A controversial paper presented at the prestigious science conference, the 102nd Indian Science Congress in Mumbai, claims human aviation and advanced space flight was achieved and mastered by the ancient Indians, thousands of years before the Wright brothers in 1903.
The paper, presented by Captain Anand Bodas and Ameya Jadhav within a session titled Ancient Sciences through Sanskrit, details that in Vedic texts from 7,000 years ago, airplanes are described as being able to fly backwards and side-to-side. They could also shuttle between countries, continents and even planets.
Captain Anand J Bodas draws upon the ancient Vedas for evidence of aviation technology
“There is official history and unofficial history,” said Captain Bodas, according to TheNational. “Official history only noted that the Wright Brothers flew the first plane in 1903,” but the inventor of the airplane was really a sage named Bharadwaja, who lived around 7,000 years ago. “The ancient planes had 40 small engines.”
Painting of Bharadwaja, said to be one of the greatest Hindu sages. Public Domain
The Vedas are a large collection of Sanskrit texts originating in ancient India and constitute the oldest layer of Sanskrit literature and the oldest scriptures of Hinduism. Some of the collection, such as the Samhitas, are known to date back to at least 1,700 B.C., although it is believed that many go back much further.
An illustration of the Shakuna Vimana that is supposed to fly like a bird with hinged wings and tail. Public Domain
The subject of ‘flying machines’ has been a popular subject among ancient astronaut theorists, who argue that some extracts are evidence of extra-terrestrial visitations:
“The Pushpaka (flowery vimana) chariot that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravana; that aerial and excellent chariot going everywhere at will… that chariot resembling a bright cloud in the sky... and the King (Rama) got in, and the excellent chariot at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere.” (Ramayana)
However, Captain Bodas said that ancient Indians invented the technology and that it was later forgotten because of the passage of time, foreign rulers and things being stolen from the country.
The Times of India reports that the paper, presented at the conference which included six Nobel laureates and award winning academics and scientists in its roster, has been met with skepticism, claims of “pseudo-science,” and the argument that the theory undermines empirical evidence by citing ancient religious texts.
The Indian Science Congress Association (ISCA) is a premier scientific organization of India, with more than 30,000 scientist members. The ISCA’s mandate is to publish journals, hold conferences and advance and promote the cause of science.
Valedictory Session of the 100th Indian Science Congress in Kolkata (Wikimedia Commons)
NASA scientist Dr. Ram Prasad Gandhiraman started an online petition before the conference was held to oppose certain lectures which were thought to advance a mix of science, mythology and the politics of Hindu nationalists.
However others, such as an Indian scientist from the U.S. who attended the conference, seemed to find the examination of ancient testimony compelling, saying, “Knowledge always grows, its flow never stops. So if all this knowledge was available in the ancient days, I need to know where it stopped. Why did it fail to grow? Why was there no advancement? When did it stop? I am not aware of the chronology of events, but I am definitely willing to learn more and find out.”
Featured Image: A manuscript illustration of the Sky Battle of Kurukshetra, fought between the Kauravas and the Pandavas, recorded in the Mahabharata Epic (Wikimedia Commons)
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In reply to Typical exaggeration with utter nonsense by Ptolemy336VV
Idiot. The oldest civilization is Indian civilization. Vimanas are fact ancient Indians flew Aircrafts. Discovery in 1992 has proved Indian civilization is the oldest and the most advanced thatbis 54000 years old. Krishna was born 32000 years ago. U will not accept it because Indians have a brown skin.u whites have always envied India and are always jealous of India's accomplishments.
Typical exaggeration with utter nonsense
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@SATISH CHANDRA
Such utter nonsense. There is 0,00000000 % proof in this entire article, Indian archaeological sites, and no real evidence of machinery found. To make matters worse, stories are made from religious texts!
Again these are exaggerated stories from people with (primarily) Indian background, only investigating their own history and not those from other regions in the world.
That's why such ridiculous claims are made. I'll tell you why:
2). To start: Turkey(Anatolia), Greece, Greek Island of Cyprus, Levant region, has a much older life span of civilization.
In Turkey alone (which was less than 600 years ago, Greek, just like Pakistan now with India) every year many 4000-10000 BC cities and sites are found.
