Elongated Skull in Paracas

Initial DNA analysis of Paracas elongated skull released – with incredible results

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Paracas is a desert peninsula located within the Pisco Province in the Inca Region, on the south coast of Peru.  It is here were Peruvian archaeologist, Julio Tello, made an amazing discovery in 1928 – a massive and elaborate graveyard containing tombs filled with the remains of individuals with the largest elongated skulls found anywhere in the world. These have come to be known as the ‘ Paracas skulls ’. In total, Tello found more than 300 of these elongated skulls, which are believed to date back around 3,000 years. A DNA analysis has now been conducted on one of the skulls and expert Brien Foerster has released preliminary information regarding these enigmatic skulls.

It is well-known that most cases of skull elongation are the result of cranial deformation, head flattening, or head binding, in which the skull is intentionally deformed by applying force over a long period of time. It is usually achieved by binding the head between two pieces of wood, or binding in cloth. However, while cranial deformation changes the shape of the skull, it does not alter its volume, weight, or other features that are characteristic of a regular human skull.

The Paracas skulls, however, are different.  The cranial volume is up to 25 percent larger and 60 percent heavier than conventional human skulls, meaning they could not have been intentionally deformed through head binding/flattening. They also contain only one parietal plate, rather than two. The fact that the skulls’ features are not the result of cranial deformation means that the cause of the elongation is a mystery, and has been for decades. 

Artistic - Elongated Skull

An artist’s impression based on a Paracas skull. Photo credit: Marcia Moore / Ciamar Studio

Mr. Juan Navarro, owner and director of the local museum, called the Paracas History Museum, which houses a collection of 35 of the Paracas skulls, allowed the taking of samples from 5 of the skulls. The samples consisted of hair, including roots, a tooth, skull bone and skin, and this process was carefully documented via photos and video. Samples from three skulls were sent to the geneticist, although the geneticist was not given any information about what they came from until after the genetic testing, so as not to create any preconceived ideas.  

The results of a DNA analysis of one of the skulls are now back, and Brien Foerster, author of more than ten books and an authority on the ancient elongated headed people of South America, has just revealed the preliminary results of the analysis. He reports on the geneticist's findings:

It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans.

The implications are of course huge. “I am not sure it will even fit into the known evolutionary tree,” the geneticist wrote. He added that if the Paracas individuals were so biologically different, they would not have been able to interbreed with humans.

The result of this analysis is only phase one of many phases of analysis due to take place.  The next tests will involve having the initial test replicated, and conducted on other skulls, so that the results can be compared to see if there are any specific Paracas characteristics. We will update when more details emerge.

Watch the video interview with Brien Foerster revealing new details about the genetic analysis.

Featured Image: An elongated skull found in Paracas

By April Holloway

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nice article, I wonder if they were a part one of the various population bottlenecks like what probably happened in with the Toba Catastrophe(a volcanic supereruption 69-77,000 yrs ago that caused a 6yr long world wide winter)..

More things in heaven and earth? Here we have concrete proof of a new species of humanoids. Where did they come from? Maybe the crash landed here and this is all that remained... They may have been advanced enough to teach the locals some things?

Please do the reasearch people - including the author. Doubtful news have debunked this, as has the Politicoid http://politicoid.wordpress.com/2014/02/14/the-paracas-skulls-an-object-...

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Hello Charles, 

So far, the debunking pages I have seen have done little more than pose questions, make assumptions, or criticise the character of individuals involved. You are right that a lot more research is needed and that needs to be directed towards the right goal, which is science. Unfortunately, the debunkers have not employed any science whatsover, nor attempted to address this area, while those researching the subject are making best efforts to investigate the subject through accepted scientific methods, such as DNA analysis. If you read the article again, you will see that it is repeatedly emphasised that this is just phase one of many phases and that no conclusions can be drawn until the full analysis is completed. Once the analysis has been replicated and conducted on multiple samples, the geneticist will be publicly announcing the findings directly. 

To address just a couple of points on the debunking website, Dr Melba Ketchum was NOT the geneticist involved in this research, and the geneticist involved is only anonymous until the study is completed. You don't see other scientists going public with their names and results part-way through a study. 

