. The castle at Castle An Dinas was more important at the supposed time of Arthur than Tintagel but Tintagel is more impressive and brings in more revenue. The Cornish Celts of old were a very fierce people who struck fear into hearts and earnt the respect of their enemies. We’ll never know the truth as the history of Cornwall isn’t important, such as Arthur always being portrayed as English. He existed long before the Anglo’s arrived.
The current line is broken. King Richards bones were found and DNA confirms this. Jews are not the line . Israelites are. They are western Europeans and In America.
The Arbroath Declaration
The Scottish Declaration of Independence, in Latin, is written on parchment and is now kept in Register House in Edinburgh. This ancient document, described by Register House officials as "probably our most precious possession," is dated A.D. 1320, and bears the seals of Scottish barons assembled in Parliament under Robert the Bruce.
A translation taken from the "Scots Magazine," April, 1934, pp. 16-18, reads:
"To the Most Holy Father in Christ and Lord, the Lord John, by divine providence Supreme Pontiff of the Holy Roman and Universal Church... Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books of the ancients we find that among other famous nations, our own, the Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian (Mediterranean) Sea and the Pillars of Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however barbarous.
Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly destroyed, and even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since. In their kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own royal stock, the line unbroken by a single foreigner.
The high qualities and deserts of these people, were they not otherwise manifest, gain glory from this: that the King of kings and Lord of lords, our Lord Jesus Christ, after His Passion and Resurrection, called them, even though settled in the uttermost parts of the earth, almost the first to His most holy faith. Nor would He have them confirmed in that faith by merely anyone but by the first of His Apostles by calling - though second or third in rank - the most gentle Saint Andrew, the Blessed Peter’s brother, and desired him to keep them under his protection as their patron for ever…
'THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL' is not synonymous with the 'House of Judah'. The House of Judah and some of the Jews are of Israel, that is, descended from Jacob. The distinction we wish to emphasise is that while some Jews are Israelites, all Israelites are not necessarily Jews. In a similar way, all Scots are British, but all the British are not Scots. When the general blessings were apportioned at Jacob's death, the Messiah was promised, with the sovereignty, to Judah; but the 'multitude of nations' and the temporal grandeur of the birthright were given to Joseph.
The House of Israel was to obtain these in the latter days, or the Christian era. Ten-tribed Israel was to be divorced from the Mosaic law and its identity temporarily lost to history, but known to God; it was to be recovenanted in Christ to enjoy the Israel birthright in the Isles of the Sea, to be His nation of evangelists in the world, and the inheritor of the Kingdom of God. The prophets display meticulous care in their address to the 'House of Israel', the 'House of Judah' and 'the inhabitants of Jerusalem' (the Jews). To apply to one 'House' a prophecy which refers to the other is clearly to misapply the message and confuse the issue. A careful regard of this distinction is prerequisite to the correct understanding of the prophetic Scriptures.
My question would be was the Isle of Lewis the only place examined
Evolution? Science has still not found the transition from non-flowering to flowering plants, and there have been MANY discoveries of tools and artifacts (and even some skeletal remains) indicating the presence of anatomically modern man as early as 5 million years ago and even earlier. Those are conveniently rejected by mainstream so-called scientists who use a whole variety of excuses to deny their provenance, including discrediting their discoverers.
Not well known to many “Exodus fans” is that two Egyptologists, Professors Kenneth A. Kitchen and Eric K. Hoffmeier, understand that more than 480 years elapsed from the Exodus to Solomon’s building of the Temple, circa 966 BC, giving an Exodus of 1446 BC (see 1 KIngs 6:1). Hoffmeier claims 633 years elapsed, giving us an Exodus of circa 966 BC + 633= 1599 BC, about the time of Pharaoh Ahmoses I, founder of the Egyptian 18th Dynasty. Was Ahmoses recast as Moses? Ahmoses is credited with expelling the Hyksos Asiatics from Egypt, pursuing them back to Canaan and then conquering Canaan, making it a part of the Egyptian Empire for 400 years until circa 1130 BC and the reign of Pharaoh Rameses VI. Most scholars date the Hyksos expulsion circa 1540 or 1530 BC. The Bible portrays Jericho falling to Joshua, its walls collapsing, then Joshua burns the city. In the 1950’s Dame Kathleen Kenyon re-excavated Jericho and stated that its last defensive wall had collapsed due to an earthquake, then the whole city was set on fire, ash being found everywhere. She said this was probably the work of Ahmoses I Egyptians who had pursued the Hyksos back to Canaan, circa 1540 BC. No later defensive wall exists at Jericho. That is to say in an Exodus of circa 1446 BC, there were no walls to collapse and be burned, all this happened a hundred years earlier. The Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, in his History of the Jews, circa 80 AD, claimed that the Hyksos Expulsion was the Egyptian version of Israel’s Exodus under Moses. The problem? Excavations in Moab (today’s modern state of Jordan) revealed that many of the sites listed in the Bible as being conquered and settled by Israel, under Moses, were no earlier than the 12th century BC, called Iron Age I in modern terminology. My conclusions, based on the archaeological findings? Two events, rooted in real happenings, several hundred years apart from each other, were fused together and presented in the Bible as one event. That is to say the Hyksos Expulsion of circa 1540 BC was fused with the Iron Age I settlements found in Moab, circa 1200-1100 BC. WHY? The Bible has the answer. After Israel conquers Moab and Canaan, Israel intermarries with those conquered peoples and comes to worship their gods. The Iron Age I intermarriages, produced by Iron Age II times, a new Israel, who can claim descent from the Hyksos, via the intermarriages of Iron Age I. The Primary History (Genesis-2 Kings) being written circa 562-560 BC in the Exile, at Babylon. My website, www.bibleorigins.net goes into all the details, the archaeological discoveries in Egypt, the Sinai, the Negev, Edom, Moab and Canaan.
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