Turkey holds the oldest temple in the world (10.000 BC) and Catalhoyuk (7000 BC) the largest and best preserved neolithic city in the world.
Next to this Greece and Turkey hold the most archaeological sites in the world.
-News from today for instance: A new palace from 4500 BC: http://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.nl/2014/09/chalcolithic-palace-u…)
I will show you a few examples why Greece holds one of the most incredible and oldest history in the world, with many firsts:
1). THE OLDEST WRITING IN THE WORLD. GREEK ALPHABET WAS IN USE IN 6000 BC PREDATING INDIAN, EGYPT, MESOPOTAMIA WRITING, BY 3000-3500 YEARS.
The oldest writing found on the planet is the DISPILIO TABLET in Greece. Which dates to 5300 BC. Found in the lake of Kastoria in Greece (found in1993), called
the Dispilio tablet with the first linear writing from 5300BC pre-dating Egyptian, Indian and Sumerian writings by 2300 to 3000 years.
http://archaeologynewsnetwork.blogspot.nl/2012/07/prehistorc-tablet-cal…
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/dispilio-tablet-ol…
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012/07/16/7270-year-old-tablet-found-i…
These Linear writings are SIMILAR to the writings of today. In other words the GREEK ALPHABET was in use 6000BC, as ALL European languages are Linear(alphabetical) writings
(Among Dispilio and other around this date) Another amazing finds are the YURA potteries in Central Greece. These contain again even older than the Dispilio writings from 5500-6000BC. MORE IMPORTANTLY. The postsherds contains letters of the Greek alphabet, that is in use today. Making it the oldest in use language in the world
http://www.hellinon.net/NeesSelides/greek_alphabet_was_in_use_at_600.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youra_Potsherds
http://newsarc.net/showthread.php/soc.history.ancient/Greek%20Alphabet%…
These predating for example earliest Indian writing by over 3000-4000 years.
These Yura Potteries together with the Displilio tablet are the oldest writings on earth.
These Archaeological finds will change the history of the world
This extremely old writings fit the following finding that archaeologists have done for the last 4 years. For they found an incredibly advanced 8000 year old civilisation that had buildings and multi storey houses. Which can be seen as the forefather of the incredibly advanced Minoan civilization from 3650 BC - 1300 BC.
2).NEW REMARKABLY 8000 YEAR OLD ADVANCED CIVILIZATION FOUND IN 2013-2014, GREECE (6000BC)
"The discovery reflects an incredibly advanced civilization existing in northern Greece 8,000 years ago." (Already 54 settlements have been discovered)
http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/accidental-disc…
3). RICHEST LANGUAGE IN THE WORLD WITH 5 MILLION WORDS GREEK LANGUAGE
Another fun fact: even the world map, ALL the words are Greek.
Even the names of the countries India, Asia, Europa, Phillipines or Atlantic ocean and thousands of words are Greek.
Example: Even the islands of Polynesia and Micronesia
(Poly=is many - nesia = Islands). So polynesia = many islands
Micro=small - nesia = Islands. So micronesia = small islands
Ego(Egoist) = ME or I in greek. Or Philosophy, or Pediatrician(Pedia=kids)
or gynecologist (gyneca=wife/female).And tens of thousands of other words are all Greek.
Richest language in the world stated even by Guinness book of Records
http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2010/09/with-five-million-words-greek-i…
http://www.explorers-journal.com/we-all-speak-greek/
And the 60+ settlements, cities,villages of 8000 years ago fits with the 7300 year old Dispilio tablet writing and the 8000 year old Yura potteries writings.
And these fit within the next things:
4). PAVLOPETRI, THE OLDEST SUNKEN CITY IN THE WORLD, WITH INCREDIBLE URBAN CITY PLANNING THAT MATCHES AND EXCEEDS THAT OF SOME CITIES TODAY. THE CITY IS AT LEAST 5000 YEARS OLD.
THERE ARE FEW OLDER SUNKEN SITES IN THE WORLD BUT NONE CAN BE CONSIDERED TO BE PLANNED CITIES SUCH AS THIS, WHICH IS WHY IT IS UNIQUE.