The website also poses the question as to whether it is really true that they are larger than heavier. Answer: yes.  It then asks, is it really impossible for head-binding to produce this change? Answer: yes. If you take a piece of clay and remodel it into a different shape, can you create more clay in the process?

There are plenty of websites out there who have made ridiculous claims about this announcement and have jumped to absurd conclusions, saying this is proof of nephilim etc. We are not one of them. Our stance is that a lot more research is needed on this before any conclusions can be made, but it is clear that the debunkers demonstrate the same limitations as the believers. Both are at opposite extremes - one side too willing to accept, and the other too willing to reject.  What is needed is sensible research and scientific study and for people to be patient and to see what results that actually produces. Only then can we really know the implications of this research.

April

 

 

I was wondering where the results of the genetic study have been published, or are available to read?

We exist on this planet where there are multiple species of many creatures. It should not be so surprising that there is a possibility of having an additional bipedal humanoid species coexisting with our species. Chances are that given our nature, we extinguished them, i.e. survival of the fittest.

The Smithsonian must be a great place to visit, especially if you had keys to all the doors and cabinets. But then there are soooo many doors and cabinets and soooo little time, especially without a map, what are we to do?

Speaking of "different," have any of you seen the video of Michael Tellinger'"Footprint of God?" There is, in South Africa, a slab of rock protruding from the ground at a 90° angle that has a "very big" footprint, 4' or so long, of someone's left foot, if memory serves, which appears to be hundreds of millions of years old, as the stone is between 300 to 600 million years old, or so says M.T. I'm curious as to why some interprising individual hasn't shoveled their way down 15 or 20 feet to see if the person's right footprint has also been preserved.

sí, la antigüedad se considera de tan solo 3,000 años, es de suponer que fueron contemporáneos de los cro-magnon; no únicamente en Perú, también en México y Egipto entre otros, tal vez se trataría de una raza extraterrestre, que habitó nuestro planeta, dando pie a la existencia de OTRA HUMANIDAD,,,

People with these elongated skulls are mentioned in the book entitled : "Selestor's Men of Atlantis". A paragraph in chapter 1 states: "The men of old Atlantis held the form of men today, save that the skull did thicker bone growth show and slanting was each forehead. Shape designed to change as ages rolled along." This book can be read online at: http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/smoa/smoa03.htm This book was allegedly channeled to the author and published in 1937.

The presens of mt DNA is already telling us that we are looking at an eucaryote organism, one of the classes of organisms of earth. As other classes of organisms like arcaics and procaryotes dont have mitocondria, it would be very strange if mitocondria would be present in other forms of life stemming from other planets. The preliminary results tell us that it is not matching any known organism, meaning that the maternal heritage is from an unknown or extinkt species, nothing more.

The notion that some other primate could have evolved towards bipedalism, seems entirely possible. In the south Americas today there are extant species of primates ( genus Aotus) that also have 46 chromosomes like we have. If there have been a nowadays extinkt species of these primates with a much larger body size, it may also have had 46 chromosomes. Such a coincidence could have made it possible for hybrid offspring with humans to be both viable and reproductable, even though at a very low percentage in the first generation offspring. If they would then continue to reproduce, the viability and reproductability would improve for each generation. This will all become clear when a full sequensing have been run and get published.

It seem they were known around the world.

I have often wandered what kind of mental powers these people had, even psychic powers?
Are these the people that could destroy whole armies, cities and civilizations with psychic fire (rage) as described in the Bible, Indian and other ancient texts? Are these people what they called Gods???

Does the absence of hemispheres cause a person to be unable to distinguish between emotions and logic? There is no doubt that the God of the Bible was an enraged genocidal maniac.

There are also stories about war in heaven (between gods living in mountains/pyramids) and stories about war between heaven and earth in Sumeria and other places. I once saw a picture off a mass grave with these people but have been unable to find it again. They had obviously been slaughtered and left in a mass grave. Anyone know this picture?

