Denisova Cave

Ancient Humans Bred with Completely Unknown Species


A new study presented to the Royal Society meeting on ancient DNA in London last week has revealed a dramatic finding – the genome of one of our ancient ancestors, the Denisovans, contains a segment of DNA that seems to have come from another species that is currently unknown to science. The discovery suggests that there was rampant interbreeding between ancient human species in Europe and Asia more than 30,000 years ago. But, far more significant was the finding that they also mated with a mystery species from Asia – one that is neither human nor Neanderthal. 

Scientists launched into a flurry of discussion and debate upon hearing the study results and immediately began speculating about what this unknown species could be.  Some have suggested that a group may have branched off to Asia from the Homo heidelbernensis, who resided in Africa about half a million years ago. They are believed to be the ancestors of Europe's Neanderthals. 

However others, such as Chris Stringer, a paleoanthropologist at the London Natural History Museum, admitted that they “don’t have the faintest idea” what the mystery species could be.

Traces of the unknown new genome were detected in two teeth and a finger bone of a Denisovan, which was discovered in a Siberian cave. There is not much data available about the appearance of Denisovans due to lack of their fossils' availability, but the geneticists and researchers succeeded in arranging their entire genome very precisely.

"What it begins to suggest is that we're looking at a 'Lord of the Rings'-type world - that there were many hominid populations," Mark Thomas, an evolutionary geneticist at University College London.

The question is now: who were these mystery people that the Denisovans were breeding with?

By April Holloway


It was the a certain species of the greys that mixes their dna with the neanderthals to creat the caucasians and a certain types of grey mixing dna again with the neanderthals to creat the asians. I know the names of each species but am forgetting at the moment. Point is, I know the truth.

you should "creat" a sensical statement before making bold claims that you have the answer.

try "sensible" instead of "sensical".

"Sensical" is in fact correct, since it's antonym "NONsensical" describes the content of the previous comment quite accurately. Whilst your comment in itself wasn't nonsensical, it simply wasn't very sensible, given the inaccuracy of it's usage.

Who cares about people's grammar? Are we trying to show our superiority by correcting other people's diction? Try to get the content of what is being stated. I find it amazing that on a website that is supposed to welcome "alternative" views on ancient history/human origins, that so many people are ridiculed or mocked for proposing an alien-visitation/intervention theory, or any advanced "prehistoric" civilization (aka Atlantis). There IS a mother-load of evidence to indicate that such theories are sound; for one, read Graham Hancock's "Fingerprints of the Gods" (in its entirety and with an open mind). Spare the snark/sarcasm, it doesn't make anyone appear more intelligent.

Grammar and syntax are important in that they are indications of credibility or the lack of it.  If one is sloppy or wildly inaccurate about his/her grammar, spelling, punctuation or syntax, the reader is left wondering whether he is just as sloppy or inaccurate about the facts he is offering in his comment.  By the way, Malta, the term is "mother lode", not "mother load".    

Toss a piano down a coal mine and you get A flat minor.

Grammar and syntax are important indications of credibility. If one is inaccurate with grammar, spelling, punctuation or syntax, are they just as sloppy or inaccurate about the facts offered in their comments. Here, here. I would make allowances for those with English as a second language. But sometimes inaccurate grammar is just too hard to figure out and too open to misinterpretation.

Do you want to get technical "Last Past"? You can't toss a piano "down" a coal mine, the angle is not that steep - so you're probably referring to a pit. If you do toss a piano down a pit, you end-up with shattered pieces - I doubt you will hear a musical note. Thanks for the folk-wisdom though!

Absolute rubbish. Been a carpenter since I was about ten. That my grammer is bad has no effect on my knowledge of carpentry. I never attended school past 14.

Diction is how well you say your words nothing to do with grammar...

It sounds more like you forget the truth.

sad how people who DO actually know things people shun them down as if even YOU yourself know the truth... we could all be wrong... even those who so DEARLY stick to evolution. Science not only proves itself wrong, but its main acceptance and main point is to prove itself wrong so its right in the first place... lmao life is much deeper then we may put it at times and shun others down at it being "normal"

Bob, do you even speak English? I'm sorry, but whatever it is you are trying to say is lost in the complete gibberish that is your post.

Science admits when it is wrong and is self correcting, faith has to be force to understand what they think has no basis in science

Science admits it is wrong only when forced to. Seems to me science has become a religion itself. Oh and science is an offshoot of religion. Child of, so to speak. Do all children treat their parents badly? In this age it seems so.