Greece has a coastline of 16.000 km.
60% of all cities in Greece today, have been found close to the sea.
Greece's geography is very diverse with 6000 islands and diverse mainland. There have already been found many cities in the sea such as Pavlopetri (5000+ year old) which is the oldest submerged archeological town site in the world, complete with incredibly advanced urban planning compared to and even better than some cities today:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlopetri
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-15191614
5). OLDEST GOLDSMITHING IN THE WORLD
Or the oldest gold smithing in the world over 4600-4200BC in South Bulgaria/Greece. http://www.pacmusee.qc.ca/en/exhibitions/varna-worlds-first-gold-ancien…
http://ancientstandard.com/2007/08/02/gold-of-the-dead-ca-4600-%E2%80%9…
6).INCREDIBLY ADVANCED MINOAN CIVILIZATION (3750-1400BC) PALACES AND CITIES WITH SEWERAGES, URBAN PLANNING, PLUMBING SYSTEMS AND TOILETS IN EVERY HOUSE
Prior to Mycenean and Classical Greece, there where the Aegean civilization and in Crete there was the famed Minoan civilization who was incredibly advanced for it’s time(3750-1400BC). They had many cities and palaces with sewerage systems, plumbing systems, urban planning, with toilets for every common house, even on the 3rd floor. With palaces of 5 to 7 floors high.with complex architecture to withstand earthquakes. They had complex society, beautiful art and writings.This is where the stories of Atlantis come from.
http://www.minoanatlantis.com/pix/Minoan_Knossos_Palace_Reconstruction_…
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Akrotiri_ship-proces… paintings
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Knossos_-_North_Port… palace
http://ant3145crete.wikispaces.com/file/view/Knossos_1.jpg/68392549/Kno… palace
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Disque_de_Phaistos_A…
http://kbagdanov.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/min-1.jpg palaces
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~prehistory/aegean/wp-content/flagallery/lesso… 3 storey houses
http://fashionhistory.zeesonlinespace.net/images/minoan1.gif paintings
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/originals/63/8b/40/638b40712476ee7928…
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/515169644846367611/
http://classconnection.s3.amazonaws.com/305/flashcards/873305/png/crete…
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/img_fullsize/65187.jpg
7). PETRALONA MAN 800.000 BC -700.000 BC (Oldest human found in Europe), Greece
http://www.ancient-origins.net/human-origins-science/human-skull-challe…
8). OLDEST USE OF FIRE IN THE WORLD 700.000 BC, Greece
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petralona_cave
9). OLDEST SEA NAVIGATION IN THE WORLD, GREECE 130.000 BC,
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-technology/ancient-navigation-13…
10). OLDEST SWASTIKA'S IN THE WORLD IN THE BALKANS
But this is not my point. My point is that you or some other Indians believe that the whole world is credited to the Indians. But that is completely the biggest nonsense in the world. Even India's most holy symbol the Swastika, where Indians so called believe they created it, is not even theirs:
The oldest swastika found in the world is in Ukraine 10.000BC.
http://www.slavorum.com/forum/index.php?topic=1856.0
-Then Vinca culture in Balkans(Greece, Bulgaria etc) used the swastika continuously from 6500BC for over 2000 years long. The oldest ever found swastika in India is from 2500BC. The swastika is even used in the Vinca script of 7000-6000BC, which predates Indus valley script (2600-1900BC) by 4000-5000 years.
