Triceratops Horn Dated to 33,500 Years

Did Humans Walk the Earth with Dinosaurs? Triceratops Horn Dated to 33,500 Years

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A Triceratops brow horn discovered in Dawson County, Montana, has been controversially dated to around 33,500 years, challenging the view that dinosaurs died out around 65 million years ago.  The finding radically suggests that early humans may have once walked the earth with the fearsome reptiles thousands of years ago.

The Triceratops brow horn was excavated in May 2012 and stored at the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. The Museum, which has since 2005 been in cooperation with the Paleochronology Group, a team of consultants in geology, paleontology, chemistry, engineering, and education, sent a sample of the outer portion of the Triceratops brow horn to Head of the Paleochronology Group Hugh Miller, at his request, in order to carry out Carbon-14 dating. Mr Miller sent the sample to the University of Georgia, Center for Applied Isotope Studies, for this purpose. The sample was divided at the lab into two fractions with the “bulk” or collagen break down products yielding an age of 33,570 ± 120 years and the carbonate fraction of bone bioapatite yielding an age of 41,010 ± 220 years [UGAMS-11752 & 11752a]. Mr Miller told Ancient Origins that it is always desirable to carbon-14 date several fractions to minimize the possibility of errors which Miller requested and that essential concordance was achieved in the 1000's of years as with all bone fractions of ten other dinosaurs.

Triceratops, a name meaning “three-horned face”, is a genus of herbivorous ceratopsid dinosaur that is said to have first appeared during the late Maastrichtian stage of the late Cretaceous period, about 68 million years ago in what is now North America, and became extinct in the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 66 million years ago. However, scientists from the Paleochronology Group, who perform research relating to “anomalies of science”, maintain that dinosaurs did not die out millions of years ago and that there is substantial evidence that they were still alive as recently as 23,000 years ago.

Classical reconstruction of a Triceratops

Classical reconstruction of a Triceratops ( Wikimedia Commons )

Until recently, Carbon-14 dating was never used to test dinosaur bones, as the analysis is only reliable up to 55,000 years. Scientists never considered it worthwhile to run the test since it is generally believed that dinosaurs have been extinct for 65 million years, based on radiometric dating of the volcanic layers above or below fossils, a method which the Paleochronology Group states has “serious problems and gross assumptions must be made”.

"It became clear years ago that paleontologists were not just neglecting to test dinosaur bones for C-14 content but were refusing to. Normally a good scientist will be curious about the ages of important fossil bones,” Mr Miller told Ancient Origins in an email.  

YouTube video explaining results of carbon testing on dinosaur bones

The results of the Triceratops Horn analysis are not unique. According to Mr Miller, numerous C-14 tests have now been carried out on dinosaur bones, and surprisingly, they all returned results dating back in the thousands rather than millions of years.

“I organized the Paleochronology group in 2003 to fill a void with regards fossil wood and dinosaur bones as I was curious as to their age by  C-14 dating.  We thus have used C-14 dating to solve the mystery why soft tissue and dinosaur depictions exist world-wide. Our model predicted dinosaur bones would have significant C-14 and indeed they did in the range of 22,000 to 39,000 years BP,” Mr Miller added.

Results of C-14 tests on dinosaur bones

Results of C-14 tests on dinosaur bones provided by the Paleochronology Group .

Numerous independent researchers have long argued that there is evidence man and dinosaur once walked the Earth together, such as hundreds of ancient artworks and artifacts that appear to depict dinosaurs, long before modern science had pieced together dinosaur fossils and conducted analyses to produce detailed reconstructions of their appearance.

Top left: Relief carving at Angkor Wat, Cambodia (1186 AD). Top Right: Textile from Nazca, Peru (700 AD). Bottom: Tapestry in the Chateau de Blois (1500 AD)

Top left: Relief carving at Angkor Wat, Cambodia (1186 AD). Top Right: Textile from Nazca, Peru (700 AD). Bottom: Tapestry in the Chateau de Blois (1500 AD)

However, even more intriguing is the discovery of soft tissue in dinosaur fossils. In the March 2005 issue of Science , paleontologist Mary Schweitzer and her team announced the discovery of soft tissue inside a 68-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex leg bone from the Hell Creek Formation in Montana, a controversial finding considering scientists had thought soft tissue proteins degrade in less than 1 million years in the best of conditions. After recovery, the tissue was rehydrated by the science team and testing revealed evidence of intact structures such as blood vessels, bone matrix, and connective tissue. 

Comments

Peter Harrap's picture

This article makes for depressing reading. That people can be sacked for merely challenging somebody else's idea is as narrow-minded and as dangerous as religious fanaticism at its worst. Similar actions are typical of the Taliban, and it really is high time that everybody's ideas and beliefs were respected, in so-called research and educational establishments above all, because otherwise we shall all remain in the Dark Ages.

I went to school and to college, and I can even remember having to put up with some guy saying that God and evolution were perfectly compatible. Now I personally have realised as a fact that they are, but you might not be there yet.

Again at University we all had to suffer some freak of a professor instructing us that it was just fine to drill holes through the skulls and into the brains of rats because there is no proof, he said, that rats are capable of experiencing pain!.

I walked out in disgust at his absolute stupidity and further to this was then subjugated to an idiot professor stating that all of Freud was nonsense.

It got worse. I was instructed by my tutors that to get a degree I had to accept as fact that murder was occasionally morally justifiable, and that  schizophrenics should not be allowed to have children; and this was recently in the UK in the late C20th, not you will be surprised to hear in Nazi Germany in the 30s.

I left in disgust, and reading what happens now to ordinary researchers and their research I do begin to wonder whether going to college is not a complete waste of time, and I know from friends and ex-students too, that archeology is a pretty dead rigid subject in which unproven and outmoded theories like Evolution are being defended pretty much at the end of a Kalashnikov, when there is NO proof for any theory existing today at all.

They are just ideas, and that students can be failed for differeing from the Orthodoxy, or that Professors can be fired for advocating ideas AS valid as those of the Orthodoxy stinks: it is frightening, very, because it is an equal intolerance that is behind Al Quaeda, and the Taliban. It is exactly the same, and it seems to me there's little point pretending we are any better when we are so unspeakably similar

Roberto Peron's picture

It's all about maintaining conformity Peter.  The production of nice little human robots is the goal.  Education and questioning?  Not allowed!  The very first professor I had in archaeology told us that C14 dating was a "load of crap."  I'll never forget that comment.  As I went along through college other professors said it was "highly reliable."  So which is it and why all the confusion?  In my 3rd  year after making a few comments to professors I found myself in the Dean's office where I was told that I was a "loose cannon" and needed to not ask so many questions.  Up until that point I thought education was about asking question but found that my assumption was wrong!  So for the rest of my education I sat silent, doing the work, passing the exams, and moving along.  Oh yes, I realized I was in the Lion's Den and I knew it well.  And when I finished?  I started asking questions again and continue to do so today as I REFUSE to be one of their little nice conforming human robots!!

 

Somebody please tell me what Jesus would do

rbflooringinstall's picture

This coincides with too much other evidence of the dinosaurs and humans coexisting. I think it would be ignorant to not at least consider the possibility.

Peace and Love,

Ricky.

Isn't this a non starter? If two samples from the same specimen have dating results with an 8000 year disparity, that can only mean one thing: the data is unreliable and the sample can only be declared not possible to date. Next!

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