I disagree with the assertion that genetics will automatically limit the size of your brain. I am of the opinion that it is the use of the brain which causes it to grow large or not. I believe that most of the skulls we see are the result of head-binding but that this still has a celestial component.

According to my theory, when islanders arrived in the area of South America they were visited by some guardians of destiny, some people like The Elohim, who gave them information regarding the need to build pyramids and sacrifice their own kind in order to assure bountiful harvests. Now these Paracas people appear to be a different group that arrived here who are obviously of some kind of Nordic descent, considering the red hair. These people must have encountered a different kind of guardian who gave them different instructions.

The instructions they received, instead of to build pyramids, was to bind the heads of their newborns. The binding of the forehead meant that there could be no development of the frontal cortex, responsible for language. This meant that this race of people with the bound heads would evolve very differently and not use language or any other cognitive functions of the frontal cortex which we would traditionally associate as being the key hallmark of the human species.

Furthermore, the wrapping of the head would not only restrict the frontal cortex but also the back part of the brain. It is the back part of the brain that was so much larger in The Neanderthals that made their craniums larger than modern homo sapiens. I believe this back part of the brain allowed Neanderthals to communicate with one another silently, without the use of any language as we know it.

Lastly, with the bound heads of these Paracas people, this left only one direction for the brain to grow, and that is up. This creates the cone-shaped structure of these people's brains which is similar to how many people report that the Yeti appears, with a somewhat cone shaped skull. Now, some of the people with the bound heads with the brains growing upwards discovered that this new upward growth allowed them to use a whole new capacity of their brains. Specifically, it gave them the ability to communicate psychically with the guardians that instructed them to do this. Those who recognized this new ability and were able to use it achieved a new kind of inspiration or enlightenment of this sort which, by exercising this new mental capacity, caused their brains to grow bigger than ours. Some of those with the bound heads, however, were not able to tune into this ability, and so the binding of these people's skulls resulted in deformed skulls, yes, but no increase in brain size or capacity.

So there you have it, the answer of how cosmic guardians of destiny granted these people new mental powers by telling them, the secret of head-binding. Of course, with the bound head these people would have none of the kind of language abilities which characterize humanity at large and which we ourselves are so fond of, and so to take on this practice is truly to evolve a new kind of human which are more like those celestial guardians that visited these particular exploratory people.

The second I saw Armine's new artwork I thought immediately of the elongated skulls found in Peru. Armine Baghdasaryan is a Disabled Artist who is hard of hearing. Her world of communication may be very different than ours. The names of the paintings, the beautiful sentient being like paintings of the elongated skull people are amazing. Did they contact her in dreams, or in some other way? You have to see these paintings to see what I mean. I can't put a link on here to show you but you can see them in an album I have posted on my FB page at DisabledArtistsNetwork There are very interesting religious connations and symbols as well. Were these beings alive today, they might appear like this.

i hope dna from elongated skulls in the royal tombs of ur can be compared to the paracas skulls too.

Those heads belonged to a group of people that were complimented to much in their own time... thus giving rise to the old saying"Don't let it go to your head"! Aliens! ... really?

Why do all the depictions show pronounced brow ridges while the skull shows none?

When I was in Peru examining a few of these elongated skulls with Brien, I was impressed with the symmetry of these skulls to differentiate them from the cranial binding effects. Additionally, it is interesting to observe that several of the Egyptian statues show heads with headdresses that display an elongated skull which makes me wonder if the Paracas skull is limited to Peru. I have not spoken to Brien in awhile, but the other finds elsewhere may add a fascinating addition to the questions before us. As a physician, I am naturally very suspicious but I am also very intrigued and plan on further research in this area personally.

Lloyd Pye explains it all in detail in his "Everything You Know Is Wrong" presentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8&list=UUrTm4P9ST0Fo626B0O...

As a geneticist I can say this statement doesn't even make sense, and no one with a background in genetics would say something like this. Obviously I am also skeptical until I can actually see some data.

"It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans"

A far more independent test needs to be done. I would suggest sending the DNA to a typical everyday testing facility that test for parents' DNA with children's DNA for the results. In spite of the fact that any best kept secret can be leaked out, they have no pet theories to cater the results towards.