Well they were obviously genetically close enough to the other species to breed successfully. That is if I'm reading this correctly. Viable offspring?

Check out the Sumerian tablets of life, check out www.david check out spirit science - the hidden history of mankind on you tube. The alien theory is more than just a theory!

It's not even a hypothesis.

That could be a good possibility

Yes, I would agree. From what I understand, the Sumerians recorded how the "gods" created a new race through an intermingling of their essence/DNA with primitive humans during this period - inspiring the story of Adam ("first man") and Eve - the first "modern" humans.. Before this theory is just dismissed, remember that the Sumerians also had the story of a Great Flood (prior to Noah and his Ark) - and so what they record may be referring to real-world events rather than "myths".

No mystery here. "Gods" were actually heroes in those day. Besides people were breeding with any others that came along, that is human nature.

The great flood has been shown by geologists to have been a world event around 6600 BC when an ice bank in Canada gave way and the water raised the level of the oceans world wide. Of course it would be recorded in many different cultures or passed down orally for generations.

If we are going to refer to gods and heroes in Sumerian Literature, Gilgamesh is demigod. He is the offspring of a human and a god. He is mortal, but more than man. Enkidu is his partner, and is probably created to make a foil for Gilgamesh. He is a hero, and the companion of Gilgamesh. Now this suggests to me that there is a mixing of species.

We have only the word of the Out of Africa brigade to 'prove' that humans originated in Africa only. It just seems to me barely credible that ape like bipeds could develop only in such an inhospitable place. It makes more sense that prehominids and hominids developed in other places on the Earth, even if the original skulls of the Peking Man specimens have gone missing. Maybe the 'hobbit' Flora was just a founder line that went extinct because there weren't enough of them to populate the locality viably. As an Archaeologist, I have to say that there is far more that we don't know than that we know. Raising hypotheses is not a bad thing. It can sow seeds of ideas that professionals and students may run with and seek evidence in those areas.

I'm not keen on Alien origins as there are too many possibilities already which need examination. But I can be obective and be interested in seeing evidence. Erich von Daniken's evidence is a tiny bit too ambiguous to be conclusive, but neither is it disproved.

Chinese Palaeontologists have already come up with some fascinating evidence of fossil birds. Let's see what their Archaeologists come up with in the next few years to contribute to the Human Origins debate.

Very possibly the (melting of the ice cover) end of the last Ice Age brought on the Great Flood stories. Most civilizations (many being much older than the bible) have a story about a Great Flood.

Eve was alive well before Adam so she was not mating with homo sapiens

Icke is a fruit bat and he has no proof, just ideas like anybody else...just stupider

... you had me right up until you mentioned Icke.

1 human beings are not descendant of neanderthal.
2 Negro came before Caucasoid
3Alien DNA (i mean one species away not lightyears) can not mix, a dog cannot bare the young of a cat, nor a human the young of a Chimp, just not possible.

so to conclude.
neanderthal did not evolve into human beings, so no amount of genetic altering can change that, what you get is a genetically altered Neanderthal, not a human. and even if you could, the first human beings where african and finally to know a truth is to observe fact not proclamation.
but what ever, point is, you know.

No...Neanderthal did not evolve into Human beings, they were human beings already, they just weren't Cro-Magnons, and just recently, there was a show on PBS, about how modern day "Humans" (to use your terminology, so you can understand it) actually can have up to 4% of their DNA be Neanderthal, depending on what race you are, or, where your race originated (that means "came from"), I'm not saying that EVERY Neanderthal would be viable as a parent going either way (as in, a Mother, or Father), just as not all modern-day "Humans" successfully mate, but, somewhere along the line, it actually worked...mutation is such a wonderful's why the egg comes before the chicken...

Yes, you are correct that a dog can not breed with a cat in the conventional sense, but that does not discount this. We, right now, are adding our DNA to other animals we can not breed with. We, right now, are adding pig DNA to veggies. We are doing the exact same thing as the ancient astronauts did. We are playing "God" and manipulating DNA to see just how far we can go with it. Don't believe me?? Look up the mouse with a human ear growing out of it. There is your proof for the possibility.

Yes, you are correct that a dog can not breed with a cat in the conventional sense, but that does not discount this. We, right now, are adding our DNA to other animals we can not breed with. We, right now, are adding pig DNA to veggies. We are doing the exact same thing as the ancient astronauts did. We are playing "God" and manipulating DNA to see just how far we can go with it. Don't believe me?? Look up the mouse with a human ear growing out of it. There is your proof for the possibility.

that doesn't preclude the dog and cat from trying as is evident when the cat goes into heat. After much butt sniffing by the dog, the dog will try to and more often than not will have intercourse with the cat in heat. Both are meeting the needs of each other if both cat and dog are by themselves, meaning, single cat and single dog.