http://aleximreh.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/swastika-in-the-vinca-script-…
11). THEOPETRA, KALAMBAKA, Greece 130.000 BC
With Oldest man made wall (25.000 BC) on the planet
http://visitmeteora.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/theopetra-cave-inhabited-b…
12). FRANCHTHI 25.000 BC, Greece
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/6d/a6/0e/6da60eb609f0eab8d070086…
13). KLIMONAS 9100 BC, Greek island of Cyprus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klimonas
14). SHILLOUROKAMBOS 8500 BC, Greek island of Cyprus
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/64/99/5f/64995fe79103a63592b9c24…
15). KHIROKITIA 7000BC,Greek island of Cyprus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khirokitia
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/8c/84/30/8c84303d1d2e038e29…
16). SESKLO 6850 BC (among 60 settlements from 7th–8th millennium BC), Greece
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2a/bb/a3/2abba385155e17d726…
17). DIKILI TASH 6500BC, WITH 6200 YEAR OLD WINE MAKING, North Greece
Winemaking of 6200 year old
http://archaeology.about.com/od/dterms/qt/Dikili-Tash.htm
18). PYRAMID, ARGOS, GREECE 2720BC
http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/pyramid-argos-gree…
19). MAKRIYIALOS, 5500 BC, Greece
http://www.ime.gr/chronos/01/images/gallery/nl/makryg/makrig2.gif
20). DISPILIO 5300BC - 4500BC Kastoria, Greece
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/4c/c7/6e/4cc76eb933c14ef014…
21). DIMINI 4800 BC, With earliest fortifications 3400 BC, Greece
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimini
http://www.figurines.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/dimini_anaktoro1.jpg
22). NEA NIKOMEDEIA, 6700 BC, Greece
http://www.elinos.gr/images/area1.jpg
23). MAROULAS, KYTHNOS, 9500 BC, Greece
http://www.kythnos.gr/en/content/history/100-centuries/
http://www.kythnos.gr/images/history/Xerolithies3.JPG
https://www.gtp.gr/MGfiles/location/image14717[7343].jpg
24). Sitagroi, 5500 BC, Greece
http://www.ime.gr/chronos/02/mainland/images/eh/habitation/max/sitagr.g…
http://www.sitagroi-dramas.gr/data/storage/attachments/f40f757947675221…
25). ARGISSA 6600 BC, Greece
http://sup.kathimerini.gr/kath/engs/img/LIFE/2011/01/greecesrich.jpg
26). MAVROPIGI, 7660 BC, Greece
http://antiquity.ac.uk/projgall/mentessidi336/images/figure3big.jpg
http://e-ptolemeos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ANASKAFI-MAVROPIGI.jpg
27). Phaestos, Crete, 4000 BC, Greece
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~prehistory/aegean/wp-content/flagallery/lesso…
http://www.greek-islands.us/heraklio/knossos/Phaistos-Palace.jpg
http://www.greeceathensaegeaninfo.com/a-greece-travel/a-maps/crete-phai…
28). -KALAMAKIA, Greece 80.000 BC,
- LAKONIS, Greece 100.000 BC, http://www.amna.gr/english/articleview.php?id=2773
- APIDIMA,Greece 300.000 BC,
- Alonnisos Greece, 120.000 BC,
- Ochre mines, Thasos, Greece 20.300 BC
- Piges tou Angiti, Greece 30.000 BC
- Kleidi, Epirus, Greece 16.000 BC
- Boila, Epirus, Greece 14.000 BC
29). SKARKOS 3000 BC, Ios, Greece
http://www.thebestinheritage.com/Files/images/presentations/2009/P_04_s…
http://www.thebestinheritage.com/files/Images/presentations/2009/P_04_s…
http://www.thebestinheritage.com/presentations/2009/xxi-ephorate-of-pre…
30). Agios Andreas, Sifnos, Greece
http://mysifnos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/%CE%91%CE%BA%CF%81%CF%8C%…
http://eparxiakofos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/11.jpg
http://eparxiakofos.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/10.jpg
31). Kalavasos Tenta 7000 BC
http://www.cyprushighlights.com/en/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/0212.jpg
http://ips-static.videopublishing.com/kyproscom/Cyprus_Larnaka_Tenta_Ka…
http://agrino.org/nicosia/072.jpg
http://www.oocities.org/marcandkaren2004/cyprus/cyTenta7H350W577_28k.JPG
31). Akrotiri-Aetokremnos 10.500 BC
Promachonas, 5300 BC
Aravissos, 4500 BC
Rachmani 4500 BC
Ayia Varvara Asprokremnos 9000 BC
Soufli Magoul 6500 BC
Ayia Sophia, Larisa, 4500 BC
Ayios Georgios, 6500-5800BC
Magoula Asimochoma 5300 BC
Platia Magoula Zarkou 5300 BC
Prodromos, Karditsa 6500 BC