Giving the samples to a geneticist that refers to the evolution theory is highly circumspect. How many scientists have been found out to be fraudulant, hoping to make a name for themselves?This is why a far more independent test needs to be done; a facility somewhere that has no reason to benefit from the testing.

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Tall headressesamong the Pharoahs of Egypt and the Lamas of Tibet appear at first to indicate visually links with the Divine, also noted as being common among sadhus in India. There are other examples in many cultures.

This people whose skulls are contructed in a way different to our own, and who it appears lived with us or, at least, alongside us years ago, have always seemed to me to be the reason for the "crowns" of Egypt, for these massively elongated headresses, designed obviously to cover such a very different physiognomy that might instill fear in the ordinary population.

I have always made that connection, and also believe that after their disappearance that headbinding began as a hommage, yes, but also in the hope of attaining the powers these people are alleged to have had.

In Egypt I believe that it was these people who lived in the Pyramids, which were their homes, offering them much-needed protection from the heat , and their subjugated human populations.

But I do not believe that the Pharoahs were like them. Rather that after they had gone that the pharoahs took over the buildings these beings had left behind, initiating a cult linking them with their predecessors and gaining and holding authority through the pretence of being as they were, or at least descended from them, and that thesepeople are the ones who instructed human beings first, everywhere on Earth in the skills and knowledge necessary for civilization, but that they are not responsible at all for the subsequent religions, which possibly all came about as a form of compensation for their absence, caused no doubt, by our violence.

Its just ideas that I have had now for many years, but I have neither evidence nor proof

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Tall headresses among the Pharoahs of Egypt and the Lamas of Tibet appear at first to indicate visual links with the Divine, also noted as being common among sadhus in India. There are other examples in many cultures.

This people whose skulls are contructed in a way different to our own, and who it appears lived with us or, at least, alongside us years ago, have always seemed to me to be the reason for the "crowns" of Egypt, for these massively elongated headresses, designed obviously to cover such a very different physiognomy that might instill fear in the ordinary population.

I have always made that connection, and also believe that after their disappearance that headbinding began as a hommage, yes, but also in the hope of attaining the powers these people are alleged to have had.

In Egypt I believe that it was these people who lived in the Pyramids, which were their homes, offering them much-needed protection from the heat , and their subjugated human populations.

But I do not believe that the Pharoahs were like them. Rather that after they had gone that the pharoahs took over the buildings these beings had left behind, initiating a cult linking them with their predecessors and gaining and holding authority through the pretence of being as they were, or at least descended from them, and that thesepeople are the ones who instructed human beings first, everywhere on Earth in the skills and knowledge necessary for civilization, but that they are not responsible at all for the subsequent religions, which possibly all came about as a form of compensation for their absence, caused no doubt, by our violence.

Its just ideas that I have had now for many years, but I have neither evidence nor proof

Great article!

I follow Brien Foerster on youtube and i think he has done great job at researching lost ancient american cultures. I hope it will instigate other researchers to join forces with him, to unveil more secrets of ancient civilizations which have been hidden from us.

No citations except for a reference back to another Ancient Origins page? Scientifically speaking, your article is hogwash.

The results of mtDNA sequencing are very telling. Because it shows mutations completely unknown to any terrestrial hominid species, this indicates that these skulls had to be the result of genetic manipulation not of this Earth, i.e., extraterrestrial. So called "experts" are busily sticking their heads in the sand over these findings. And good luck getting them to discuss the idea of ET contact. So far the "experts" have simply ignored all the evidence and cling to the "cranial binding" hypothesis like grim death.

Why has there not been any updates?

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Brien Foerster is currently raising funds for further DNA and Carbon 14 testing: http://hiddenincatours.com/research-project/elongated-skulls/ 

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Oh, I just answered my own question...I’ll check out the link your have provided.  It does seem odd to me that the geneticist who did the initial work wouldn’t want to just continue the work for FREE given the report that he was ‘shocked’ by these unusual findings.  Thanks!

 

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Nuts, I just checked out your link and it’s a ‘tour site’...didn’t see any heading for fund raising for this project nor updates...do you have a better link?