Race is a social construct with limited, if any biological basis. the article is about species of humans.

Just parroting anti-white marxist propaganda is not an argument. It takes an extremely stupid person to ignore the obvious and buy into this disgusting communistic world view. Race is real, and genetics prove it.

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Hello Ron, saying we are anti-white is quite absurd, especially considering we are white ourselves. And nobody said there is no race. What it appears, however, is that different races were formed by interbreeding between different types of ancient humans. There are multiple studies to indicate that now.  

Hmmmm....I'm skeptible.

I can't believe that. The modern humans from Africa mixed slightly with the Neanderthal to create the Europeans and Asians according to recent DNA tests.

Nicholas Hutter, you can't even type. What makes you think anyone would take your comments seriously? "I can't remember" is another thing you have against you... Sorry, Dude. You hold no credibility for me.

Read "Lost Book of Enki", where Zechariah Sitchen decifered the first writings by the Summarians. It said it was the Annanki along with our entire history. A GREAT read.

At 50 years of age I have heard some fantastic things along with unfounded gibberish based on one's opinion as apposed to presenting proof to enforce any statement one my make. I am quite open to listening to the absurd provided there is evidence, proof, a cited source or what-have-you. A flat statement that, one knows the truth; does not validate a position, dude.

I think there is a wild assumption going on here. Breeding between Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons very probably did happen but these were only variants on the versions that were around in the locality at the time. Racial differences are adaptations to local conditions and are of far more recent origin than Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man. or of any other species. Yes, I've read a lot of the books and the research papers, but no, I'm not wring a book or paper or thesis, so I don't need to mention them even if I can be bothered to remember them. When I was writing academic paper on the subject, I made the notes of references as I went along.

I'm sick of this notion of proven scientific fact. There is no such thing. Even Science can only give an opinion based on the statistical likelihood of a set of circumstances. The margins between significance and non-significance are very narrow, so nothing is really proved and can be disproved as soon as evidence is found that changes the statistics.

Actually, it wasn't the greys, it was the Procyons. The common 'confusion' is because a strain of the greys. The Rigellian 'group' came from the same genetic pool that the Procyons did, and they share a common ancestor. The Procyons remained human looking while do to genetic manipulation and extreme exposure to radiation during nuclear wars. The rigellians that later became the greys degraded into what we see now the most common 'short' grey. The other strain of greys that are common in the gene pool here on the planet though along with the Rigelian, as I believe you are thinking of the Zeta and Rigelian greys.

The Eloa, are the grey / rigelian / pleiadian hybrids that are most commonally referred to as the Tall Greys. And it's the Rigelian Blondes and the Procyons that are most commonally referred to as the Tall Whites. While the Pleiadians are most commonly referred to as the Nordics. Among the "ET" crowd.

I confess ignorance, Starwalker. Where does the information contained in your reply originate? Thank you.

Read the 12th planet by Sitchen

You mean Nephilim? Try Genesis 6 about 6,000 years ago or Numbers 13 after the flood.

You are correct. I suspect someone will want to get right to cloning this DNA.

The Bible is a hoax.

Definitely "Nephilim" - Genesis 6
The Bible contains all the information we need for anything.

That book was written when they thought the Earth was flat.

Actually check out Isaiah 40:22.

actually that book was written way before that time and COMPLETELY describes how the sun made our galaxy! you just wont find it with a narrow minded reading. i mean do all you guys trust a translation or what? while reading the bilbe, did you not ge interested in readin the original?

well, i did and learned hebrew and the principles of gematria for hat and i can assure you, theres stuff in the bible you will hardly understand if you keep your current belief. IN FACT the bible is a book of very deep advanced science, including things we think ppl couldnt have known that time any way. we hardly know these things for a few generations.

you have to be VERY interested and spend time on studying the bible...... after that, you may come back and argue again. but a statement like that shows you weither read the bible nor do you know a shit about when this book has been written. you claim knowledge even well respected rabbis of all directions wont ever claim cause no one could ever tell....

respect others path and see everything you read here is an impulse to you.... what you do with it in your reality is up to you.... you decide to write a comment like that or get your head around smth your not comfortable with ;)



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