Triceratops Horn Dated to 33,500 Years

Did Humans Walk the Earth with Dinosaurs? Triceratops Horn Dated to 33,500 Years

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A Triceratops brow horn discovered in Dawson County, Montana, has been controversially dated to around 33,500 years, challenging the view that dinosaurs died out around 65 million years ago.  The finding radically suggests that early humans may have once walked the earth with the fearsome reptiles thousands of years ago.

The Triceratops brow horn was excavated in May 2012 and stored at the Glendive Dinosaur and Fossil Museum. The Museum, which has since 2005 been in cooperation with the Paleochronology Group, a team of consultants in geology, paleontology, chemistry, engineering, and education, sent a sample of the outer portion of the Triceratops brow horn to Head of the Paleochronology Group Hugh Miller, at his request, in order to carry out Carbon-14 dating. Mr Miller sent the sample to the University of Georgia, Center for Applied Isotope Studies, for this purpose. The sample was divided at the lab into two fractions with the “bulk” or collagen break down products yielding an age of 33,570 ± 120 years and the carbonate fraction of bone bioapatite yielding an age of 41,010 ± 220 years [UGAMS-11752 & 11752a]. Mr Miller told Ancient Origins that it is always desirable to carbon-14 date several fractions to minimize the possibility of errors which Miller requested and that essential concordance was achieved in the 1000's of years as with all bone fractions of ten other dinosaurs.

Triceratops, a name meaning “three-horned face”, is a genus of herbivorous ceratopsid dinosaur that is said to have first appeared during the late Maastrichtian stage of the late Cretaceous period, about 68 million years ago in what is now North America, and became extinct in the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event 66 million years ago. However, scientists from the Paleochronology Group, who perform research relating to “anomalies of science”, maintain that dinosaurs did not die out millions of years ago and that there is substantial evidence that they were still alive as recently as 23,000 years ago.

Classical reconstruction of a Triceratops

Classical reconstruction of a Triceratops ( Wikimedia Commons )

Until recently, Carbon-14 dating was never used to test dinosaur bones, as the analysis is only reliable up to 55,000 years. Scientists never considered it worthwhile to run the test since it is generally believed that dinosaurs have been extinct for 65 million years, based on radiometric dating of the volcanic layers above or below fossils, a method which the Paleochronology Group states has “serious problems and gross assumptions must be made”.

"It became clear years ago that paleontologists were not just neglecting to test dinosaur bones for C-14 content but were refusing to. Normally a good scientist will be curious about the ages of important fossil bones,” Mr Miller told Ancient Origins in an email.  

YouTube video explaining results of carbon testing on dinosaur bones

The results of the Triceratops Horn analysis are not unique. According to Mr Miller, numerous C-14 tests have now been carried out on dinosaur bones, and surprisingly, they all returned results dating back in the thousands rather than millions of years.

“I organized the Paleochronology group in 2003 to fill a void with regards fossil wood and dinosaur bones as I was curious as to their age by  C-14 dating.  We thus have used C-14 dating to solve the mystery why soft tissue and dinosaur depictions exist world-wide. Our model predicted dinosaur bones would have significant C-14 and indeed they did in the range of 22,000 to 39,000 years BP,” Mr Miller added.

Results of C-14 tests on dinosaur bones

Results of C-14 tests on dinosaur bones provided by the Paleochronology Group .

Numerous independent researchers have long argued that there is evidence man and dinosaur once walked the Earth together, such as hundreds of ancient artworks and artifacts that appear to depict dinosaurs, long before modern science had pieced together dinosaur fossils and conducted analyses to produce detailed reconstructions of their appearance.

Top left: Relief carving at Angkor Wat, Cambodia (1186 AD). Top Right: Textile from Nazca, Peru (700 AD). Bottom: Tapestry in the Chateau de Blois (1500 AD)

Top left: Relief carving at Angkor Wat, Cambodia (1186 AD). Top Right: Textile from Nazca, Peru (700 AD). Bottom: Tapestry in the Chateau de Blois (1500 AD)

However, even more intriguing is the discovery of soft tissue in dinosaur fossils. In the March 2005 issue of Science , paleontologist Mary Schweitzer and her team announced the discovery of soft tissue inside a 68-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex leg bone from the Hell Creek Formation in Montana, a controversial finding considering scientists had thought soft tissue proteins degrade in less than 1 million years in the best of conditions. After recovery, the tissue was rehydrated by the science team and testing revealed evidence of intact structures such as blood vessels, bone matrix, and connective tissue. 

Comments

The horn was original non-premineralized biomaterial.
That makes your whole statement moot.

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With respect, I wish to make a few points from the perspective of a professional geologist.  First and foremost, 14C dating (at best) has been proven to be reasonably accurate to date organics of very recent history – to approximately 50,000 years old or less.  14C has a half life of 5,730 years, but is constantly being produced in the atmosphere when cosmic rays interact with 14N.  When 14C is produced, it bonds almost immediately with O2, forming Carbon Dioxide and thus stabilizing the radiocarbon – negating any capability of being used reliably to date biological materials of significant antiquity.  Otherwise, 14C emits an electron and an electron antinutrino, and neutron in the 14C nucleus becomes a proton, changing the 14C back into 14N (NR).  14C only exists in recent (geologically) organic remains as a consequence of ingestion of vegetable materials.  Second, no mention was made in the article of the geological formation in which the fossil was found.  K/Ar dating on this formation would give a good baseline for the age of the sediments.  The same method used on the stratum directly above the fossil-bearing layer would provide a ‘book-end’ date – assuming original horizontality without overturned beds, the fossil must be older than the stratum which covers the formation member in which the fossil was found.  Lastly, the fossil itself.  As fossilized material, the original biologics no longer exist.  The horn itself has been replaced by silicates (likely) during the process of permineralization – no Carbon remains after replacement.  The shape and structure of the horn has been preserved, but not its original chemistry - while originally made of (assumed) Keratin or a Calcium Phosphate/Carbonate, that material did not survive the process of fossilization.  It was replaced by silicates during the fossilization process.  It seems to me, as a whole upon reading this article, that the author neglected to include corresponding data to support the stated conclusion, electing instead to focus on only one aspect of the evaluation.  I mean no disrespect in way, shape, or fashion.  A fundamental aspect of any scientific conclusion must include corresponding data which must be repeatable by multiple parties in review.  Perhaps this data was removed from the article during the editing process.  If it was not, I hope further analysis will be performed and included in the next installment of this review. 

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