 

Carol Ann1

Not judging but I thought this article was interesting https://badarchaeology.wordpress.com/tag/brien-foerster/ it paints a different picture.

As for Akhenaten I was under the impression that rather than being an "alien" whose family also happend to go on summer holiday in Paracas, he either had a genetic deformity, maybe Marfan syndrome, like Abraham Lincoln (maybe he was an alien) or that his androgynous representation was not a true resemblance rather one of religious symbolism in keeping with his worship of the Aten who was described as both male and female.

 

I wonder if these are the same species as the ancient Wodewose, the 'red hairy men' of the woods that used to dance with witches in England, before presumably being made extinct, or the Almas, the red hairy men that the Chinese have seen outside their military bases from time to time.

"BELIEVED to date back around 3,000 years"? umm.. if we are doing genetic testing on these skulls, why aren't we carbon-dating them to actually find out how old they are instead of guessing?? seems weird that they haven't even been properly dated yet.

Mr. Foerster has been seeking funds via his fairly fancy and well publicized fund raising campaign even prior to this year old article. I can’t believe that were there such incredible differences as claimed for them, that he wouldn’t have raised the money for carbon 14 and dna sequencing 100 times over by now.  Even were they not as unusual as claimed he could have done it a couple times over.

Dude seems a money grubber, without any credibility what so ever to me.

We have work by Louis Leakey et al in Calico changing paradigns, and others going out on limbs to publish their finds.  Unfocused capital venture clowns like this just leave a bad taste. And become icons or strawmen for “skeptics” who resort to character assasination rather than addressing facts.

There is a link to a badarcheology review elsewhere in these comments I was impressed with….though not having handled nor tested the skulls himself are also unsubstantiated opinions of the author...but seemingly as reasonable as Foerster’s unsubstantiated opinions... if not more so.

That’s not to say the unusual characteristics of the skull aren’t real.  Maybe it’s just the wrong person championing the find.  Every other skull worthy of an article seems to have had someone pop for the couple thousand dollars for a proper carbon dating at least.

     

I don’t know why you have such a bone to pick with Foerster.  He’s the only person I know of attempting to made headway with this enigma.

“I can’t believe that were there such incredible differences as claimed for them, that he wouldn’t have raised the money for carbon 14 and dna sequencing 100 times over by now.”

So you’re saying that because money isn’t being thrown at him, or anyone else publicly, for a proper investigation into these skulls, they must therefore not be interesting enough to merit further study?  Because I’d say that’s regoddamndiculous.

For whatever scholarly qualifications you might think Foerster lacks, he makes up for in pointing out the obvious in a world where the obvious seems obvious to few.

Aside from studying the size and shape of the elongated skulls, I am more curious about the brains that were inside of these skillls. Is there research about these brains?

My comment is an article from Matin J Clemens:

The Brien Foerster – Paracas Skull Fiasco UPDATED

by Martin J. Clemens · February 6, 2014

[Don’t miss the updates at the bottom]

Ica, Peru is an exciting place, if you happen to be interested in ancient cultures and archaeology. Many old world curiosities have come out of this region of the world, like the Ica Stones for instance, and in fact, one of the most impressive collections of ancient textiles came from Ica. That may seem quite the opposite of exciting to you, but to those of us who study such things, the findings of Peruvian archaeologist Julio C. Tello in the Paracas peninsula of the Pisco province of Ica, have been ground-breaking in terms of understanding at least one lost culture of Peru.

In 1925, Julio Tello, the father of indigenous Peruvian archaeology, felt he was close to exposing the lost Paracas culture, and after a few years in field, he finally cracked the case for the Paracas when in 1927 he uncovered a necropolis in the desert that contained 429 ancient mummy bundles. This find proved the case for the Paracas culture, and it opened up vast avenues for research, including a study of the various patterned textiles used in the burial bundles.

The Paracas people, for whom the entire Paracas peninsula is named, inhabited the coastal region from 800 BC to 100 AD, which makes them one of the oldest known Andean cultures. They had an aptitude for irrigation and water management, and their culture was rich in art and spiritual practices.