Tzani Magoula 5800 BC
Ais Yiorkis 7800 BC
Magoula Visviki 5300 BC
Magoula Karamourlar 6500 BC
Kataliondas- Kourvellos 8000 BC
Magoula Sarantaporo 5800 BC
Lianokladi, Phthiotis 5800 BC
Aria, Argolid 4500 BC
Ayia Marina, Phocis 5300 BC
Lerna 5800 BC
Sphakovouni, Arcadia 4500 BC
Ayios Dimitrios, Triphylia 4500 BC
Myrina, Lemnos 5300 BC
Saliagos 5300 BC
Yiali, Nisyros 4500 BC
Sotira 5000 BC
Ierapetra 5800 BC
- And many many more, Mitrou, Knossos, Achilleion, paradimi, Youra, Saliagos, Melos, Asea, Nemea, Corinth, Boeotia, Kitsos, Kephala, Eutretis, Elateia, Halai, Choirospillia, Otzaki, , Zarkou, Tsangly, Diros, Priniatikos Pyrgos, Kastros, Loutro, Kephala, Malia, ,Phylakopi Akrotiri, Sifnos, Agia Irini, Panormos, Kissonerga, Kavos Daskaleiou, Minoa, Keros, Strofilas, Psiloritis, ETC, Ranging from 11th millennium 3rd millennium BC
32). Linear B WRITING, OLDER THAN PREVIOUSLY BELIEVED, 1500 BC, GREECE
Also Linear B which derives from Linear A, is also older than presently thought. As there have been findings in 2011 that concludes that Linear B now is at least from 1500 BC
http://www.aegeanscripts.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=arti…
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2011/03/110330-oldest-writing-e…
Cretan Hyroglyphic, 2100-1700 BC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretan_hieroglyphs
Linear A, 1900-1450 BC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_A
INDIA HAS SOME OLD ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITES TOO
And yes, India is also old. So far these are among the oldest things they have found from neolithic times India:
-The oldest farm village in India found, Merhrgarh, 7000-5500 BC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehrgarh
-Neolithic Edakkal caves, 6000 BC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edakkal_Caves
-Bhimbetka rockshelters, 10.000 BC - 2.500 BC
http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/india/central_india/bhimbetka.php
Even though India's oldest archaeological sites are not nearly as old or abundance, as for instance Levant, Greece and Anatolia, it still shows clear signs of human civilization in the case of Mehrgarh. Next to this, most of the oldest (Neolithic) archaeological sites in India are caves and rockshelters. While from the same time period in Greece alone there are over a 1000+ neolithic sites from 10.000 BC - 4000 BC
-THE CASE OF DWARKA
And in case of the sunken city of Dwarka. As great as it may sound a sunken city of 12.000 years old, the real archaeologists on earth(Including in India) are not so sure. Nothing is really proven. even some of the oldest things that archaeologists found , where tree branches, from 8500 year old that where actually coming from the Arabian peninsula. Archaeologists believe that these branches can NOT indicate the date of this city, as these tree branches could have been washed against this archaeological site.
The city could be 1000 BC, but because a 8500 year old tree branch might have ended up floating there, does not make this city going from 1000 BC to 6500 BC.
I'm not saying it isn't old, but there is no evidence of supporting this city of being 12.000 years.
-Bronze Age (Indus)
I am well aware of the bronze age civilization from India, (Indus) which is similarly old as the bronze age civilization from for instance Greece (Minoan civilisation 3650 BC-1170 BC, Helladic civilisation 3300BC-1050BC and Cycladic civilisation 3300-1400BC). But we are now talking about civilizations even older than that. And that is were Turkey, Greece, Levant region, holds much older and much more Archaeological sites than India from neolithic and mesolithic times. Every week a new great 4000-10.0000+ archaeological site is being found in these regions.
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I have said Amartya Sen was given the Nobel Prize as a substitute for me ( see my blog “How India’s Economy Can Grow 30% Per Year Or More : HowIndiasEconomyCanGrowDOTblogspotDOTcom ) so he is now returning the favor by saying Indians learned mathematics from the Greeks, etc., though Indian civilization is much older and everything the Greeks knew they got from India.