This is all well and good, it’s interesting but hardly headline worthy, at least not 87 years after the discovery, but there’s more to this situation than meets the eye.

The Paracas culture were one of the ancient Andean peoples who practised skeletal modification. They would bind the heads of their infants with rope, cloth and wooden boards in order to elongate their skulls. This was done for spiritual or religious reasons, and scholars believe it was an effort to make themselves look more like their deities.

The resulting skull shape does indeed seem otherworldly, and they’ve captured the attention of a great many Fortean researchers and Ancient Alien theorists. World famous Ancient Aliens proponent and author David Childress has long theorised that these elongated skulls are the product of contact between extraterrestrial beings at or before the height of the Paracas culture. He has alternately asserted that the Paracas skulls are either the result of attempts by humans to emulate these alien visitors, who may have been perceived as gods, or that they are the actual aliens.

Owner/curator of the local Paracas History Museum, Juan Navarro, has a collection of some 35 preserved examples of Paracas elongated skulls, as well as many other historical artefacts related to the Paracas culture. The skulls are said to have a cranial capacity of 24-40% larger than a regular human skull, which some claim is evidence that their brains were bigger and they were thus more intelligent than modern humans or humans of the same era. This is not necessarily true, but we’ll get to that.

In 2011, alternative history author Brien Foerster, and self-proclaimed expert on ancient elongated skulls, apparently convinced Navarro to allow several samples to be taken from the museum for analysis. Hair samples, including roots, a tooth, skull bone and skin samples were taken from five different skulls and were given to the late Lloyd Pye, of the Starchild Project fame, who then allegedly passed them on to an unnamed geneticist in Texas for DNA analysis (we can only hope it wasn’t DNA Diagnostics). [See update below]

Well, it seems Foerster would like us all to believe he has preliminary results of that analysis in hand, and through an appearance on JustEnergyRadio, he has released some rather spurious details that on first glance seem quite intriguing, but upon closer inspection, aren’t really all that impressive.

Several bloggers who specialize in the paranormal, have published posts telling of these preliminary conclusions, claiming that the DNA offered unexpected results. Headlines such as ‘Initial DNA analysis of Paracas elongated skulls released – with incredible result’ are giving people the wrong impression of the situation.

Foerster is claiming that mitochondrial DNA was found in at least one sample and that analysis of that DNA showed mutations that don’t conform to mutations known in humans or other animals.

“It had mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) with mutations unknown in any human, primate, or animal known so far. But a few fragments I was able to sequence from this sample indicate that if these mutations will hold we are dealing with a new human-like creature, very distant from Homo sapiens, Neanderthals and Denisovans.”

What does that mean?

Not much really. At best it’s inconclusive. The DNA would be identified as human, but with anomalies; anomalies that could be caused by any number of contaminants or procedural flaws. It could be that this DNA really does provide unusual results, but the only thing that can be said of it at this point is that it requires further study. The sensational release of unconfirmed and unverifiable information such as this on a radio show, is not worthy of the attention this story is receiving.

The problems don’t stop there, though.

Who is doing this analysis and where/when can we expect peer-reviewed publication of these results? Foerster isn’t telling, which sends up a huge red flag. In the quote above, Foerster refers to himself as doing the “sequencing”. Is this a slip of the tongue? He’s definitely not a geneticist. Secondary to this is the way in which he has “released” these findings, which is reminiscent of Melba Ketchum’s Bigfoot debacle of 2012. This is not the way science is done, though some might argue that he is not a scientist, and not much argument would be found in response.

Some people are buying into what seems to amount to Foerster’s latest effort to sell books, without really thinking about the situation critically. The Paracas elongated skulls are strange, but the features people like Foerster and Childress hold out as evidence that they have an other-worldly origin doesn’t really hold up to close scrutiny.

There are fossilized skulls of a race of proto-humans called the Boskop Man. They were found near a small town in South Africa of the same name, and these skulls sparked a heated debate among anthropologists and archaeologists when they were presented in 1913. They were given as evidence for a species of human that had a significantly larger brain and therefore greater intelligence than contemporary species. The Boskop skulls offered a cranial capacity of 40-50% larger than any other known humanoid species, but it’s been demonstrated that this doesn’t necessarily equate to greater intelligence. More isn’t always more.

The Paracas skulls, aside from looking strange, are anatomically identical to regular skulls, and since we know how and why their culture undertook skeletal modification, it seems credulous to inject conspiracy where none exists to begin with.

Where ever you see this story posted in the next couple weeks, be sure to ask how the poster verified the information Foerster is offering.

UPDATE:

As mentioned above, at the time of writing Brien Foerster hadn’t publicly identified the Texas geneticist that was processing these DNA samples, but Sharon Hill over at Doubtful News, along with some other sleuths, have determined that it is indeed Melba Ketchum of DNA Diagnostics who is performing the analysis. This information places this story squarely into the ‘seriously sketchy’ category, if it wasn’t there already.

UPDATE TO THE UPDATE:

This story is turning into a circus over at Doubtful News, as Foerster has threatened legal action against Sharon Hill (who used this post as the basis for hers), and has now directly denied the involvement of Melba Ketchum…sort of. He says he is working with her on this project, but that she didn’t work on the samples in question.

On top of everything, it’s been suggested that he may have violated international import/export laws, or at the very least Peruvian export laws, which require credentialed permits to remove any kind of archaeological material from the country. It appears Foerster had no such permit, though this is as yet unconfirmed.

Martin J. Clemens

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Writer, Canadian, Fortean Addict...and lover of science and history. "As for me...I know only, that I know nothing..." I also blog at www.dailygrail.com and mysteriousuniverse.org

I can't help but notice that the posts by the science bashers for the most part are poorly spelled, including such oddities as, "Your all talk" and "Tow the line." which makes a fairly clear statement about the level of education involved.

Also, they're using the term "closed minded" to simply mean, "You refuse to accept my far out theory as fact." A truly open-minded individual would simply say, "We don't yet have sufficient information. Therefore, I will not make a determination yet, and I remain open to a number of explanations until further information is available."

It takes a very closed mind indeed to say, "If you don't agree with me you're a closed-minded eejit."

These skulls are obviously the remnants of a fantastically intelligent alien species who had long, long heads. They came here and genetically altered a wildebeest and created Gnuman beings. We were not happy with our elongated head masters and rebelled. We cut off their heads and placed them in a museum. Then an asteroid hit earth and it was all buried. History is beautiful and dangerous. We could all learn a valuable lesson from the long headed people.

These skulls are obviously the remnants of a fantastically intelligent alien species who had long, long heads. They came here and genetically altered a wildebeest and created Gnuman beings. We were not happy with our elongated head masters and rebelled. We cut off their heads and placed them in a museum. Then an asteroid hit earth and it was all buried. History is beautiful and dangerous. We could all learn a valuable lesson from the long headed people.

thought this was a posting of another obummer joke, 'till I read on, of course...

Guys, I am writing a research paper on pseudo-archaeology, and whether you believe this or not, hear me out.

First of all, Foerster's findings are not accredited to any scientific research. In other words, the DNA tester is unnamed to this day, and for anyone who cares, it probably never even happened.
Foerster and other fringe theorists are known to pull "facts" out of their asses, but they can never even say where they got these numbers from. They are lying to you all and their theories are simply a scheme! Also cranial vault modification is a well-known cultural practice from all around the world. Many cultures shape their infants' heads to create a more attractive look very much like Chinese foot binding. Question what people say and never take it as fact! This is the difference between science and this stuff. I'm all about questioning science as well, and it sure has its limits. I do believe aliens exist, since the universe is inconceivably big, but do not believe these guys who just theorize and fake evidence!

Again I find myself coming to Foerster's defence.

Your comments about cranial deformation fail to address the mysteries that have peaked the attention of Foerster and other free thinkers of his sort. Cranial deformation does not increase cranial capacity, and it certainly does not reduce the number of major skull plates. Mainstream science will not address this, and few scientists familiar with the matter are willing to point it out for fear of placing themselves on the dreaded fringe. Nonetheless, there is a discrepancy between the common explanation and the facts.

Regarding Brian Foerster, I can't say I've read any of his books. However I am more or less familiar with his theories. I will admit he's well versed in speculation, but I've rarely heard him present it as anything but. And when it comes to the fascinating topics he chooses to explore, his speculative explanations often make more sense than the conventional ones--which usually also amount to conjecture.

He's not what I'd call a scholar, but he's intelligent and productively curious--two qualities most scientists these days seem to be in short supply of.

So, what's the status of the skulls?

malisa wright

Ahhhh, I see Don Pepe's post. What about anything else?

malisa wright

Carol Ann1's picture

Interesting...I live on the Florida Panhandle near Pensacola, and have learned that most of the indigenous burial sites which have been investigated near my home have found at least one or two individuals of larger stature which also have the elongated skulls.   At the Naval Live Oaks Nature Preserve in Gulf Breeze there is a burial ground which had one of these elongated skulls, and oddly it was buried face down and had a human bone placed in it’s mouth.  From beads found at the site it’s latest occupation was thought to be early 1700’s.  I obtained this research from a dig done in the early l960’s from the curator at the Fort Walton Beach Indian Temple Mound, but no analysis was done on the skull and the site was since acquired by the government and is now strictly ‘off limits’ (they have security guards). There are also stories from the Fort Walton Beach Indian Temple Mound (not far from this site) that Civil War soldiers camped there and dug up what we would label as ‘giant’ skeletons, but they were reportedly destroyed during fighting at that time.  It does seem that emulation via cradleboarding had to have come from someplace for them to want to do something so odd, so perhaps legends of the Paracas people traveled all the way to North America over time.  Perhaps these Florida natives with the elongated skulls were like spiritual leaders or shamans..chosen by heredity so they had their heads bound as babies? I have read about other Native American Indian tribes which practiced the skull cradleboarding...like the Mandan tribe reported on by the Lewis and Clark Expedition...much farther north than Florida.  Since this video seems somewhat dated, I’m curious to know if funding was obtained to be able to get DNA results for the other two Paracas skulls yet?  

Carol Ann1

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Is somebody doing some DNA analysis on Malta`s elongated skulls?

There is some correlation in Between Paracas`s and Malta`s elongated skulls?

Thanks

 

 

Mario Juarez

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Wow, thank you for your post Mario!  I did not know about the Malta elongated skulls and just found a fantastic link that tells more about them.  It seems from reading it that there actually was an ancient race of people who had the trait which could be passed on genetically and it’s very strange that 7,000 of them just ‘disappeared’ after being discovered.  It would seem for some reason people have tried to hide their existence.  I wonder if it would even be possible to get DNA from them that could be analyzed because they are even older than others which have been found throughout the world….very interesting and I can see the connection between them and other cultures.  I recently learned that the Hittite people had two types of appearances.  Some of them were Indo-European but the other half had extremely elongated skulls.  I found information in the Egyptian Amarna letters that Akenaton’s father corresponded with the Hittites about receiving a princess for his harem from them and thought perhaps Nefertiti could have been that princess since she and her daughters had the same kind of elongated Hittite skulls.  Here is the link about the Malta skulls which has me so excited at the moment:  http://www.ancient-wisdom.com/maltahypogeum.htm   Since many people think the Malta people went in boats to the east...to places like Crete etc., perhaps some of their DNA mixed with others and eventually their descendants (from the Mediterranean region) went by boat to South America :-)

Carol Ann1

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Oh, I just figured out I can ‘Edit’ my comments :-)

 

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I wanted to share an article which is based upon genetic studies about the origins of red hair in human beings.  I learned that Neanderthals had red hair and that because it is considered a mutation and recessive trait, both parents must have red hair for it to be passed on.  In any event it ‘seems’ to prove that the Paracas people were not originally from South America.  It says all these people share a common ancestry that can be traced back to a single Y-chromosomal haplogroup: R1b, and this link discusses the genetic evolution and cultural spread of the R1b red headed mutation in detail:   http://www.eupedia.com/genetics/origins_of_red_hair.shtml

Carol Ann1

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